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	<title>Comments on: Shipley to knife Banks?</title>
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		<title>By: Armchair Critic</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175997</link>
		<dc:creator>Armchair Critic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe that was graham, he only spelled one word wrong.  And he should have still been hosing down the yards or cleaning out the milking machine at 5.33</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe that was graham, he only spelled one word wrong.  And he should have still been hosing down the yards or cleaning out the milking machine at 5.33</p>
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		<title>By: r0b</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175985</link>
		<dc:creator>r0b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I for one will leave it be.  Shouldn&#039;t mess with Great Art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I for one will leave it be.  Shouldn&#8217;t mess with Great Art.</p>
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		<title>By: Smokie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175981</link>
		<dc:creator>Smokie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>felix - agreed. It&#039;s o for oarsome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>felix &#8211; agreed. It&#8217;s o for oarsome.</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175953</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please please please leave graham&#039;s comment here. It&#039;s just beautiful, in a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please please please leave graham&#8217;s comment here. It&#8217;s just beautiful, in a way.</p>
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		<title>By: graham</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175940</link>
		<dc:creator>graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GET FUCKED LOSERS you are baned from my life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GET FUCKED LOSERS you are baned from my life</p>
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		<title>By: graham</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175837</link>
		<dc:creator>graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again it comes down to the ends justifiy the means  iprent

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent: It is a standing policy in the &lt;a href=&quot;/about&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;about&lt;/a&gt;. Live with it or live without access. Has been there since the site started. Banned for 2 weeks. ]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again it comes down to the ends justifiy the means  iprent</p>
<p><strong>[lprent: It is a standing policy in the <a href="/about" rel="nofollow">about</a>. Live with it or live without access. Has been there since the site started. Banned for 2 weeks. ]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: graham</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175835</link>
		<dc:creator>graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;[lprent: patience exhausted - banned for a week]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[lprent: patience exhausted - banned for a week]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175833</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still waiting for an example or an apology, Jared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still waiting for an example or an apology, Jared.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175830</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have completely missed the point of what I was saying Lynn. If a member of Len Browns campaign is running a series of vitriolic posts against the opposition then they should outline at a minimum their position. Anonymous blog posting is a privileged right as I am sure you know, however, to retain any credibility Sam Cash should say who they are. The Standard were stinging in their criticism of anonymous donors, and particularly the Brethren for not disclosing who they were and their motivations. As you well know, blog posting , particularly on a high profile blog like the standard is akin to a delivered publication regardless of the readership. Are you not interested in transparency? or are you more interested in hiding your own? I am not railing to have all authors unmasked, only &quot;Sam Cash&quot;. Or do you do what Trevor Mallard does and when he disagrees with a Point of View and just break out the ban stick?

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent: So when Whale runs a vitriolic set of posts against the North Shore mayor it doesn&#039;t matter whom he is friends with? Or that DPF is frequently mistaken for being part of nationals communications team? The principle you are espousing cuts all ways.

Basically the only reason that Sams posts are good or bad is the opinions and facts he expresses. Deal with those.

The standard is that we let selected people post here. Who Sam Cash is, I have no idea for the reasons in the &lt;a href=&quot;/about&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;about&lt;/a&gt;. He has been posting here since the site began on a variety of topics. In the same way that I frequently post on climate change, rocky posts on animal rights, Irish posts on union stuff, Marty G posts on numbers, Demeter on green issues, etc. Sam currently seems to post on the Auckland mayoral campaign. We all have areas of interest. 

In the absence of any actual information all you are doing is trying to make rumor out of unsubstantiated speculation. Totally pointless.

Deal with the post and its opinions. I look at attacks on the posters as being from people incapable of doing that. They find it easier to construct conspiracy theories. pretty damn lazy in my opinion. ]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have completely missed the point of what I was saying Lynn. If a member of Len Browns campaign is running a series of vitriolic posts against the opposition then they should outline at a minimum their position. Anonymous blog posting is a privileged right as I am sure you know, however, to retain any credibility Sam Cash should say who they are. The Standard were stinging in their criticism of anonymous donors, and particularly the Brethren for not disclosing who they were and their motivations. As you well know, blog posting , particularly on a high profile blog like the standard is akin to a delivered publication regardless of the readership. Are you not interested in transparency? or are you more interested in hiding your own? I am not railing to have all authors unmasked, only &#8220;Sam Cash&#8221;. Or do you do what Trevor Mallard does and when he disagrees with a Point of View and just break out the ban stick?</p>
<p><strong>[lprent: So when Whale runs a vitriolic set of posts against the North Shore mayor it doesn't matter whom he is friends with? Or that DPF is frequently mistaken for being part of nationals communications team? The principle you are espousing cuts all ways.</p>
<p>Basically the only reason that Sams posts are good or bad is the opinions and facts he expresses. Deal with those.</p>
<p>The standard is that we let selected people post here. Who Sam Cash is, I have no idea for the reasons in the <a href="/about" rel="nofollow">about</a>. He has been posting here since the site began on a variety of topics. In the same way that I frequently post on climate change, rocky posts on animal rights, Irish posts on union stuff, Marty G posts on numbers, Demeter on green issues, etc. Sam currently seems to post on the Auckland mayoral campaign. We all have areas of interest. </p>
<p>In the absence of any actual information all you are doing is trying to make rumor out of unsubstantiated speculation. Totally pointless.</p>
<p>Deal with the post and its opinions. I look at attacks on the posters as being from people incapable of doing that. They find it easier to construct conspiracy theories. pretty damn lazy in my opinion. ]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175825</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You used to give a shit Felix, not so long ago either, or is it different when you are trying to protect your own, ala Phillip Field?&lt;/i&gt;

