The election campaign, the $6,000 toaster and the media beat up

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1. Pasupial 1

   5 June 2016 at 9:28 am

   Beware of the guys in the locker room!

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV_HxDVP5Io
2. Old Tony 2

   5 June 2016 at 9:29 am

   So how about a deal between the media and the political parties? The media will not go overboard in examining every nook and cranny of Mr/Ms Average Joe’s existence if s/he chooses to get involved in political debate, so long as the parties stop parading their activists/friends of, as if they were said Mr/Ms Average Joe?

   Not saying it happened in this case but certainly happens here. So often in fact that the first response of anyone who takes political debate seriously here is to google any apparently non-partisan person making apparently profound statements from the sidelines, especially when they are anecdotal.

   None of which detracts from the fact that I share with you an intense hatred of the way in which our lives can be shredded by information available in the ether.
   • mickysavage 2.1

     5 June 2016 at 10:23 am

     I agree with a lot of your comment but the suggestion that all political parties engage in this sort of smear attacks I will have to disagree with. The right are way better at this than the left.
     • Pat 2.1.1

       5 June 2016 at 10:47 am

       shouldn’t that read…”the right are way worse at this than the left”?
   • One Anonymous Bloke 2.2

     5 June 2016 at 11:11 am

     Fine words, Old Tony, spoiled only by the rank hypocrisy of voting for the Cameron Slater party then pretending anyone else has sunk so low.

     How about a pact for right wingers to stop lying in support of the indefensible? Fat chance.
3. AsleepWhileWalking 3

   5 June 2016 at 9:49 am

   In what universe will businesses create jobs in preference to automating?

   Duncan did pretty well considering what he was up against.
4. jcuknz 4

   5 June 2016 at 9:53 am

   +1000 micky and tony
   People complain about a lack of ‘investigating journalism’ but this shows it is there when the moneybags want it.
   • Whateva next? 4.1

     5 June 2016 at 3:49 pm

     Aye to that!
   • tc 4.2

     6 June 2016 at 7:53 am

     Ummm no it’s where they don’t want it currently with Duncan getting a fair hearing and abc radio getting stuck into Murdochs lackey about the treatment dished out to Duncan by the rights media dogs.

     Imagine Natasha fuller,charter schools, sheep gate, PM offices budget and behaviour, bridges to nowhere etc getting some national airtime in an objective manner for nz to observe the abhorrent behaviour of this national govt.

     A good example of public media showing the reality with the rights media smearing and diverting. Whereas here it’s all smear and diversion and you can see why Turnbull is tasked with pulling public broadcasting’s teeth by wupert.
5. save nz 5

   5 June 2016 at 10:25 am

   It’s clearly not an equal battle when the state and media can examine for Storarr and Fuller’s personal lives and tax details to attack them, but we have a prime minister that will not release his tax returns to be examined in the same way.

   Balance of power, people. Not in favour of the people.

   But this has happened thoughout history and throughout storytelling throughout history.

   In folklaw the under dog win, even in John Key’s favourite “NZ” book sic, LOTR.

   So maybe in the flash battle of money, power, media, politicians, accountants, lawyers, tax dodgers, super rich and rugby players will actually be defeated by a motley crew of under dogs led and supported by people who believe in something, mentally ill, defeated unslick and slightly divided politicians, the sick, the elderly, the poor, the disenfranchised, the failing farmers, the vilified teachers, the hardworking doctors, the journalists, the artists, the workers on PAYE and in my view an very important group to capture, the homeowners and families.

   It’s those hearts to capture.
6. Anne 6

   5 June 2016 at 10:38 am

   This event causes me so many feelings of deja vu as well as disgust, from the treatment of Natasha Fuller who had her benefit levels publicized by Paula Bennett to the whole Dirty Politics episode.

   Lets never forget the disgusting treatment meted out to David Cunliffe. They trolled through every aspect of his life looking for dirt and unlawful behaviour and all they could find was an eleven year old piece of paper which noted that some chap called Donghua Liu once contacted him over an immigration matter. So, they made up a pack of lies about it and the MSM lapped it up!

   I want to see Labour and the Greens remind the populace of this pattern of behaviour at every appropriate opportunity, and to acquire a copy of last election’s National Party boat advertisement for future purposes.
   • Draco T Bastard 6.1

     5 June 2016 at 1:23 pm

     +1
   • D'Esterre 6.2

     5 June 2016 at 10:49 pm

     “You have to wonder at what stage will the right realise that trickle down does not work…”

     They don’t realise it because they’re not the ones waiting at the bottom for the trickle that never comes.

