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The courage of their convictions

Written By: - Date published: 11:21 am, February 26th, 2012 - 68 comments
Categories: activism, Conservation, Mining - Tags: , , ,

While most of us talk about “saving the world” some people act.

I have a lot of respect for the Greenpeace activists, including headline-woman Lucy Lawless, who are occupying a Shell Oil drilling ship, to prevent its departure to start drilling operations in the Arctic.

Now in their third day of occupation atop a high tower, and attracting international attention, the six remaining activists are hanging on in dangerous and difficult conditions.

They planned their protest carefully so as not to endanger others, or interfere with the operation of the ship. But they are breaking the law, and thus all willingly risking the legal consequences (and possible career damage etc).

Of course many from the right wing of politics will condemn them as law breakers. But what is a sane person to do when the law is an ass, and the world has gone mad? In my opinion the actions of these protestors are fully justified, entirely rational, and very very brave. From the guilty comfort of my ergonomic chair and the safety of my keyboard, I salute you all.

68 comments on “The courage of their convictions”

  1. Anne 1

    Hear, hear… I salute their bravery.

    These are the kind of people whose names will be writ large in the history books.

  2. ianmac 2

    Very true. Courage of convictions and action to go with it. Of course the breaking of law (lawless?) can be a problem. We make laws to protect people and property – don’t we? And breaking laws is always wrong – isn’t it? Remember that the main reason that National Standards were supported by many seemed to be that to not do as the Government said, was breaking the law and lawbreakers should be sacked. Yes?
    In both cases the protests seem to be legitimate. When Authorities appear to ignore concerns (Asset Sales, Crafar Farms, Arctic drilling, National Standards) then the brave must be supported. Go Lucy, lawless or not!

  3. fender 3

    Apparently if Shell have a stuff-up and their oil well starts pumping oil into the Arctic sea just prior to a northern winter theres nothing they can do until the following summer. This means billions of crude could be leaking for months without anything being done to stop it. This would be the real crime and the damage would be far worse than anything we have seen before.

  4. Let the boat sail today as planned with them on board – that’s dedication.
    Has the Welsh Greenman Gareth Hughes joined them yet ? – he said he would today.

  5. Wayne 5

    Firstly why is drilling in the Artic necessarily bad?

    Secondly it has nothing to do with courage, but everything to do with attention seeking by rich Westerners with nothing else to do with their time.

    Most people are working hard to barely make ends meet.

    It is only people with enough financial security, who have time for such self-indulgent nonsense.

    • ron 5.1

      That’s one of the funniest things I ever read this week, Wayne. You’re seriously asking why there ,might be concerns about drilling in the Arctic? I’ll let you look that one up.
      And you’re dismissing the protest because the people protesting have the resources to protest. I agree. I watched a bunch of middle class people wasting their time indulging themselves last night – it was disgusting. Most people are struggling to make ends meet and yet here were all these people in a big stadium wasting their time. The only reason they were there is because they could afford to be self indulgent and waste their time. And as for the players! What a joke. Why weren’t they doing something useful? Like…I dunno…..working to create a safer, more sustainable planet…..?
      Are you suggesting that the only people who should be allowed to protest are poor people who can’t afford to protest? Or are you suggesting that no-one should protest anything?

      • Macro 5.1.1

        He can’t read ron.
        Not even the comment above his own….

        • McFlock 5.1.1.1

          Be fair – it might not have been posted when he started the comment.
          I wouldn’t be surprised if it took him 45mins to look up “self indulgent”.

  6. Wayne 6

    I say the authorities should indulge these protesters wish to be seen as brave, and chase them off the ship with police dogs and batons. Crack their fucking heads.

    • felix 6.1

      Wayne, I wish to apologise.

      In previous threads I’ve called you a racist, a f@cist, a cultural imperialist, a philistine, a homophobe, a hateful little fuck, a totalitarian, an authoritarian, and a number of other unkind things.

      The more you comment here, the more I see that you’re not like that at all.

    • fender 6.2

      You are a total prick Wayneker. You are everything Felix says you are and more.
      Why don’t you get back on your mountain bike and practice your back-flips off the Kelburn Viaduct, and don’t bother wearing a crash helmet as your brain couldn’t become any more damaged than it already is.

    • Macro 6.3

      gezz I never knew dogs were so clever!
      They can abseil an all!
      What an idiot!

      • Wayne 6.3.1

        whoops!

        Maybe then take the tops of their heads off with a 7.62x51mm M40 sniper’s rifle?

        See how long they can continue their protest with half their heads missing. If they can manage that, all power to em!

        God…these types of people make me sick.

        [lprent: Banned permanently. Giving space to such an idiot is making me feel sick. Another fucking gutless armchair warrior without as much intelligence as a rabid dog, and no understanding of what makes a democracy work. Shooting protesters? ]

        [Thanks Lynn. As mentioned before I’ve been tempted to ban this guy repeatedly for some weeks now; instead I fell back on the ‘givem enuff rope’ principle, however sickening it got. In one sense he rather fascinated me. He isn’t a troll in the usual sense, nor is he uneducated or an ‘idiot’.

