The final field

Written By: - Date published: 8:18 am, October 15th, 2014 - 61 comments
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Well, the list of Labour leadership contenders has defied the predictions of the pundits (myself included). Here’s my 2c on the final field.

First, with all thanks and respect to both David Shearer and David Cunliffe for their service and their time as leaders, I’m glad that neither of them are standing this time. I think in both cases this was the right decision, and I thank them for it. Now we can have a selection with 4 new candidates, a minimum of baggage, and thus every hope of a constructive and positive process which benefits the party. (I appreciate that this view will not be popular with ardent supporters of one or the other, but I dare to suggest that it is more productive to focus on the party and the policies than the personalities – leaders come and go.)

So what of the contenders? In the order that they declared:

Grant Robertson is popular and energetic, a new generation.

Andrew Little has impressive union credentials, well grounded and plain spoken.

David Parker has experience and determination, he is the architect of important Labour policies.

Nanaia Mahuta represents core Labour supporters and values, and the diversity that Labour should celebrate.

It’s a fascinating line-up. While the process gets messy at times, I’m glad to be of the political Left, where we the members get a say in who leads us. I look forward to and expect a positive and engaging selection process that invigorates Labour. While I have my preferences (more of that in another post perhaps) I will support whoever emerges as leader. The choice is pretty clear, Labour either unifies around the new leader, or we can kiss the 2017 election goodbye.

61 comments on “The final field ”

  1. Chooky Shark Smile 1

    I am for Manaia Mahuta

    …she has most Parliamentary experience

    …and she has most pull for the Electorate vote 50+% ….(both women and Maori)

    *she is modest yet solid and dignified

    * she is untainted by the white middle class egotistical and ambitious caucus males’ unseemly backstabbing and rucking for dominance …which has revolted most people on the Left

    • Brutus Iscariot 1.1

      [r0b: deleted at the request of the writer]

      • wekarawshark 1.1.1

        She looks like a Maaari too.

      • karol 1.1.2

        * jaw drops * Never looked like a bloke to me – or do you equate not being (in your eyes) telegenic, with looking like a bloke. Yet a bloke looking like a bloke, seems to be a strong plus for party leadership contenders?

      • Clemgeopin 1.1.3

        Your objection alone makes me determined to give her my first preference, (especially because she is a good, honest and experienced person)

      • boldsirbrian 1.1.4

        .
        @ Brutus Iscariot

        NO.

        I say that firmly, but with respect to what you have said, unfortunately.

        Women do have greater difficulties. Here Nanaia is supposedly being handicapped by not being a “Miss New Zealand”. Earlier discussions seemed to assume that Jacinda Aredern must be a bimbo because she looks too much like a “Miss New Zealand”

        Just get Nanaia in front of a meeting, and I suggest a TV interview, and what she looks like quickly becomes totally irrelevant. She is *good*. Very *good*

        Personally I’ve never had a problem with what I look like, despite never winning a beauty contest. Here is a photo of me:
        boldsirbrian

        Mr. Botany (B.)

        • karol 1.1.4.1

          Earlier discussions seemed to assume that Jacinda Aredern must be a bimbo because she looks too much like a “Miss New Zealand

          I think you may have misinterpreted some comments on that.

          As I recall, it is more that some people are for Ardern as leader purely because of her looks, and that they don’t fully consider her experience, preparedness, and track record.

        • Brutus Iscariot 1.1.4.2

          Looking sharp Brian.

          If my post above looked like trolling, it wasn’t meant to be. She commands a lot of respect and affection amongst supporters, so get that what i said could be found offensive. There was absolutely no racial overtone to my comment.

          This is modern day politics. Image is important, if not often directly confronted. I have seen on this site discussion on the appearance of other politicians – not only from the other side of the house (eg some comments on Robertson). So i’ll stand by the point, but not by the expression of it.

          I’ll leave it at that but request that my original post be deleted.

          • boldsirbrian 1.1.4.2.1

            @ Brutus Iscariot 1.1.4.2

            I did not take your post to be trolling. Which is why I gave respect for what you said. You could have improved the wording of your post, but I saw through that. Because your post could be easily misconstrued, it was wise to delete. But you should not be ashamed for it.

            It is harder to be a successful leader without looking telegenic. That was the “unfortunate” part of my remark. Think of the succession of mediocre US politicians, whose main qualification (appeared to be) that they were telegenic : Bush1, Bush2, Palin. Of course it is possible to look sharp and ALSO be of substance ….Obama. And it is possible to look less sharp and be successful …. but much harder than it was in pre-television era. I’ll refrain from talking about NZ politicians, deliberately 🙂

            Fortunately attractiveness is more than skin deep, even for, and especially, politicians. Qualities of intelligence; empathy, dignity, mana, leadership, and ability to inspire are all far more important.

            Who does this point to overwhelmingly? Nanaia Mahuta.

            Politics Leadership here has had an absence of the sort of dignity that Nanaia will bring, for far too long.

      • les 1.1.5

        I thought it you said it…you must be…Paul Henry!

      • Chooky Shark Smile 1.1.6

        @ Brutus Iscariot ….bullshit “she looks like a bloke” !( that is your male chauvinist racist European bias)

        …my teenage son says she looks like a “Maori Helen Clark” ( and this said positively)

        … in other words a strong and very attractive woman…and a 3x General Election WINNER !…no one wants a nambypamby pretty for a leader , least of all the male working class

        …and my ginger headed son ( a 6th generation Pakeha NZer and more on his Maori side ) looked interested and positive about her appearance …. and he is a blue collar worker who almost voted Labour!…. until Labour did the dirty on Hone

    • AmaKiwi 1.2

      The Labour caucus is dysfunctional, embroiled in personality conflicts. (As Shearer demonstrated yesterday.)

