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The puppet party, the Mega party and the pro assault party

Written By: - Date published: 9:30 am, January 12th, 2014 - 201 comments
Categories: act, conservative party, john key, national, rodney hide, same old national, Steven Joyce - Tags:

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There are three interesting stories in the media this morning each of which have implications for this year’s election.

Firstly the SST is reporting that there will be a push to put the anti smacking law (or as I prefer to call it the anti child brutalising law) back on the political agenda this year. Apparently there is a groundswell of opposition to the thousands of ordinary kiwi parents being imprisoned for delivering the lightest of physical admonishments to their children. There is also the reality that the law change is causing a positive attitudinal change and that the number of prosecutions are very small and the punishments are light but since when has reality got in the way of conservative belligerence? If only these people were as upset about child poverty …

The second story is about how the real chief of the ACT party, Steven Joyce, visited Rodney Hide to see if he would stand again for the Epsom seat. Rodney has stated that he will not stand. This particular piece of news shows beyond doubt that ACT is a puppet party controlled by National. New Zealand they are twisting electoral rules to gain an unfair advantage.

The third story may be the most significant, Kim Dotcom is said to be planning the launch of his own political party this month. I have mixed views about this. Although it would be very pleasing to see Dotcom confront John Key on the campaign trail, and although I find it hard to believe that someone as interested in meeting local famous people as Dotcom would not have met Key before the raid on Dotcom’s house, I am afraid that he may maroon some protest votes in a party that will not make the threshold and perversely may help National. And although I am sure that his policies on freedom would be sound I am not so sure that his business policies would provide the necessary oversight required. After all he is a German entrepreneur with a dislike of any sorts of restrictions.

It is shaping up to being an interesting year …

201 comments on “The puppet party, the Mega party and the pro assault party”

  1. RedBaronCV 1

    The kiddie bashers want to ride again. What a policy plank?! Hitting people smaller than yourself. Most police involvement has been when concerned bystanders have reported the matter..

    • Murray Olsen 1.1

      The police have always been quite adept at hitting people smaller than themselves. They could set an example and start treating our kids decently themselves.

  2. RedBaronCV 2

    BTW – there are billboards up for the conservatives around Wellington already. Does this eat into election spending limits or should Labour, the Greens, Mana etc do this piece of brand awareness(awful term) as well.

    • Paul 2.1

      Interesting that the Dominion Post chose to make this news.
      Only CC and his nut bar party would benefit from this being an election issue.
      Are there connections between the powers that be and the editors there?
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9600491/Smacking-debate-back-in-the-limelight

      • Murray Olsen 2.1.1

        Great that Colin Craig can paint his supporters as people who break the law in private and Key still wants a coalition with him, but I suppose it’s no different from ACT. The number of their MPs that broke laws and behaved unethically was pretty high.

    • lprent 2.2

      Because of the self-serving changes that National put into the replacement Electoral Finance Act back in 2009, they are not.

      The electoral period that political parties have to disclose their expenditure for is limited to something strange and miniscule like 90 days from an election.

      Of course as you have observed, our actual electoral period since about 1999 has in reality been something like 12 months. These days National’s sockpuppet parties tend to awaken just before xmas and campaign for the whole year.

      For that matter so do the major parties according to their budgets. For instance with National trying to talk up the economy. The Greens and Labour tend to be more constrained.

  3. Craig Y 3

    I move that we should label such fundamentalist enthusiasts for corporal punishment ‘sado-maso-Christians!’

  4. Anne 4

    From the linked article:

    Where the government is supposed to serve us the people, we are paying with our taxes that they do a good job for us. But look what they do, they undermine our rights, they destroy our freedoms, they censor our internet, so we are the ones who have to bring that change,” Dotcom said in a documentary by international magazine Vice, released last week.

    “That is why I get involved in politics because I am f . . .ing tired of this nonsense and someone has to stand up and change this,” he said.

    You can’t blame Kim Dotcom for feeling this way, but where does he stand on the NZ political spectrum? Some say he’s Libertarian. Maybe. Bryce Edwards claims he isn’t likely to support the Labour/Green parties. Why? It’s Labour and the Greens who have consistently called out the government on the nonsense he’s so f….ing tired of. He’s stood on various platforms with them over the self-same issues. I’m not suggesting he will openly support them, but he may well be prepared to come to a pre-election arrangement with them. After all, he has a much better chance of getting the changes he wants to see under a centre-left coalition government.

    • Colonial Viper 4.1

      New Max Keiser interview with Dotcom; from 12 minutes in.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1bDMfRfsrw

      He’s not keen on the way big corporations and US politicians work together. His views on internet freedom are very necessary to push back against totalitarian govt surveillance – and he has the team and the resources to actually do something about it.

    • veutoviper 4.2

      It will be interesting to see the details of the Dotcom (political) party, but it seems we only have another week to wait. Presumably he will unveil some detail at his big party in Auckland on Jan 20 – his birthday and the anniversary of the raid.

      In a tweet this morning he said ” My party will activate non-voters, youth and the internet electorate. We are going to make politics exciting, More on January 20th.” And in another tweet this morning “Get ready for low blows and smears against me and my political party. My attackers are worried. They should be. We will get more than 5%.”

      Re Bryce Edwards’ claims that KDC isn’t likely to support the Labour/Green parties, I agree with your comments. In fact, KDC has had some complimentary things to say in tweets over the last year on Cunliffe and has retweeted a number of his speechs. While KDC may have become mega rich, his childhood does not appear to have been a wealthy one, so he may not be as blind to things like child poverty etc as some may think.

      • veutoviper 4.2.1

        Since submitting the above comment, I have re-watched the video of the GCSB Public meeting on Aug 19, 2013, which Molly linked to in her comment on OM earlier this morning http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-12012014/#comment-756198

        It was well worthwhile seeing it again (thanks Molly) and watching KDC’s very positive reaction to Russel Norman’s speech – particularly KDC’s actions at the end of the speech.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9IdfvurCtk#t=4395

        So,IMO there may well be cooperation/support from KDC and his party to the Labour/Green parties.

        • Colonial Viper 4.2.1.1

          Dotcom is not going to be left wing in the classic sense of the term. But he will fight hard against govt/corporate locking down of innovation, use of patents and copyright as tools of rentier capitalism, fascist law enforcement actions against weak players on behalf of major corporate interests, totalitarian surveillance and control of the internet, etc.

          • veutoviper 4.2.1.1.1

            Agreed, CV. That will be his focus, and thanks for the link to the Max Keiser interview which I have just watched. Was well worthwhile – even if it meant me again procrastinating about going out and mowing the lawns (more like a paddock at present!)

            But if KDC can work alongside Labour and the Greens etc, that would be good. While he donated to Banks, I wonder whether that was more of a personal ‘friend’ thing at the time, rather than ideological support. I certainly don’t see him ‘getting into bed’ with National any time in the near future!

            • Colonial Viper 4.2.1.1.1.1

              That will be his focus, and thanks for the link to the Max Keiser interview which I have just watched.

              I think everyone should have a “work bed” like Kim Dotcom did the interview from…

    • weka 4.3

      I don’t see KDC as being on the political left. He wants freedom but I don’t see any ethics around fairness or looking after everyone. The man donated money to John Banks, just saying.

      He could split votes in some electorates. He’s likely to pick up votes that would otherwise go to the GP or even Labour (including some of the previous non-vote). Might do the same to ACT of course and National. But if he becomes kingmaker, is there not the possibility that he would go with National if he got what he wanted re IT, privacy and security?

      Micky,

      “I am afraid that he may maroon some protest votes in a party that will not make the threshold and perversely may help National.”

      I can never remember how that works. Don’t the votes of under the threshold parties get redistributed somehow?

      • Bearded Git 4.3.1

        No the votes under the 5% threshold are totally wasted votes unless the party gets an electorate MP.

        • Craig Y 4.3.1.1

          Or unless you vote for the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party, thereby sabotaging the electoral status of the Greens and you’re a single-issue purist pothead. Oops-wrong form of ‘absolutely wasted.’

          • phillip ure 4.3.1.1.1

            alcp give every appearance of being an election scam..

            ..they stick their hand out for some of that lovely election-money..

            ..they splash that around..

            ..canniblise a few green votes..

            ..and then they disappear for another three years..

            ..you never hear a peep from them between elections..

            ..as useless as a wet box of matches during a lighter-crisis..

            ..as far as fighting to end prohibition..

            ..that lot..

            ..should be called the aotearoa loot cash party..

            ..phillip ure..

      • fisiani 4.3.2

        Yes the votes do get redistibuted to the parties who do meet the threshold. A Mega party getting 4% of the vote would give National approximately 47% of 4% ie 1.9% taking them effectively to 48.9%

    • Murray Olsen 4.4

      I have never seen anything from Bryce Edwards that I felt should be taken seriously. He really gives the impression he has no idea what he’s talking about and is not much more than a stamp collector.

      • Paul 4.4.1

        Edwards is a careerist who says what he needs to to rise the greasy pole.
        His Herald review is exactly that …stamp collecting.
        Phil Ure’s reviews are way better!

  5. Sabine Ford 5

    it is in the conservative mindset that the man is head of the house and that wife and children should be submissive. It is the fathers right to control both, wife and children, and sometimes smacking is obviously the only way to enforce obedience….this is not new.
    Why would anyone think that the NZ conservative mindset is in anyway different. Next on the agenda, abortion, birth control etc. See the Tea Party in the States.

    As for being a german entrepreneur….worse things could happen, and as for regulations, business, really any business does not like regulations. What do you think the TPP is all about. Surely not about creating jobs that pay more then the minimum wage.

    However, I would like to know what Labour is going to roll out for the election? How will labour tackle unemployment, under employment, low wages that need to be subsidized by welfare, affordable and healthy housing (rental and ownership), crumbling infrastructure?

    If we want peeps to vote for Labour, Labour will need to at least address the issues that most peeps affect, not just point finger.

    I will vote for the greens, and only if I fear that national will kick in again, will I hold my nose and vote Labour. And this is quite sad.

    • QoT 5.1

      I don’t know how openly the Conservatives would attack abortion/birth control, just because right now we have a very restrictive abortion regime – one which a hell of a lot of people disagree with but don’t want to rock the boat over. In my experience, when you inform people about the current situation in NZ, they’re firstly shocked that abortion isn’t actually legal, and secondly agree that it should be liberalised, if only a little.

      On the other hand, I wouldn’t have thought raising the disciplining-your-kids-through-physical-violence issue would be a winner, either. It’s not like there are any good stories to point to and say “look, this Good Hardworking Father was sent to prison For Ten Years for one light smack!” to rally the pro-smackers around.

      • Brett Dale 5.1.1

        QOT:

        The conservative party will be the nail in the coffin for Gay Rights, if they get in and get a few seats and become a coalition party who’s in power, it will be a huge disaster for this country.

        The last thing we want for this country, is a religious right.

        • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 5.1.1.1

          Welcome to Australia 2014.

          http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-11/curriculum-critic-wants-more-religion-to-be-taught-in-schools/5195410

          There should be more religious education in Australian schools, says one of the men tasked with reviewing the national curriculum.

          Former teacher and ex-Liberal Party staffer Kevin Donnelly says Australian education has become too secular, and the federation’s Judeo-Christian heritage should be better reflected in the curriculum.

        • millsy 5.1.1.2

          It wont be just Gay Rights, Brett. It will be the rights and freedoms of those who wish to pursue arragements outside what is regarded as the “traditional nuclear family”.

        • QoT 5.1.1.3

          The conservative party will be the nail in the coffin for Gay Rights

          I don’t think you understand how the phrase “final nail in the coffin” works, Brett. For a start, the thing in the coffin has to be something which is practically dead. Rights for same-sex couples are clearly not practically dead. In fact, after the utter victory of marriage equality last year, they’re not even being questioned.