        Usually trolls know they are being idiots; Wayne on the other hand will make an apparently outrageous statement… and then proceed to defend himself with considerable depth and some skill. He really believes in what he says.

        I took the trouble of showing some of Wayne’s contributiuons to a Chinese colleague of mine last week; her response came in two parts.. one was yes he is almost surely a Chinese national, and two the country is full of these noxious Little Emperors. She thought it was not so much the effect of being a single child, but a whole generation of young men brought up with an aggressively privileged outlook on life. Then she quietly said… “Why do you think I live in this country, so far from my parents?”….RedLogix]

  7. Carol 7

    And this was tweeted by Lawless today:

    http://twitter.com/#!/RealLucyLawless

    RadioNZ has informed us that a Petrobras tanker ran aground off Antarctica 12/11. Cover-up. Follow this story. @GreenpeaceNZ #SaveTheArctic

    And there are also updates on the occupation being tweeted here:

    http://twitter.com/#!/GreenpeaceNZ

  8. grumpy 8

    Sea Shepherd are brave, these are just attention seeking morons chasing a lost cause. Faded TV stars looking for relevance.

    • infused 8.1

      Pretty much. Altho her titties are nice in Spartacus.

      Reading her twitter I am shacking my head. What rubbish.

      • seeker 8.1.1

        infused- you should be very ashamed of this tacky, debased comment about a very courageous and principled mother.

        • grumpy 8.1.1.1

          Nah, nothing she has done (especially Sparticus) has led me to believe she is anything other than an airhead who gets her top off.
          Who next??? Paris Hilton, Britney Spears???????

          • Colonial Viper 8.1.1.1.1

            Paris Hilton has already been seen climbing atop a pole.

          • Carol 8.1.1.1.2

            Actually, Lawless is not a great actress, but I don’t believe she is an airhead. She’s OK in certain acting parts, but she can be quite sharp in interviews. She may turn out to be better in the political arena than as an actor.

            PS: most Hollywood actresses, starlets, airheads and minor celebrities, would make a big effort to avoid being in the public eye in a hard hat and overall, without all the plastic make-up, designer clothes etc., and unable to shower for a few days on end.

            • infused 8.1.1.1.2.1

              She is a good actor. She is great in Spartacus. One of the best shows I’ve seen since Boardwalk Empire.

              It was some just tongue in cheek. Don’t stress guys.

    • fender 8.2

      Yeah looking for relevance grumpy….relevance for the planet to sustain humans in the future, despite the irrelevance of many of those very humans e.g: grumpy, infused (jerking off over Lucys chest), wayne (good riddance wayneker) gosman et al

  9. I have plenty of respect for Lucy Lawless as an actress but none for getting on a ship, and hiding behind slogans. It’s sad she is so dedicated but she doesn’t realise she’s a skirt to hide behind and is probably being used by others the visibility her fame and money brings to the political cause.

    • Macro 9.1

      Talkabout absolute nonsense! Yes LL’s presence gets media attention both in NZ and around the world.. But she stands up for what she knows is right, and has done so for some years now.
      This protest is not about slogans, it’s about drawing attention to the environmental dangers of oil exploration in the Arctic, and the consequences to global warming of trying to continue with business as usual.

    • muzza 9.2

      Or maybe she actually gives a fuck, and understands that her “being well known” will gain more peoples attention, than if she were a nobody…..sad as that might be, given the importance of the cause/message I wouls say that more attention would be preferred to less!

      Lets get a piece going about who on the boards actually actively participates somehow other than blog…

      Off you go Monique!

      • Colonial Viper 9.2.1

        Hey don’t grumble, Monique is doing her bit by providing “a skirt” for Peter Dunne and Pete George to hide behind!

  10. Good on you Lucy, I admire your courage.

    BUT, even if every human left the planet tonight, the environment will still hit temperatures that will lead to the extinction of all manuals. We are locked into runaway GW now, peak oil is just the icing on the cake, go home and relax, it is all to little to late, the human experiment is just about over, and in several million years time, life will carry on, without us.

    Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOMWzjrRiBg An animated documentary about resource depletion & the impossibility of infinite growth on a finite planet…. or why KiwiSaver will never payout, at least to people under 55 😉

    Greenpeace like the green party are part of the problem
    watch this to understand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hx-G1uhRqA even Capitan Paul Watson agrees

    • McFlock 10.1

      even if every human left the planet tonight, the environment will still hit temperatures that will lead to the extinction of all manuals.

       
      at least the automatics will be okay, then. I was worried for a moment.

      • grumpy 10.1.1

        Well spotted McFlock. However, it’s a bit obvious how desperate the AGW flat earthers are getting now their “science” is being blown apart – from both sides…..

        • McFlock 10.1.1.1

          “blown apart”? In your dreams.
           
          I just disagree with the concept of futility of action.

          • Colonial Viper 10.1.1.1.1

            Its the futility of inaction which is going to get us. Mind you, I dont think climate change is the problem our civilisation faces. That’s 100 years down the track. Significant energy depletion is a mere 5-10 years away, and the early crests of it are already buffetting us.