      The person I associate least with the in-fighting and the one I think most likely to bring sanity to the caucus is Nanaia Mahuta. That is why I am inclined to give her my first preference vote.

      For the same reasons, Grant Robertson is securely anchored to the bottom of my preference list.

      • Skinny 1.2.1

        Shearer’s unruly behavior was raised with Annette King earlier today. She apparently told some within the caucus yesterday “I have to lead the fucking party for the next month, and so won’t tolerate any MP’s speaking out like they have.”

        So there you go folks no more utterings from sore losers like Shearer!

        • Colonial Rawshark 1.2.1.1

          Good ol’ Annette King.

          Would be good to know exactly who put Shearer up to his shitty outbursts though. And it might cost Shearer his nomination for 2017.

          • Skinny 1.2.1.1.1

            Shearer is so bitter surely it is time for him to sling his hook. I can see him doing a Shane Jones and taking some plum appointment set up by National. Really annoyed at his smug demeanor yesterday, it’s actually disturbing when I think about it.

            • Karen 1.2.1.1.1.1

              I agree Skinny. He was recently in New York with McCully and is great mates with Hooton. What’s the bet he will leave the Labour Party in a huff having been asked to STFU and be immediately given some overseas post by the Nats?

            • leftie 1.2.1.1.1.2

              @Skinny.

              Yep. Basically said the same thing in a formal complaint that I have laid against David Shearer, either he is in the wrong party, or he that should follow his own advice and go.

          • leftie 1.2.1.1.2

            @Colonial Rawshark.

            Was wondering that myself, the way Shearer was mouthing off, he wasn’t afraid of any reprisals.

            • Colonial Rawshark 1.2.1.1.2.1

              He was not one bit afraid, was he. What does he know that the rest of us don’t.

              Even putting aside another pfffft comment from him disparaging The Standard. Want an arsehole.

              • Leftie

                @Colonial Rawshark.

                That he is, and that’s the burning question isn’t it? what does the fearless arsehole know that we don’t, and who has his back?

                It’s a worry.

        • Clemgeopin 1.2.1.2

          What made me even more angry was Shearer saying that Cunliffe should resign and leave parliament! That is the height of arrogance for Shearer to say such a thing.

          • Leftie 1.2.1.2.1

            @Clemgeopin.

            Not only arrogant, but also incredibly hypocritical,

            Shearer didn’t resign from parliament after Robertson had him rolled, he stuck around to undermine the leadership of David Cunliffe, who had been democratically elected, and literally took an F you stance to the membership, and the affiliates, and the those in caucus who gave Cunliffe their vote.

  2. Dorothy 2

    + 100 Chooky

    • Jenny Kirk 2.1

      Me too, Dorothy and Chooky. No contest …..

      BTW, fascinating that the online Herald this morning is NOT giving her announcement any space. Has the proper paper version put out some detail ? Anyone know ?

      • Karen 2.1.1

        Yes the paper version has a short piece with photo several pages in. Also, your letter was printed Jenny! Well done.

        • karol 2.1.1.1

          It headlines Mahuta being a Cunliffe supporter, and highlights Mahuta’s giving the message that Māori and Pacific people are important for Labour.

      • boldsirbrian 2.1.2

        @ Jenny Kirk

        I suspect that the election suspense will be whether Nanaia wins on the initial vote, or has to wait until second preferences are included

        Mr. Botany (B.)

  3. swordfish 3

    Meanwhile, the MSM and Dirty Politics brigade will no doubt be busy developing future attack lines and fake scandals, with a view to enveloping the new leader in a sense of on-going crisis. Set ’em up, knock ’em down.

    • Colonial Rawshark 3.1

      Of course.

      This is the shear idiocy of the Labour Party caucus in blaming Cunliffe for the defeat. In effect, many MPs have either fallen for the Dirty Politics machine or (more likely) they see this as an opportune time to grab the throne for themselves.

  4. ianmac 4

    No doubt National supporters will be happy with their current leadership. Wonder if some are a little envious of the democracy in the Labour Party? After Mr Key leaves then what?

  5. ianmac 5

    Four good people. Decisions decisions decisions!

  6. Karen 6

    I don’t really get the claim that Grant represents a new generation. He is a year younger than Nanaia, and 6 years younger than Andrew. Even the oldest candidate, David Parker, in only 11 years older which is hardly a generation.

    Yes he is the youngest, but let’s not oversell the idea of him being from a new generation.

    • Not a PS Shark Sashimi 6.1

      Shearer was presented as a “new generation” when he wasa 6 ot 8 years older than Cunliffe!
      Robertson has been in the Parliament building since 1999, two years after leaving Uni. He became an MP in 2008. He cannot be called a fresh face by any means.

      • marg 6.1.1

        Its a good idea to check your facts ‘Not PS Shark etc’ see wiki entry – although there is one mistake in the dates relating to when he left University. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Robertson He actually left University in 1995, was the Vice & then President of the NZ University Student Assoc, 1996/1997. Went to Foreign Affairs and had time in New York representing NZ at United Nations returned to NZ in 2001, worked with Marion Hobbs and then in Helen Clark’s Office. then in 2005 worked for University of Otago Wellington Medical School as Senior Research Marketing Manager until elected in 2008.

  7. mac1 7

    “Leaders come and go”. Too often, in my opinion. Since 2011, Goff, Shearer, Cunliffe and ? Four leaders in three years, Since 2008, Clark, Goff, Shearer. Cunliffe and ? Five leaders in six years.