          Also, I don’t think your reply actually has anything to do with my comment, so maybe some work on following-a-conversation-properly would be in order.

          • BM 5.1.1.3.1

            I agree.

            The hysteria shown by the two gay chaps above seem rather disproportionately out of whack to reality.

            It’s 2014 lads, not 1814, no one cares what gays people get up to, I’d bet money Colin Craig doesn’t particularly care either.

            Slightly more important stuff to deal with than what two or more people of the same sex get up to in the privacy of their own homes.

            • QoT 5.1.1.3.1.1

              No, I don’t think you’re agreeing with me at all there, BM. I certainly don’t agree with you.

              But it does seem that you are quite invested in what other people are getting up to in the privacy of their own homes.

              • BM

                You think straight people care what gay people get up to?.

                Hate to burst your bubble, but apart from a few extremist nut bars, no one gives a shit.

                Gays are just like everyone else.

            • Brett Dale 5.1.1.3.1.2

              BM

              Actually people like Colin Craig do care,and a ton of right wingers do care, the hatred they have for gay people are sickening. If Craig really didnt care, why would he bring it up?

              The last thing we want is people like him in Parliament.

          • Craig Y 5.1.1.3.2

            Not if I get my hands on a metaphorical nail gun first and nail him down when it comes to his unpalatable religious social conservative views first :)

          • Brett Dale 5.1.1.3.3

            Yo commented on the conservative party, and believe me that would be their main goal. Go after gay marriage, gay adoption, the rest will be on the back burner, things like “Ya can hit ya kids” are just a red herring. This guy is extremely homophobic, and I would say dangerous.

            Oh, I also didnt know a conversation had rules?

      • Colonial Viper 5.1.2

        I don’t know how openly the Conservatives would attack abortion/birth control, just because right now we have a very restrictive abortion regime

        14,745 abortions carried out in 2012. One of the lowest counts for many years according to Stats NZ website.

    • Draco T Bastard 5.2

      I will vote for the greens, and only if I fear that national will kick in again, will I hold my nose and vote Labour.

      I think you’ll find that the Greens are now a permanent member of parliament and so that reasoning doesn’t apply.

      • mac1 5.2.1

        Your comment “you’ll find that the Greens are now a permanent member of parliament’ is presumably over the next one or two elections, Draco T? The historian in me balked at it.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_New_Zealand

        There have been twenty parties represented in the NZ Parliament which no longer exist. Christian Democrats 1995-98, Christian Heritage 1999, Country 1928-38, Democratic Labour 1940-43, Future NZ 1994-5, Independent Political Labour League 1908-10, Labour (the original) 1910-12, Liberal 1991-27, Liberal 1992, Mana Wahine 98-99, Mauri Pacific 1999, New Labour 1989-91, Pacific 2008, Progressive 2001-11, Reform 1909-36, Social Credit 1966-69 and 1979-87, Social Democratic 1913-16, Socialist ?-1913, United NZ 1995-2000, United Labour 1912-13, United 1927-36.

        What chance that United Future, Maori, Mana, and ACT join this list very soon? (There have been, by the way, 50 parties which never had MPs.)

        Currently there are 8 parties in parliament and another five unrepresented registered parties.

        We have MPs now in office with National 1935-2014, Labour 1916-2014, Green 1996-2014, NZ First 1993-2014, Maori 2004-2014, ACT 1996-2014, Mana 2011-2014 United Future 2002-2014.

        Interesting to look at all this from a historical perspective as to permanence……………. only two have celebrated 21 years in office.

        • Draco T Bastard 5.2.1.1

          The Greens are still gaining in strength and I don’t think that they’ll drop below the threshold again. Of course, it may happen in some distant future but I don’t believe it will happen in the foreseeable future.

          BTW, you should probably trace some of those parties that no longer exist through their name changes and mergers. Once you’ve done that I think you’ll find that a few of them still do exist.

          • mac1 5.2.1.1.1

            I agree, of course, with your first paragraph. I do hope the Greens survive and thrive.

            Your second statement would depend on the meaning of ‘existence’, which philosophically is a rather large topic! I did trace their ancestry btw. However, even the Greens are not the old Values party. I remember their 1972 manifest plank of a basic living wage for all, which is now being discussed again on the Standard as worthy of revisiting.

          • dave 5.2.1.1.2

            i think the greens have a hardcore 9-10 percent cunliffe factor is affecting there vote labour had weak leadership for a long time now they have a leader with super left appeal just look at the membership numbers they have rocketed they will have more volenteers this year than all the other parties combined which is proble a good thing to get the vote out. greens need work hard to keep there vote as will mana because i think labour are going to be vacuming up the votes this year again the cunliffe factor at work and that huge activist base.
            it will be intresting if cunliffe make a move and invites the norman to the labour party congress this year i can see norman getting economic delevlopment.

    • Craig Y 5.3

      Absolutely right about Colin Craig’s threat to women’s reproductive freedom, Sabine. Have you read Gordon Campbell’s interview with him in Werewolf’s December 2013 edition? If so, you should. He’s talking about attacking teenagers access to abortion if people are foolish enough to vote for him…

      http://www.werewolf.co.nz

  6. dotcom could well be ‘the’ story of this campaign..

    ..tho’ i agree going on events to date his personal politics are unknown/murky..

    ..should he breach 5%..i really can’t see him going into govt with his current mortal enemy..key..

    ..eh..?

    ..and just his announcement should put cunnliffe/labour/greens/mana on notice that they had better come up with some seachange-policies in a range of areas..

    ..’cos dotcom will..

    ..and i would bet they will be policies drenched in populist-appeal..

    ..and as just one policy that will garner a lot of that 800,000 labour purports to court..(but from a distance)..

    ..i am picking he will brush aside the other parties scared/tentative-policies..and call for full legalisation/regulation/taxation of cannabis..(argued on economic/citing colorado grounds..)

    ..he will come up with an innovative idea/plan to clean up our waterways..

    ..these are just two examples of policies that will strike a nerve with many people..(esp those 800,00 currently totally cynical/disillusioned about politics ever having a role in making their lives better..

    ..in fact..nine years of neo-lib/uncaring labour ..just confirmed that cynicisim..(hey..!..it did in me..!..)

    ..dotacom will be casting his net wide..

    ..and will ignore the current party ideological-parameters..

    ..and tho’ like all the political-pundits..i am just stabbing in the dark..(but admitting it..unlike say..mccarten in the access-media today..with his stern election-predictions..where dotcom doesn’t rate a mention..despite his party already heralded..w.t.f. was with that..?..)

    ..i think dotcom is smart enough to know that yes..he can harvest votes from all the current parties..(.if he can seize the public-imagination..)

    ..but that his biggest pool is those 800 thousand disaffected..

    ..and as a new/fresh face/party…with the right policies..(and ..no..i don’t see some far-right/libertarian dreamscape as what dotcom will be pushing..)

    ..dotcom has the best chance of getting them off the couch..and voting for him..

    ..and him being a kingmaker after the next election..

    ..fascinating..

    ..and clearly..all the pundits’ previous prognostications are ‘off’

    ..eh..?..

    ..it’s all on..

    ,.and as a political-junkie/one writing/banging-on about this stuff..

    ..i ain’t displeased about that..

    phillip ure..

    • BM 6.1

      He’ll get extradited in April, thus killing the mega party.

    • veutoviper 6.2

      While I agree with a lot of your comments, I doubt that KDC will touch the cannabis issue, PU. He apparently does not touch alcohol or drugs. Big milk drinker!

      • phillip ure 6.2.1

        veuto..even non-users can see the madness/huge-costs that is prohibition..

        ..i am not insinuating he is pothead..i couldn’t care less..one way or the other..

        ..this is an argument that can be made purely on sane/rational economic-grounds..

        ..(and/but he really does need to get off that cancer-causing milk..whoar..!..

        ..go vegan..!..dotcom..!..

        ..use almond-milk as yr methadone..until the withdrawals pass..)

        phillip ure..

        • veutoviper 6.2.1.1

          LOL. I have a high intolerance to diary fat, but cannot stand rice or soy milk. Haven’t tried almond milk, but like coconut milk. Is almond milk readily available, and is it very expensive?

          • phillip ure 6.2.1.1.1

            yes to both on almond milk..v. nice..!

            ..you can also make yr own..even better/cheaper..

            (..asking the all-seeing eye should see you right for how-to’s..

            ..first step:..catch yr almonds..)

            ..and isn’t rice-milk particularly vile..?

            ..like badly-flavoured water..(shudder..!..)

            phillip ure..

            • greywarbler 6.2.1.1.1.1

              phillip u
              Rice milk,must be near to what they made starch from. Feed it to the troops so they stiffen up, stand straight etc. Good stuff for Labour, get all sticking together, no wilting in the tournament.

          • Draco T Bastard 6.2.1.1.2

            I have a high intolerance to diary fat, but cannot stand rice or soy milk.

            And I’m the exact opposite. Always hated cow milk. Can’t even stand it in my coffee these days.

            • veutoviper 6.2.1.1.2.1

              I never particularly liked full cream cow’s milk, either, so its no great loss to have to avoid it. I also have very bad memories of school milk left to go sour in the sun!

          • Colonial Viper 6.2.1.1.3

            I find it really difficult to understand how most of those things can be described as “milk” tbh.

            • weka 6.2.1.1.3.1

              They can’t. Technically milk comes from mammals. They’re promoted as milk substitutes but they’re not really. Ones you buy are highly processed foods that only represent milk in terms of how they look superficially. They don’t taste like milk, they have a different consistency, and their nutritional content is completely different. I don’t like milk myself, so I just don’t drink it (although I find raw milk is yummy and agrees with me better).

              Commercial milk susbstitutes are usually very sweet, far sweeter than milk. I’m guessing this is intentional (to make them taste better). They strike me as about as healthy as commercial fruit juice (that is, not very when eaten daily).

              And don’t get me started on the health problems associated with soy ;-)

              Or the environmental issues of milk substitutes.

              • Colonial Viper

                Thanks for that. I think your comments confirm exactly my feelings about these highly processed materials blended in with water and then being sold as food.

              • Draco T Bastard

                Commercial milk susbstitutes are usually very sweet, far sweeter than milk.

                That depends upon which one you get.

                They strike me as about as healthy as commercial fruit juice (that is, not very when eaten daily).

                That depends as well. Fruit juice that has no added sugar is no better nor worse for you than the fruit itself. Yes, it still has a lot of sugar in it but, then, so does fruit.

                • weka

                  A whole apple has nutrients in it that a glass of its juice doesn’t.

                  An apple picked off the tree outside, is a different food than a glass of juice from apples processed commercially.

                  One issue with commercial fruit juices is that they provide an easily accessible form of concentrated sugars. For people that already have too many refined carbohydrates in their diet, that’s not the best. Better than coke, not better than whole fruit. It’s all relative.

                  • veutoviper

                    I agree that most commercial fruit juices have additives including extra sugar, although there are a few that don’t. As you say, whole fruit are much better as they also have the benefits of the fibre, which fruit juice doen’t.

                  • Lanthanide

                    Orange juice has more sugar in it than coke.

              • karol

                I don’t like milk. I us a small amount of almond milk (unsweetened) when I need a liquid alterative for milk to mix into other ingredients. I have never drunk milk or put milk in my coffee or tea, so I don’t require a substitute for it for drinking.

                PS: I’m OK with yoghurt & consume more plain unsweetened yogurt than almond milk.

                And I agree on problems with soya – can do nasty things to my guts/indigestion.