        • Robert Atack 10.1.1.2

          Not that I should be replying to a non person, but just for the record I bet the ten year old kid who spotted the kings naked butt, and spoke up about it, couldn’t spell to well?
          But good laugh anyway )
          McFlock
          Bailing steerage with a thimble wouldn’t be a futile action to you?
          We are passed the point of no return, the ice berg is in the rear view mirror, you can dream as much as you like about ‘positive action’ it doesn’t matter, the only thing you can do is discourage any new children, and that is not to make the environment better, or even slow what is under way, it will just mean every child NOT born is one that will not suffer what is already in action, and that is as positive as I can be. Hence my middle name.
          Even the occupy movement was about just getting a bigger cut of the pie, which is in fact the planet.
          So do whatever cranks your handle, but don’t fool yourself that it will change a bloody thing.

          • McFlock 10.1.1.2.1

            Meh.
             
            In that case I might as well grab a laugh where I can – you’re the one who suggested we should be relaxed about it!
              
            Interesting philosophical point about hether not living is better than living in the next 70 years. Should we all just suicide now?

            • Grumpy 10.1.1.2.1.1

              The more I think about it, Tamar Iti had the right idea…….

            • Robert Atack 10.1.1.2.1.2

              70? more like 25years )
              http://www.youtube.com/user/oilcrash1#p/a/f/0/yOq2A_SGTYA
              http://www.youtube.com/user/oilcrash1#p/a/f/1/q4Czw3Y_ARE

              Suicide, will only reduce personal suffering, many many people will choose this option though. Better to top yourself than be stored for food … ala The Road.
              It is not my fault in anyway, I do not have children, as much good luck as good management.All I’m doing is pointing out the facts, you can get as insulting and cry baby as you like, throw as many tantrums as you like, it still doesn’t change a thing, ‘we’ didn’t deal with reality when it might have done some good, so now it is reality’s turn to deal with us.
              If you have children then bad luck, but again it is not my fault, if you have children under 10 then I guess if I had done a better job maybe I could have saved you some heartache, but alas I was just one broken arssed nut job back then.
              http://oilcrash.com/articles/struggle.htm

              • McFlock

                tantrums? I just made a joke based on a typo. And really, if it’s all futile and we’re all dead within 25 years, who gives a shit whether we go there laughing or just constantly saying “but we’re all doomed, you know”.
                       
                I just think the real terror of existence is turning up to a dinner party to find you at the table.  

                • Draco T Bastard

                  And really, if it’s all futile and we’re all dead within 25 years, who gives a shit whether we go there laughing or just constantly saying “but we’re all doomed, you know”.

                  The most important thing now is to pass along how we screwed up and how some people didn’t want to listen.

                  • McFlock

                    But if Robert’s right, there’s nobody to pass it on to.
                    What are we going to do- etch a message for aliens or intelligent dinosaurs “it wasn’t me”?
                         
                    And if we go to Mad Max, they won’t give a shit. They’ll have other things to worry about.
                          
                     

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Very doubtful that the population of the planet will fall under 1.5B or maybe 2.0B under all but the very worst case scenarios. Humans are pretty damn good at surviving.

                    • McFlock

                      I tend to agree, but think that’s probably a low count. But better than zero.

                • Sorry McF not talking about your manual comment as a ‘tantrum’ I’m talking about things like protesting, the ‘Arab spring’, people going out on strike for better conditions, the occupy movement, etc,
                  Thinks are fast going to crap, that is what post peak oil looks like, it will only get worse, it has to.
                  Lets pretend that ‘we’ could reverse what is in motion, to even come close to changing what is in motion we would need something like 80% unemployment, no personal cars, no flying, no luxury cruses, and a moratorium on new children.
                  Now I know no one is going to go along with voluntary destitution, Key and co are heading in the right direction as far as slowing down the insane breeding numbers in NZ, but it is just not enough.
                  And when I started trying to wake up the general dumb public 12 years ago, I thought all I needed to do was show people the facts, alas people just did not want to know, and it was an utter waste of $25,000+ and thousands of hours of effort.
                  Just for fun I would love to hear what you have been up to over the past decade, and what you plane to do to inform people?
                  This was my attempt http://oilcrash.com/articles/struggle.htm now you do better. .

                  • McFlock

                    What have I been up to in the last ten years? Getting drunk, smoking, and working on safety issues in my local community, among other things.

                    I think what we’re seeing now aren’t so much the effects of peak oil (although it’s helped with food prices) as the transition from global dominance of one power into the commercial and military dominance of another power.

                    But there will probably be water wars in the next twenty years. Personally I’m wondering if Israel will take a bit more of Syria and Lebanon in the period after Assad tumbling (not 100% that he will fall, but it will jiggle the board in interesting ways if he does).

                    I think NZ will miss most of the interesting times in the short (decades) period, though. We’re nice and far away, with enough places in between us and anyone else that other powers will step in before the imperialist armies get here.

                    It’s the AGW and ocean acidification that have potential to screw us.

