Comments on: So, what are you going to do?

By: Labour lolz at The Standard

Labour lolz at The Standard — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:49:42 +0000

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By: So whatcha gonna to do about it then? at The Standard

So whatcha gonna to do about it then? at The Standard — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:01:57 +0000

[...] looking for is an alternative. Increasingly people are starting to ask of the opposition “So what are you going to do differently?” They’ve asked it in relation to sow crates. They’ve asked it in [...]

By: Kiwipolitico » Blog Archive » All talk, no trousers â€“ Labour’s position on pig farming

Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:12:41 +0000

[...] be more So we asked, a whole bunch of comments on Red Alert and a whole bunch on a related post on The Standard, we asked “What is Labour going to do?” You see this is an area where Labour, although [...]

By: BLiP

BLiP — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:25:09 +0000

This is a subject that causes me, from time to time, to despair at New Zealanders. If there was a popular response to the premeditated cruelty to pigs, the problem would disappear in a matter of months. The simple withholding of individual consumer expenditure on pork would see those brands practising corporate sadism upon simple beasts vanish from the shelves. But no. It doesn’t happen because your average kiwi consumer actually doesn’t give one flying fuck about the tragedy of a porcine’s fate – they’ve got too much else on their plate.

Meanwhile, the politicians roll out the drama so as to feed pap to the media while some other shenanigans occur. John Campbell was led astray last time and, in 2009, I reckon the Greens got played by the activists – the careful drip feeding of celebrity clips, break-in cam, pics, soundbites and, finally, actual facts, was brilliant.

Excellent to see Crosby/Textor hasn’t got the market on feeding the chooks.

By: toad

toad — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:26:32 +0000

I agree Eddie. The Greens have been a lone voice on this for many years – on the basis of principle.

I doubt many (if any) Labour or National MPs actually approve of the conditions that pigs endure in sow crates – although Roger Douglas does, because he’s been there.

But the Nat-Labs think it better to turn a blind eye, just in case they upset the powerful farming lobby.

Well, here’s an idea. Why don’t the Nats and the Labs both agree to endorse the Green position on this issue? Politically isolate the factory farmers – give them no room to move.

There is nothing to lose politically for any of the three largest parties if we are all singing from the same songsheet – the one that promotes animal welfare.
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By: Rochelle Rees

Rochelle Rees — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:51:12 +0000

Thanks for that Eddie

As I just commented on Red Alert, great to hear Labour saying SOMETHING on the issue. The question is, when are they actually going to form a policy?

For example, is Labour actually opposed to sow crates, and would they move to ban them if in government? How about farrowing crates? Fattening pens? Should we be farming pigs outside instead of intensively confining them their whole lives?

Until they do have a policy they have no credibility on the issue.

By: Used Napkin

Used Napkin — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:42:17 +0000

Mr Burns is a fat pork chop.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:56:41 +0000

I agree here. Labour should actually have had the guts to do something rather than belatedly join a ‘band wagon’ now…

So the question is – what is Labour actually going to do??