        • phillip ure 6.2.1.2

          dotcom should hire me as a consultant..

          ..if he followed what i would advise..

          ..i would have him off his meds in three months..

          ..and feeling like a million dollars..

          ..phillip ure..

    • as an update/aside…dotcom arguing against his own personal interests..

      ..and for a higher tax rate on the richest..(‘to pay for what need to be done/fixed’..)

      ..would be a brilliant/credibility-enhancing tactical move on his part..

      ..and could well garner him 5% in its’ own right..

      ..eh..?

      ..but as with all other parties..and for the first time in living memory..

      ..it will be policies that will drive voters’ decisions..(esp. on left/soft-centre..)

      ..and all parties had better be aware of that..

      ..they will ignore that ‘new’ fact/reality..to their peril..

      phillip ure..

    • Bearded Git 6.4

      Yeah PU, McCarten is usually a good read in the HOS, but today he was rubbish.

    • Stuart Munro 6.5

      I think Kim Dotcom’s instincts are web libertarian – but he never courted the banksters. He expected he might have to do so settling in NZ, but John Banks let him down badly.

      The thing is neither ACT nor the Gnats were ever remotely progressive, but Dotcom is. He is on good terms with Green leadership, they tweet mutual support.

      A smart progressive party would seize him to consult on tech policy, but even as an independent he would represent the virtues that people criticise Colin Craig for lacking. His is smart, creative, innovative and well-informed. He also likes people, was throwing parties long before he got backstabbed.

      Making him an enemy was one of the biggest mistakes Key ever made, and because of it Kim Dotcom is ready to lead on freedom and privacy issues that people without skin in the game might have allowed to slide. He’s a better man than Key, and in any conflict that disparity gives him an enormous advantage.

      I welcome his presence in New Zealand politics. He narrows the country’s greatest political deficit: talent.

      • Anne 6.5.1

        Couldn’t agree more Stuart Munro.

        Glad to hear he’s on good terms with the Greens and, as far as I know, he’s on good terms with Cunliffe too.

        Making him an enemy was one of the biggest mistakes Key ever made..

        Oh the irony! Couldn’t wait to get into bed with the FBI and the Hollywood moguls “cos I want to be identified with them” and he turns someone who is rapidly becoming one of our most influential personalities. Love it.

      • Tracey 6.5.2

        isnt there the potential problem that he may have broken laws, flagrantly? Or has he successfully nullified that by his campaign to paint himself as the victim?

        I am not sure what the reality is, whether he is criminal or internet freedom fighter, just throwing it out there.

  7. Shorts 7

    Wot… No mention of the Civilian Party?

  8. ianmac 8

    Kim cannot stand as an MP because he is not a NZ Citizen. But as a political leader he could certainly wobble the status quo.

  9. Tanz 9

    The Conservative Party are doing very well in the polls.
    Will Labour work with them if they had to?
    I wouldn’t have thought so.
    Act are indeed, toast.
    I never thought Kimdotcom was a conservative.

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      Good. I hope the Conservative Party pushes for a Govt inquiry into whether or not the Moon landings actually happened. Colin Craig is right, there are questions which need to be answered.

      • Tamz 9.1.1

        Are you being serious, CV? So what about the moon landings, Craig is entitled to his opinion and there are many that would agree with him. Free speech, remember.

        • Colonial Viper 9.1.1.1

          I hadn’t understood that Colin Craig was going for the conspiracy theory vote until you explained it, but I guess it makes sense the way you put it.

        • Draco T Bastard 9.1.1.2

          People are entitled to their own opinions, they get to use the same facts as everybody else.

        • Brett Dale 9.1.1.3

          Tamz

          yes he is intitled to his opinion.

          But we are talking something that is FACT and not up for debate.

          I dont want someone like that in parliament.

          • Paul 9.1.1.3.1

            Brett, I agree.
            That’s why Rodney Hide should not return as he questions AGW.
            Climate Change, another Scientific fact denied by people unfit for government.

            • Colonial Viper 9.1.1.3.1.1

              If it’s a democracy, voters get to decide who they want in or out as their representatives.

              • Draco T Bastard

                That’s not true. We don’t allow criminals to be elected and I’m really starting to think that we shouldn’t allow people who deny reality to be elected either.

                • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                  Far better to tighten up Parliamentary procedure regarding evidence (for legislation) and judicial review where it is lacking.

                • Tracey

                  do reality deniers include the religious? I think it should. By all means believe in an unproven invisible friend but dont stand for parliament if you do because yuo don’t have a firm enough grasp on reeality.

                  • felix

                    Seems a bit harsh.

                    Plenty of highly intelligent, capable, talented people have faith in unproven invisible friends. It doesn’t necessarily preclude one from making rational decisions.

                    • tracey

                      why the exception? If someone doesn’t believe in climate change, then they can otherwise make rational decisions?

                      the difference between people who deny climate change and those who believe in an invisible friend, is the former don’t ask for special respect for their views, special grants and charitable rebates, want their own schools and so on.

                      what is the difference between someone who believes in someone that is not there and a schizophrenic?

                    • felix

                      I didn’t suggest you give their views any special credence. Quite the opposite.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Are we about to stop those deemed mentally unsuitable or mentally ill from voting too. This is going to be a very fun democracy in a very short space of time.

                    • felix

                      Yeah, if there’s one thing this society needs it’s less awareness of the spiritual side of life and more orientation toward the materialistic.

        • phillip ure 9.1.1.4

          @ tamz..no no..that’s not ‘free-speech’..

          ..that’s moonbat-ery…

          ..and all those that agree with him..?

          ..also moonbats..one and all..

          ..are you wth craig on this one..?

          ..still ‘debatable’..is it..?..

          ..that moon-landing thing..?

          phillip ure..

      • Lanthanide 9.1.2

        Colin said he didn’t know one way or the other whether man landed on the moon.

        That’s not the same as actively disbelieving it, or wanting to investigate whether it happened.

        Basically it’s his way of saying “that doesn’t have any impact on my life, so I don’t care about it”. This is actually a very terrifying viewpoint to have, but it does explain his parties policies and stances on scientific issues in general.

        • Tracey 9.1.2.1

          Are you sure? Couldn’t it also mean I don’t believe they landed on the moon but I know that is not voter palatable so I will twist it about a bit… His version of key’s “I don’t recall:?

          I mean he could have siad “I don’t care I want to talk about X”.

          • felix 9.1.2.1.1

            It could also mean “I am in no position to alienate the few extra voters I might pick up by dropping a few hints about moon landings, 911, and flouride. But I’m not quite stupid enough to side with them out loud.”

    • McFlock 9.2

      lol
      the conservatives are doing slightly better than act in the polls.
      This is not “very well”.

    • millsy 9.3

      Tanz, I should be able to fuck who I goddam well please without you or CC waving a bible at me telling me I am a sinner then petitioning the government to throw me in jail.

  10. George D 10

    The KDCP, even if it goes nowhere, will likely put the TPPA further up the agenda.

    There’s a small section of the electorate amenable to protest voting. Giving them a non NZF and non joke-party/ALCP alternative should increase overall turnout. A good thing.

  11. George D 11

    #An almost duplicate comment, see above ^.

  12. Chooky 12

    the middle pin up party is definitely the most sexy….i vote Labour or Greens try to co-opt Mr Dot Com and the Mega Party…and do a deal …..eg. you dont stand where we are marginal and if you advocate for us we will put you high on the list as technology spokeperson

  13. kerry 13

    I can only see Dot Com taking away valuable votes from Labour or the greens, those votes then wasted as it is highly unlikely he would get over 5%

    • Chooky 13.1

      agreed…that is why Labour or the Greens should absorb him somehow…(maybe he could stand in just one seat…John Key’s for maximum publicity )….and urge all voters to give their party vote to the Greens or Labour

      • Colonial Viper 13.1.1

        not an nz citizen, so cannot stand.

        • Chooky 13.1.1.1

          oh….well is there any other cunning plan to subsume him?….to Mega’s satisfaction and the mutual benefit of the Left

          • Colonial Viper 13.1.1.1.1

            Tough one that, seeing that he is a man used to being in charge, not taking orders and towing the given line…

            • weka 13.1.1.1.1.1

              Not to mention that his politics might not fit with the left.

              • Chooky

                …this is all true….maybe peaceful talks can begin.

                …because Dot Com is going to have a lot of appeal to the young computer nerds who value their freedom on the net and the disaffected who want to give National and the establishment a kick…Dot Com has anarchist pulling power, brains obviously …and a lot of money, so he is a match for Key

            • Tracey 13.1.1.1.1.2

              he doesnt want to be a bureaucrat.

    • @ kerry..

      “.. highly unlikely he would get over 5%..”

      ..with the right populist-policies..

      ..i think it highly likely his party will get 5%…

      phillip ure..

  14. tricledrown 14

    No intake of animal fats can lead to forms of arthritis.
    I’ m a vegetarian.
    Be very careful .
    Milk allergies can be overcome by starting with a small intake and building up.
    Or organic fed cows.
    Goats or sheeps milk.
    Being vegan or non dairy vegetarian is a path that needs a lot of work so you don’t mis out on vital foods.
    Just taking a vitamin pill is not going to fix it as only a max of 15% of the pills nutrients are going to be ansorbef verse 85% from food.

    • @ tricledown..

      “..No intake of animal fats can lead to forms of arthritis..”

      absolute rubbish..

      ..i know people who haven’t eaten animal fats for decades..

      ..they are in fine health..and don’t have arthritis..

      ..and..i don’t take any vitamin pills…and am vegan/plant-based..

      ..have normal blood-pressure etc..

      ..i dunno where you get this stuff..

      ..phillip ure..

  15. tricledrown 15

    Kerry what brings you that opinion.

    • kerry 15.1

      Anyone who is a right leaning voter cant stand the guy, anyone who is a national voter would rather die than give him there vote .So it appears only the left leaning voter would ever vote for him, which in itself is a conundrum because Dot Com has right leaning values, I personally cant see his future party claiming any more votes than 1 – 1.5% .

      • Colonial Viper 15.1.1

        Damn you’ve surveyed hundreds of thousands of National voters really efficiently.

      • phillip ure 15.1.2

        @ kerry..

        ..i think you deserve a special orifice-pluck-award for that one..

        ..assumption piled upon assumption..eh..?

        ..it doesn’t pass for critical-thought..eh..?

        ..phillip ure..

      • Tracey 15.1.3

        Except with his money he can front foot the anti TPP campaign and you will clearly be surprised how many of national’s voters wont like the TPP when it is presented to them by someone with money and the ability to get a message on tv, radio, print, etc… At the moment the govt is getting a free tpp ride hiding behind the superfluous confidentiality clause. can you publish your poll results? The herald would love them I am sure.

  16. Adrian 16

    We’ve been sucking on the tit since the first domestication of animals which must be since the dawn of humankind. If it was bad for us we wouldn’t be here.
    Interesting research came to light last year ( Victoria Uni I think ) about the significant lift in bowel cancers on the cohort that have missed out on school milk, apparently if you were one of the lucky ones to hold down the ” left -in-the-sun-till it-was-undrinkable”,you have real protection from the curse.

    • Colonial Viper 16.1

      The right kinds of bacteria might help the health of the gut…

      • veutoviper 16.1.1

        Exactly, CV. My dairy fat intolerance causes IBS; and school milk did not protect me from very early stage bowel cancer (hopefully now clear). But like a lot of people with dairy intolerance, yogurt is OK; particularly the Keffir yogurt now available (and sold as the tummy yogurt.). But we are well off track from the subject of this post – my apologies. Used to enjoy Weekend posts for these type of subjects – and gardening, birds etc. Back to mowing down more of the paddock before feeding the ‘zoo’ here has to be done.

