Comments on: Some questions

By: The Standard 2.01: Key moves to shut down hard questions

The Standard 2.01: Key moves to shut down hard questions — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:33:16 +0000

[...] that fails and something embarrassing comes out, attack the journo. Key did this over the “we would love to see wages drop” quote, the Kiwisaver leak, and when he said NZ has never experienced internal conflict. [...]

By: Free Speech Worries « KiwiBlogBlog

Free Speech Worries « KiwiBlogBlog — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:36:18 +0000

[...] to crush journalistic freedom and editorial freedom. Our chums over at The Standard ran quite a few stories exposing the manner in which Davey’s slippery MP mates tried to heavy the journalist and [...]

By: Political interference at APN at thestandard.org.nz

Political interference at APN at thestandard.org.nz — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:39:57 +0000

[...] night we published a tip-off that the New Zealand Herald planned to run a story advising its APN stable-mate the Bay Report [...]

By: dave

dave — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:56:19 +0000

Yes, ther is a story here – but not the “story” told by The Standard… get your angles right, boys and girl.

By: r0b

r0b — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:21:38 +0000

If I thought I had been misquoted I too would put pressure on the media to correct it.

So you not see any difference between you doing that, and a major politician doing that?

Why has it been front page news every time it seems Clark or Cullen has expressed an opinion on the media? And given that context, why should it not be front page news if Key does the same? Does he get some kind of special free pass?

Not to mention that if he really did try to get a reporter sacked, then he way crossed the line, and he should resign.

By: r0b

r0b — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:09:26 +0000

Hey bean – good to see you back!

By: r0b

r0b — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:08:18 +0000

But rOb there is no evidence of such interference. Only The Standard’s inferences.

Insider, it’s true that no one has (yet) popped up with a recording of Key on the phone to the Hearld’s owners or whatever. But add up the public comments that are on record, in this thread, and also in this one:

http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1285

If you can reasonably come to any conclusion other than “Key / National have been putting pressure on the mdeia”, well, good for you, I admire your touching faith in the purity of politicians.

By: the sprout

the sprout — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:39:17 +0000

you’ve usually made a hit when you’re either “PC” or “a conspiracist”. the conspiracist dismissal seems to be growing in popularity at the moment.

By: Robinsod

Robinsod — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:30:43 +0000

specifically to clean up his mess

Oh, but I think they may have made a bigger mess…

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0803/S00055.htm

By: the bean

the bean — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:28:31 +0000

“Oh FFS bean. Stop looking for conspiracies in every part of your little life. It’s the online name I have been using for years in a range of fora.

To be absolutely clear, all I know about the specifics of this case are what has appeared in public fora such as here and the papers.

Stop taking the paranoia pills and engage on the issues”

Nerve hit anyone? next insider will use that witty zing ‘go put on your tinfoil hat’.

By: r0b

r0b — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:27:04 +0000

Say you go and buy a car.

All very reasonable Brownie. But – when the PM makes some mildly critical remarks of The Herald, it gets plastered all over the front page. So clearly politician’s relationships to the media are somewhat more sensitive than my relationship with a car dealer. They are news.

Here we have Key / National, not making a few public remarks, but apparently using their mates the owners to put pressure on editors to influence what is reported. That’s news. It should be plastered all over the front page.

By: the bean

the bean — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:26:32 +0000

“You also have the same privilege, Bean. If someone materially affects you by getting something wrong, you too have the right to complain to whomever will listen until it’s either proven that you were right or wrong.”

Actually Brownie I don’t. I wouldn’t have the public profile to make enough of a fuss to push a paper into ‘correcting’ what I had said.

Key here has people working for him specifically to clean up his mess and this is what they have managed to do- he stuffed up. Just like he did on Breakfast yesterday, and about Iraq and about the Auckland Airport issue. This time though he was able to throw his weight around and the herald jumped. I bet if he hadn’t been caught on camera screwing up his treaty policy he would have claimed Paul Henry lied as well.

By: Robinsod

Robinsod — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:24:49 +0000

insider – the story came out in December and turned up in parliament three weeks ago. The paper stood by it until the CEO stepped in. What the fuck would the CEO (not a journalist) know about the story that the people on the ground didn’t? Answer: nothing except what he was told to do by National.

By: Tane

Tane — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:24:18 +0000

they got much of the clarification printing wrong, despite having a direct source/

No, we had a second-hand tip-off and made it very clear that’s what it was. We told our readers (some) of what we knew asked some relevant questions. I’m actually pretty stoked our tip-off was largely right.

By: insider

insider — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:22:21 +0000

Oh FFS bean. Stop looking for conspiracies in every part of your little life. It’s the online name I have been using for years in a range of fora.

To be absolutely clear, all I know about the specifics of this case are what has appeared in public fora such as here and the papers.

Stop taking the paranoia pills and engage on the issues.