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The puppet party, the Mega party and the pro assault party

Written By: - Date published: 9:30 am, January 12th, 2014 - 201 comments
Categories: act, conservative party, john key, national, rodney hide, same old national, Steven Joyce - Tags:

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There are three interesting stories in the media this morning each of which have implications for this year’s election.

Firstly the SST is reporting that there will be a push to put the anti smacking law (or as I prefer to call it the anti child brutalising law) back on the political agenda this year. Apparently there is a groundswell of opposition to the thousands of ordinary kiwi parents being imprisoned for delivering the lightest of physical admonishments to their children. There is also the reality that the law change is causing a positive attitudinal change and that the number of prosecutions are very small and the punishments are light but since when has reality got in the way of conservative belligerence? If only these people were as upset about child poverty …

The second story is about how the real chief of the ACT party, Steven Joyce, visited Rodney Hide to see if he would stand again for the Epsom seat. Rodney has stated that he will not stand. This particular piece of news shows beyond doubt that ACT is a puppet party controlled by National. New Zealand they are twisting electoral rules to gain an unfair advantage.

The third story may be the most significant, Kim Dotcom is said to be planning the launch of his own political party this month. I have mixed views about this. Although it would be very pleasing to see Dotcom confront John Key on the campaign trail, and although I find it hard to believe that someone as interested in meeting local famous people as Dotcom would not have met Key before the raid on Dotcom’s house, I am afraid that he may maroon some protest votes in a party that will not make the threshold and perversely may help National. And although I am sure that his policies on freedom would be sound I am not so sure that his business policies would provide the necessary oversight required. After all he is a German entrepreneur with a dislike of any sorts of restrictions.

It is shaping up to being an interesting year …

201 comments on “The puppet party, the Mega party and the pro assault party”

  1. RedBaronCV 1

    The kiddie bashers want to ride again. What a policy plank?! Hitting people smaller than yourself. Most police involvement has been when concerned bystanders have reported the matter..

    • Murray Olsen 1.1

      The police have always been quite adept at hitting people smaller than themselves. They could set an example and start treating our kids decently themselves.

  2. RedBaronCV 2

    BTW – there are billboards up for the conservatives around Wellington already. Does this eat into election spending limits or should Labour, the Greens, Mana etc do this piece of brand awareness(awful term) as well.

    • Paul 2.1

      Interesting that the Dominion Post chose to make this news.
      Only CC and his nut bar party would benefit from this being an election issue.
      Are there connections between the powers that be and the editors there?
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9600491/Smacking-debate-back-in-the-limelight

      • Murray Olsen 2.1.1

        Great that Colin Craig can paint his supporters as people who break the law in private and Key still wants a coalition with him, but I suppose it’s no different from ACT. The number of their MPs that broke laws and behaved unethically was pretty high.

    • lprent 2.2

      Because of the self-serving changes that National put into the replacement Electoral Finance Act back in 2009, they are not.

      The electoral period that political parties have to disclose their expenditure for is limited to something strange and miniscule like 90 days from an election.

      Of course as you have observed, our actual electoral period since about 1999 has in reality been something like 12 months. These days National’s sockpuppet parties tend to awaken just before xmas and campaign for the whole year.

      For that matter so do the major parties according to their budgets. For instance with National trying to talk up the economy. The Greens and Labour tend to be more constrained.

  3. Craig Y 3

    I move that we should label such fundamentalist enthusiasts for corporal punishment ‘sado-maso-Christians!’

  4. Anne 4

    From the linked article:

    Where the government is supposed to serve us the people, we are paying with our taxes that they do a good job for us. But look what they do, they undermine our rights, they destroy our freedoms, they censor our internet, so we are the ones who have to bring that change,” Dotcom said in a documentary by international magazine Vice, released last week.

    “That is why I get involved in politics because I am f . . .ing tired of this nonsense and someone has to stand up and change this,” he said.

    You can’t blame Kim Dotcom for feeling this way, but where does he stand on the NZ political spectrum? Some say he’s Libertarian. Maybe. Bryce Edwards claims he isn’t likely to support the Labour/Green parties. Why? It’s Labour and the Greens who have consistently called out the government on the nonsense he’s so f….ing tired of. He’s stood on various platforms with them over the self-same issues. I’m not suggesting he will openly support them, but he may well be prepared to come to a pre-election arrangement with them. After all, he has a much better chance of getting the changes he wants to see under a centre-left coalition government.

    • Colonial Viper 4.1

      New Max Keiser interview with Dotcom; from 12 minutes in.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1bDMfRfsrw

      He’s not keen on the way big corporations and US politicians work together. His views on internet freedom are very necessary to push back against totalitarian govt surveillance – and he has the team and the resources to actually do something about it.

    • veutoviper 4.2

      It will be interesting to see the details of the Dotcom (political) party, but it seems we only have another week to wait. Presumably he will unveil some detail at his big party in Auckland on Jan 20 – his birthday and the anniversary of the raid.

      In a tweet this morning he said ” My party will activate non-voters, youth and the internet electorate. We are going to make politics exciting, More on January 20th.” And in another tweet this morning “Get ready for low blows and smears against me and my political party. My attackers are worried. They should be. We will get more than 5%.”

      Re Bryce Edwards’ claims that KDC isn’t likely to support the Labour/Green parties, I agree with your comments. In fact, KDC has had some complimentary things to say in tweets over the last year on Cunliffe and has retweeted a number of his speechs. While KDC may have become mega rich, his childhood does not appear to have been a wealthy one, so he may not be as blind to things like child poverty etc as some may think.

      • veutoviper 4.2.1

        Since submitting the above comment, I have re-watched the video of the GCSB Public meeting on Aug 19, 2013, which Molly linked to in her comment on OM earlier this morning http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-12012014/#comment-756198

        It was well worthwhile seeing it again (thanks Molly) and watching KDC’s very positive reaction to Russel Norman’s speech – particularly KDC’s actions at the end of the speech.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9IdfvurCtk#t=4395

        So,IMO there may well be cooperation/support from KDC and his party to the Labour/Green parties.

        • Colonial Viper 4.2.1.1

          Dotcom is not going to be left wing in the classic sense of the term. But he will fight hard against govt/corporate locking down of innovation, use of patents and copyright as tools of rentier capitalism, fascist law enforcement actions against weak players on behalf of major corporate interests, totalitarian surveillance and control of the internet, etc.

          • veutoviper 4.2.1.1.1

            Agreed, CV. That will be his focus, and thanks for the link to the Max Keiser interview which I have just watched. Was well worthwhile – even if it meant me again procrastinating about going out and mowing the lawns (more like a paddock at present!)

            But if KDC can work alongside Labour and the Greens etc, that would be good. While he donated to Banks, I wonder whether that was more of a personal ‘friend’ thing at the time, rather than ideological support. I certainly don’t see him ‘getting into bed’ with National any time in the near future!