        • Chooky 16.1.1.1

          @ veutoviper ….gluten/wheat intolerance can cause symptoms of IBS ..and also bowel cancer…it is easy these days to get a blood test for this

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease

        • phillip ure 16.1.1.2

          @ veuto..

          “..and school milk did not protect me from very early stage bowel cancer..”

          um…!..veuto ..sorry to hear about yr cancer..and hope you stay free/clear..

          ..but i’m afraid the bad news is that the ‘dairy-causes-cancer’-news that came out just after xmas..

          ..(with the subtext that the message echoes particularly loud here in nz..

          ..with our world-beating rates in some cancers..

          ..and our world-beating consumption of dairy..)..

          ..and the bad news is that one of cancers that we have world-beating rates in..

          ..and has been linked to dairy consumption..

          ..is bowel cancer..

          ..so dairy most certainly does not ‘protect’ you from bowel cancer..

          ..it is just the opposite..

          phillip ure..

          • Chooky 16.1.1.2.1

            @ phillip ure

            Yes but NZ soils are also very deficient in natural Selenium ( in countries we here Selenium is high there are very low rates of cancer)….also we have high rates of undiagnosed gluten intolerance which lead to all sorts of metabolic disorders…and this can often lead to milk allergies

            The jury is out on whether dairy products lead to cancer or are protective against cancer

            • phillip ure 16.1.1.2.1.1

              no chooky..the jury is no longer ‘out’..

              ..it has been ‘out’..up until the release of this meta-study..focusing on cancer/diet links..

              ..just after xmas..

              ..and i hafta say..the similarities (ie. wholesale denial) in reaction to this new news/meta-study..

              ..so so echo the reactions to the first warnings of tobacco being proven to cause lung cancer..

              ..as everyone went ‘bullshit!’..

              (as they peered thru the clouds of smoke enveloping them..

              ..and sparked up yet another ciggy..)

              ..we are in the same depths of ignorance now about dairy..

              ..as we were about tobacco then..

              ..and a potent comparison is that future hindsight will show clearly that we had may as well have been sticking a couple of ciggies in with the cheese-sarnies..in those school lunch-boxes..

              ..as both ciggies and dairy are addictive..both makes you odds on for cancer..

              ..leading to a premature death..

              ..and if you think yr reactions are bad..

              ..you should see how the dairy-dependant-vegetarians i know are handling my heads-up on this..

              ..i had lunch with five of them yesterday..

              ..their reactions range from denial..to at best a grudging acceptance of the logic/science behind the arguments..

              ..and this is news..like those first tobacco warnings..

              ..that is not going to go away..

              ..eh..?

              phillip ure..

              • Chooky

                philip ure

                can you provide links?

                I have no axe to grind on this…because from a very young age( 6 months old…eczema) I was diagnosed as being allergic to cows milk, consequently I have kept off it as far as possible….but as a child I still had massive allergies ( hayfever/asthma/eczema)… later specialists suspected wheat allergies but there was no way of testing….since my daughter has been tested for gluten allergies and found to be almost celiac …the whole family has been off gluten( easy to do with Healtheries non-gluten flour) ….and I now find I can drink milk….and my partner no longer has IBS

                ……just suggest you keep an open mind….everyone’s metabolism and genetics are different….and it is often unknown how some foods interact with other foods and are processed in the body ….one rule does not apply to everyone
                eg . some have argued that schizophrenia and autism are reactions to gluten…just as for some people dairy is associated with heart disease

                I agree with you on the ethical issues …ie .bobby calves….however i think if cows are treated well …(calves not weaned too soon)and are free-range on grass (similar to free-range hens) then it is ok ethically

                …in fact milk from organic grass fed free-range cows is supposed to be good for many people in studies

                • hi chooky..

                  ..here is the main cache..

                  http://whoar.co.nz/?s=dairy

                  and..

                  http://whoar.co.nz/?s=cancer

                  the new/specific meta-study i cite is 4th down in the cancer-link..

                  ..hope that helps..

                  ..phillip ure..

                  • Chooky

                    @ phillip ure …..well i dont think your evidence is very strong for dairy causing cancer ….and there is an awful lot of evidence for the health benefits of dairy products, especially from organic grass fed cows…( while admittedly there is also a lot of evidence of dairy allergies in some people causing other adverse health effects eg heart )

                    .. I think your strongest case against dairy is the ethics….bobby calves and non organic fed and reared barn cows ( the latter of which we dont have in NZ yet and which will probably downgrade NZ’s dairy industry quality /reputation if we do)

                    PS. i wonder if Mr Mega Dot Com has a lot of dairy?….but then again he may be a vegetarian and eat a lot of carbo and sugar…my gamer son has put on an awful lot of weight since he became vegetarian

                    • @ chooky..a bad/dairy-sodden vegetarian-diet is not good for you..

                      ..as often dairy-intakes jumps..to compensate for no flesh..

                      ..yr son should go vegan..

                      ..here is all the info he needs..

                      http://whoar.co.nz/?s=vegan

                      phillip ure

                    • Chooky

                      agree philip ure….on eating too much dairy on a vege diet

                      …however unless one is a Indian chef and takes the time to slow cook fabulous Indian vegetarian food platters ,the temptation to fill up on dairy for a lazy gamer vegetarian is irresistable …particularly if they are sick of canned beans and dont like veges

                    • chooky..

                      ..here are gourmet-japanese/indian/thai vegan-recipies..and more..

                      http://whoar.co.nz/?s=vegan+recipies

                      heh..!..i just scrolled thru the list..

                      ..and seriously..i have collected/collated more vegan recipies than you can poke a stick at..

                      ..so..chooky..back to yr son..

                      ..have a look for easy-to-do-vegan stuff..(of which there is plenty..)

                      ..and point him at that..

                      ..and buy him a couple of hand-dumbells..

                      ..better food and 2-3 5 min bursts of energy/exercise/curls? a day..

                      ..will see him u-turning..

                      ..good luck with that..

                      ..and yep..!..there are three legs to the vegan-stool..

                      ..help yrslf..

                      ..help the animals..

                      ..help the planet..

                      ..which one is leant on most is not that important..

                      ..to begin with..

                      phillip ure

                    • Chooky

                      philip ure …….agree with you entirely …..however teenagers are not rational people……..and gamers are particularly lazy when it comes to preparing food…he has been a vegan for several months and he ate a lot of beans and carbo and got fat and sick of beans and carbo…so he became a vegetarian and ate dairy…no exercise and no veges to speak of …..last year he was a meat eater and fit and trim as an iron man…..so teenagers!!!

  17. joe90 17

    The mutation that made dairy vital to the survival of my northern ancestors.

    http://www.nature.com/news/archaeology-the-milk-revolution-1.13471

  18. One Anonymous Knucklehead 18

    Mr.com has to get the 500 paid-up members before he can do anything.

    No small hurdle.

    • Draco T Bastard 18.1

      Not small but not particularly large either. The first problem comes in setting up the administration to handle the party (I think most people fail at that as they just NFI as to what’s needed). The second is having the resources needed to get the word of the new party out.

      I don’t think DotCom will problems with either of those.

    • burt 18.2

      Dotcom makes a lot of sense about politicians serving themselves. I’ve been saying that for years.

      I’d say Dotcom with 333,000+ twitter followers will have zero issues getting 500 financial members.

      • One Anonymous Knucklehead 18.2.1

        Assuming Twitter following translates into “I agree with you politically and want to join your party”, I’m sure you’re absolutely right.

      • Tracey 18.2.2

        which is why you cant possibly vote National, Act, Labour…

    • Tracey 18.3

      he could pay the subs for 500 people?

  19. millsy 19

    Depending on the manifesto that DC’s Labour puts up, the chances of New Zealand First getting in, and what KDC’s party is going to promise, I might just vote for it. Face it. a Dotcom party wouldnt do any worse than the parties we have now.

  20. BM 20

    I’d prefer people voted Green, than vote for the German criminal.

    Sooner the prick’s out of the country the better.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 20.1

      I had the opportunity to ask a QC recently for their views on the case. I think you may need to get ready for a bit of a disappointment.

      • BM 20.1.1

        Really?, I hope not.

        I can’t stand the prick, he’s laughing at New Zealand, he thinks we’re all gullible hayseeds that are just here for his amusement.

        He can go get fucked.

        • Murray Olsen 20.1.1.1

          Really? I hope so.

          I can’t stand the prick, he’s laughing at New Zealand, he thinks we’re all gullible hayseeds that are just here for his enrichment.

          He can go back to Hawaii.

          There, fixed it for you, but I thought you liked Key?

          • BM 20.1.1.1.1

            I do like Key and do like the way he’s taking NZ

            He’s doing what he thinks is best for NZ, bit a Clark, Bolger, Lange and the rest of the Kiwi Pms that went before him.

            Unlike the fat German fuck who’s only in it for himself, shame there’s so many dumb uneducated fucks out there in kiwiland that think he’s some sort of messiah that’s going to give them all this free stuff, bunch of dumb arses.

        • Tracey 20.1.1.2

          “I can’t stand the prick, he’s laughing at New Zealand, he thinks we’re all gullible hayseeds that are just here for his amusement.”

          If he follows your posts he would certainly think so.

    • Tracey 20.2

      you must want banks gone too then, asap? Given you believe in guilty til proven innocent. you should begin a letter writing campaign to key to disassociate himself with criminals?

  21. karol 21

    So who would be candidates for Dotcom’s party?

    The linked article says this:

    Rumours around potential candidates include a “well-known broadcast journalist”, according to Edwards. And he believes a number of bloggers and political activists will gravitate towards the new party.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 21.1

      Can anyone say shallow talent pool?

      • Paul 21.1.1

        John Banks?

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 21.1.1.1

          Someone with impeccable anti-surveillance credentials who wants to be a politician but hasn’t already joined another party? The talent pool is getting shallower…

        • Chooky 21.1.1.2

          Paul +1…John Banks is a very good example of shallow pool talent…but he would disagree

      • karol 21.1.2

        The celebrity-culture-in-the-digital-age candidates?

        Not very impressed by this Dotcom move – he’s a man with a big ego and likes to be the centre of attention.

        If he was serious about politics, other than for his own agenda, he’d more likely have supported another party – but I guess their isn’t one with his particular wants/needs – and he maybe feels he’s bigger than someone else’s party.

        • sabine 21.1.2.1

          anyone going into politics has to have a big ego and an overflated sense of self, or else they would not enjoy the rat race.

          Actually, I think there is something that can’t be said of John Key, but is true fro KDC. KDC likes New Zealand and has made the country his home. John Key will bugger off as soon as he is done with his Middle Management Stint as Prime Minister of the little Country NZ.

          And for what its worth, The KDC Party would garner its 5% in its first year. There are just too many disenfranchised voters out there that are neither served by Labour, National or the Greens.
          Also not to be underestimated the appeal KDC has to young, first time voters, left/right leaning libertarians and the disillusioned Labour/Green (insert any other party). As for Prime Minister, how about John Campbell? Head would explode! Lol

          • karol 21.1.2.1.1

            KDC doesn’t just have a big ego – it’s super big. And others still manage to be more interested int he well being of the less well off.

            I don’t underestimate KDC’s appeal to some – we live in a celebrity culture – KDC fits right in.

            KDC has had some pretty unflattering things to say about in NZ at times. Right now, he can’t really go much place else. Wasn’t he living in Hong Kong as well as NZ at one stage?

            KDC’s interest in NZ is quite shallow. His interest is more in the transnational wealthy lifestyle.

            • BM 21.1.2.1.1.1

              This, with bells on.