                    $25k? Should have spent it on whiskey.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      I think what we’re seeing now aren’t so much the effects of peak oil (although it’s helped with food prices) as the transition from global dominance of one power into the commercial and military dominance of another power.

                      And that is a power transition driven by many factors, including energy prices. Higher fuel costs is effectively a tax on every dollar of GDP that the productive economy produces.

                      I’d also argue that for the US, Iraq and Libya were projects partly driven by peak oil (a lack of cheaper easier oil reserves); and the massive cost and logistical complexity of the Afghanistan war is absolutely to do with fuel supply shortages.

                      You can see the US military urgently moving to low fuel foot print technologies, surgical drone strikes instead of massive strategic bombers and this is one of the driving motivations. Interestingly, the US military is way ahead on peak oil thinking. They have to be since an armored division can chug down a million litres of fuel a month without blinking.

                    • McFlock

                      Fuel costs hit China, too. Not as badly because of the trade surplus with the US, but still there.
                          
                      Libya and Iraq definitely involved oil, but I think more as cash for the corporate interests than oil scarcity per se. Afghanistan was largely an afterthought operation, as indicated by the priority given it compared with Iraq by the Bush presidency.
                         
                      Drones are popular because they’re cheap and hard to detect, compared with a B52. That’s why they’re especially useful in precision operations and going across borders – the old “whoops, we accidentally lost contact, fucking microsoft” excuse, with no Francis Gary powers to contradict you.
                       
                      They still used the full spectrum of aircraft. And they still run tanks with jet engines.
                       

      • felix 10.1.2

        It’s always polite to leave a manual in the glove box for the next species who gets to drive your planet.

        Although you’d expect them to know the basics like checking the oil and keeping an eye on the temperature.

  11. Drakula 11

    I love Lucy!!! Good on you, may a thousand fortunes fall on you, you are showing the world what a dangerous and stupid risk these oil companies are prepared to take for the sake of the old retrograde technology and the almighty dollar!!!!

  12. james 111 12

    Would be really great if the ship weighs anchor and steams off with them up the mast all the way to Alaska.
    Then make them fly back at their own cost after slapping them with a very hefty fine for tresspass absolute muppets, not getting the media exposure they want all going a bit pear shape really

    • Galeandra 12.1

      Still looking for some strictly biological satisfaction then, James? A bit of really visceral hate– better than sex, eh?

  13. Gosman 13

    It be interesting to see a list of the laws that people here deem confortable with breaking. I suspect it would fit nicely with their ideological bias. I presume it wouldn’t include tax evasion or people refusing to follow regulations regarding their private property.

    The trouble is if you decide which laws to follow and which to ignore you open yourself up for a world of unintended consequences.

    I have no problem with lawful protests but if you disagree with a law work to get it changed to something you would prefer. That is after all what democracy is all about.

    • McFlock 13.1

      The sound of a tool who’s “just following orders”

    • Pascal's bookie 13.2

      Gossy, civil disobedience is a profoundly democratic act, and one that at heart relies quite precisely on a deep respect for the rule of law.

      the point you seem to miss is that people engaging in civil disobedience are not asking to be able to ‘do whatever they want’. Nor are they saying that ‘the law shouldn’t apply to me’.

      The main thing they doing is saying ‘arrest me, and see how it works out for you, politically speaking’.

      They may or may not be wise in such a request. That goes without saying. But id sdoesn’t change the fact that what they are doing is democratic in nature. they are throwing themselves against the state, and seeing if the demos will stand with, or against, them. You can’t get much more democratic than that.

      ‘Do as you’re told’, isn’t actually a very democratic way of going about protest.

    • fender 13.3

      Yes you are so right Gosman;
      It would be far better to donate large sums of cash to the Nact cause in order to change the laws, how silly are these protesters don’t they know the appropriate RWNJ method of change(?).

  14. I’m not saying it’s a good idea to frig around in the Arctic. I am saying if you are going to enter politics make sure you’re not being pimped out for no real gain.

    http://nowoccupy.blogspot.com/2012/02/strange-men-take-advantage-of-lawless.html

  15. grumpy 15

    I understand the boat is moving now – probably to refuel. Further, that if they stay on the boat after it sails, the offence is piracy.

    She will be arrested and we can only wait to see if the resulting charges are enough to interfere with her immigration status in the US. Might be a career ending protest.

    Well done to the slogan spouting air head.

  16. Bored 16

    Lucy’s presence has been worth the media cover for her cause….now its time to get off the boat and leave.

    In case anybody is unaware that I am decidedly sympathetic with the message of the protesters here is the downside. Lucy will no doubt travel to Auckland across bitumen roads in a petroleum guzzling vehicle which has a few hundred barrels of embedded oil energy contained in its manufacture. And when she makes her next Hollywood movie its off on a petroleum product consuming aeroplane.

    Nice protest but the issue is so much greater than saving the Arctic or a few whales. Its systemic, and whilst awareness gets raised it offers the general public (you and I with our petroleum based lifestyle) nothing but warm fuzzies.