     Anne: “I want to see Labour and the Greens remind the populace of this pattern of behaviour at every appropriate opportunity, and to acquire a copy of last election’s National Party boat advertisement for future purposes.”

     I want Labour and the Greens to stay above the dirty politics stuff. I want them to refrain from retaliating in kind when the Crosby Textor playbook is used by the government and its apparatchiks. We know what that looks like now; we won’t be fooled.
     • Anne 6.2.1

       6 June 2016 at 9:56 am

       No suggestion of retaliating in kind D’Esterre. But there are plenty of words and deeds committed by members of this government of which “the populace” need to be reminded. Many have shown in the past to have very short memories, so it is up to the Opposition to remind them because one things for sure… the MSM won’t .
7. Olwyn 7

   5 June 2016 at 12:42 pm

   All over the world now people have had a gut full of of the neo-liberal tyranny. Australia has in many (but not all) ways dodged the worst of it, and it would be a tragedy if they voted for the strong version of it that Turnbull is eager to unleash. I very much feel for Duncan Storrar: while he can take no comfort from the Australian’s editorial comment, he can perhaps take some comfort from the fact that he has punctured the urbane, centrist image cultivated by the neo-liberal Turnbull. Turnbull may be able to distance himself from Abbott’s eccentricities, but not so much from O’Dwyer’s smug, heartless comments.
8. Draco T Bastard 8

   5 June 2016 at 1:13 pm

   You have to wonder at what stage will the right realise that trickle down does not work and change their ways.

   That would imply that the RWNJs actually care that anything works when they’re really only interested in making the rich richer.
   • Macro 8.1

     5 June 2016 at 3:44 pm

     ^This
9. adam 9

   5 June 2016 at 1:37 pm

   Love the condescension from the business guy. Entitled much.

   Trickle down clowns.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97b8NUg8wDs
10. whateva next? 10

    5 June 2016 at 3:52 pm

    ” There has to be a better way.”…there is, stop competing and start cooperating, just as Andrew Little has done, at last someone is thinking about the bigger picture, light at the end of a long dark tunnel
    • Draco T Bastard 10.1

      5 June 2016 at 4:40 pm

      +1

      It is through cooperation that we reached the top of the food cycle. Cooperation that allows us to live full and meaningful lives.
11. One Two 11

    5 June 2016 at 4:30 pm

    The shift is gaining momentum

    Not a political shift, but a shift in consciousness and understanding

    The momentun can’t be stopped, it will not be stopped and the establishment is fighting for its very survival. The establishment is losing, and they know it!

    The world is changing for the better because the lies which have had protection in the shadows for so long, are now out in the open with nothing but sunlight for company

    Consciousnes rising on 360 degrees, and its beautiful
12. Wensleydale 12

    5 June 2016 at 5:03 pm

    I don’t know why people are surprised at Duncan’s treatment. This is how the right-wing political/business machine works. If you start calling attention to their dubious activities, you’re initially laughed at and written off as one shrieking lunatic with an axe to grind. However, should you land palpable hits, start garnering attention in the media and begin attracting like-minded souls, they wheel out the big guns. They trawl through your finances, work history, relationship status, driving record and anything else they can access in a concerted attempt to find something with which to discredit you. They’re tenacious and they dig deep. The hope is that by smearing you in shit, they’ll distract everyone from acknowledging the open sewer of incestuous corruption that comprises the relationship between right-wing politics and big business.
    • Whateva next? 12.1

      5 June 2016 at 6:37 pm

      First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.
13. Observer Toke 13

    6 June 2016 at 9:30 am

    The Future of NZ Housing

    The Government has hardly built a house because it is not in their interest to do so.

    If they keep the housing demand high (by not building houses) then a median house in Auckland will cost $2, 000, 000 within a very short time. It’s what they call a Portfolio.

    Asian Immigrants will pay that amount without turning a hair. UK investors will too, because the Pom Pound is over double the value of a Kiwi dollar.

    So a house here priced at $1 million costs a Pom only half of that. A house here priced at $2 million costs less than $1 million to a Pom.

    John Key and Billy English (greed Incorporated) say in plain language whenever they can: “bugger the New Zealanders”. And the Tory Caucus shouts “Here Here” “Here Here” “Bugger our fellow New Zealanders”.

    Wages won’t rise – that’s Tory Policy – Rents will rise massively – that’s Tory Policy.

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