            • sabine 21.1.2.1.1.2

              and there he joins many others. Fact is this country is being sold to the highest bidder. John Key has opened the gates for this to happen, and I can’t see anyone back tracking on it.

              Question, will Labour do away with the new lending rules? it has been established now that the only ones benefiting from these rules are investors. Where do they come from? overseas?

              is KDC in anyway more big headed then John Key? I can’t say anything about Cunliffe, because really I know nothing of him, and as of now he has not done anything that makes him any better.

              We have to come to grips with the fact that our future politicians will be global, they will live overseas (John Key has done so, Helen Clarke is on her big OE at the moment), To truly have a populist local candidate, I have no one that pops into my mind.

              And as for unflattering things to say about NZ, i thought that was a national sport?

              disclaimer, I am German, NZ resident for over 15 years now and out of reflex vote green. My choice for Prime Minister after Clarke was Fitzsimmonds, but the country was in deep need of a set of balls, no matter how small.

            • Tracey 21.1.2.1.1.3

              Key doesn’t just have a big ego – it’s super big. And others still manage to be more interested in the well being of the less well off.

              I don’t underestimate Ket’s appeal to some – we live in a money chasing culture – Key fits right in.

              Key has had some pretty unflattering things to say about in NZ at times Wellington is ded, prefers to holiday in hawaii). Right now, he can’t really go much place else. Wasn’t he living in New York as well as NZ at one stage?

              Key’s interest in NZ is quite shallow. His interest is more in the transnational wealthy lifestyle.

              FIFY

        • Tracey 21.1.2.2

          “he’s a man with a big ego and likes to be the centre of attention.” So you think he could be prime minister karol? ;)

    • Murray Olsen 21.2

      Paddy Gower? He might be prepared to do a lot for an invite to one of Dotcom’s parties.

      • karol 21.2.1

        Gower? If so, can’t wait to see who the journo will be who keeps thrusting a mic in Gower’s face and asking when he’s going to stage a coup against the leader of his party!

      • Tracey 21.2.2

        dont think he has the money where your mouth balls. Garner? KDC could top up his MP salary so he is not out of pocket

  22. red blooded 22

    Kim Dot Com strikes me as self obsessed and manipulative, not to be trusted. He has only started talking about politics as another way to inveigle himself with the media and general public while he uses his obscene wealth to wage a publicity war on his former friends. These are his natural allies; he’s just annoyed by them, so he’s turning on them.

    As for the whole milk debate; how about a bigger perspective? Milk for human consumption is produced by the slaughter of bobby calves (news item: cows, like people, lactate to feed their young, not to feed other species), has a terrible effect on the environment and is a very inefficient use of land, water and other resources.

    It’s not that hard being vegan and it’s not difficult to have a balanced diet. I cannot imagine going back to eating other animals or eating their milk or eggs. I wonder if the person who commented on this above has actually given veganism a try. If not, one wonders on what basis they are commenting. (Sorry this is out of order – phone comment.)

    • weka 22.1

      “It’s not that hard being vegan”

      Actually for many people it is if they want to be healthy. Any restricted diet takes effort.

      Milk for human consumption is produced by the slaughter of bobby calves (news item: cows, like people, lactate to feed their young, not to feed other species), has a terrible effect on the environment and is a very inefficient use of land, water and other resources.

      You don’t have to slaughter bobby calves to produce milk. Nor do you have to pollute the environment. Those two things and the inefficiency are to do with conventional and industrial dairy farming. Those are all consequences of capitalism, not inherent end points of drinking milk.

      I’d be interested to know how you manage to be vegan without increasing your carbon footprint via food miles, and/or supporting Monsanto. Not saying it can’t be done, just that it isn’t often.

      • phillip ure 22.1.1

        @ weka..

        ..You don’t have to slaughter bobby calves to produce milk..”

        ..but the reality is that this is what happens..

        ..i am unsure what vision of pastoral idyll you are calling upon there..

        ..but for dairy farmers..the bobby calves are money..

        ..they are sent to the slaughterhouse..

        ..to become veal..

        ..and they do not get their mothers’ milk..

        ..once again..that is the farmers’ money..

        ..and as for claim that being a vegan/plant-based person is hard..

        ..um..!..as one..can i just say..it isn’t..

        ..you would be amazed at the world of taste that opens up to/for you once you remove animal flesh as the centre-piece of every meal..

        ..and once you stop smothering everything with gluggy cheese..(ewww..!!..)

        ..and the suffering of/cruelties done to those animals..in your name..

        ..don’t even figure in yr conciousness/considerations..eh..?

        ..and you say you are a ‘green’..?

        ..and you are preaching about ‘supporting monsanto’..?

        ..is that before or after you have wiped the pig-fat from yr lips..?

        ..how about you get that animal-flesh-mote the size of a log out of yr eye..eh..?

        ..”green’..?..don’t make me laugh..!

        phillip ure..

        • weka 22.1.1.1

          ..You don’t have to slaughter bobby calves to produce milk..”

          ..but the reality is that this is what happens..

          ..i am unsure what vision of pastoral idyll you are calling upon there..

          ..but for dairy farmers..the bobby calves are money..

          ..they are sent to the slaughterhouse..

          ..to become veal..

          ..and they do not get their mothers’ milk..

          ..once again..that is the farmers’ money..

          Which is why I don’t support industrial dairying. As I’ve said repeatedly.

          I’ve eaten vegan, which is why I already know that it tastes good and is hard work for most people to do in a nutritionally competent way. I have no trouble believing that you find it easy, but you are not most people.

          The criticisms around ethics and vegan impacts environmentally stand, irrespective of your grossly mis-targeted ad hominems.

          All western diets impact negatively on the planet, I’m just saying that veganism can’t take the high ground you think it can.

          • phillip ure 22.1.1.1.1

            yes weka..everything is relative..

            ..and perfection a difficult state to both attain and sustain/maintain..

            ..but you can hardly defend meat/dairy eating/producing on environmentally-sustainable grounds..

            ..as in meat/dairy better than vegan/plant-based..?

            ..got any facts/figures/links to support that supposition..?

            ..growing meat has been long proven as one of the most inefficient uses of land/water-resources…

            “..The criticisms around ethics and vegan impacts environmentally stand..”

            could you remind me of them..?

            ..(bullet-points will suffice..)

            ..and seriously..!..do you ever see ‘health-experts’ advising:

            ..’eat more meat..!..eat more cheese..!’..

            ..as a road to good-health/chronic-disease-prevention..?

            ..i wonder why the answer to that question is:..’no’..it’s always ‘eat less!’..

            ..now..why do reckon that is..?

            ..and re yr claim that i am somehow ‘different’ ‘ ‘cos i not only enjoy my vegan/plant-based lifestyle..i celebrate it..

            (and be in no doubt..my attitudes are purely from a self-interest p.o.v..in that i feel so much better..than when i was a carnivore..

            ..and feel better than i did during the 15 yrs i spent as a dairy-dependant-vegetarian..

            ..(and yes..when vegetarian..i thought vegans were a bit ‘weird’..heh..!..

            ..had perhaps taken things..just a bit too far..?..)

            ..and i must say..yr last couple of lines have me totally puzzled..

            ..are you advocating ‘living off air..or just shut up!’..

            ..and i should note that i know a community of people who took over a dairy-trashed valley..

            ..and turned it into a form of eden..

            ..a place where they get most of their food off that land..

            ..so yr ‘impact negatively’ is horse-shit really..

            ..you can both live and be kind to the planet..

            ..and once again..’perfection’ is a difficult goal..

            ..but surely having a go at getting as near to that as possible..

            ..as well as being kind to the animals/planet..

            ..is worth the effort..?

            ..d’yareckon..?..

            phillip ure..

    • karol 22.2

      Kim Dot Com strikes me as self obsessed and manipulative, not to be trusted. He has only started talking about politics as another way to inveigle himself with the media and general public while he uses his obscene wealth to wage a publicity war on his former friends. These are his natural allies; he’s just annoyed by them, so he’s turning on them.

      I typed my above comment before reading this – yep, similar to my assessment – self-focused.

      • phillip ure 22.2.1

        are you serious karol..

        ..assumption upon assumption..

        ..all made from a position of total ignorance of the facts of the matter..

        ..but you ‘know’..eh..?

        ..hilarious..!

        phillip ure..

    • Tracey 22.3

      do you think dogs should be fed meat?

      with your concern for the environment I hope you have no soy or corn products of any kind in your pantry or body

      • phillip ure 22.3.1

        @ tracy..i have two dogs that live on a vegan diet..

        ..one is 15 yrs old..and looks/moves/runs about like a 5-6 yr old..

        ..has a wonderful/mellow/happy nature..

        ..and in a lifetime of having dogs around me..she is the best/smartest/best at being on same wavelength..that has been my privilege to care for..

        ..and she often knows what i am going to do before i do it..

        ..it’s kinda spooky sometimes..

        ..and she has a serious internal-clock going on..if we haven’t been for a walk to the park by a certain time..she moves into serious bullying-mode..

        ..and as she is an eye-dog..she is quite good at it..she just locks into yr eyes..

        ..with what i swear is a faint look of impatience on her face..

        .plus..she doesn’t stink of rotting flesh..

        ..her coat is shiny..

        ..you do know that the oldest dog in the world has lived on a vegan diet all its’ life..eh..?

        ..it’s 29..i think..

        ..and if you still disbelieve..i have photo-galleries of vegan-diet dogs at whoar..

        ..phillip ure..

        ..

  23. sabine 23

    Anyone entering Politics need to be manipulative, full of themselves, big ego, big smiles and a cut throat attitude, or else they die the first day in the shark pool.

    Politics is not a polite game.

    • karol 23.1

      That’s a pretty facile defence of a man with a big ego who wants to dabble in the power plays of politics.

      They are not all like Dotcom or John Key. Others have a reasonable ego, but also care about the well being of the people in their country.

      • sabine 23.1.1

        I am a cynic when it comes to Politics. Especially the last 14 years have erased any rose coloured views i might have had of Politicians and their counterparts in business, banks etc.

        So no, i don’t believe that there are many left who actually want to serve the people. Most of them want to serve themselves.

        Maybe i am proven wrong, but i wont hold my breath.

    • Draco T Bastard 23.2

      No, they don’t. They probably need self-assurance and people skills but they don’t actually need to be a psychopath – unless they’re running for a right-wing party such as National.

    • Arfamo 23.3

      I’m thinking, where’s this analysis wrong and then I remember Aaron Whatshisname who met all those criteria and lasted 5 minutes.

      • Tracey 23.3.1

        was dispendable. Banks meets them too, so does Dunne and so on. BUT they weren’t people Key could easily make an example of to garner brownie points.

  24. Jimmie 24

    I have to laugh that KDC who (from a leftie point of view) epitomizes the stereotype of an immoral, capitalistic, rich prick who has amassed his ill gotten millions by ripping off others hard work and who has been convicted during the process of this accumulation is held up by the left as the saviour of their cause for electoral victory.

    Normally most on the left would jump up and down with glee at the prospect of him being dragged off to the US to face the music for his dodgy dealings.
    However because he has become a partial thorn in the side of John Banks/John Key he is is suddenly elevated to the position of Saint Kim by the left hoping fervently that he may be the Achilles heel that will bring them power in 2014.

    It is both funny and sad at the same time in that the only hope of electoral victory for the opposition is an overweight, foreign, helicoptering capitalist, who is likely to face deportation and criminal charges in the near future……..surely the left can come up with something better than this?

    • karol 24.1

      Many of us on the left are not that enamoure with KDC – see my coomments above.

      He has been useful however in showing up some of the dodgy dealings of Key and co – the GCSB etc. But part of that is a battle of egos between KDC & JK.