  17. Kevin 17

    Ms Lawless is now the poster girl for Greenpeace and no doubt we will hear more from her in the future.
    The issue which she is campaigning against, oil exploration in the Arctic Circle, has been under way for many years:
    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/08/31/exxon-clinches-arctic-oil-exploration-deal-with-a-russian-government-company
    http://www.industryweek.com/articles/study_urges_canada_to_suspend_arctic_oil_exploration_due_to_disaster_risk_25563.aspx
    Therefore Lucy’s protest is relatively late to the issue.

  18. johnm 18

    Good on Lucy Lawless! Though for a ageing 60s person like me it seems all too late.Whatever happens climate change will process on, I think we need to predict and adapt including voluntary population reduction. However:

    Really great article about these issues for those who can’t be bothered to worry about them too much!Only limited time to consider. Shows the position we are now in as a global civilisation.

    “climate change, Peak energy & resources” by Alice Friedemann

    “Until a miracle happens, scientists and some enlightened policy makers are trying to extend the age of oil, reduce greenhouse gases, and so on. But with the downside of Hubbert’s curve so close, and the financial system liable to crash again soon given the debt and lack of reforms, I don’t know how long anyone can stretch things out.”

    Refer link:http://www.energybulletin.net/stories/2012-02-25/peak-energy-resources-climate-change-and-preservation-knowledge

    “The 1% can’t justify their wealth or the current economic system once the pie stops expanding and starts to shrink. The financial crisis will be a handy way to explain why people are getting poorer on the down side of peak oil too, delaying panic perhaps.
    Other evidence that politicians know how serious the situation is, but aren’t saying anything, are Congressman Roscoe Bartlett’s youtube videos (Urban Danger). He’s the Chairman of the peak oil caucus in the House of Representatives, and he’s saying “get out of dodge” to those in the know. He’s educated all of the representatives in the House, but he says that peak oil “won’t be on their front burner until there’s an oil shock”.

    Fossil fuel age – fossil energy based civilisation – by product: emissions and climate change with temporary exponential growth now at an end plus environmental destruction – hubbert downside = dramatic decline of the previous. Very different World heading our way! Sorry if that’s scary! Really!

  19. Conway Captain 19

    Once again we have the hypocritical attention seeking Z lister star protesting about oil drilling.

    This is a person building a huge mansion in Orakei using cranes, concrete etc, flies around the world making movies that use a lot of natural resources, drives bug flash cars and then prptests about oil drilling.

    Wears synthetic fibres, natural fibres that have been grown using oil based fertilisrers etc and then grand stands.

    • felix 19.1

      I drive a car.

      Does that mean I’m not allowed to complain about the oil industry? What about the motor industry?

      If I drive on roads, am I not allowed to complain about the government?

      Please explain the rules, I’m finding them confusing.

    • fender 19.2

      ey ey captain, cant protest these things if you dont live a stoneage existence.

      get real captain con way

  20. johnm 20

    Climate Change is happening and if we burn the rest of the Oil and Coal Climate Hellish disruption at the least can be expected.

    “Why Britain could face years of freezing winters because of the dramatic decline in Arctic sea ice
    There is less Arctic sea ice now than there has been at any time in the past 1,450 years.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2107255/Why-Britain-face-years-freezing-winters-dramatic-decline-Arctic-sea-ice.html#ixzz1ncRUyouO

    “Imagine the Arctic as a (huge) domestic freezer with the thermostat keeping the freezer well below freezing. Now turn off the power (and probably add warmth from climate change). When frozen solid, the freezer would keep most of it’s cold in a small area……but now, as it warms, very cold water (and air) begins to spread out. In terms of your domestic freezer, there’s now a spreading puddle of melting ice on the floor. Makes sense therefore that the chilling effect will move away from the poles – albeit to a lesser degree as it comes across warmer climates to the south, giving us some quite nasty winters to come.”

    But if we go cold turkey on fossil fuels our ancient sunlight civilisation crumbles back to to an 18c energy diet without the small population of that time. We are darned if we do and darned if we don’t.

    When is the return of a AFewKnowTheTruth going to happen; he’s pretty clued up on all this?

  21. johnm 21

    Again showing Lucy Lawless and Greenpeace are right: Part of the devastation of fossil fueled climate change will be even bigger forest fires :

    “There Will Be Fire: The ‘Carbon Bomb’ ‘Waiting to Be Ignited’
    Scientist: With climate change fires will become more frequent, more intense and harder to stop.”

    refer link: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/02/27-2

    “I am not a religious person, but I do see this as punishment for stupidity and greed. We have dishonored God, which to me is the gift of the life-giving planet earth and the ability of people to act with intelligence and love. Sadly, as always, it is the innocent people and creatures who will suffer the most. To me, the most important thing we can do is to cut down on fossil fuels IMMEDIATELY. That will mean confronting the corporations who are so heavily invested in this and drastically revising what we think we need. I truly do not see any other path for the viability of most life on earth. ”

    To me, the most important thing we can do is to cut down on fossil fuels IMMEDIATELY. That will mean confronting the corporations who are so heavily invested in this and drastically revising what we think we need. I truly do not see any other path for the viability of most life on earth.