            • Colonial Viper 4.2.1.1.1.1

              That will be his focus, and thanks for the link to the Max Keiser interview which I have just watched.

              I think everyone should have a “work bed” like Kim Dotcom did the interview from…

    • weka 4.3

      I don’t see KDC as being on the political left. He wants freedom but I don’t see any ethics around fairness or looking after everyone. The man donated money to John Banks, just saying.

      He could split votes in some electorates. He’s likely to pick up votes that would otherwise go to the GP or even Labour (including some of the previous non-vote). Might do the same to ACT of course and National. But if he becomes kingmaker, is there not the possibility that he would go with National if he got what he wanted re IT, privacy and security?

      Micky,

      “I am afraid that he may maroon some protest votes in a party that will not make the threshold and perversely may help National.”

      I can never remember how that works. Don’t the votes of under the threshold parties get redistributed somehow?

      • Bearded Git 4.3.1

        No the votes under the 5% threshold are totally wasted votes unless the party gets an electorate MP.

        • Craig Y 4.3.1.1

          Or unless you vote for the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party, thereby sabotaging the electoral status of the Greens and you’re a single-issue purist pothead. Oops-wrong form of ‘absolutely wasted.’

          • phillip ure 4.3.1.1.1

            alcp give every appearance of being an election scam..

            ..they stick their hand out for some of that lovely election-money..

            ..they splash that around..

            ..canniblise a few green votes..

            ..and then they disappear for another three years..

            ..you never hear a peep from them between elections..

            ..as useless as a wet box of matches during a lighter-crisis..

            ..as far as fighting to end prohibition..

            ..that lot..

            ..should be called the aotearoa loot cash party..

            ..phillip ure..

      • fisiani 4.3.2

        Yes the votes do get redistibuted to the parties who do meet the threshold. A Mega party getting 4% of the vote would give National approximately 47% of 4% ie 1.9% taking them effectively to 48.9%

    • Murray Olsen 4.4

      I have never seen anything from Bryce Edwards that I felt should be taken seriously. He really gives the impression he has no idea what he’s talking about and is not much more than a stamp collector.

      • Paul 4.4.1

        Edwards is a careerist who says what he needs to to rise the greasy pole.
        His Herald review is exactly that …stamp collecting.
        Phil Ure’s reviews are way better!

  5. Sabine Ford 5

    it is in the conservative mindset that the man is head of the house and that wife and children should be submissive. It is the fathers right to control both, wife and children, and sometimes smacking is obviously the only way to enforce obedience….this is not new.
    Why would anyone think that the NZ conservative mindset is in anyway different. Next on the agenda, abortion, birth control etc. See the Tea Party in the States.

    As for being a german entrepreneur….worse things could happen, and as for regulations, business, really any business does not like regulations. What do you think the TPP is all about. Surely not about creating jobs that pay more then the minimum wage.

    However, I would like to know what Labour is going to roll out for the election? How will labour tackle unemployment, under employment, low wages that need to be subsidized by welfare, affordable and healthy housing (rental and ownership), crumbling infrastructure?

    If we want peeps to vote for Labour, Labour will need to at least address the issues that most peeps affect, not just point finger.

    I will vote for the greens, and only if I fear that national will kick in again, will I hold my nose and vote Labour. And this is quite sad.

    • QoT 5.1

      I don’t know how openly the Conservatives would attack abortion/birth control, just because right now we have a very restrictive abortion regime – one which a hell of a lot of people disagree with but don’t want to rock the boat over. In my experience, when you inform people about the current situation in NZ, they’re firstly shocked that abortion isn’t actually legal, and secondly agree that it should be liberalised, if only a little.

      On the other hand, I wouldn’t have thought raising the disciplining-your-kids-through-physical-violence issue would be a winner, either. It’s not like there are any good stories to point to and say “look, this Good Hardworking Father was sent to prison For Ten Years for one light smack!” to rally the pro-smackers around.

      • Brett Dale 5.1.1

        QOT:

        The conservative party will be the nail in the coffin for Gay Rights, if they get in and get a few seats and become a coalition party who’s in power, it will be a huge disaster for this country.

        The last thing we want for this country, is a religious right.

        • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 5.1.1.1

          Welcome to Australia 2014.

          http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-11/curriculum-critic-wants-more-religion-to-be-taught-in-schools/5195410

          There should be more religious education in Australian schools, says one of the men tasked with reviewing the national curriculum.

          Former teacher and ex-Liberal Party staffer Kevin Donnelly says Australian education has become too secular, and the federation’s Judeo-Christian heritage should be better reflected in the curriculum.

        • millsy 5.1.1.2

          It wont be just Gay Rights, Brett. It will be the rights and freedoms of those who wish to pursue arragements outside what is regarded as the “traditional nuclear family”.

        • QoT 5.1.1.3

          The conservative party will be the nail in the coffin for Gay Rights

          I don’t think you understand how the phrase “final nail in the coffin” works, Brett. For a start, the thing in the coffin has to be something which is practically dead. Rights for same-sex couples are clearly not practically dead. In fact, after the utter victory of marriage equality last year, they’re not even being questioned.

          Also, I don’t think your reply actually has anything to do with my comment, so maybe some work on following-a-conversation-properly would be in order.

          • BM 5.1.1.3.1

            I agree.

            The hysteria shown by the two gay chaps above seem rather disproportionately out of whack to reality.

            It’s 2014 lads, not 1814, no one cares what gays people get up to, I’d bet money Colin Craig doesn’t particularly care either.

            Slightly more important stuff to deal with than what two or more people of the same sex get up to in the privacy of their own homes.

            • QoT 5.1.1.3.1.1

              No, I don’t think you’re agreeing with me at all there, BM. I certainly don’t agree with you.

              But it does seem that you are quite invested in what other people are getting up to in the privacy of their own homes.

              • BM

                You think straight people care what gay people get up to?.

                Hate to burst your bubble, but apart from a few extremist nut bars, no one gives a shit.

                Gays are just like everyone else.

            • Brett Dale 5.1.1.3.1.2

              BM

              Actually people like Colin Craig do care,and a ton of right wingers do care, the hatred they have for gay people are sickening. If Craig really didnt care, why would he bring it up?

              The last thing we want is people like him in Parliament.

          • Craig Y 5.1.1.3.2

            Not if I get my hands on a metaphorical nail gun first and nail him down when it comes to his unpalatable religious social conservative views first :)

          • Brett Dale 5.1.1.3.3

            Yo commented on the conservative party, and believe me that would be their main goal. Go after gay marriage, gay adoption, the rest will be on the back burner, things like “Ya can hit ya kids” are just a red herring. This guy is extremely homophobic, and I would say dangerous.

            Oh, I also didnt know a conversation had rules?

      • Colonial Viper 5.1.2

        I don’t know how openly the Conservatives would attack abortion/birth control, just because right now we have a very restrictive abortion regime

        14,745 abortions carried out in 2012. One of the lowest counts for many years according to Stats NZ website.

