Comments on: Standard Scoop: Key gives poor another booting

By: Ben R

Ben R — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:01:27 +0000

“to satisfy his wealthy upper-middle class Helensville elector”

Demonising an out group?

“Phantom enemies or out-groups are externalised as impediments to achieving a harmonious or better society. Appeals are made to deep-seated prejudices; scapegoats are identified and held responsible for slow progress. The majority is pitted against minority groups, or perhaps social cleavages are exploited to create a new majority usually by exploiting a perceived grievance or by making a coded appeal to ignorance or worse, to prejudice and hatred ” from Jon Johansson rhetoric article posted on another thread.

By: tony norriss

tony norriss — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:04:23 +0000

If people are rewarded for being poor, they will stay poor.

By: rjs131

rjs131 — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:43:34 +0000

Well Darien, if Key’s comments are so bad and so unpopular with the Electorate then you will be winning in a landslide. No doubt all those people that supported Mr Key last time are complete morons and will be supporting you this time. How much do u think u will be winning by? I would ahve thought under your brilliant economic management there would be no need for state houses or are you suggesting you hvae failed to bring prosperity to the people of this electorate?

By: dave

dave — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:54:41 +0000

Hey is this tape the tape that TV3 and other media have?

By: Nick C

Nick C — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:47:29 +0000

Hey Clint, broken the EFA lately?

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/four_more_decisions_from_the_electoral_commission.html

Interesting how National has yet to be ruled against and Labour has broken the law several times…

[no, I was found not to have breached the EFA. SP]

By: rave

rave — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:38:31 +0000

Central Banks are not independent of the ruling class as recent events prove.
Key is just issuing orders to big note himself as messenger of Wall St and the City and protect his own shares in the global casino.
Since the ruling class is getting away with this giant scam, his level of arrogance has got a boost, and he and English are strutting around as if they are the government already. They miscalculated the reaction to junking Kiwisaver badly.
TV 3 tonight gave them a rev up for a change.
More leaks from English on ‘winning at all costs’.

By: randal

randal — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:26:50 +0000

I thought the hallmark of a central bank was its indpendence. If Keys is putting demands on the rbnz then he has definitely gone over the bounds of all constitutional arrangments in New ZEaland and the corruption of the democratic process is unconscionable.

By: roger nome

roger nome — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:19:43 +0000

coge – what do you call “affordable”? When you’re working 30 hours a week in a low-paid retail job, even a cheap $200,000-$250,000 house is going to be light years away from being affordable.

By: Scribe

Scribe — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:13:23 +0000

Ms Fenton (or anyone else who knows the answer),

Just out of curiosity, what size are/were the lots for these state houses going to be?

By: coge

coge — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:59:36 +0000

Darien, with the state of the housing market soon the workers will have affordable homes. Without the need for Govt intervention.

By: Steve Pierson

Steve Pierson — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:52:21 +0000

cheers Darien. keep fighting the good fight up there

By: Darien Fenton

Darien Fenton — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:49:54 +0000

I was at the candidates meeting with John Key on Monday night with a hostile crowd of anti state housers, along with other more reasonable people. I was disgusted at John Key’s comments. I have walked the Hobsonville site (and at least I live in the area, unlike John Key!) and it is a fantastic and unique opportunity to create a mixed community with 500 State Houses, 500 Affordable Homes and 2000 other homes, along with industry, jobs, schools and recreational and waterfront areas for the whole community. My question to Key was – where will the workers live? Hobsonville will need retail workers, teachers, nurses, health workers, cleaners, food workers and others… but it seems like they should just go somewhere else.

Appalling.

By: Steve Pierson

Steve Pierson — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:46:57 +0000

burt. I would support that.

By: Positive and ambitious

Positive and ambitious — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:45:35 +0000

John Key is trying to help the poor… today he is demanding the reserve bank drop interest rates right away. That’s leadership for you.
Imagine the wailing if Cullen started telling Bollard how to run the reserve bank…

[lprent: Just shows John Key's lack of experience. The last time we had a National leader doing that kind of thing (muldoon) we racked up 30 years of debt. That is why there is a clear separation between the roles of the government and the reserve bank. It is usually honored by the major parties.]

By: burt

burt — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:37:47 +0000

Steve P.

Is Helen Clark renting out her 5 spare houses for below market rent? Perhaps she could gift them to the poor – what do you think?