    The above is the point of the protest

  22. johnm 22

    Must be all Sci-Fi surely? Climate Change can’t really be that bad ,anyway it hasn’t happened yet.

    “Crossing the line as civilization implodes”

    “Humanity is putting its foot on the accelerator even though the world’s top scientists and governments have repeatedly explained we are headed over a cliff. The people who will suffer the most are people who have not contributed to this impending catastrophe — future generations and the poorest among us.

    This is such a colossally immoral and unethical act — collectively and in many cases individually — that most people, including the overwhelming majority of the so-called intelligentsia, simply choose to ignore it on a daily basis. That won’t save a livable climate, however, nor it will stop future generations from cursing our names.”

    Refer link:http://www.energybulletin.net/stories/2012-02-27/crossing-line-civilization-implodes-heartland-institute-peter-gleick-and-andrew-r

    The issue is a bit more important than a charge of trumped up “Burglary” on an oil derrick.

    “Even the formerly reticent Lonnie Thompson explained why he and other climatologists are speaking out: “Virtually all of us are now convinced that global warming poses a clear and present danger to civilization.” He continues:

    That bold statement may seem like hyperbole, but there is now a very clear pattern in the scientific evidence documenting that the earth is warming, that warming is due largely to human activity, that warming is causing important changes in climate, and that rapid and potentially catastrophic changes in the near future are very possible. This pattern emerges not, as is so often suggested, simply from computer simulations, but from the weight and balance of the empirical evidence as well.”

  23. johnm 23

    James Hansen explains the grave consequences of not tackling Climate Change. To charge Lucy Lawless with burglary is a sign of the incredible petty mindedness even imbecility of our leaders.

    Link: http://www.commondreams.org/video/2012/03/07-0

    Hansen dramatically explains that due to the forcing of increasing co2 levels the Earth is picking up and retaining the energy equivalent of 4000 Hiroshima bombs every day 365 days a year. He also talks of positive feedback loops such as melting tundra and permafrost and ice sheet melt.