    • Tracey 24.2

      commenting on his impact on the political scene is not the same as liking or supporting him. I don’t know if he is guilty of what he is charged with. I know very little about him other than what I read and that is not very elucidating on his personal morals or whatever.

      I am amazed at how many on the left are so quick to jump to negative judgments based on so little.

      he could be a fuck, he might not be.

  25. ecossemaid 25

    Oh The Muppet Party (Which I thought was a bad film with Michael Caine as straight Man to Kermit) The Assault Party (Have they all got AK 47’s) The Dot Com Party ( Ok they are now making Parties up) Are some of you people that naval gazing in the extreme that your now concerned about the potential of Parties that don’t exist? Does Your Coffee Latte (No Milk Only Soya) allow you the luxury of worrying about Ghost Parties? Meanwhile….The National Party, you know them? That Massive Elephant In The Room, The One Over There>>> With A Huge smirk on its face and the blood stained axe as they continue to slash, burn destroy our public services strangle our young peoples working chances and destroy welfare. Meanwhile the LBGT / Environmental/(Choose your own one off issue, that you can afford to denote time, resources on) Bickers about Parties that don’t exist,,,,It begs the question that these people haven’t even felt the chill breeze of The Destruction that’s occurring in Real New Zealand as they are just so concerned about satellite reception in Their Ivory Towers!
    Yes it must be difficult to decide what coffee we drink as we sit and pontificate at the local cafe..Telling our friends how very political we are,that we write in a blog on the internet.The sad thing is the only thing it appears that some in here have a grip on is the coffee cup.
    The Nazi Wannabee Party must think all it’s Christmases have come at once with certain elements of the broad left fragmenting any organised form of opposition .By default they have become their Pseudo Allies and they don’t even know it!

  26. Rich 26

    I wonder whether, given Joyce’s actions in directing ACT, National / ACT are approaching the point where ACT should be registered as a component party of National under s127 of the Electoral Act. It may be possible to make a complaint to the Electoral Commission on this?

    • burt 26.1

      Rich

      If ACT keep getting a member elected they will become like Jim Anderton was to Labour. A double dipping leech getting separate party funding while unequivocally supporting National. The irony is the people who defended Anderton will now be on the attack and his previous attackers will be defending [whoever]…

      • McFlock 26.1.1

        No, because anderton’s wasn’t a vote in the house that enabled policies that the majority of new zealanders opposed. Unlike ACT or UF, either of whom could have stopped asset sales

        • burt 26.1.1.1

          Of course, we all wanted stuff banned and everyone wants other people’s money.

          • felix 26.1.1.1.1

            stuff has been banned? About bloody time.

            Seriously though, what was actually banned that you’re still so upset about?

            • McFlock 26.1.1.1.1.1

              He wasn’t allowed to take his thinking-brain dog into the library while he used the public internet connection.

  27. infused 27

    Anyone supporting kim.com is a fucking muppet.

    • Lanthanide 27.1

      Do you disagree with his stance on privacy?

      • infused 27.1.1

        I don’t disagree with much of what he says. but that’s not why he’s doing it.

        With Kim there is one goal. Self preservation.

        He will say anything to get more media attention to keep himself in the spotlight. This is for one reason only.

        It’s so blindingly obvious it hurts. Yet so many fall for it.

        • felix 27.1.1.1

          Yeah it must be annoying watching supposedly intelligent people being taken in by such an obvious charlatan, and enjoying it.

    • Arfamo 27.2

      I didn’t realise they had a muppet for that. Boy they really thought of all sorts of types of muppets didn’t they.