    I believe your most important point is loyalty to the new leader. Loyalty gives unity and strength. These give stability. The last two were the chief planks of National’s advertising, endlessly hammered home, effective and succinct.

    The most important lesson is for all members of the party including caucus is to “guard our tongues” and remember who it is that we of the left act for and defend- the poor, the afflicted, the homeless.

    They are not served by disloyalty, disunity, weakness and instability.

  8. Ad 8

    1. Unite the caucus and members and affiliates
    2. Appeal to Labour voters and swing voters
    3. Could form a credible alternative government with the Greens and NZFirst
    4. Can beat Key on the campaign

    The above is both sequence and weighting. I’m holding my nose on ideology for now.

    Robertson
    1. Hard to unite caucus and members.
    2. Will have appeal if media framed well
    3. Could form coalition
    4. Reasonable chance against Key

    Mahuta
    1. Limited caucus support.
    2. Appeals to base but no more.
    3. Could form coalition if she can work hard enough
    4. Slow and boring on campaign

    Parker
    1. Struggle to unite.
    2. Broad regional and business appeal
    3. Too dry for easy coalition
    4. Would struggle against Key

    Little
    1. Would unite more of caucus, and certainly members
    2. Would appeal, if heavily media-trained and well framed. If.
    3. Would be strong forming coalition
    4. Would currently struggle against Key

    • les 8.1

      ‘would struggle against Key’…if you think about it, Key is not that flash at debating,obsfucation yes,very good.His lines are written for him and the whole Natz strategy capitalises on his cultivated public persona.’Smile and wave’ is an apt description of his M.O.Lets face it,if there is no unity in the Party ,Labour can hardly unite voters to wake up to Keys brand of Wall St subservience.

    • Colonial Rawshark 8.2

      Basically, Labour has lost its best Leader, all thanks to caucus vetoing Cunliffe out of the race. Now we are choosing from the ranks of Labour MPs who would have made good lieutenants and decent captains.

      Also the Dirty Politics machine is going to begin grinding down whoever takes the leadership. That has to be a factor.

  9. “The choice is pretty clear, Labour either unifies around the new leader, or we can kiss the 2017 election goodbye.”

    Will never happen, so pucker up.

  10. Treetop 10

    I’m for the candidate who can sell the best centre policies, BUT with a left spin.

    When it came to raising the age for NZ super it had a right spin to it, may as well of been a lead ballon.

    CGT in the end it was not going to benefit anyone who owned a rental property so this had a left spin to it, because it was not going to affect many centre left voters.

    Getting the balance right and applying a left SPIN is what Labour need to do.

    • greywarshark 10.1

      What would have been inspired joined-up policy thinking on CGT was – make it as fair as possible then say that money obtained from it would be ring-fenced for offering low-interest loans for new home buyers who had established a savings record for two years with Kiwibank.

      What a multi-pronged fork that would have been for tasty useful policy. That would have resonated with so many. And the savings would have to have been steady, and what could be afforded, mainly to test people’s financial maturity and commitment.

      • Jim 10.1.1

        A Capital Gains Tax would be a best tax neutral for a government but it would more than likely cost the Government more to bring in than it would collect. It currently costs the Australian Government 60% more to collect tax than it does in New Zealand and a big reason for that is CGT (although Oz CGT only applies to short term investors). You can forget ever funding any government program out of a CGT.

        • Barfly 10.1.1.1

          How about a mansion tax ala Scotland? Saw the suggestion on NRT a while back

          • Treetop 10.1.1.1.1

            How about property owners who own 10 – 50 rentals to sell the properties to the government and for the government to add the properties to the housing NZ stock.

            CGT could then be avoided.

            Would the government want to buy a substandard property or to INCREASE the housing stock?

            The government just do not get it that people with babies live in a boarding house, with shared facilities, (scabies and crabs just love boarding house bathrooms and toilet seats). It would not be easy for the (usually) mother to prepare and store food for the baby either. It is reality that there are frightened single parents in a single bedroom living in a noisey boarding house with a baby or young child/ren.

            Each of the three ministers in charge of housing need to go and live for a month like the group I mentioned are living.

      • Treetop 10.1.2

        Talked to someone last night (age 30 – 35) who has purchased their first home in a main NZ city. We agreed that their generation is less likely to obtain a rental property and how hard it is to break even each week (two working adults and two young children).

  11. greywarshark 11

    I gathered up some info from google on Nanaia Mahuta and put it over yonder.
    Here is the link to be going on with. http://thestandard.org.nz/and-then-there-were-four-2/#comment-911516

    • Chooky Shark Smile 11.1

      +100 greywarshark…she is head and shoulders above the male contestants in Electoral appeal ….and she is way ahead in experience in Parliament…what she doesnt know now she will pick up if given a chance

      …the biggest problem as i see it is the male pack of dinosaurs in caucus all fighting it out….all wannabe leaders but none with the X factor

      Labour did well under Helen Clark…well here is a “Maori Helen Clark”!…and she will bring in the Maori vote as well as the woman and working class vote…and she will unite the Left!

      It is a no brainer!…. Nanaia Mahuta has to be leader, or the Labour Party is F….d!

      • DS 11.1.1

        Fingers crossed that the electorate takes to her faster than Helen Clark.

        (Helen Clark’s first term as leader was, shall we say, difficult. Helen in 1995 would have killed for Cunliffe’s poll numbers).

  12. Halcyon 12

    Your last sentence is pivotable Anthony. If Labour can not form a solid unit behind whoever is elected Leader then Labour will be handing National a fourth term in office.