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    The State Sector Retirement Savings Scheme has no business investing in companies which manufacture cluster bombs, anti-personnel mines and nuclear weapons, Labour MP and Parliamentarians for Global Action executive member Su’a William Sio says. “I endorse the call made by the ...
    7 hours ago
  • Councils shouldn’t rush into Easter Trading
    City and district councils must ensure they don’t rush into trading on Easter Sunday ahead of local body elections next month, Labour’s Pacific Islands Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio says. “This decision must be taken seriously and only after extensive ...
    7 hours ago
  • Minister can’t wash hands of illegal KiwiSaver investments
    The Minister responsible for appointing default KiwiSaver providers should take responsibility for ensuring they act legally, Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The National Government has now had confirmed what they were told more than a week ago – that ...
    9 hours ago
  • Government railroading Maori Land Bill through
    Maori Development Minister Te Ururoa Flavell seems determined to railroad his Te Ture Whenua Maori Bill through despite the large number of submitters in opposition to the bill, says MP Meka Whaitiri, whose Ikaroa-Rāwhiti electorate contains nearly 30 per cent ...
    1 day ago
  • Government turns a blind eye to struggling sole parents
    Social Development Minister Anne Tolley’s claims that her Government’s work with sole parents is her biggest success are in tatters after a major increase in homelessness amongst that group, says Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Carmel Sepuloni. “Anne Tolley is seriously ...
    1 day ago
  • Time has come for state apology on abuse
    Labour is today calling on the Government to issue an apology for historic abuse in state institutions. Speaking after the launch of Elizabeth Stanley’s book “The Road to Hell; state violence against Children in Post-war New Zealand”, Labour’s Justice spokesperson ...
    1 day ago
  • It’s OK to have a few slaves, just not too many? Minimum wage loophole hasn’t gone away
    New Zealand still needs legislation to ensure adult New Zealanders are not exploited by being taken on as contractors for less than the equivalent of the minimum wage, says Labour list MP David Parker.  “My Minimum Wage (Contractor Remuneration) Amendment ...
    1 day ago
  • Lessons from the Future of Work Commission: Building Wealth from the Ground Up
    Good morning, and thank you for attending today’s Future of Work Seminar here in Wellington. I want to particularly acknowledge Beth Houston who has spent many hours pulling together the programme for today’s event, and to Olivier and the staff ...
    1 day ago
  • Backbencher Matt’s Bill is a Doocey
    The latest National Member’s Bill pulled from the ballot is yet another waste of Parliament’s time and shows the Government’s contempt for the House and the public with much more important issues needing debate, says Labour’s Shadow Leader of the ...
    2 days ago
  • Gun laws creaking under the strain
     Questions have to be asked  after surprising revelations at the Law and Order Select Committee about the police and their ability to manage the gun problem in New Zealand, says Labour’s Police spokesperson Stuart Nash.  “The lack of resources is ...
    2 days ago
  • Most homeless are working poor – Otago Uni
    The finding by Otago University researcher Dr Kate Amore that most homeless people are in work or study is one of the most shocking aspects of the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Social service agencies report many ...
    2 days ago
  • Māori seats entrenched by Tirikatene Bill
    National and the Māori Party need to support my member’s Bill which is designed to entrench the Māori electorate seats in Parliament, Labour’s Te Tai Tonga MP Rino Tirikatene says. “Under the Electoral Act the provisions establishing the general electorates ...
    2 days ago
  • Trade dumping bill could hurt NZ industries
    The Commerce Select Committee is currently hearing submissions on the Trade (Anti-dumping and Countervailing Duties) Amendment Bill. This bill worries me. I flagged some major concerns during its first reading.   I am now reading submissions from NZ Steel, ...
    GreensBy Mojo Mathers
    3 days ago
  • Just 8 per cent of work visas for skills shortages
    Just 16,000 – or 8 per cent – of the 209,000 work visas issued last year were for occupations for which there is an identified skills shortage, says Labour Immigration spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway. “The overwhelming majority of the record number ...
    3 days ago
  • Hard won agreement shouldn’t be thrown away
    The Government should ignore talk across the Tasman about doing away with the labelling of GM free products, says Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King. “Labelling of genetically modified products was a hard won agreement in 2001 by Australian and the ...
    3 days ago
  • National’s privatisation Trojan horse
     The National government is using the need to modernise the school system as a Trojan horse for privatisation and an end to free public education as we know it, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says.  “There is no doubt that ...
    3 days ago
  • Shameless land-banking ads show need for crackdown
    The fact that more than 300 sections are shamelessly being advertised on Trade Me as land-banking opportunities during a housing crisis shows the need for a crackdown on property speculators, Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little says. “Of the 328 ...
    3 days ago
  • Standard and Poor’s warning of housing crisis impact on banks
    The National Government’s failure to address the housing crisis is leading to dire warnings from ratings agency Standard and Poor’s about the impact on the strength of the economy and New Zealand banks, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “Standard ...
    3 days ago
  • Ihumatao needs action not sympathy
    The Petition of Save Our Unique Landscape (SOUL) calling on Parliament to revoke Special Housing Area 62 in order to protect the Ihumatao Peninsula and Stonefields, has fallen on deaf ears, says the Labour MP for Mangere Su’a William Sio.  ...
    3 days ago
  • Student visa fraud & exploitation must stop
    The Government must act immediately to end fraud and exploitation of international students that threatens to damage New Zealand’s reputation, Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little says. ...
    4 days ago
  • Government needs to show leadership in reviewing monetary policy
    The Reserve Bank’s struggles to meet its inflation target, the rising exchange rate and the continued housing crisis shows current monetary policy needs to be reviewed - with amendments to the policy targets agreement a bare minimum, says Labour’s Finance ...
    4 days ago
  • Slash and burn of special education support
    Slashing the support for school age children with special needs is no way to fund earlier intervention, Labour’s Education Spokesperson Chris Hipkins says.  “National’s latest plan to slash funding for children with special needs over the age of 7 in ...
    5 days ago
  • National’s Pasifika MPs must have free vote
      Pacific people will not take kindly to the Government whipping their Pacific MPs to vote in favour of a  Bill that will allow Sunday trading  at Easter, says Labour’s Pacific Island Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “We are seeing ...
    1 week ago
  • Maritime Crimes Bill – balancing security and free speech
    Parliament is currently considering the Maritime Crimes Amendment Bill, which would bring New Zealand up to date with current international rules about maritime security. The debate around the Bill reflects two valid issues: legitimate counter-terrorism measures and the right to ...
    GreensBy Kennedy Graham
    1 week ago
  • Teachers’ low wages at the centre of shortages
      Figures that show teachers’ wages have grown the slowest of all occupations is at the heart of the current teacher shortage, says Labour’s Education Spokesperson Chris Hipkins.  In the latest Labour Cost Index, education professionals saw their wages grow ...
    1 week ago
