Written By: - Date published: 7:59 pm, February 24th, 2009 - 73 comments
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According to RNZ:
Official papers confirm low income families will be worse off under the National Government’s tax cut package, compared with Labour’s.
Radio New Zealand‘s political editor says papers obtained under the Official Information Act, also show higher earners will be better off. From April 2011 a person with children earning $40,000 per year will pay $250 more per year in tax than if Labour had stayed in power. The less money earned, the bigger the loss.
However, someone earning $100,000 will be $750 per year better off than under Labour. Low income single workers, who don’t get the Working for Families tax credits, will also be much better off. A single person earning $40,000 will get an extra $530 per year by 2011 under the Government’s package.
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“You ask us to have faith (sic) your ideas RB”
Completely wrong Redillogix. I ask nothing from you. Least of all that you write so many words of idiotic opinion and assertion on Redbaiter in the apparent delusion that they represent some kind of objective verdict or contribution to the discussion.
..and why is it that you collectivists always always always insanely express yourself using the plural pronoun in apparent ignorance of the ill manners and mental weakness such pretense betrays?
Go away you shallow unintelligent infantile bore. Only an utterly brainless idiot would put such time and effort into something so petty, petulant and worthless.
“The dominant characteristic found in all tyrants is their intolerance for the political ideas of others” – Redbaiter.
And there was I thinking it was their love of uniforms and big parades.
The realpolitik of the world today is the rejection of all you stand for, ‘baiter. Take comfort that the NZ election was a result against the tide, but no more. That sound you hear is your own private Berlin Wall coming down around your ears, the death rattles of the free market, echoing down the empty concrete canyons of Wall St..
RB,
and why is it that you collectivists always always always insanely express yourself using the plural pronoun
This is an open forum RB, and your comments can be read by anyone who can be bothered. In this context the use of the plural form is perfectly legitimate.
Completely wrong Redillogix. I ask nothing from you.
Yes you do. In just the post above you stated:
I’m hoping that I can shock you from that state into a return to normality.
So in one post you explicitly state an expectation from those reading this thread, and in the next you say you ask nothing of me. It does not add up buddy. (Again you address these comments in a general fashion in an open thread, on which anyone is free to read and reply…so the ‘I wasn’t talking to you’ line won’t cut mustard.)
Only an utterly brainless idiot would put such time and effort into something so petty, petulant and worthless.
Denial mode RB. I’m not an utterly brainless idiot and neither are you, so what exactly was the point of this sentence. It wouldn’t be petty, petulant and worthless by any chance?
“In this context the use of the plural form is perfectly legitimate.”
It is ill mannered, ignorant, and insane.
“Yes you do. In just the post above you stated:”
Piffling coward. A remark directed at The Voice of Bigotry, and not any kind of request, and certainly not a request of you.
“It wouldn’t be petty, petulant and worthless by any chance?”
No it wouldn’t be. Its an attempt to puncture your self importance, pomposity, arrogance and condescension. All completely misplaced. You are not at all the clever person you so obviously believe yourself to be.
Now, if you want to talk tax, go for it, but your partisan expressions of dislike for Redbaiter are just boring infantile shit.
“The realpolitik of the world today is the rejection of all you stand for, ‘baiter.’
Yeah, the commun*st apparach*ks was saying just that kind of thing immediately prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union.
The same old same old collectivist drones who throughout histroy have failed to grasp the simple idea that there has to be prosperity before there can be tax.
“The realpolitik of the world today is the rejection of all you stand for, ‘baiter.’
Yeah, the commun*st apparach*ks were saying just that kind of thing immediately prior to the collapse of the Sov*et Un*on.
The same old same old collectivist drones who throughout history have failed to grasp the simple idea that there has to be prosperity before there can be tax.
It is ill mannered, ignorant, and insane.
If you are on some form of ideological crusade to expunge the use of the personal plural pronoun from the English language, why not come out an just say so, instead of being ill mannered, ignorant and insane about it?
A remark directed at The Voice of Bigotry, and not any kind of request, and certainly not a request of you.
If you want your remarks to remain private use a private medium like email. If you make general remarks in a public forum, others such as myself will read them and reply if we wish. In trying to stop me from doing so, you again act like a petty tyrant.
Its an attempt to puncture your self importance, pomposity, arrogance and condescension.
So now you DO want something from me. If your words remained unread by me and unreflected upon by me, then they could have no effect could they? You require me to not only read what you say, but for them to have ANY effect (such as puncturing my self importance), it is essential that I believe them to have some truth or import. At that point you ask something of me RB.
And how I choose to spend my time and energy responding is entirely a matter for me to choose. Again, trying to shut me down, by telling me what I can or cannot reply to is the act of a petty tyrant.
You are not at all the clever person you so obviously believe yourself to be.
I am secure about where my ‘cleverness’ fits in to the general scheme of things RB. But your clearly pointless attempt to shut me down by judging me to be an utterly brainless idiot is the act of a petty tyrant. It’s the kind of scathing humiliation that incompetent, bullying school teachers indulge in when they have lost control.
As with much of your language.
I wonder if “Ill mannered, ignorant, and insane” only implies to ‘collectivists’ using the plural pronoun. Apparently when Redbaiter talks about the Mythical Right rising up (the Mythical Right of which he is clearly the collectiivst spokesperson for, as evidenced by him talking about what ‘we’ are doing, usually rising up etc etc) it’s alright. And yet Redbaiter never answers when Redbaiter is asked who or what this Mythical Right is. They’re not the Right that everyone I’ve ever seen who professes to be Right is, so I wonder who they are. Maybe they pretend to be Leftists for some odd reason.
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Sleeping on duty? I’m not sure that is quite the look that an ardent defender of demo.. (umm of what?). It sure isn’t democracy. An ardent defender of “my right to be a arsehole” aka a Heinlenist perhaps?
I think I’m one of those as well – but more of a redbaiter-baiter
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The old ‘fleeing the debate with tail between legs’ gambit, while maintaining a transparent pretense of not doing so.
I have seen all your repertoire of tricks RB, and you are rapidly using them up.
I’m yet to get a decent answer. I do wonder who Redbaiter collectively speaks for, and why he’s allowed to collectively speak for them, yet collectivists are selectively ill mannered, ignorant, and insane for doing much the same.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Redbaiter does, in fact, speak for all three of ‘We’, whereas there is quite a collection of collectivists; thus I can’t speak for them all – he’s just gormed there are so few of Redbaiter’s ‘We’ and so many of the ‘collectivists’ ‘Us’…
Instead of you lot ganging up on Redbaiter, why don’t we get back to the topic. Incidentally the gang mentality is generally associated with people who are individually weak. In my opinion the lower paid would not be so low paid if they weren’t so fucking useless. I’ve been banned for life so I doubt this will get posted.
[lprent: Well your comments are pure crap, classically moronic right wing, they are largely devoid of any significant content. However they seldom come up for moderation - mainly because you actually write your own opinions rather than spouting someone else's lines. I think that IB probably went a bit overboard on my defense (which wasn't required), so I will rescind the ban.
Anyway to answer your question - why should we deprive RB of his pleasure. I get the distinct impression the main reason that he is here is because all of the left-wingers have left the sewer. How can you be a red-baiter if all of the other commentators are sycophantic John Key brown-noses mindlessly following the ideology of PR. I seem to remember a philosophy of that kind of personality cult. Jamestown? Stalin, Mao, ..... etc ]