    Even more important than changing Leader is the need to change the culture within caucus.

  13. les 13

    ‘where only loyal party members can vote and they have a habit of choosing candidates who do not appeal to a wider electorate.’………..herein lies the problem…!

    • Halcyon 13.1

      You make a good point les. I would imagine that a large proportion of Labour members and also union members. By allowing the unions a twenty percent of the vote is basically double dipping.

      Surely it would improve Labour’s success with the voters if caucus had 45% of the vote and members has 55% of the vote. That would prevent the current skew towards the unions.

      • Clemgeopin 13.1.1

        Unions represent workers. Labour party was started by workers. The voting system, formula was debated and voted by the members at their party conference.

        If you wish to change the system, go to their party conference, discuss your idea and put your remit across for members to vote on.

  14. paddy 14

    https://www.ipredict.co.nz/app.php?do=browse

    Andrew Little 72% chance of winning.

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    2 days ago
  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #11
    A listing of 35 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, March 10, 2024 thru Sat, March 16, 2024. Story of the week This week we'll give you a little glimpse into how we collect links to share and ...
    2 days ago
  • Out of Touch.
    “I’ve been internalising a really complicated situation in my head.”When they kept telling us we should wait until we get to know him, were they taking the piss? Was it a case of, if you think this is bad, wait till you get to know the real Christopher, after the ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • Bring out your Dad
    Happy fourth anniversary, Pandemic That Upended Bloody Everything. I have been observing it by enjoying my second bout of COVID. It’s 5.30 on Sunday morning and only now are lights turning back on for me.Allow me to copy and paste what I told reader Sara yesterday:Depleted, fogged and crappy. Resting, ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • Bring out your Dad
    Happy fourth anniversary, Pandemic That Upended Bloody Everything. I have been observing it by enjoying my second bout of COVID. It’s 5.30 on Sunday morning and only now are lights turning back on for me.Allow me to copy and paste what I told reader Sara yesterday:Depleted, fogged and crappy. Resting, ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • Bring out your Dad
    Happy fourth anniversary, Pandemic That Upended Bloody Everything. I have been observing it by enjoying my second bout of COVID. It’s 5.30 on Sunday morning and only now are lights turning back on for me.Allow me to copy and paste what I told reader Sara yesterday:Depleted, fogged and crappy. Resting, ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • The bewildering world of Chris Luxon – Guns for all, not no lunch for kids
    .“$10 and a target that bleeds” - Bleeding Targets for Under $10!.Thanks for reading Frankly Speaking ! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.This government appears hell-bent on either scrapping life-saving legislation or reintroducing things that - frustrated critics insist - will be dangerous and likely ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    3 days ago
  • Expert Opinion: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    It hardly strikes me as fair to criticise a government for doing exactly what it said it was going to do. For actually keeping its promises.”THUNDER WAS PLAYING TAG with lightning flashes amongst the distant peaks. Its rolling cadences interrupted by the here-I-come-here-I-go Doppler effect of the occasional passing car. ...
    3 days ago
  • Manufacturing The Truth.
    Subversive & Disruptive Technologies: Just as happened with that other great regulator of the masses, the Medieval Church, the advent of a new and hard-to-control technology – the Internet –  is weakening the ties that bind. Then, and now, those who enjoy a monopoly on the dissemination of lies, cannot and will ...
    3 days ago
  • A Powerful Sensation of Déjà Vu.
    Been Here Before: To find the precedents for what this Coalition Government is proposing, it is necessary to return to the “glory days” of Muldoonism.THE COALITION GOVERNMENT has celebrated its first 100 days in office by checking-off the last of its listed commitments. It remains, however, an angry government. It ...
    3 days ago
  • Can you guess where world attention is focussed (according to Greenpeace)? It’s focussed on an EPA...
    Bob Edlin writes –  And what is the world watching today…? The email newsletter from Associated Press which landed in our mailbox early this morning advised: In the news today: The father of a school shooter has been found guilty of involuntary manslaughter; prosecutors in Trump’s hush-money case ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago
  • Further integrity problems for the Greens in suspending MP Darleen Tana
    Bryce Edwards writes – Is another Green MP on their way out? And are the Greens severely tarnished by another integrity scandal? For the second time in three months, the Green Party has secretly suspended an MP over integrity issues. Mystery is surrounding the party’s decision to ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Jacqui Van Der Kaay: Greens’ transparency missing in action
    For the last few years, the Green Party has been the party that has managed to avoid the plague of multiple scandals that have beleaguered other political parties. It appears that their luck has run out with a second scandal which, unfortunately for them, coincided with Golraz Ghahraman, the focus ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    4 days ago
  • Bernard’s Dawn Chorus with six newsey things at 6:46am for Saturday, March 16
    TL;DR: The six newsey things that stood out to me as of 6:46am on Saturday, March 16.Andy Foster has accidentally allowed a Labour/Green amendment to cut road user chargers for plug-in hybrid vehicles, which the Government might accept; NZ Herald Thomas Coughlan Simeon Brown has rejected a plea from Westport ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • How Did FTX Crash?
    What seemed a booming success a couple of years ago has collapsed into fraud convictions.I looked at the crash of FTX (short for ‘Futures Exchange’) in November 2022 to see whether it would impact on the financial system as a whole. Fortunately there was barely a ripple, probably because it ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    4 days ago