    • Draco T Bastard 5.2

      I will vote for the greens, and only if I fear that national will kick in again, will I hold my nose and vote Labour.

      I think you’ll find that the Greens are now a permanent member of parliament and so that reasoning doesn’t apply.

      • mac1 5.2.1

        Your comment “you’ll find that the Greens are now a permanent member of parliament’ is presumably over the next one or two elections, Draco T? The historian in me balked at it.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_New_Zealand

        There have been twenty parties represented in the NZ Parliament which no longer exist. Christian Democrats 1995-98, Christian Heritage 1999, Country 1928-38, Democratic Labour 1940-43, Future NZ 1994-5, Independent Political Labour League 1908-10, Labour (the original) 1910-12, Liberal 1991-27, Liberal 1992, Mana Wahine 98-99, Mauri Pacific 1999, New Labour 1989-91, Pacific 2008, Progressive 2001-11, Reform 1909-36, Social Credit 1966-69 and 1979-87, Social Democratic 1913-16, Socialist ?-1913, United NZ 1995-2000, United Labour 1912-13, United 1927-36.

        What chance that United Future, Maori, Mana, and ACT join this list very soon? (There have been, by the way, 50 parties which never had MPs.)

        Currently there are 8 parties in parliament and another five unrepresented registered parties.

        We have MPs now in office with National 1935-2014, Labour 1916-2014, Green 1996-2014, NZ First 1993-2014, Maori 2004-2014, ACT 1996-2014, Mana 2011-2014 United Future 2002-2014.

        Interesting to look at all this from a historical perspective as to permanence……………. only two have celebrated 21 years in office.

        • Draco T Bastard 5.2.1.1

          The Greens are still gaining in strength and I don’t think that they’ll drop below the threshold again. Of course, it may happen in some distant future but I don’t believe it will happen in the foreseeable future.

          BTW, you should probably trace some of those parties that no longer exist through their name changes and mergers. Once you’ve done that I think you’ll find that a few of them still do exist.

          • mac1 5.2.1.1.1

            I agree, of course, with your first paragraph. I do hope the Greens survive and thrive.

            Your second statement would depend on the meaning of ‘existence’, which philosophically is a rather large topic! I did trace their ancestry btw. However, even the Greens are not the old Values party. I remember their 1972 manifest plank of a basic living wage for all, which is now being discussed again on the Standard as worthy of revisiting.

          • dave 5.2.1.1.2

            i think the greens have a hardcore 9-10 percent cunliffe factor is affecting there vote labour had weak leadership for a long time now they have a leader with super left appeal just look at the membership numbers they have rocketed they will have more volenteers this year than all the other parties combined which is proble a good thing to get the vote out. greens need work hard to keep there vote as will mana because i think labour are going to be vacuming up the votes this year again the cunliffe factor at work and that huge activist base.
            it will be intresting if cunliffe make a move and invites the norman to the labour party congress this year i can see norman getting economic delevlopment.

    • Craig Y 5.3

      Absolutely right about Colin Craig’s threat to women’s reproductive freedom, Sabine. Have you read Gordon Campbell’s interview with him in Werewolf’s December 2013 edition? If so, you should. He’s talking about attacking teenagers access to abortion if people are foolish enough to vote for him…

      http://www.werewolf.co.nz

  6. dotcom could well be ‘the’ story of this campaign..

    ..tho’ i agree going on events to date his personal politics are unknown/murky..

    ..should he breach 5%..i really can’t see him going into govt with his current mortal enemy..key..

    ..eh..?

    ..and just his announcement should put cunnliffe/labour/greens/mana on notice that they had better come up with some seachange-policies in a range of areas..

    ..’cos dotcom will..

    ..and i would bet they will be policies drenched in populist-appeal..

    ..and as just one policy that will garner a lot of that 800,000 labour purports to court..(but from a distance)..

    ..i am picking he will brush aside the other parties scared/tentative-policies..and call for full legalisation/regulation/taxation of cannabis..(argued on economic/citing colorado grounds..)

    ..he will come up with an innovative idea/plan to clean up our waterways..

    ..these are just two examples of policies that will strike a nerve with many people..(esp those 800,00 currently totally cynical/disillusioned about politics ever having a role in making their lives better..

    ..in fact..nine years of neo-lib/uncaring labour ..just confirmed that cynicisim..(hey..!..it did in me..!..)

    ..dotacom will be casting his net wide..

    ..and will ignore the current party ideological-parameters..

    ..and tho’ like all the political-pundits..i am just stabbing in the dark..(but admitting it..unlike say..mccarten in the access-media today..with his stern election-predictions..where dotcom doesn’t rate a mention..despite his party already heralded..w.t.f. was with that..?..)

    ..i think dotcom is smart enough to know that yes..he can harvest votes from all the current parties..(.if he can seize the public-imagination..)

    ..but that his biggest pool is those 800 thousand disaffected..

    ..and as a new/fresh face/party…with the right policies..(and ..no..i don’t see some far-right/libertarian dreamscape as what dotcom will be pushing..)

    ..dotcom has the best chance of getting them off the couch..and voting for him..

    ..and him being a kingmaker after the next election..

    ..fascinating..

    ..and clearly..all the pundits’ previous prognostications are ‘off’

    ..eh..?..

    ..it’s all on..

    ,.and as a political-junkie/one writing/banging-on about this stuff..

    ..i ain’t displeased about that..

    phillip ure..

    • BM 6.1

      He’ll get extradited in April, thus killing the mega party.

    • veutoviper 6.2

      While I agree with a lot of your comments, I doubt that KDC will touch the cannabis issue, PU. He apparently does not touch alcohol or drugs. Big milk drinker!

      • phillip ure 6.2.1

        veuto..even non-users can see the madness/huge-costs that is prohibition..

        ..i am not insinuating he is pothead..i couldn’t care less..one way or the other..

        ..this is an argument that can be made purely on sane/rational economic-grounds..

        ..(and/but he really does need to get off that cancer-causing milk..whoar..!..

        ..go vegan..!..dotcom..!..

        ..use almond-milk as yr methadone..until the withdrawals pass..)

        phillip ure..

        • veutoviper 6.2.1.1

          LOL. I have a high intolerance to diary fat, but cannot stand rice or soy milk. Haven’t tried almond milk, but like coconut milk. Is almond milk readily available, and is it very expensive?

          • phillip ure 6.2.1.1.1

            yes to both on almond milk..v. nice..!

            ..you can also make yr own..even better/cheaper..

            (..asking the all-seeing eye should see you right for how-to’s..

            ..first step:..catch yr almonds..)

            ..and isn’t rice-milk particularly vile..?

            ..like badly-flavoured water..(shudder..!..)

            phillip ure..