Please show an example or apologise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You used to give a shit Felix, not so long ago either, or is it different when you are trying to protect your own, ala Phillip Field?</i></p>
<p>Please show an example or apologise.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175822</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was always a banning offense since we started banning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was always a banning offense since we started banning.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175818</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can complain all you want about transparency of trusts, about disclosures of pecuniary interests, and special interest groups like the brethren. But when &lt;strong&gt;[deleted]&lt;/strong&gt; allegedly posts under a pseudonym on your site, offerring 11 &quot;opinion pieces&quot; his anonymity is protected? You used to give a shit Felix, not so long ago either, or is it different when you are trying to protect your own, ala Phillip Field?
&lt;strong&gt;
[lprent: Read the &lt;a href=&quot;/about&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;about&lt;/a&gt; about who we are and quit whining. 

It is absolutely clear where we are coming from, our sources of finance, roughly how much it costs from posters here, and what you can expect from posts here. If you want to do something then start your own blog and raise the topics there. If the NACTs or SST operated on the same basis then we&#039;d have a lot better idea about who is manipulating politics in NZ.

But basically I suspect you are too damn lazy to actually do the work required to get a profile, plus of course you&#039;re a lousy writer. ]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can complain all you want about transparency of trusts, about disclosures of pecuniary interests, and special interest groups like the brethren. But when <strong>[deleted]</strong> allegedly posts under a pseudonym on your site, offerring 11 &#8220;opinion pieces&#8221; his anonymity is protected? You used to give a shit Felix, not so long ago either, or is it different when you are trying to protect your own, ala Phillip Field?<br />
<strong><br />
[lprent: Read the <a href="/about" rel="nofollow">about</a> about who we are and quit whining. </p>
<p>It is absolutely clear where we are coming from, our sources of finance, roughly how much it costs from posters here, and what you can expect from posts here. If you want to do something then start your own blog and raise the topics there. If the NACTs or SST operated on the same basis then we'd have a lot better idea about who is manipulating politics in NZ.</p>
<p>But basically I suspect you are too damn lazy to actually do the work required to get a profile, plus of course you're a lousy writer. ]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175771</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the standard being stuffed in people&#039;s letter boxes now is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the standard being stuffed in people&#8217;s letter boxes now is it?</p>
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		<title>By: graham</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175765</link>
		<dc:creator>graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point about this post is it just a left wing view or is it part of the election campaign by &lt;strong&gt;[deleted]&lt;/strong&gt;?
Remember you cant complain about the bretherian and pull the same stuff

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent: In case you hadn&#039;t noticed, Len is a competent left-leaning candidate. It is highly likely that any of the posters here would tend towards supporting him (including me). Are you then going to assert that I&#039;m part of some f*ckwit conspiracy?  
Read the &lt;a href=&quot;/about&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;about&lt;/a&gt; and&lt;a href=&quot;/policy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; policy&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;m going to start banning shortly rather than simply amending. ]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point about this post is it just a left wing view or is it part of the election campaign by <strong>[deleted]</strong>?<br />
Remember you cant complain about the bretherian and pull the same stuff</p>
<p><strong>[lprent: In case you hadn't noticed, Len is a competent left-leaning candidate. It is highly likely that any of the posters here would tend towards supporting him (including me). Are you then going to assert that I'm part of some f*ckwit conspiracy?<br />
Read the <a href="/about" rel="nofollow">about</a> and<a href="/policy" rel="nofollow"> policy</a>. I'm going to start banning shortly rather than simply amending. ]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shipley-to-knife-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-175723</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zOMG!!!! I KNOW WHO JARED IS!!!!!1

Like anyone gives a shit.

Didn&#039;t Lynn make this a banning offense lately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zOMG!!!! I KNOW WHO JARED IS!!!!!1</p>
<p>Like anyone gives a shit.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Lynn make this a banning offense lately?</p>
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