  • Elections in Russia and Ukraine
    Anybody following the situation in Ukraine and Russia would probably have been amused by a recent Tweet on X NATO seems to be putting in an awful lot of effort to influence what is, at least according to them, a sham election in an autocracy.When do the Ukrainians go to ...
    4 days ago
  • Bernard’s six stack of substacks at 6pm on March 15
    TL;DR: Shaun Baker on Wynyard Quarter's transformation. Magdalene Taylor on the problem with smart phones. How private equity are now all over reinsurance. Dylan Cleaver on rugby and CTE. Emily Atkin on ‘Big Meat’ looking like ‘Big Oil’.Bernard’s six-stack of substacks at 6pm on March 15Photo by Jeppe Hove Jensen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • Buzz from the Beehive Finance Minister Nicola Willis had plenty to say when addressing the Auckland Business Chamber on the economic growth that (she tells us) is flagging more than we thought. But the government intends to put new life into it:  We want our country to be a ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago
  • National’s clean car tax advances
    The Transport and Infrastructure Committee has reported back on the Road User Charges (Light Electric RUC Vehicles) Amendment Bill, basicly rubberstamping it. While there was widespread support among submitters for the principle that EV and PHEV drivers should pay their fair share for the roads, they also overwhelmingly disagreed with ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Government funding bailouts
    Peter Dunne writes – This week’s government bailout – the fifth in the last eighteen months – of the financially troubled Ruapehu Alpine Lifts company would have pleased many in the central North Island ski industry. The government’s stated rationale for the $7 million funding was that it ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Two offenders, different treatments.
    See if you can spot the difference. An Iranian born female MP from a progressive party is accused of serial shoplifting. Her name is leaked to the media, which goes into a pack frenzy even before the Police launch an … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    4 days ago
  • Treaty references omitted
    Ele Ludemann writes  – The government is omitting general Treaty references from legislation : The growth of Treaty of Waitangi clauses in legislation caused so much worry that a special oversight group was set up by the last Government in a bid to get greater coherence in the public service on Treaty ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • The Ghahraman Conflict
    What was that judge thinking? Peter Williams writes –  That Golriz Ghahraman and District Court Judge Maria Pecotic were once lawyer colleagues is incontrovertible. There is published evidence that they took at least one case to the Court of Appeal together. There was a report on ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Bernard's Top 10 @ 10 'pick 'n' mix' for March 15
    TL;DR: My top 10 news and analysis links this morning include:Today’s must-read: Climate Scorpion – the sting is in the tail. Introducing planetary solvency. A paper via the University of Exeter’s Institute and Faculty of Actuaries.Local scoop: Kāinga Ora starts pulling out of its Auckland projects and selling land RNZ ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • The day Wellington up-zoned its future
    Wellington’s massively upzoned District Plan adds the opportunity for tens of thousands of new homes not just in the central city (such as these Webb St new builds) but also close to the CBD and public transport links. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Wellington gave itself the chance of ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Weekly Roundup 15-March-2024
    It’s Friday and we’re halfway through March Madness. Here’s some of the things that caught our attention this week. This Week in Greater Auckland On Monday Matt asked how we can get better event trains and an option for grade separating Morningside Dr. On Tuesday Matt looked into ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    5 days ago
  • That Word.
    Something you might not know about me is that I’m quite a stubborn person. No, really. I don’t much care for criticism I think’s unfair or that I disagree with. Few of us do I suppose.Back when I was a drinker I’d sometimes respond defensively, even angrily. There are things ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • The Hoon around the week to March 15
    Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The five things that mattered in Aotearoa’s political economy that we wrote and spoke about via The Kākā and elsewhere for paying subscribers in the last week included:PM Christopher Luxon said the reversal of interest deductibility for landlords was done to help renters, who ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Labour’s policy gap
    It was not so much the Labour Party but really the Chris Hipkins party yesterday at Labour’s caucus retreat in Martinborough. The former Prime Minister was more or less consistent on wealth tax, which he was at best equivocal about, and social insurance, which he was not willing to revisit. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #11 2024
    Open access notables A Glimpse into the Future: The 2023 Ocean Temperature and Sea Ice Extremes in the Context of Longer-Term Climate Change, Kuhlbrodt et al., Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society: In the year 2023, we have seen extraordinary extrema in high sea surface temperature (SST) in the North Atlantic and in ...
    5 days ago
  • Melissa remains mute on media matters but has something to say (at a sporting event) about economic ...
     Buzz from the Beehive   The text reproduced above appears on a page which records all the media statements and speeches posted on the government’s official website by Melissa Lee as Minister of Media and Communications and/or by Jenny Marcroft, her Parliamentary Under-secretary.  It can be quickly analysed ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago
  • The return of Muldoon
    For forty years, Robert Muldoon has been a dirty word in our politics. His style of government was so repulsive and authoritarian that the backlash to it helped set and entrench our constitutional norms. His pig-headedness over forcing through Think Big eventually gave us the RMA, with its participation and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Will the rental tax cut improve life for renters or landlords?