  • Government’s Tax Law undermines common law principles
    A tax amendment being snuck in under the radar allows changes to tax issues to be driven through by the Government without Parliamentary scrutiny, says Labour’s Revenue spokesman Stuart Nash. “The amendment allows any part of the Tax Administration Act ...
    1 week ago
  • Government slippery about caption funding
      The Government has refused to apologise for taking the credit for funding Olympic Games captioning when the National Foundation for the Deaf  was responsible, says Labour’s spokesperson on Disability Issues Poto Williams.  “This shameful act of grandstanding by Ministers ...
    1 week ago
  • Default KiwiSaver investments should be reviewed
    The investments of the default KiwiSaver providers should be reviewed to make sure they are in line with New Zealanders’ values and expectations, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “Most New Zealanders would be appalled that their KiwiSaver funds are ...
    1 week ago
  • New ministry should look after all children
    The Government has today shunned well founded pleas by experts not to call its new agency the Ministry for Vulnerable Children, Labour’s Spokesperson for Children Jacinda Ardern says.  “Well respected organisations and individuals such as Children's Commissioner Judge Andrew Becroft ...
    1 week ago
  • Ratification okay but we need action
    Today’s decision to ratify the Paris agreement on Climate Change by the end of the year is all well and good but where is the plan, says Labour’s Climate Change spokesperson Megan Woods.  “The Government’s failure to plan is planning ...
    1 week ago
  • Stats changes can’t hide unemployment reality
    Today’s minor drop in unemployment numbers is nothing to celebrate given the changes made to the official numbers that cut thousands of people looking for work out of the jobless rate, says Labour’s Employment spokesperson Grant Robertson. “Making any comparisons ...
    1 week ago
  • Stats changes can’t hide unemployment reality
    Today’s minor drop in unemployment numbers is nothing to celebrate given the changes made to the official numbers that cut thousands of people looking for work out of the jobless rate, says Labour’s Employment spokesperson Grant Robertson. “Making any comparisons ...
    1 week ago
  • Auckland’s affordable homes plummet 72% under National
    Comprehensive new data from CoreLogic has found the number of homes in Auckland valued at under $600,000 has plummeted by 72 per cent since National took office, Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little says. “This data tracks the changes in ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Govt should face the facts not skew the facts
    National appears to be actively massaging official unemployment statistics by changing the measure for joblessness to exclude those looking online, says Labour’s Employment spokesperson Grant Robertson. “The Household Labour Force Survey, released tomorrow, no longer regards people job hunting on ...
    2 weeks ago
  • More voices call for review of immigration policy
    The Auckland Chamber of Commerce is the latest credible voice to call for a review of immigration and skills policy, leaving John Key increasingly isolated, says Opposition Leader Andrew Little. “The Prime Minister is rapidly becoming a man alone. He ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Better balance needed in Intelligence Bill
    Labour will support the NZ Intelligence and Security Bill to select committee so the issues can be debated nationwide and important amendments can be made, says Opposition Leader Andrew Little. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Serco circus has no place in NZ
    A High Court judgment proves National’s private prison agenda has failed and the Serco circus has no place in New Zealand correctional facilities, Labour’s Corrections spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • State house sell-off a kick in the guts for Tauranga’s homeless
    The Government’s sale of 1124 state houses in Tauranga won’t house a single extra homeless person in the city, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Tauranga, like the rest of New Zealand, has a crisis of housing affordability and homelessness. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Axing Auckland’s affordable quota disappointing
    Auckland Council has given away a useful tool for delivering more affordable housing by voting to accept the Independent Hearing Panel’s recommendation to abolish affordable quotas for new developments, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ae Marika! Māori Party Oath Bill fails
    The Māori Party must reconsider its relationship with National after they failed to support Marama Fox’s Treaty of Waitangi Oath bill, Labour’s Maori Development Spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Police Minister all platitudes no detail
    The Police Minister must explain where the budget for new police officers is coming from after continuously obfuscating, Labour’s Police spokesperson Stuart Nash says. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Lost luggage law shows National’s lost the plot
    The Government has proven it can’t address the big issues facing the tourism industry by allowing a Members Bill on lost luggage to be a priority, Labour’s Tourism spokesman Kris Faafoi said. “Nuk Korako’s Bill drawn from the Members’ Ballot ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Hiding behind the law – but can’t say which law
    National is refusing to come clean on what caused the potential trade dispute with China by hiding behind laws and trade rules they can’t even name, says Labour’s Trade and Export Growth spokesperson David Clark. “National admitted today that an ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Work visas issued for jobs workless Kiwis want
    Thousands of work visas for low-skilled jobs were issued by the Government in the past year despite tens of thousands of unemployed Kiwis looking for work in those exact occupations, Labour’s Immigration spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “A comparison of the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Kiwis nationwide now paying for housing crisis
    The Government’s failure to tackle the housing crisis is now affecting the entire country with nationwide house price inflation in the past year hitting 26 per cent, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “None of National’s tinkering or half-baked, piecemeal ...
    2 weeks ago
  • OCR cut piles pressure on Government
    Today’s OCR cut must be backed by Government action on housing and economic growth, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “Reserve Bank Governor Graeme Wheeler’s monetary policy statement underlines the limits of Bill English’s economic management. He says growth is ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Government must explain the McClay delay
    Todd McClay must explain why it took two months for him to properly inform the Prime Minister about China’s potential trade retaliation, says Labour’s Trade and Export Growth spokesperson David Clark. “This may be one of the most serious trade ...
    2 weeks ago
  • OCR cut would be vote of no confidence in economy
    If Reserve Bank Governor Graeme Wheeler cuts the OCR tomorrow it would show that, despite his loudly-voiced concerns about fuelling the housing market, the stuttering economy is now a bigger concern, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “Bill English and ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Leading medical experts back Healthy Homes Bill
    Leading medical experts have today thrown their weight behind my Healthy Homes Guarantee Bill, saying it will improve the health of Kiwi kids, Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little says. “The Bill sets minimum standards for heating, insulation and ventilation ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Minister, it’s time to listen to the Auditor General
    Minister of Health Jonathan Coleman needs to listen to the independent advice of the Auditor General and review the capital charge system imposed on District Health Boards, says Labour’ Health Spokesperson Annette King.  “The capital charge on DHBs has been ...
    2 weeks ago

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