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    New documents released to the Green Party show that Prime Minister John Key used New Zealand's intelligence services for the National Party's political ends a few days out from the 2014 election, the Green Party said today.Documents released to the...
    Greens | 13-11
  • Government not meeting its climate target
    The Government must front up to the fact that its own advisors are now saying that New Zealand is off target in any transition to a low carbon future, says Labour’s spokesperson on Climate Change Nanaia Mahuta.  “A briefing to...
    Labour | 12-11
  • Briefing reveals Defence facilities ‘increasingly unfit for purpose’
    The Defence Briefing to the Incoming Minister reveals a deteriorating state in Defence facilities that are no longer fit for purpose, says Labour’s Defence spokesperson Phil Goff.  “The briefing is heavily censored but still reveals that Defence camps, bases and...
    Labour | 12-11
  • New projections show New Zealand missing climate target
    Briefings to Incoming Ministers released today reveal the Government's climate policy is failing with projected emission more than double what is needed to meet National's 2050 target, the Green Party saidProjections released by the Ministry for the Environment, as part...
    Greens | 12-11
  • National’s highways far less efficient
    National’s new state highways have a far lower cost-benefit ratio than motorways built under the last Labour Government, making a mockery of the Government’s bluster that its road building will boost the economy, says Labour's Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “New...
    Labour | 12-11
  • Governor points finger at National on supply
    The Reserve Bank Governor has admitted he had to keep loan to value mortgage restrictions in place because the Government’s attempts to increase housing has fallen ‘a long way short’, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The thousands of first...
    Labour | 12-11
  • Did Collins cover up Slater’s OIA requests?
    Disgraced former Cabinet Minister Judith Collins must explain why she appears to have tried to hide Official Information Act requests she fulfilled for Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater, Labour MP Megan Woods says. “New documents obtained by Labour show Judith...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Reserve Bank’s dairy warning must be heard
    The Reserve Bank’s warning that falling dairy prices are creating greater risks for the New Zealand economy must be taken seriously by Bill English and John Key, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “Dairy prices have nearly halved since February...
    Labour | 11-11
  • National’s housing failure keeps LVRs in place
    The Reserve Bank’s decision to leave loan-to-value ratio mortgage restrictions in place is further confirmation of National’s housing policy fiasco, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Reserve Bank would have lifted LVRs if they had seen any increase in...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Let’s see if it is plane sailing Mr Bridges
    Comments by Transport Minister Simon Bridges that Far North residents' anger over cutbacks to regional flights will be allayed by larger planes and cheaper fares out of Kerikeri, are just pure arrogance, says Labour’s Te Tai Tokerau MP Kelvin Davis....
    Labour | 11-11
  • Commerce Commission inquiry needed into building supplies monopoly
    The Commerce Commission must stop dragging the chain and urgently investigate the anti-competitive practices in the building industry that are driving up the cost of building materials, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Competition in the building materials market is...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Air New Zealand grounds Far North
    The announcement by Air New Zealand to close services from Kaitaia to Auckland will be an absolute disaster for the Far North, Labour MP for Te Tai Tokerau Kelvin Davis says.  “Air New Zealand is sending a signal to the...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Pulling West Coast flights a savage blow
    Air New Zealand’s decision to withdraw its Westport service is another kick in the guts for an already struggling community, West Coast-Tasman MP, Damien O’Connor says.   “Having been involved in the West Coast’s efforts to get Air Nelson to return...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Air NZ cuts economic lifelines to neglected regions
    Air New Zealand’s plans to cut its Eagle Air regional services to already struggling regions is a hammer blow to Westport, Whakatane and Kaitaia, says Labour's Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The regions of New Zealand are being abandoned by this...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Christchurch on the rent rack
    A jump of 20 per cent in weekly rents in the past year is a disaster for Christchurch, says Associate Housing spokesperson Poto Williams. “The Trade Me Property Rental Price index has rightly described the city as being a ‘...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Past time to act on warnings about palliative care
    Health officials have been warning the Government about a critical shortage of palliative care specialists for years, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader and Health spokesperson Annette King says. A stocktake carried out for the Ministry of Health shows New Zealand’s end...
    Labour | 10-11
  • Report must spur Government into action
    The soaring cost of domestic violence and child abuse highlight the need for the Government to prioritise and act on the issue, says Labour's spokesperson for Social Development, Sue Moroney.“Findings from the Glenn Inquiry that show the problem is estimated...
    Labour | 10-11
  • Family safety paramount, then urgent review
    Corrections Minister Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga has some serious questions to answer over why a dangerous prison escapee, convicted of further crimes while in jail, managed to abscond while he was on approved temporary release, Labour’s Corrections spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says.“Phillip...
    Labour | 09-11
  • LVRs a failed experiment from Bill English
    Loan to value mortgage restrictions are a failed experiment from Bill English to tame Auckland house prices, that have caused collateral damage to first home buyers and other regions, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The possible end of LVR...
    Labour | 09-11
  • Govt books getting worse as economy slows
    National’s economic credibility is under serious scrutiny with its search for surplus becoming harder due to an economy far too reliant on the dairy industry, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National promised New Zealanders would get into surplus by...
    Labour | 06-11
  • Kiwis in pain because of Government underfunding
    New research showing one in three people needing elective surgery are being denied publicly-funded operations shows the Government must properly fund the health sector, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. “For almost two years Labour has been warning about the...
    Labour | 06-11
  • National’s promised surplus looking doubtful
    Budget figures for the first quarter of the financial year released today by Treasury show the Government's goal of achieving a budget surplus is looking doubtful, the Green Party said today."National has staked its credibility on achieving a budget surplus...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Kevin Hague speaks on the Gambling Amendment Bill (No 3)
    I rise to give this speech on behalf of Denise Roche, who handles the gambling portfolio for the Green Party. This bill deals with class 4 gambling—pokies in pubs and clubs—and it is the result of changes that were suggested...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Kevin Hague speaks on the Health (Protection) Amendment Bill
    I would like to start off where the previous speaker left off, on the issue of balancing rights or balancing harms. All law is in some way a restriction of personal liberty. That is the point of law. When we...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Joyce backs away from yet another target
    Steven Joyce has backed away from two targets in two days, refusing to acknowledge that his Government has an unambitious aim to get unemployment down to 4 per cent in 11 years’ time, says Labour Associate Finance spokesperson David Clark....
    Labour | 06-11
  • Pacific peoples incomes and jobs falling under National
    The Minister of Pacific Peoples is attempting to bury the ugly facts of Pacific unemployment and income levels worsening since National took office in 2008, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson, Su’a William Sio. “If the Minister doesn’t acknowledge how bad...
    Labour | 06-11
  • The Block NZ doing a better job than Nick Smith
    Nick Smith should consider calling in producers of The Block NZ with participants in the TV series completing more houses in two seasons than the Government’s failed Special Housing Area policy, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The Block NZ...
    Labour | 06-11
  • Meridian moves to kill competition from solar homes
    Big electricity companies are using their power to make it harder for families and businesses wanting to go solar and the National Government is doing nothing to help them, the Green Party said today. Meridian Energy announced today a 60-72...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Has John Key done all he could for Pike families?
    It will be forever on the conscience of John Key whether he did all he could to recover the remains of the 29 miners who died in Pike River, Labour’s MP for West Coast-Tasman Damien O’Connor says.  “The Prime Minister...
    Labour | 05-11
  • National further dashes hopes of new parents
    The National Government has once again shown its disdain for working parents by voting down proposals to extend paid parental leave, Labour MP Sue Moroney says.  “The Government vetoed an amended proposal that substantially reduced the cost of extending PPL...
    Labour | 05-11
  • Honouring the Ampatuan massacre victims as fight for justice goes on
    A grim reminder of the Maguindanao, or Ampatuan, massacre on 23 November 2014. Photo: DanRogayan A TOP Filipino investigative journalist will be speaking about the “worst attack” on journalists in history and her country’s culture of impunity in a keynote...
    The Daily Blog | 23-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – what are they afraid of: the erosion of democ...
    Today the Hamilton City Council has put on a big party to celebrate the 150th anniversary of European colonisation of the area.  There have been a series of events during the year to mark this event, including a civic ceremony. ...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • #JohnKeyHistory
    John Key has done it again. This week our lovely Prime Minister has showed us how little he knows about the history of the country he is supposed to be running. Apparently “New Zealand was settled peacefully”. Was it really?...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • G20 growth targets and growth model offer more problems than they solve
    At the recent G20 in Brisbane, member countries agreed to accelerate growth to an additional 2% on top of current trajectories. But ongoing public sector cuts, asset sales, and reducing workers’ rights indicate that at least part of the growth...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Bill Courtney – Charter Schools: The Shroud of Secrecy Contin...
    The Ministry of Education yesterday released another batch of information relating to the five existing charter schools and the four new ones proposed for opening in 2015. As we have seen before, the release of such information, often requested under...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • EXCLUSIVE: Campaign reflection, Laila Harré reaching out for radical minds
    Today I’ve announced that I will be stepping down from the Internet Party leadership in December. This will happen once options for the future have been developed for discussion and decision among members. My absolute focus in this election was...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • The Ebola crisis, capitalism and the Cuban medical revolution
    “Ebola emerged nearly 40 years ago. Why are clinicians still empty-handed, with no vaccines and no cure? Because Ebola has been, historically, geographically confined to poor African nations. The R&D incentive is virtually non-existent. A profit-driven industry does not invest...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • MEDIA WATCH: TVNZ Reveals Insane Deadlines For Māori and Pacific Island Pr...
    Last Tuesday, November 18th, TVNZ requested proposals from producers for the four Māori and Pacific Island programmes they will no longer be making in-house. Marae, Waka Huia, Fresh and Tagata Pasifika will keep their existing names, existing formats and existing...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • The Daily Blog Breakfast Club Ep. 1
    TDB Video, Live from Verona Cafe on K-Rd, Auckland – a weekly current affairs show with TDB Editor Martyn Bradbury. This week’s panel: Chris Trotter & Selwyn Manning.The issues: 1 – What now for the New Labour leader? 2 –...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • Performance-demonstration at Auckland’s High Court to demand justice for ...
    People outraged at the lack of justice in the so-called ‘Roast Busters’ case and 99% of other rape cases in this country are holding a visually powerful mass action at the Auckland High Court at 1 o’clock on Saturday. They...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • IES vote may weaken defense of public education
    PPTA announced today that secondary teachers have voted to include the IES (Investing in Education Success) as a variation to their collective employment agreement with the government. At one level it’s an understandable decision by PPTA members because through engaging in a consultation...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • NZ History lesson on Planet Key – the lies white people tell themselves
    John Key’s bizarre claims about our ‘peaceful history’ comes across like the apartheid history of South Africa where white people discovered Africa first… New Zealand ‘settled peacefully’ – PM New Zealand was “settled peacefully” by the British, the prime minister...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • Universal Basic Income and Labour Policy
    On Radio New Zealand’s None-to-Noon on Wednesday (19 November), new Labour leader Andrew Little intimated that he would like to put Universal Basic Income (UBI) on his policy agenda (What policy changes will Andrew Little usher in?) Predictably Kathryn Ryan, despite being...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • The New Notes : They Ain’t Mint
    Hulk Queen Angry. Hulk Queen smash.   Yesterday, the Reserve Bank announced its new designs for our banknotes. Now, I’ve historically been pretty sketch about this entire process; variously feeling affronted that the government could find eighty million dollars to fund a...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • MSM under-mining of new Labour Leader already begun?
    . . It did not take long. In fact, on the same day that Andrew Little won the Labour leadership*, the first media reporter was already asking if he would be stepping down  if Labour failed to lift in the...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Simon Buckingham – invisible disability voices
    Today I am ranting. The Disability Advisory Group has been announced by Auckland Council. This is the body that represents the interests and views of people with disabilities in Auckland. Whilst I would not have applied this time as I...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Andrew Little
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Andrew Little...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • Why labelling Little as a ‘Unionist’ is a joke and how he beats Key in ...
    The line being used to attack Andrew Little as a ‘Unionist’ is just an absurd joke, and it comes from people who clearly don’t understand the modern NZ Union movement. Andrew ran the EPM Bloody U, they are easily one...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • 5AA Australia – Labour’s New Leader + China’s President In New Zealan...
    Recorded on 20/11/14 – Captured Live on Ustream.tv. 5AA’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning.ISSUE ONE: The New Zealand Labour Party has elected its new leader, the vote going to a third round after no clear outright winner was found in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • Did Roger Sutton think he was running the Rock Radio Station?
    Visible G-String Fridays? Full body hugs? Jokes about who you would and wouldn’t have sex with? Honey? Sweety? It’s like Roger thought he was running the Rock Radio Station, not a Government Public Service department set up to rebuild a...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
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    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • Amnesty International – The conversation that needs to be had with China
    Caption: Police officer watching Hong Kong pro-democracy march, 01 July 2014 © Amnesty International    Yesterday’s edition of The New Zealand Herald features an open letter to all New Zealander’s from Xi Jinping, President of the People’s Republic of China. Along...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Patrick O’Dea – “Liar”
    LIAR! ‘Privatised social housing to benefit tenants’ English “Housing Corp was a poor performer and about a third of its housing stock was the wrong size, in poor condition and in the wrong place. That stock was worth about $5...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • Too Close For Comfort: Reflections on Andrew Little’s narrow victory over...
    THE TRAGIC SCREENSHOT of “Gracinda” in defeat bears eloquent testimony to the bitter disappointment of the Grant Robertson-led faction of the Labour Party. And, yes, ‘Party’ is the right word. The Robertson machine has now extended its influence well beyond...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • How to defeat child poverty
      How to defeat child poverty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Little’s Shadow Cabinet
    Now the horror of trying to pacify the factions begins. The only thing Little’s new shadow cabinet must do is create the pretence of unity. The reason voters didn’t flock to Labour wasn’t the bloody CGT or Superannuation, it was...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • A pilgrimage with my sister – Rethink the System
    We’ve both wanted to do a pilgrimage for many years. But, unlike many modern pilgrims, we wanted to be pilgirms in our own country and get closer to our communities, rather than seek greater distance from them. We are both...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Lack of policy ambition is Andrew Little’s main problem
    I’ve met Andrew Little a few times and he’s a pleasant man who will make a reasonable job leading what the Labour Party has become in recent decades. He will preside over a much less divided caucus and will be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Journos, film makers, media freedom advocates join Asia-Pacific political j...
    A candlelight vigil for the 58 victims of the 2009 Maguindanao massacre – 32 of them media people. Still no justice for them today. Renowned investigative journalists, film makers, academics and media freedom campaigners from across the Asia-Pacific region will...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • And the new Labour Leader is ZZZZZZZZZZ
    The victory lap by Caucus over the members choice of Cunliffe has ended and the new leader of the Labour Party is Andrew Little. Yawn. The dullness and caution of the latest Leadership race will be served well by Andrew,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Allow the Facts to Get in the Way of the Neolib Stories
    One of the weaknesses of the political left in New Zealand over the last 30 years has been to allow the neoliberal storytellers to get away with lots of fibs and half-fibs. On TVNZ’s Q+A on 16 November, in a...
    The Daily Blog | 17-11
  • Defending The Boomers: A Response to Chloe King
    THE BABY-BOOM GENERATION (49-68 year-olds) currently numbers just under a quarter of New Zealand’s population. Even so, there is a pervasive notion that the generation of New Zealanders born between the end of World War II and the mid-1960s exercises...
    The Daily Blog | 17-11
  • This weeks Waatea news column – Waitangi Tribunal ruling enshrines Treaty...
      This weeks Waatea news column – Waitangi Tribunal ruling enshrines Treaty as a living document...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Key now says SAS will be needed to protect ‘trainers’ behind the wire