    Bryce Edwards writes –  Is the new government reducing tax on rental properties to benefit landlords or to cut the cost of rents? That’s the big question this week, after Associate Finance Minister David Seymour announced on Sunday that the Government would be reversing the Labour Government’s removal ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • Geoffrey Miller: What Saudi Arabia’s rapid changes mean for New Zealand
    Saudi Arabia is rarely far from the international spotlight. The war in Gaza has brought new scrutiny to Saudi plans to normalise relations with Israel, while the fifth anniversary of the controversial killing of Jamal Khashoggi was marked shortly before the war began on October 7. And as the home ...
    Democracy ProjectBy Geoffrey Miller
    5 days ago
  • Racism’s double standards
    Questions need to be asked on both sides of the world Peter Williams writes –   The NRL Judiciary hands down an eight week suspension to Sydney Roosters forward Spencer Leniu , an Auckland-born Samoan, after he calls Ezra Mam, Sydney-orn but of Aboriginal and Torres Strait ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • It’s not a tax break
    Ele Ludemann writes – Contrary to what many headlines and news stories are saying, residential landlords are not getting a tax break. The government is simply restoring to them the tax deductibility of interest they had until the previous government removed it. There is no logical reason ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • The Plastic Pig Collective and Chris' Imaginary Friends.
    I can't remember when it was goodMoments of happiness in bloomMaybe I just misunderstoodAll of the love we left behindWatching our flashbacks intertwineMemories I will never findIn spite of whatever you becomeForget that reckless thing turned onI think our lives have just begunI think our lives have just begunDoes anyone ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Who is responsible for young offenders?
    Michael Bassett writes – At first reading, a front-page story in the New Zealand Herald on 13 March was bizarre. A group of severely intellectually limited teenagers, with little understanding of the law, have been pleading to the Justice Select Committee not to pass a bill dealing with ram ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on National’s fantasy trip to La La Landlord Land
    How much political capital is Christopher Luxon willing to burn through in order to deliver his $2.9 billion gift to landlords? Evidently, Luxon is: (a) unable to cost the policy accurately. As Anna Burns-Francis pointed out to him on Breakfast TV, the original ”rock solid” $2.1 billion cost he was ...
    6 days ago
  • Bernard's Top 10 @ 10 'pick 'n' mix' for March 14
    TL;DR: My top 10 news and analysis links this morning include:Today’s must-read: Jonathon Porritt calling bullshit in his own blog post on mainstream climate science as ‘The New Denialism’.Local scoop: The Wellington City Council’s list of proposed changes to the IHP recommendations to be debated later today was leaked this ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • No, Prime Minister, rents don’t rise or fall with landlords’ costs
    TL;DR: Prime Minister Christopher Luxon said yesterday tenants should be grateful for the reinstatement of interest deductibility because landlords would pass on their lower tax costs in the form of lower rents. That would be true if landlords were regulated monopolies such as Transpower or Auckland Airport1, but they’re not, ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Cartoons: ‘At least I didn’t make things awkward’
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Tom Toro Tom Toro is a cartoonist and author. He has published over 200 cartoons in The New Yorker since 2010. His cartoons appear in Playboy, the Paris Review, the New York Times, American Bystander, and elsewhere. Related: What 10 EV lovers ...
    6 days ago
  • Solving traffic congestion with Richard Prebble
    The business section of the NZ Herald is full of opinion. Among the more opinionated of all is the ex-Minister of Transport, ex-Minister of Railways, ex MP for Auckland Central (1975-93, Labour), Wellington Central (1996-99, ACT, then list-2005), ex-leader of the ACT Party, uncle to actor Antonia, the veritable granddaddy ...
    Greater AucklandBy Patrick Reynolds
    6 days ago
  • I Think I'm Done Flying Boeing
    Hi,Just quickly — I’m blown away by the stories you’ve shared with me over the last week since I put out the ‘Gary’ podcast, where I told you about the time my friend’s flatmate killed the neighbour.And you keep telling me stories — in the comments section, and in my ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    6 days ago
  • Invoking Aristotle: Of Rings of Power, Stones, and Ships
    The first season of Rings of Power was not awful. It was thoroughly underwhelming, yes, and left a lingering sense of disappointment, but it was more expensive mediocrity than catastrophe. I wrote at length about the series as it came out (see the Review section of the blog, and go ...
    6 days ago
  • Van Velden brings free-market approach to changing labour laws – but her colleagues stick to distr...
    Buzz from the Beehive Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden told Auckland Business Chamber members they were the first audience to hear her priorities as a minister in a government committed to cutting red tape and regulations. She brandished her liberalising credentials, saying Flexible labour markets are the ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago
  • Why Newshub failed
    Chris Trotter writes – TO UNDERSTAND WHY NEWSHUB FAILED, it is necessary to understand how TVNZ changed. Up until 1989, the state broadcaster had been funded by a broadcasting licence fee, collected from every citizen in possession of a television set, supplemented by a relatively modest (compared ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • Māori Party on the warpath against landlords and seabed miners – let’s see if mystical creature...
    Bob Edlin writes  –  The Māori Party has been busy issuing a mix of warnings and threats as its expresses its opposition to interest deductibility for landlords and the plans of seabed miners. It remains to be seen whether they  follow the example of indigenous litigants in Australia, ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago

