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		<title>By: kiwiteen123</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189822</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwiteen123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a stupid comment when I see one (I&#039;ve made a few of my own)
Swearing makes you look like an angry troll.
Bad puns look bad.
Stupid jokes are stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a stupid comment when I see one (I&#8217;ve made a few of my own)<br />
Swearing makes you look like an angry troll.<br />
Bad puns look bad.<br />
Stupid jokes are stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189711</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would expect them to be able to read well enough to know that this is a post about Lhaws and not education standard measures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would expect them to be able to read well enough to know that this is a post about Lhaws and not education standard measures.</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189710</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you would know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you would know.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189688</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Have you got your cock between two buttered wafers because you&#039;re fucking crackers.&quot;

f&#039;n lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Have you got your cock between two buttered wafers because you&#8217;re fucking crackers.&#8221;</p>
<p>f&#8217;n lol</p>
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		<title>By: rainman</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189681</link>
		<dc:creator>rainman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on my experience, I&#039;m with you, Irish - but perhaps it&#039;s a regional phenomenon?

Anyway - on the issue of national standards: as they are set up now they will not result in the weeding out of under-performing teachers, the improvement in educational outcomes (in a statistically significant way), or the intelligibility and objectivity of school reporting. Just another National party simple solution.

Has anyone read the sample reports on the tki site? Are these really significantly different to what schools provide today? And, why not just mandate PAT testing? The schools know how to do it and it&#039;s proven - just not ubiquitous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on my experience, I&#8217;m with you, Irish &#8211; but perhaps it&#8217;s a regional phenomenon?</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; on the issue of national standards: as they are set up now they will not result in the weeding out of under-performing teachers, the improvement in educational outcomes (in a statistically significant way), or the intelligibility and objectivity of school reporting. Just another National party simple solution.</p>
<p>Has anyone read the sample reports on the tki site? Are these really significantly different to what schools provide today? And, why not just mandate PAT testing? The schools know how to do it and it&#8217;s proven &#8211; just not ubiquitous.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189675</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprised he&#039;s not wanting to bring back the cane as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprised he&#8217;s not wanting to bring back the cane as well.</p>
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		<title>By: IrishBill</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189670</link>
		<dc:creator>IrishBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t see it, Rex, and I know a lot of teachers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t see it, Rex, and I know a lot of teachers.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189665</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not talking voting intentions, IB, I&#039;m talking doing the crappy work - going round putting up signs, handing out leadlets etc - that so few in any political party (bar, perhaps, the Greens) seem willing to do nowadays.

It seems many of those teachers committed to Labour aren&#039;t passive about it, which makes them a valuable asset come election time. That could be as much a function of available time as level of commitment, or perhaps a bit of both.

National supporters - even those who are teachers - are invariably less motivated it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not talking voting intentions, IB, I&#8217;m talking doing the crappy work &#8211; going round putting up signs, handing out leadlets etc &#8211; that so few in any political party (bar, perhaps, the Greens) seem willing to do nowadays.</p>
<p>It seems many of those teachers committed to Labour aren&#8217;t passive about it, which makes them a valuable asset come election time. That could be as much a function of available time as level of commitment, or perhaps a bit of both.</p>
<p>National supporters &#8211; even those who are teachers &#8211; are invariably less motivated it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189664</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put, Daveski. That&#039;s pretty much my answer to your question, quenchino. Yes, the PPTA will protect its members regardless, as it should. That doesn&#039;t make its attitude to poor performers right... indeed it ensures that for part of the time they will be quite wrong. But that&#039;s as it should be - we just need to stop treating them as the Oracle when it comes to matters education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put, Daveski. That&#8217;s pretty much my answer to your question, quenchino. Yes, the PPTA will protect its members regardless, as it should. That doesn&#8217;t make its attitude to poor performers right&#8230; indeed it ensures that for part of the time they will be quite wrong. But that&#8217;s as it should be &#8211; we just need to stop treating them as the Oracle when it comes to matters education.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac1</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189663</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sic transit gloria mundi, on a Sunday night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sic transit gloria mundi, on a Sunday night.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Dale</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189662</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see I&#039;m not going to get an answer here, so gudnight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see I&#8217;m not going to get an answer here, so gudnight.</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189661</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac1</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189660</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do you think the school who thinks year two students should be able to recognize letter,s are setting thier standards for students too low????&quot;

That&#039;s your question, Brett Dale, and the name of the school which you allege has as its highest requirement the ability to recognise the letter B, in your words, is important for us to know so that we can figure out whether you are being truthful.

BTW, the word is &quot;which&quot; and not &quot;who&quot; when referring to a thing, commas are not apostrophes, &quot;their&quot; is spelt like that and anyway should not refer to a singular noun and one question mark is usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you think the school who thinks year two students should be able to recognize letter,s are setting thier standards for students too low????&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s your question, Brett Dale, and the name of the school which you allege has as its highest requirement the ability to recognise the letter B, in your words, is important for us to know so that we can figure out whether you are being truthful.</p>
<p>BTW, the word is &#8220;which&#8221; and not &#8220;who&#8221; when referring to a thing, commas are not apostrophes, &#8220;their&#8221; is spelt like that and anyway should not refer to a singular noun and one question mark is usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Dale</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189659</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The school&#039;s name is not important.

Oh it&#039;s in a good area by the way.

I just think after two years at school kids should be able to do more than recognize letters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The school&#8217;s name is not important.</p>
<p>Oh it&#8217;s in a good area by the way.</p>
<p>I just think after two years at school kids should be able to do more than recognize letters.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Welsh</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/shorter-lhaws/comment-page-1/#comment-189658</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah it does.

Unless you name the school, we can assume you are talking a load of shiit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it does.</p>
<p>Unless you name the school, we can assume you are talking a load of shiit.</p>
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