            • greywarbler 6.2.1.1.1.1

              phillip u
              Rice milk,must be near to what they made starch from. Feed it to the troops so they stiffen up, stand straight etc. Good stuff for Labour, get all sticking together, no wilting in the tournament.

          • Draco T Bastard 6.2.1.1.2

            I have a high intolerance to diary fat, but cannot stand rice or soy milk.

            And I’m the exact opposite. Always hated cow milk. Can’t even stand it in my coffee these days.

            • veutoviper 6.2.1.1.2.1

              I never particularly liked full cream cow’s milk, either, so its no great loss to have to avoid it. I also have very bad memories of school milk left to go sour in the sun!

          • Colonial Viper 6.2.1.1.3

            I find it really difficult to understand how most of those things can be described as “milk” tbh.

            • weka 6.2.1.1.3.1

              They can’t. Technically milk comes from mammals. They’re promoted as milk substitutes but they’re not really. Ones you buy are highly processed foods that only represent milk in terms of how they look superficially. They don’t taste like milk, they have a different consistency, and their nutritional content is completely different. I don’t like milk myself, so I just don’t drink it (although I find raw milk is yummy and agrees with me better).

              Commercial milk susbstitutes are usually very sweet, far sweeter than milk. I’m guessing this is intentional (to make them taste better). They strike me as about as healthy as commercial fruit juice (that is, not very when eaten daily).

              And don’t get me started on the health problems associated with soy ;-)

              Or the environmental issues of milk substitutes.

              • Colonial Viper

                Thanks for that. I think your comments confirm exactly my feelings about these highly processed materials blended in with water and then being sold as food.

              • Draco T Bastard

                Commercial milk susbstitutes are usually very sweet, far sweeter than milk.

                That depends upon which one you get.

                They strike me as about as healthy as commercial fruit juice (that is, not very when eaten daily).

                That depends as well. Fruit juice that has no added sugar is no better nor worse for you than the fruit itself. Yes, it still has a lot of sugar in it but, then, so does fruit.

                • weka

                  A whole apple has nutrients in it that a glass of its juice doesn’t.

                  An apple picked off the tree outside, is a different food than a glass of juice from apples processed commercially.

                  One issue with commercial fruit juices is that they provide an easily accessible form of concentrated sugars. For people that already have too many refined carbohydrates in their diet, that’s not the best. Better than coke, not better than whole fruit. It’s all relative.

                  • veutoviper

                    I agree that most commercial fruit juices have additives including extra sugar, although there are a few that don’t. As you say, whole fruit are much better as they also have the benefits of the fibre, which fruit juice doen’t.

                  • Lanthanide

                    Orange juice has more sugar in it than coke.

              • karol

                I don’t like milk. I us a small amount of almond milk (unsweetened) when I need a liquid alterative for milk to mix into other ingredients. I have never drunk milk or put milk in my coffee or tea, so I don’t require a substitute for it for drinking.

                PS: I’m OK with yoghurt & consume more plain unsweetened yogurt than almond milk.

                And I agree on problems with soya – can do nasty things to my guts/indigestion.

        • phillip ure 6.2.1.2

          dotcom should hire me as a consultant..

          ..if he followed what i would advise..

          ..i would have him off his meds in three months..

          ..and feeling like a million dollars..

          ..phillip ure..

    • as an update/aside…dotcom arguing against his own personal interests..

      ..and for a higher tax rate on the richest..(‘to pay for what need to be done/fixed’..)

      ..would be a brilliant/credibility-enhancing tactical move on his part..

      ..and could well garner him 5% in its’ own right..

      ..eh..?

      ..but as with all other parties..and for the first time in living memory..

      ..it will be policies that will drive voters’ decisions..(esp. on left/soft-centre..)

      ..and all parties had better be aware of that..

      ..they will ignore that ‘new’ fact/reality..to their peril..

      phillip ure..

    • Bearded Git 6.4

      Yeah PU, McCarten is usually a good read in the HOS, but today he was rubbish.

    • Stuart Munro 6.5

      I think Kim Dotcom’s instincts are web libertarian – but he never courted the banksters. He expected he might have to do so settling in NZ, but John Banks let him down badly.

      The thing is neither ACT nor the Gnats were ever remotely progressive, but Dotcom is. He is on good terms with Green leadership, they tweet mutual support.

      A smart progressive party would seize him to consult on tech policy, but even as an independent he would represent the virtues that people criticise Colin Craig for lacking. His is smart, creative, innovative and well-informed. He also likes people, was throwing parties long before he got backstabbed.

      Making him an enemy was one of the biggest mistakes Key ever made, and because of it Kim Dotcom is ready to lead on freedom and privacy issues that people without skin in the game might have allowed to slide. He’s a better man than Key, and in any conflict that disparity gives him an enormous advantage.

      I welcome his presence in New Zealand politics. He narrows the country’s greatest political deficit: talent.

      • Anne 6.5.1

        Couldn’t agree more Stuart Munro.

        Glad to hear he’s on good terms with the Greens and, as far as I know, he’s on good terms with Cunliffe too.

        Making him an enemy was one of the biggest mistakes Key ever made..

        Oh the irony! Couldn’t wait to get into bed with the FBI and the Hollywood moguls “cos I want to be identified with them” and he turns someone who is rapidly becoming one of our most influential personalities. Love it.

      • Tracey 6.5.2

        isnt there the potential problem that he may have broken laws, flagrantly? Or has he successfully nullified that by his campaign to paint himself as the victim?

        I am not sure what the reality is, whether he is criminal or internet freedom fighter, just throwing it out there.

  7. Shorts 7

    Wot… No mention of the Civilian Party?

  8. ianmac 8

    Kim cannot stand as an MP because he is not a NZ Citizen. But as a political leader he could certainly wobble the status quo.

  9. Tanz 9

    The Conservative Party are doing very well in the polls.
    Will Labour work with them if they had to?
    I wouldn’t have thought so.
    Act are indeed, toast.
    I never thought Kimdotcom was a conservative.

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      Good. I hope the Conservative Party pushes for a Govt inquiry into whether or not the Moon landings actually happened. Colin Craig is right, there are questions which need to be answered.

      • Tamz 9.1.1

        Are you being serious, CV? So what about the moon landings, Craig is entitled to his opinion and there are many that would agree with him. Free speech, remember.

        • Colonial Viper 9.1.1.1

          I hadn’t understood that Colin Craig was going for the conspiracy theory vote until you explained it, but I guess it makes sense the way you put it.

        • Draco T Bastard 9.1.1.2

          People are entitled to their own opinions, they get to use the same facts as everybody else.

        • Brett Dale 9.1.1.3

          Tamz

          yes he is intitled to his opinion.

          But we are talking something that is FACT and not up for debate.

          I dont want someone like that in parliament.

          • Paul 9.1.1.3.1

            Brett, I agree.
            That’s why Rodney Hide should not return as he questions AGW.
            Climate Change, another Scientific fact denied by people unfit for government.