  • Government moves to quickly ratify the NZ-EU FTA
    "The Government is moving quickly to realise an additional $46 million in tariff savings in the EU market this season for Kiwi exporters,” Minister for Trade and Agriculture, Todd McClay says. Parliament is set, this week, to complete the final legislative processes required to bring the New Zealand – European ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 hours ago
  • Positive progress for social worker workforce
    New Zealand’s social workers are qualified, experienced, and more representative of the communities they serve, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “I want to acknowledge and applaud New Zealand’s social workers for the hard work they do, providing invaluable support for our most vulnerable. “To coincide with World ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago
  • Minister confirms reduced RUC rate for PHEVs
    Cabinet has agreed to a reduced road user charge (RUC) rate for plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs), Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. Owners of PHEVs will be eligible for a reduced rate of $38 per 1,000km once all light electric vehicles (EVs) move into the RUC system from 1 April.  ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago
  • Trade access to overseas markets creates jobs
    Minister of Agriculture and Trade, Todd McClay, says that today’s opening of Riverland Foods manufacturing plant in Christchurch is a great example of how trade access to overseas markets creates jobs in New Zealand.  Speaking at the official opening of this state-of-the-art pet food factory the Minister noted that exports ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago
  • NZ and Chinese Foreign Ministers hold official talks
    Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters met with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Wellington today. “It was a pleasure to host Foreign Minister Wang Yi during his first official visit to New Zealand since 2017. Our discussions were wide-ranging and enabled engagement on many facets of New Zealand’s relationship with China, including trade, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Kāinga Ora instructed to end Sustaining Tenancies
    Kāinga Ora – Homes & Communities has been instructed to end the Sustaining Tenancies Framework and take stronger measures against persistent antisocial behaviour by tenants, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Earlier today Finance Minister Nicola Willis and I sent an interim Letter of Expectations to the Board of Kāinga Ora. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Speech to Auckland Business Chamber: Growth is the answer
    Tēna koutou katoa. Greetings everyone. Thank you to the Auckland Chamber of Commerce and the Honourable Simon Bridges for hosting this address today. I acknowledge the business leaders in this room, the leaders and governors, the employers, the entrepreneurs, the investors, and the wealth creators. The coalition Government shares your ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Singapore rounds out regional trip
    Minister Winston Peters completed the final leg of his visit to South and South East Asia in Singapore today, where he focused on enhancing one of New Zealand’s indispensable strategic partnerships.      “Singapore is our most important defence partner in South East Asia, our fourth-largest trading partner and a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Minister van Velden represents New Zealand at International Democracy Summit
    Minister of Internal Affairs and Workplace Relations and Safety, Hon. Brooke van Velden, will travel to the Republic of Korea to represent New Zealand at the Third Summit for Democracy on 18 March. The summit, hosted by the Republic of Korea, was first convened by the United States in 2021, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Insurance Council of NZ Speech, 7 March 2024, Auckland
    ICNZ Speech 7 March 2024, Auckland  Acknowledgements and opening  Mōrena, ngā mihi nui. Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Nor Whanganui aho.  Good morning, it’s a privilege to be here to open the ICNZ annual conference, thank you to Mark for the Mihi Whakatau  My thanks to Tim Grafton for inviting me ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Five-year anniversary of Christchurch terror attacks
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Lead Coordination Minister Judith Collins have expressed their deepest sympathy on the five-year anniversary of the Christchurch terror attacks. “March 15, 2019, was a day when families, communities and the country came together both in sorrow and solidarity,” Mr Luxon says.  “Today we pay our respects to the 51 shuhada ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Speech for Financial Advice NZ Conference 5 March 2024
    Speech for Financial Advice NZ Conference 5 March 2024  Acknowledgements and opening  Morena, Nga Mihi Nui.  Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Nor Whanganui aho. Thanks Nate for your Mihi Whakatau  Good morning. It’s a pleasure to formally open your conference this morning. What a lovely day in Wellington, What a great ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Early visit to Indonesia strengthens ties
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters held discussions in Jakarta today about the future of relations between New Zealand and South East Asia’s most populous country.   “We are in Jakarta so early in our new government’s term to reflect the huge importance we place on our relationship with Indonesia and South ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • China Foreign Minister to visit
    Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters has announced that the Foreign Minister of China, Wang Yi, will visit New Zealand next week.  “We look forward to re-engaging with Foreign Minister Wang Yi and discussing the full breadth of the bilateral relationship, which is one of New Zealand’s ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Minister opens new Auckland Rail Operations Centre
    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has today opened the new Auckland Rail Operations Centre, which will bring together KiwiRail, Auckland Transport, and Auckland One Rail to improve service reliability for Aucklanders. “The recent train disruptions in Auckland have highlighted how important it is KiwiRail and Auckland’s rail agencies work together to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Celebrating 10 years of Crankworx Rotorua
    The Government is proud to support the 10th edition of Crankworx Rotorua as the Crankworx World Tour returns to Rotorua from 16-24 March 2024, says Minister for Economic Development Melissa Lee.  “Over the past 10 years as Crankworx Rotorua has grown, so too have the economic and social benefits that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government delivering on tax commitments
    Legislation implementing coalition Government tax commitments and addressing long-standing tax anomalies will be progressed in Parliament next week, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The legislation is contained in an Amendment Paper to the Taxation (Annual Rates for 2023–24, Multinational Tax, and Remedial Matters) Bill issued today.  “The Amendment Paper represents ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Significant Natural Areas requirement to be suspended
    Associate Environment Minister Andrew Hoggard has today announced that the Government has agreed to suspend the requirement for councils to comply with the Significant Natural Areas (SNA) provisions of the National Policy Statement for Indigenous Biodiversity for three years, while it replaces the Resource Management Act (RMA).“As it stands, SNAs ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government classifies drought conditions in Top of the South as medium-scale adverse event
    Agriculture Minister Todd McClay has classified the drought conditions in the Marlborough, Tasman, and Nelson districts as a medium-scale adverse event, acknowledging the challenging conditions facing farmers and growers in the district. “Parts of Marlborough, Tasman, and Nelson districts are in the grip of an intense dry spell. I know ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government partnership to tackle $332m facial eczema problem
    The Government is helping farmers eradicate the significant impact of facial eczema (FE) in pastoral animals, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced.  “A $20 million partnership jointly funded by Beef + Lamb NZ, the Government, and the primary sector will save farmers an estimated NZD$332 million per year, and aims to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • NZ, India chart path to enhanced relationship