    Well, well, well. What do we have here? Government could send SAS to Iraq New Zealand’s elite Special Air Service (SAS) could be deployed to Iraq to protect Kiwi troops sent to train local forces. Prime Minister John Key confirmed...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Do You Want to Build a Meth Lab? (Frozen x Breaking Bad Parody)
    Do You Want to Build a Meth Lab? (Frozen x Breaking Bad Parody)...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Soft soap for the rich – harsh taxes for the poor
    It’s no surprise to see New Zealand has one of the world’s lowest tax rates for the rich and the superrich. A survey by the global accounting network UHY shows New Zealand’s highest tax rates are lower than even Australia,...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Phillip Smith and the rehabilitation process
    The dominant media narrative in horrible murder cases is that the perpetrator is unlikely ever to be rehabilitated. When it appears the offender may get parole the media turns first to family members of the victim who commonly (and understandably)...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • The Nation review: Finlayson’s terrifying definition of who is on terror ...
    Terrifying Nation today on TV3. Chris Finlayson is on justifying the Government’s Muslim fear mongering and extension of even more surveillance powers. It was jaw dropping. Finlayson says ‘alienated people with a chip on their shoulder’ is the threshold to get...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • A brief word on The Block NZ
    Is it just me or did The Block manage to sum up everything that is wrong about our culture and economy? Fetishised property speculation as mass entertainment in a country of homelessness & poverty. I wonder if State House tenants...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • Waitangi Tribunal ruling
    That spluttering choking sound of a thousand rednecks being informed Maori still have sovereignty is a hilarious cacophony of stupid… Crown still in charge: Minister Chris Finlayson on Waitangi Treaty ruling The Waitangi Tribunal’s finding that Maori chiefs who signed...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • A brief word on Phillip Smith
    We can arrest student loan & fine defaulters at the airport – but not convicted child molesting killers? Before we ban manufactured ISIS ‘terrorists’ from having passports, how about we just manage to stop child molesting killers from fleeing first?...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • Free Me From Religion
          The meeting begins – or at least it’s supposed to begin – but someone interrupts proceedings. She wants everyone to pray with their heads bowed while she can “thank our Father who art in Heaven.” I close...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • Key capitulates on TPPA while big money NZ set up propaganda fund
    So Key has capitulated on the ‘gold standard’ of free trade deals… The primary objective for New Zealand at Apec was to see some urgency injected into the TPP talks and to keep leaders aiming for a high quality deal....
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Why Phillip Smith is the least of our worries
    Well, it turns out Phillip Smith wasn’t half as clever as he thought he was, and he’s been arrested within a week. If the Prime Minister is through with making tasteless jokes, perhaps we can ramp down the media hysteria...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Constraining Credibility
      Most economists and members of the public – on both the right and the left – believe that economies are constrained by resource scarcity most of the time. In this view, economies are supply-constrained, and that the economic problem...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Migrant Labour, exploitation and free markets
    Once more we read about a horror story of virtual slavery for a migrant worker in a restaurant in Christchurch. The silver lining that in this case compensation should be paid is not assured. Often in situations like this the employer winds up...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • On baby boomers who give my generation unhelpful advice: JUST DON’T
    One of my mum’s colleagues recently told her that there is no money in what her daughter was doing; volunteering at a women’s refuge and writing on politics. This guy, dispensing all his pearls of wisdom, told my mother that...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Morbid Symptoms: Can Labour Be Born Anew?
    THE CHAIRS in the final meeting venue have been stacked away. All that expensive signage, commissioned for the benefit of the television cameras, no longer has a purpose. For the second time in just 14 months, Labour’s Leadership Contest is...
    The Daily Blog | 12-11
  • What’s Small, White, and Having Trouble Attracting New People?
    If your answer was something intimately connected to the person of Peter Dunne … then you’d be right. Last night, P-Dunney decided to bring his comedy and/or hair stylings to the twitterverse; penning a potentially somewhat ill-advised tweet in which he compared...
    The Daily Blog | 12-11
  • LATE at the Auckland Museum review – Slacktivisim: Its not just for Slack...
    Monday night is my yoga night. I’m not really very good it, I don’t really have the bendy, but I made a New Years resolution. This Monday however, I decided to put the yoga on prone and attend a gig...
    The Daily Blog | 12-11
  • Domestic violence problem bigger than Sky Tower
    Domestic violence problem bigger than Sky Tower SKYCITY’s Sky Tower in Auckland will be lit up in white on Monday evening Nov 25th at 10pm, on the eve of White Ribbon Day. The anti-domestic violence network SAFTINET (Safer Auckland Families...
    Scoop politics | 23-11
  • State Services Commissioner ‘unfit for the job’ says Little
    State Services Commissioner ‘unfit for the job’ says Little The new Labour leader Andrew Little has called for the State Services Commissioner Iain Rennie to be stood down after his handling of the Roger Sutton sexual harassment case. "The idea...
    Scoop politics | 23-11
  • Patrick Gower interviews Laila Harre
    Patrick Gower interviews Laila Harre Headlines: Laila Harre to quit as Internet Party leader by Christmas when the party has completed its review, but would love to return to parliament Says party considering options for its future including winding...
    Scoop politics | 22-11
  • Lisa Owen interviews Labour leader Andrew Little
    Lisa Owen interviews Labour leader Andrew Little Headlines: Andrew Little says the shape of his front-bench for the 2017 election may not be clear until the end of next year Indicates next week’s appointments may be temporary: “So I may...
    Scoop politics | 22-11
  • Phillip John Smith – statement
    Police and the New Zealand Embassy in Brasilia are aware of a decision from the Brazil Federal Court requiring the deportation of Phillip Smith within 10 days. Further assessment is required to ensure there is a full understanding of this...
    Scoop politics | 22-11
  • Green’s ‘not speaking out about human rights abuses in China
    Right to Life challenges Russell Norman the co-leader of the Green Party to explain why, he was prepared to ask Prime Minister John Key to talk to Chinese President Xi Jinping about human rights abuses in countries bordering China but...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Goodfellow congratulates Key on IDU election
    Goodfellow congratulates Key on IDU election National Party President Peter Goodfellow has congratulated Prime Minister John Key on his election today as Chairman of the International Democrat Union (IDU)....
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Taxpayers’ Union Congratulates PM on IDU Appointment
    The Taxpayers’ Union is today congratulating Rt. Hon. John Key on becoming the Chair of the International Democrat Union , as former Australian Prime Minister John Howard retires from the role after 12 years. Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • High demand for Consumer NZ’s “Do Not Knock” stickers
    Consumer NZ has distributed nearly 100,000 “Do Not Knock” stickers since the launch of its campaign to fight back against dodgy door-to-door sellers.The “Do Not Knock” campaign was launched on 3 November 2014. Free “Do Not Knock” stickers...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Phillip Smith decision still pending
    Detective Superintendent Mike Pannett is returning to Washington DC where he will continue to closely monitor a pending decision from the Brazilian authorities on the process to return Phillip Smith to New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • High Court demonstration to demand justice
    People outraged at the lack of justice in the so-called ‘Roast Busters’ case and 99% of other rape cases in this country are holding a visually powerful mass action at the Auckland High Court at 1 o’clock on Saturday. They...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • NZ Society Wins Global Award For Fighting Animal Testing
    New Zealand banning animal testing of legal highs has been acknowledged with an award given in London. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) was awarded the 2014 LUSH Prize for lobbying against animal testing. The prize was given at the...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Poor govt advice to workers on petrol station drive-offs
    The New Zealand Council of Trade Unions has raised concerns with the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment ('MBIE') regarding their reported advice to workers about the petrol station drive away issue....
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • New Ombudsman opinion
    The Ombudsman has published his opinion on a complaint concerning the Police refusal to release information about a charging decision....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Kindergarten support staff achieve pay rise in tough climate
    The valuable contribution of kindergarten support staff has been recognised with a pay increase, despite the significant funding cuts that the kindergarten associations are experiencing....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Democracy and Conservative Religion: The Case of Islam
    “Is Islam compatible with democracy?” is a frequently-asked question. Recent rethinking of secularism and democracy have opened up new possibilities to think about religion and democracy. This question is important particularly in the case...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • NZ fiscal watchdog needed to guard the public purse
    New Zealand needs tighter fiscal rules and an independent watchdog to improve the quality of government spending and reduce the risk of a return to deficit spending as the country’s population ages, if not before....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • NZSMI disappointed ANZTPA proposal shelved
    November 20, 2014: Consumer healthcare products industry body, the New Zealand Self-Medication Industry Association (SMI) says it is disappointed Government has once again shelved plans to create one medicines regulatory agency for both New Zealand and Australia....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Democracy Action Welcomes Tauranga Vote
    Responding to Tauranga Council’s unanimous vote not to establish separate Council seats on the basis of ethnicity, Lee Short, Democracy Action founder says: “The establishment of a Maori ward would have damaged the relationship between Maori and...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Employer caught abusing new ‘teabreaks law’
    Employer caught abusing new ‘teabreaks law’ to exploit workers The government passed the controversial ‘teabreaks’ legislation only a few weeks ago and already Unite Union has caught an employer using this law as an excuse for ill-treating their...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • FGC response to Commerce Commission report
    The New Zealand Food & Grocery Council is not surprised by the Commerce Commission’s findings, given New Zealand’s current legal framework....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Bascand: Brighter Money
    Seeing people’s initial reactions to the new banknote designs is a heartening reminder of what an important role currency plays in our lives, and what a sense of pride and heritage our notes evoke....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • RBNZ releases Brighter Money designs
    New Zealand’s banknotes are getting brighter and better, with the Reserve Bank today unveiling more vibrant and secure banknote designs which will progressively enter circulation later next year....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • 25 years of children’s rights
    UNICEF and OFC celebrate 25 years of children’s rights with Just Play Sports Days On Universal Children’s Day (20 November) and as part of the Oceania Football Confederation’s (OFC) inaugural President’s Cup, UNICEF will celebrate 25 years of children’s...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Xiamen delegation to Wellington has business focus
    Stronger business, education and cultural ties with our Chinese partners will be the focus when a 20-strong government and business delegation led by Xiamen Mayor Mr Liu Keqing which visits Wellington tomorrow (Friday) and Saturday as part of the...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Warriors promote White Ribbon Day message
    Warriors promote White Ribbon Day message Shine and Orakei Health Services On Tuesday, the Vodafone Warriors will promote the White Ribbon Day message to the community at Eastridge Shopping Centre, Mission Bay. The Warriors are supporting their charity...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Superannuitants to protest unethical investments
    A delegation of Auckland superannuitants will deliver a protest-card petition and protest letter to the New Zealand Super Fund this Thursday afternoon to call on the fund to divest from companies which support the Israeli occupation of Palestinian...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Manukau job cuts ‘running the place into the ground’
    Manukau Institute of Technology (MIT) confirmed to its staff yesterday that 54 jobs will go before Christmas....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Newcore Looks Pretty Rotten for Ratepayers
    Responding to the NZ Herald report that the IT system commissioned by Auckland Council to consolidate the eight systems the Super City inherited from its precursor councils could be facing a budget blowout of $100 million, Taxpayers’ Union Spokesman Ben...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Accountability following quake response inquiry not achieved
    Lessons still need to be learned from the search and rescue efforts following the February 2011 earthquake in Christchurch, a leading New Zealand lawyer, Nigel Hampton QC, says....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Our kids say: We are failing in our duty to protect them
    Our kids say: We are failing in our duty to protect them More than a quarter of Kiwi kids say children’s right to be safe and protected isn’t being upheld in New Zealand, identifying protection from violence, abuse and murder...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • PARS & Turuki Health Care collaborate on health and services
    Auckland-based PARS (People at Risk Solutions) have partnered with the Turuki Health Care Trust, to offer improved healthcare services to those in need. PARS works closely with former prisoners, providing mentoring, housing, and social services to ensure...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Children’s Plea
    A plea has been sent to all Members of Parliament, regardless of party affiliation, to accord urgency and priority to children's issues. These issues include vulnerability, safety and childhood poverty....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Treasury off track in search for sound policies
    Treasury is unlikely to find the ideas it is looking for to improve outcomes for children while its primary driver is cost-cutting, says Child Poverty Action Group....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Commission calls for answers on handling of CERA harassment
    EEO Commissioner Dr Jackie Blue is deeply concerned about the way in which the State Services Commission has handled sexual allegations made against CERA chief executive Roger Sutton this week and is calling for answers....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Ashley Dwayne Guy v The Queen: Appeal Upheld
    The appellant, Mr Guy, was found guilty by a jury of a charge of sexual violation by unlawful sexual connection. After the verdict it was discovered that, by error, the jury had been provided in the jury room with two...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Zonta Club to Take a Stand Against Gender-Based Violence
    During the 16 Days of Activism against Gender Violence (25 November – 10 December), the Zonta Club of Wellington, along with members of the local community, will join nearly 1,200 Zonta clubs in 67 countries for the Zonta Says NO...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • New UNFPA report links progress and power to young people
    A UN report launched today calls for investment in young people as they are essential to social and economic progress....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • The Resignation with the Golden Handshake?
    Commenting on the settlement the State Services Commission has reached with former CERA CEO Roger Sutton, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director, Jordan Williams, says: "Only in the public sector do you receive a payout for ‘resigning’....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • NZ must not turn a blind eye to China’s human rights record
    Amnesty International is calling on New Zealand’s Prime Minister John Key to raise China’s shameful human rights record during President Xi Jinping’s visit to New Zealand this week....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • The Resignation with the Golden Handshake?
    Commenting on the settlement the State Services Commission has reached with former CERA CEO Roger Sutton, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director, Jordan Williams, says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Treasury’s covert & extremely odd welfare consultation
    A report this morning that Treasury is ‘crowd sourcing’ ideas on welfare policy is news to Auckland Action Against Poverty, even though we are currently one of the most active groups in the area....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • NZ invites Pacific peers to review development cooperation
    New Zealand has volunteered to be the first development partner in the Pacific region to undergo a review of its aid programme by Pacific island peers. The review will focus on New Zealand’s development cooperation and will give greater insight...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • EPMU joins Pike River families to mark fourth anniversary
    Representatives of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union are proud to stand with the Pike River families to mark four years since 29 men lost their lives. “This is a particularly solemn day given the recent announcements of Solid Energy...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • 2013 Assessment of New Zealand’s National Integrity Systems
    SPEAKER TUILOMA NERONI SLADE: Former Judge, International Criminal Court in the Hague, former legal counsel at the Commonwealth Secretariat, Secretary-General of the Pacific Islands Forum 2008-2014. Introduced by Helen Sutch, Victoria University Council,...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Green Party ignoring Waimea’s environmental benefits
    Green Party MP Catherine Delahunty has overlooked the environmental benefits the proposed Waimea Community Dam will bring the Tasman community, says IrrigationNZ Chairperson Nicky Hyslop....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Women’s use of violence in violent relationships
    More than 80 percent of women who live with a physically violent partner will not initiate violence when they are not being hit, according to new research....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Poor credit rating linked to poor cardiovascular health
    Poor credit rating linked to poor cardiovascular health A credit score doesn’t only boil down a person’s entire financial history to a single number and somehow predict their credit-worthiness, it might also be saying something about a person’s...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • State Services Commissioner on Roger Sutton Investigation
    State Services Commissioner Iain Rennie today said the investigation into Roger Sutton’s conduct was robust. Roger Sutton chose to resign as Chief Executive of the Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Authority (CERA) yesterday....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Predator Free NZ project welcomed
    Federated Farmers and the conservation organisation Forest & Bird are welcoming the Predator Free New Zealand initiative as an ambitious but achievable project that will have real benefits for conservation and the economy....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
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