            • Colonial Viper 9.1.1.3.1.1

              If it’s a democracy, voters get to decide who they want in or out as their representatives.

              • Draco T Bastard

                That’s not true. We don’t allow criminals to be elected and I’m really starting to think that we shouldn’t allow people who deny reality to be elected either.

                • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                  Far better to tighten up Parliamentary procedure regarding evidence (for legislation) and judicial review where it is lacking.

                • Tracey

                  do reality deniers include the religious? I think it should. By all means believe in an unproven invisible friend but dont stand for parliament if you do because yuo don’t have a firm enough grasp on reeality.

                  • felix

                    Seems a bit harsh.

                    Plenty of highly intelligent, capable, talented people have faith in unproven invisible friends. It doesn’t necessarily preclude one from making rational decisions.

                    • tracey

                      why the exception? If someone doesn’t believe in climate change, then they can otherwise make rational decisions?

                      the difference between people who deny climate change and those who believe in an invisible friend, is the former don’t ask for special respect for their views, special grants and charitable rebates, want their own schools and so on.

                      what is the difference between someone who believes in someone that is not there and a schizophrenic?

                    • felix

                      I didn’t suggest you give their views any special credence. Quite the opposite.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Are we about to stop those deemed mentally unsuitable or mentally ill from voting too. This is going to be a very fun democracy in a very short space of time.

                    • felix

                      Yeah, if there’s one thing this society needs it’s less awareness of the spiritual side of life and more orientation toward the materialistic.

        • phillip ure 9.1.1.4

          @ tamz..no no..that’s not ‘free-speech’..

          ..that’s moonbat-ery…

          ..and all those that agree with him..?

          ..also moonbats..one and all..

          ..are you wth craig on this one..?

          ..still ‘debatable’..is it..?..

          ..that moon-landing thing..?

          phillip ure..

      • Lanthanide 9.1.2

        Colin said he didn’t know one way or the other whether man landed on the moon.

        That’s not the same as actively disbelieving it, or wanting to investigate whether it happened.

        Basically it’s his way of saying “that doesn’t have any impact on my life, so I don’t care about it”. This is actually a very terrifying viewpoint to have, but it does explain his parties policies and stances on scientific issues in general.

        • Tracey 9.1.2.1

          Are you sure? Couldn’t it also mean I don’t believe they landed on the moon but I know that is not voter palatable so I will twist it about a bit… His version of key’s “I don’t recall:?

          I mean he could have siad “I don’t care I want to talk about X”.

          • felix 9.1.2.1.1

            It could also mean “I am in no position to alienate the few extra voters I might pick up by dropping a few hints about moon landings, 911, and flouride. But I’m not quite stupid enough to side with them out loud.”

    • McFlock 9.2

      lol
      the conservatives are doing slightly better than act in the polls.
      This is not “very well”.

    • millsy 9.3

      Tanz, I should be able to fuck who I goddam well please without you or CC waving a bible at me telling me I am a sinner then petitioning the government to throw me in jail.

  10. George D 10

    The KDCP, even if it goes nowhere, will likely put the TPPA further up the agenda.

    There’s a small section of the electorate amenable to protest voting. Giving them a non NZF and non joke-party/ALCP alternative should increase overall turnout. A good thing.

  11. George D 11

    #An almost duplicate comment, see above ^.

  12. Chooky 12

    the middle pin up party is definitely the most sexy….i vote Labour or Greens try to co-opt Mr Dot Com and the Mega Party…and do a deal …..eg. you dont stand where we are marginal and if you advocate for us we will put you high on the list as technology spokeperson

  13. kerry 13

    I can only see Dot Com taking away valuable votes from Labour or the greens, those votes then wasted as it is highly unlikely he would get over 5%

    • Chooky 13.1

      agreed…that is why Labour or the Greens should absorb him somehow…(maybe he could stand in just one seat…John Key’s for maximum publicity )….and urge all voters to give their party vote to the Greens or Labour

      • Colonial Viper 13.1.1

        not an nz citizen, so cannot stand.

        • Chooky 13.1.1.1

          oh….well is there any other cunning plan to subsume him?….to Mega’s satisfaction and the mutual benefit of the Left

          • Colonial Viper 13.1.1.1.1

            Tough one that, seeing that he is a man used to being in charge, not taking orders and towing the given line…

            • weka 13.1.1.1.1.1

              Not to mention that his politics might not fit with the left.

              • Chooky

                …this is all true….maybe peaceful talks can begin.

                …because Dot Com is going to have a lot of appeal to the young computer nerds who value their freedom on the net and the disaffected who want to give National and the establishment a kick…Dot Com has anarchist pulling power, brains obviously …and a lot of money, so he is a match for Key

            • Tracey 13.1.1.1.1.2

              he doesnt want to be a bureaucrat.

    • @ kerry..

      “.. highly unlikely he would get over 5%..”

      ..with the right populist-policies..

      ..i think it highly likely his party will get 5%…

      phillip ure..

  14. tricledrown 14

    No intake of animal fats can lead to forms of arthritis.
    I’ m a vegetarian.
    Be very careful .
    Milk allergies can be overcome by starting with a small intake and building up.
    Or organic fed cows.
    Goats or sheeps milk.
    Being vegan or non dairy vegetarian is a path that needs a lot of work so you don’t mis out on vital foods.
    Just taking a vitamin pill is not going to fix it as only a max of 15% of the pills nutrients are going to be ansorbef verse 85% from food.

    • @ tricledown..

      “..No intake of animal fats can lead to forms of arthritis..”

      absolute rubbish..

      ..i know people who haven’t eaten animal fats for decades..

      ..they are in fine health..and don’t have arthritis..

      ..and..i don’t take any vitamin pills…and am vegan/plant-based..

      ..have normal blood-pressure etc..

      ..i dunno where you get this stuff..

      ..phillip ure..

  15. tricledrown 15

    Kerry what brings you that opinion.

    • kerry 15.1

      Anyone who is a right leaning voter cant stand the guy, anyone who is a national voter would rather die than give him there vote .So it appears only the left leaning voter would ever vote for him, which in itself is a conundrum because Dot Com has right leaning values, I personally cant see his future party claiming any more votes than 1 – 1.5% .

      • Colonial Viper 15.1.1

        Damn you’ve surveyed hundreds of thousands of National voters really efficiently.

      • phillip ure 15.1.2

        @ kerry..

        ..i think you deserve a special orifice-pluck-award for that one..

        ..assumption piled upon assumption..eh..?

        ..it doesn’t pass for critical-thought..eh..?

        ..phillip ure..

      • Tracey 15.1.3

        Except with his money he can front foot the anti TPP campaign and you will clearly be surprised how many of national’s voters wont like the TPP when it is presented to them by someone with money and the ability to get a message on tv, radio, print, etc… At the moment the govt is getting a free tpp ride hiding behind the superfluous confidentiality clause. can you publish your poll results? The herald would love them I am sure.