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has completed a successful visit to India, saying it was an important step in taking the relationship between the two countries to the next level.   “We have laid a strong foundation for the Coalition Government’s priority of enhancing New Zealand-India relations to generate significant future benefit for both countries,” says Mr Peters, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Ruapehu Alpine Lifts bailout the last, say Ministers
    Cabinet has agreed to provide $7 million to ensure the 2024 ski season can go ahead on the Whakapapa ski field in the central North Island but has told the operator Ruapehu Alpine Lifts it is the last financial support it will receive from taxpayers. Cabinet also agreed to provide ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Govt takes action to drive better cancer services
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says the launch of a new mobile breast screening unit in Counties Manukau reinforces the coalition Government’s commitment to drive better cancer services for all New Zealanders. Speaking at the launch of the new mobile clinic, Dr Reti says it’s a great example of taking ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Govt takes action to drive better cancer services
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says the launch of a new mobile breast screening unit in Counties Manukau reinforces the coalition Government’s commitment to drive better cancer services for all New Zealanders. Speaking at the launch of the new mobile clinic, Dr Reti says it’s a great example of taking ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Work begins on SH29 upgrades near Tauriko
    Unlocking economic growth and land for housing are critical elements of the Government’s plan for our transport network, and planned upgrades to State Highway 29 (SH29) near Tauriko will deliver strongly on those priorities, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “The SH29 upgrades near Tauriko will improve safety at the intersections ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Work begins on SH29 upgrades near Tauriko
    Unlocking economic growth and land for housing are critical elements of the Government’s plan for our transport network, and planned upgrades to State Highway 29 (SH29) near Tauriko will deliver strongly on those priorities, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “The SH29 upgrades near Tauriko will improve safety at the intersections ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Fresh produce price drop welcome
    Lower fruit and vegetable prices are welcome news for New Zealanders who have been doing it tough at the supermarket, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. Stats NZ reported today the price of fruit and vegetables has dropped 9.3 percent in the 12 months to February 2024.  “Lower fruit and vege ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Statement to the 68th United Nations Commission on the Status of Women
    Tēnā koutou katoa and greetings to you all.  Chair, I am honoured to address the sixty-eighth session of the Commission on the Status of Women. I acknowledge the many crises impacting the rights of women and girls. Heightened global tensions, war, climate related and humanitarian disasters, and price inflation all ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Speech to the 68th United Nations Commission on the Status of Women (CSW68)
    Tēnā koutou katoa and greetings to you all.  Chair, I am honoured to address the 68th session of the Commission on the Status of Women. I acknowledge the many crises impacting the rights of women and girls. Heightened global tensions, war, climate related and humanitarian disasters, and price inflation all ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Government backs rural led catchment projects
    The coalition Government is supporting farmers to enhance land management practices by investing $3.3 million in locally led catchment groups, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced. “Farmers and growers deliver significant prosperity for New Zealand and it’s vital their ongoing efforts to improve land management practices and water quality are supported,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Speech to Auckland Business Chamber
    Good evening everyone and thank you for that lovely introduction.   Thank you also to the Honourable Simon Bridges for the invitation to address your members. Since being sworn in, this coalition Government has hit the ground running with our 100-day plan, delivering the changes that New Zealanders expect of us. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Commission’s advice on ETS settings tabled
    Recommendations from the Climate Change Commission for New Zealand on the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) auction and unit limit settings for the next five years have been tabled in Parliament, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. “The Commission provides advice on the ETS annually. This is the third time the ...
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  • Government lowering building costs
    The coalition Government is beginning its fight to lower building costs and reduce red tape by exempting minor building work from paying the building levy, says Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk. “Currently, any building project worth $20,444 including GST or more is subject to the building levy which is ...
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  • Trustee tax change welcomed
    Proposed changes to tax legislation to prevent the over-taxation of low-earning trusts are welcome, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The changes have been recommended by Parliament’s Finance and Expenditure Committee following consideration of submissions on the Taxation (Annual Rates for 2023–24, Multinational Tax, and Remedial Matters) Bill. “One of the ...
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  • Minister’s Ramadan message
    Assalaamu alaikum. السَّلَام عليكم In light of the holy month of Ramadan, I want to extend my warmest wishes to our Muslim community in New Zealand. Ramadan is a time for spiritual reflection, renewed devotion, perseverance, generosity, and forgiveness.  It’s a time to strengthen our bonds and appreciate the diversity ...
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  • Minister appoints new NZTA Chair
    Former Transport Minister and CEO of the Auckland Business Chamber Hon Simon Bridges has been appointed as the new Board Chair of the New Zealand Transport Agency (NZTA) for a three-year term, Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced today. “Simon brings extensive experience and knowledge in transport policy and governance to the role. He will ...
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  • Speech to Life Sciences Summit
    Good morning all, it is a pleasure to be here as Minister of Science, Innovation and Technology.  It is fantastic to see how connected and collaborative the life science and biotechnology industry is here in New Zealand. I would like to thank BioTechNZ and NZTech for the invitation to address ...
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  • Progress continues apace on water storage
    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says he is looking forward to the day when three key water projects in Northland are up and running, unlocking the full potential of land in the region. Mr Jones attended a community event at the site of the Otawere reservoir near Kerikeri on Friday. ...
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  • Government agrees to restore interest deductions
    Associate Finance Minister David Seymour has today announced that the Government has agreed to restore deductibility for mortgage interest on residential investment properties. “Help is on the way for landlords and renters alike. The Government’s restoration of interest deductibility will ease pressure on rents and simplify the tax code,” says ...
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  • Minister to attend World Anti-Doping Agency Symposium
    Sport and Recreation Minister Chris Bishop will travel to Switzerland today to attend an Executive Committee meeting and Symposium of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA). Mr Bishop will then travel on to London where he will attend a series of meetings in his capacity as Infrastructure Minister. “New Zealanders believe ...
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