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By: Colin James on Labour 2010 « The Standard

Colin James on Labour 2010 « The Standard — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:46:25 +0000

[...] provides some useful thinking on the challenges ahead, as well as reflections on last weeks speech from Goff. He finishes off with this comment directed to the new intake of MPs: Will Labour in the next five [...]

By: Kiwipolitico » Blog Archive » Great prospects

Kiwipolitico » Blog Archive » Great prospects — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:15:31 +0000

[...] January 29th, 2010 by Lew Hat tipped to Paul McBeth for this one. As one side engages in some tentative but hugely premature triumphalism, and the other side points the accusatory finger, a sleeping [...]

By: Lew

Lew — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:42:43 +0000

Mehrabian reckoned the words were worth 7%, with tone and physical expression making up the remainder. As much has been made of Obama’s smiling and light-hearted demeanour during the SOTU as of its contents.

So while I’m prepared to concede that I might be a bit down on Goff’s speech having only read the words on a screen, I’m going to need some additional evidence before I accept that this was a real old-fashioned barnstormer.

By: felix

felix — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:36:10 +0000

Yeah, and the words on the page are only half of the story anyway.

I too would like to hear or see it to get, you know, the vibe.

By: Lew

Lew — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:31:10 +0000

Did you record it, perchance? Or did anyone else? Otherwise all anyone gets from it is what was posted on the website, which in my view was far from inspiring.

And the coverage, which is fixated on senior public servants.

And the bloggery, which is equal parts self-delusion and partisan hackery.

By: the pinkpostman

the pinkpostman — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:08:40 +0000

Who the hell is Helengrand never heard of her .Is it some Right -Wing Amazone from a Wagnerian type opera?
I think she may be some figment of the vivid imagination of peterquoxte . it sure beats me Ive looked on every source on information availabe to me (even Google) and not one has told me who Helengrand is.

By: the pinkpostman

the pinkpostman — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:55:05 +0000

I was in attendance at the Hamilton speech. I was not only impressed but believe this was just what the average voter was hoping to hear.
The problem is having it reported correctly by the Right-Wing press.
I urge all Labour party members to inform people what a good speech this was and that this is the start of Labour’s come back.

I say well done Phill ! I attended just hoping ,I came away feeling the best I have since the last election . With this speech Labour is back. No wonder Key tried to rubish it without even hearing it .

By: J Mex

J Mex — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:13:31 +0000

DPF responds:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html

By: WAKE UP

WAKE UP — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:01:58 +0000

If course, the civil service salary blowout (nice of Goff to be so concerned about John Key’s comparative pittance) has just now happened overnight, only since Labour’s nine looooong years ended. Talk about clutching at straws.

By: felix

felix — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:10:08 +0000

Hi hs!

By: trolling

trolling — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:17:01 +0000

Don't you know that whatever comes out of politicians mouths this is what 90% of the public hear.

By: ParkDrive

ParkDrive — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:07:26 +0000

Goff should have talked about giving total remuneration to MP’s and doing away with all expenses. Everything involved with being an MP comes out of a total remuneration.

PM would then be on around 500 – 700K p/a – which would have to cover travel, accomodation costs etc. Taxpayers then know exactly how much is being paid to each parliamentarian.

MP’s to lose entitlements if they leave Parliament.

Much better chord to strike with the public.

By: luva

luva — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:13:23 +0000

I want it lifted to $14.23.

I dont want it lifted to $15

Given the options available, a lift to $15 was the closest option to what I wanted.

Do you still think 61% support a lift $15 or are you starting to understand how it was a very silly poll.

By: Marty G

Marty G — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:33:07 +0000

saw it on both channels mike. Maybe you should cut down on the after-work bourbons, you’re starting to miss stuff.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:26:39 +0000

So all the news tonight is drug labelling, XT network, dog kiillng, and tennis poor old Phil has no cut throgh on his ‘ground breaking’ speech