  16. Adrian 16

    We’ve been sucking on the tit since the first domestication of animals which must be since the dawn of humankind. If it was bad for us we wouldn’t be here.
    Interesting research came to light last year ( Victoria Uni I think ) about the significant lift in bowel cancers on the cohort that have missed out on school milk, apparently if you were one of the lucky ones to hold down the ” left -in-the-sun-till it-was-undrinkable”,you have real protection from the curse.

    • Colonial Viper 16.1

      The right kinds of bacteria might help the health of the gut…

      • veutoviper 16.1.1

        Exactly, CV. My dairy fat intolerance causes IBS; and school milk did not protect me from very early stage bowel cancer (hopefully now clear). But like a lot of people with dairy intolerance, yogurt is OK; particularly the Keffir yogurt now available (and sold as the tummy yogurt.). But we are well off track from the subject of this post – my apologies. Used to enjoy Weekend posts for these type of subjects – and gardening, birds etc. Back to mowing down more of the paddock before feeding the ‘zoo’ here has to be done.

        • Chooky 16.1.1.1

          @ veutoviper ….gluten/wheat intolerance can cause symptoms of IBS ..and also bowel cancer…it is easy these days to get a blood test for this

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease

        • phillip ure 16.1.1.2

          @ veuto..

          “..and school milk did not protect me from very early stage bowel cancer..”

          um…!..veuto ..sorry to hear about yr cancer..and hope you stay free/clear..

          ..but i’m afraid the bad news is that the ‘dairy-causes-cancer’-news that came out just after xmas..

          ..(with the subtext that the message echoes particularly loud here in nz..

          ..with our world-beating rates in some cancers..

          ..and our world-beating consumption of dairy..)..

          ..and the bad news is that one of cancers that we have world-beating rates in..

          ..and has been linked to dairy consumption..

          ..is bowel cancer..

          ..so dairy most certainly does not ‘protect’ you from bowel cancer..

          ..it is just the opposite..

          phillip ure..

          • Chooky 16.1.1.2.1

            @ phillip ure

            Yes but NZ soils are also very deficient in natural Selenium ( in countries we here Selenium is high there are very low rates of cancer)….also we have high rates of undiagnosed gluten intolerance which lead to all sorts of metabolic disorders…and this can often lead to milk allergies

            The jury is out on whether dairy products lead to cancer or are protective against cancer

            • phillip ure 16.1.1.2.1.1

              no chooky..the jury is no longer ‘out’..

              ..it has been ‘out’..up until the release of this meta-study..focusing on cancer/diet links..

              ..just after xmas..

              ..and i hafta say..the similarities (ie. wholesale denial) in reaction to this new news/meta-study..

              ..so so echo the reactions to the first warnings of tobacco being proven to cause lung cancer..

              ..as everyone went ‘bullshit!’..

              (as they peered thru the clouds of smoke enveloping them..

              ..and sparked up yet another ciggy..)

              ..we are in the same depths of ignorance now about dairy..

              ..as we were about tobacco then..

              ..and a potent comparison is that future hindsight will show clearly that we had may as well have been sticking a couple of ciggies in with the cheese-sarnies..in those school lunch-boxes..

              ..as both ciggies and dairy are addictive..both makes you odds on for cancer..

              ..leading to a premature death..

              ..and if you think yr reactions are bad..

              ..you should see how the dairy-dependant-vegetarians i know are handling my heads-up on this..

              ..i had lunch with five of them yesterday..

              ..their reactions range from denial..to at best a grudging acceptance of the logic/science behind the arguments..

              ..and this is news..like those first tobacco warnings..

              ..that is not going to go away..

              ..eh..?

              phillip ure..

              • Chooky

                philip ure

                can you provide links?

                I have no axe to grind on this…because from a very young age( 6 months old…eczema) I was diagnosed as being allergic to cows milk, consequently I have kept off it as far as possible….but as a child I still had massive allergies ( hayfever/asthma/eczema)… later specialists suspected wheat allergies but there was no way of testing….since my daughter has been tested for gluten allergies and found to be almost celiac …the whole family has been off gluten( easy to do with Healtheries non-gluten flour) ….and I now find I can drink milk….and my partner no longer has IBS

                ……just suggest you keep an open mind….everyone’s metabolism and genetics are different….and it is often unknown how some foods interact with other foods and are processed in the body ….one rule does not apply to everyone
                eg . some have argued that schizophrenia and autism are reactions to gluten…just as for some people dairy is associated with heart disease

                I agree with you on the ethical issues …ie .bobby calves….however i think if cows are treated well …(calves not weaned too soon)and are free-range on grass (similar to free-range hens) then it is ok ethically

                …in fact milk from organic grass fed free-range cows is supposed to be good for many people in studies

                • hi chooky..

                  ..here is the main cache..

                  http://whoar.co.nz/?s=dairy

                  and..

                  http://whoar.co.nz/?s=cancer

                  the new/specific meta-study i cite is 4th down in the cancer-link..

                  ..hope that helps..

                  ..phillip ure..

                  • Chooky

                    @ phillip ure …..well i dont think your evidence is very strong for dairy causing cancer ….and there is an awful lot of evidence for the health benefits of dairy products, especially from organic grass fed cows…( while admittedly there is also a lot of evidence of dairy allergies in some people causing other adverse health effects eg heart )

                    .. I think your strongest case against dairy is the ethics….bobby calves and non organic fed and reared barn cows ( the latter of which we dont have in NZ yet and which will probably downgrade NZ’s dairy industry quality /reputation if we do)

                    PS. i wonder if Mr Mega Dot Com has a lot of dairy?….but then again he may be a vegetarian and eat a lot of carbo and sugar…my gamer son has put on an awful lot of weight since he became vegetarian

                    • @ chooky..a bad/dairy-sodden vegetarian-diet is not good for you..

                      ..as often dairy-intakes jumps..to compensate for no flesh..

                      ..yr son should go vegan..

                      ..here is all the info he needs..

                      http://whoar.co.nz/?s=vegan

                      phillip ure

                    • Chooky

                      agree philip ure….on eating too much dairy on a vege diet

                      …however unless one is a Indian chef and takes the time to slow cook fabulous Indian vegetarian food platters ,the temptation to fill up on dairy for a lazy gamer vegetarian is irresistable …particularly if they are sick of canned beans and dont like veges

                    • chooky..

                      ..here are gourmet-japanese/indian/thai vegan-recipies..and more..

                      http://whoar.co.nz/?s=vegan+recipies

                      heh..!..i just scrolled thru the list..

                      ..and seriously..i have collected/collated more vegan recipies than you can poke a stick at..

                      ..so..chooky..back to yr son..

                      ..have a look for easy-to-do-vegan stuff..(of which there is plenty..)

                      ..and point him at that..

                      ..and buy him a couple of hand-dumbells..

                      ..better food and 2-3 5 min bursts of energy/exercise/curls? a day..

                      ..will see him u-turning..

                      ..good luck with that..

                      ..and yep..!..there are three legs to the vegan-stool..

                      ..help yrslf..

                      ..help the animals..

                      ..help the planet..

                      ..which one is leant on most is not that important..

                      ..to begin with..

                      phillip ure

                    • Chooky

                      philip ure …….agree with you entirely …..however teenagers are not rational people……..and gamers are particularly lazy when it comes to preparing food…he has been a vegan for several months and he ate a lot of beans and carbo and got fat and sick of beans and carbo…so he became a vegetarian and ate dairy…no exercise and no veges to speak of …..last year he was a meat eater and fit and trim as an iron man…..so teenagers!!!

  17. joe90 17

    The mutation that made dairy vital to the survival of my northern ancestors.

    http://www.nature.com/news/archaeology-the-milk-revolution-1.13471

  18. One Anonymous Knucklehead 18

    Mr.com has to get the 500 paid-up members before he can do anything.

    No small hurdle.

    • Draco T Bastard 18.1

      Not small but not particularly large either. The first problem comes in setting up the administration to handle the party (I think most people fail at that as they just NFI as to what’s needed). The second is having the resources needed to get the word of the new party out.

      I don’t think DotCom will problems with either of those.

    • burt 18.2

      Dotcom makes a lot of sense about politicians serving themselves. I’ve been saying that for years.

      I’d say Dotcom with 333,000+ twitter followers will have zero issues getting 500 financial members.

      • One Anonymous Knucklehead 18.2.1

        Assuming Twitter following translates into “I agree with you politically and want to join your party”, I’m sure you’re absolutely right.

      • Tracey 18.2.2

        which is why you cant possibly vote National, Act, Labour…

    • Tracey 18.3

      he could pay the subs for 500 people?

  19. millsy 19

    Depending on the manifesto that DC’s Labour puts up, the chances of New Zealand First getting in, and what KDC’s party is going to promise, I might just vote for it. Face it. a Dotcom party wouldnt do any worse than the parties we have now.

  20. BM 20

    I’d prefer people voted Green, than vote for the German criminal.

    Sooner the prick’s out of the country the better.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 20.1

      I had the opportunity to ask a QC recently for their views on the case. I think you may need to get ready for a bit of a disappointment.

      • BM 20.1.1

        Really?, I hope not.

        I can’t stand the prick, he’s laughing at New Zealand, he thinks we’re all gullible hayseeds that are just here for his amusement.

        He can go get fucked.

        • Murray Olsen 20.1.1.1

          Really? I hope so.

          I can’t stand the prick, he’s laughing at New Zealand, he thinks we’re all gullible hayseeds that are just here for his enrichment.

          He can go back to Hawaii.

          There, fixed it for you, but I thought you liked Key?

          • BM 20.1.1.1.1

            I do like Key and do like the way he’s taking NZ

            He’s doing what he thinks is best for NZ, bit a Clark, Bolger, Lange and the rest of the Kiwi Pms that went before him.

            Unlike the fat German fuck who’s only in it for himself, shame there’s so many dumb uneducated fucks out there in kiwiland that think he’s some sort of messiah that’s going to give them all this free stuff, bunch of dumb arses.

        • Tracey 20.1.1.2

          “I can’t stand the prick, he’s laughing at New Zealand, he thinks we’re all gullible hayseeds that are just here for his amusement.”

          If he follows your posts he would certainly think so.

    • Tracey 20.2

      you must want banks gone too then, asap? Given you believe in guilty til proven innocent. you should begin a letter writing campaign to key to disassociate himself with criminals?

  21. karol 21

    So who would be candidates for Dotcom’s party?

    The linked article says this:

    Rumours around potential candidates include a “well-known broadcast journalist”, according to Edwards. And he believes a number of bloggers and political activists will gravitate towards the new party.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 21.1

      Can anyone say shallow talent pool?

      • Paul 21.1.1

        John Banks?

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 21.1.1.1

          Someone with impeccable anti-surveillance credentials who wants to be a politician but hasn’t already joined another party? The talent pool is getting shallower…

        • Chooky 21.1.1.2

          Paul +1…John Banks is a very good example of shallow pool talent…but he would disagree

      • karol 21.1.2

        The celebrity-culture-in-the-digital-age candidates?

        Not very impressed by this Dotcom move – he’s a man with a big ego and likes to be the centre of attention.

        If he was serious about politics, other than for his own agenda, he’d more likely have supported another party – but I guess their isn’t one with his particular wants/needs – and he maybe feels he’s bigger than someone else’s party.

        • sabine 21.1.2.1

          anyone going into politics has to have a big ego and an overflated sense of self, or else they would not enjoy the rat race.

          Actually, I think there is something that can’t be said of John Key, but is true fro KDC. KDC likes New Zealand and has made the country his home. John Key will bugger off as soon as he is done with his Middle Management Stint as Prime Minister of the little Country NZ.

          And for what its worth, The KDC Party would garner its 5% in its first year. There are just too many disenfranchised voters out there that are neither served by Labour, National or the Greens.
          Also not to be underestimated the appeal KDC has to young, first time voters, left/right leaning libertarians and the disillusioned Labour/Green (insert any other party). As for Prime Minister, how about John Campbell? Head would explode! Lol

          • karol 21.1.2.1.1

            KDC doesn’t just have a big ego – it’s super big. And others still manage to be more interested int he well being of the less well off.

            I don’t underestimate KDC’s appeal to some – we live in a celebrity culture – KDC fits right in.

            KDC has had some pretty unflattering things to say about in NZ at times. Right now, he can’t really go much place else. Wasn’t he living in Hong Kong as well as NZ at one stage?

            KDC’s interest in NZ is quite shallow. His interest is more in the transnational wealthy lifestyle.

            • BM 21.1.2.1.1.1

              This, with bells on.

            • sabine 21.1.2.1.1.2

              and there he joins many others. Fact is this country is being sold to the highest bidder. John Key has opened the gates for this to happen, and I can’t see anyone back tracking on it.

              Question, will Labour do away with the new lending rules? it has been established now that the only ones benefiting from these rules are investors. Where do they come from? overseas?

              is KDC in anyway more big headed then John Key? I can’t say anything about Cunliffe, because really I know nothing of him, and as of now he has not done anything that makes him any better.

              We have to come to grips with the fact that our future politicians will be global, they will live overseas (John Key has done so, Helen Clarke is on her big OE at the moment), To truly have a populist local candidate, I have no one that pops into my mind.

              And as for unflattering things to say about NZ, i thought that was a national sport?

              disclaimer, I am German, NZ resident for over 15 years now and out of reflex vote green. My choice for Prime Minister after Clarke was Fitzsimmonds, but the country was in deep need of a set of balls, no matter how small.

            • Tracey 21.1.2.1.1.3

              Key doesn’t just have a big ego – it’s super big. And others still manage to be more interested in the well being of the less well off.

              I don’t underestimate Ket’s appeal to some – we live in a money chasing culture – Key fits right in.

              Key has had some pretty unflattering things to say about in NZ at times Wellington is ded, prefers to holiday in hawaii). Right now, he can’t really go much place else. Wasn’t he living in New York as well as NZ at one stage?

              Key’s interest in NZ is quite shallow. His interest is more in the transnational wealthy lifestyle.

              FIFY

        • Tracey 21.1.2.2

          “he’s a man with a big ego and likes to be the centre of attention.” So you think he could be prime minister karol? ;)

    • Murray Olsen 21.2

      Paddy Gower? He might be prepared to do a lot for an invite to one of Dotcom’s parties.

      • karol 21.2.1

        Gower? If so, can’t wait to see who the journo will be who keeps thrusting a mic in Gower’s face and asking when he’s going to stage a coup against the leader of his party!

      • Tracey 21.2.2

        dont think he has the money where your mouth balls. Garner? KDC could top up his MP salary so he is not out of pocket

  22. red blooded 22

    Kim Dot Com strikes me as self obsessed and manipulative, not to be trusted. He has only started talking about politics as another way to inveigle himself with the media and general public while he uses his obscene wealth to wage a publicity war on his former friends. These are his natural allies; he’s just annoyed by them, so he’s turning on them.

    As for the whole milk debate; how about a bigger perspective? Milk for human consumption is produced by the slaughter of bobby calves (news item: cows, like people, lactate to feed their young, not to feed other species), has a terrible effect on the environment and is a very inefficient use of land, water and other resources.

    It’s not that hard being vegan and it’s not difficult to have a balanced diet. I cannot imagine going back to eating other animals or eating their milk or eggs. I wonder if the person who commented on this above has actually given veganism a try. If not, one wonders on what basis they are commenting. (Sorry this is out of order – phone comment.)

    • weka 22.1

      “It’s not that hard being vegan”

      Actually for many people it is if they want to be healthy. Any restricted diet takes effort.

      Milk for human consumption is produced by the slaughter of bobby calves (news item: cows, like people, lactate to feed their young, not to feed other species), has a terrible effect on the environment and is a very inefficient use of land, water and other resources.

      You don’t have to slaughter bobby calves to produce milk. Nor do you have to pollute the environment. Those two things and the inefficiency are to do with conventional and industrial dairy farming. Those are all consequences of capitalism, not inherent end points of drinking milk.

      I’d be interested to know how you manage to be vegan without increasing your carbon footprint via food miles, and/or supporting Monsanto. Not saying it can’t be done, just that it isn’t often.

      • phillip ure 22.1.1

        @ weka..

        ..You don’t have to slaughter bobby calves to produce milk..”

        ..but the reality is that this is what happens..

        ..i am unsure what vision of pastoral idyll you are calling upon there..

        ..but for dairy farmers..the bobby calves are money..

        ..they are sent to the slaughterhouse..

        ..to become veal..

        ..and they do not get their mothers’ milk..

        ..once again..that is the farmers’ money..

        ..and as for claim that being a vegan/plant-based person is hard..

        ..um..!..as one..can i just say..it isn’t..

        ..you would be amazed at the world of taste that opens up to/for you once you remove animal flesh as the centre-piece of every meal..

        ..and once you stop smothering everything with gluggy cheese..(ewww..!!..)

        ..and the suffering of/cruelties done to those animals..in your name..

        ..don’t even figure in yr conciousness/considerations..eh..?

        ..and you say you are a ‘green’..?

        ..and you are preaching about ‘supporting monsanto’..?

        ..is that before or after you have wiped the pig-fat from yr lips..?

        ..how about you get that animal-flesh-mote the size of a log out of yr eye..eh..?

        ..”green’..?..don’t make me laugh..!

        phillip ure..

        • weka 22.1.1.1

          ..You don’t have to slaughter bobby calves to produce milk..”

          ..but the reality is that this is what happens..

          ..i am unsure what vision of pastoral idyll you are calling upon there..

          ..but for dairy farmers..the bobby calves are money..

          ..they are sent to the slaughterhouse..

          ..to become veal..

          ..and they do not get their mothers’ milk..

          ..once again..that is the farmers’ money..

          Which is why I don’t support industrial dairying. As I’ve said repeatedly.

          I’ve eaten vegan, which is why I already know that it tastes good and is hard work for most people to do in a nutritionally competent way. I have no trouble believing that you find it easy, but you are not most people.

          The criticisms around ethics and vegan impacts environmentally stand, irrespective of your grossly mis-targeted ad hominems.

          All western diets impact negatively on the planet, I’m just saying that veganism can’t take the high ground you think it can.

          • phillip ure 22.1.1.1.1

            yes weka..everything is relative..

            ..and perfection a difficult state to both attain and sustain/maintain..

            ..but you can hardly defend meat/dairy eating/producing on environmentally-sustainable grounds..

            ..as in meat/dairy better than vegan/plant-based..?

            ..got any facts/figures/links to support that supposition..?

            ..growing meat has been long proven as one of the most inefficient uses of land/water-resources…

            “..The criticisms around ethics and vegan impacts environmentally stand..”

            could you remind me of them..?

            ..(bullet-points will suffice..)

            ..and seriously..!..do you ever see ‘health-experts’ advising:

            ..’eat more meat..!..eat more cheese..!’..

            ..as a road to good-health/chronic-disease-prevention..?

            ..i wonder why the answer to that question is:..’no’..it’s always ‘eat less!’..

            ..now..why do reckon that is..?

            ..and re yr claim that i am somehow ‘different’ ‘ ‘cos i not only enjoy my vegan/plant-based lifestyle..i celebrate it..

            (and be in no doubt..my attitudes are purely from a self-interest p.o.v..in that i feel so much better..than when i was a carnivore..

            ..and feel better than i did during the 15 yrs i spent as a dairy-dependant-vegetarian..

            ..(and yes..when vegetarian..i thought vegans were a bit ‘weird’..heh..!..

            ..had perhaps taken things..just a bit too far..?..)

            ..and i must say..yr last couple of lines have me totally puzzled..

            ..are you advocating ‘living off air..or just shut up!’..

            ..and i should note that i know a community of people who took over a dairy-trashed valley..

            ..and turned it into a form of eden..

            ..a place where they get most of their food off that land..

            ..so yr ‘impact negatively’ is horse-shit really..

            ..you can both live and be kind to the planet..

            ..and once again..’perfection’ is a difficult goal..

            ..but surely having a go at getting as near to that as possible..

            ..as well as being kind to the animals/planet..

            ..is worth the effort..?

            ..d’yareckon..?..

            phillip ure..

    • karol 22.2

      Kim Dot Com strikes me as self obsessed and manipulative, not to be trusted. He has only started talking about politics as another way to inveigle himself with the media and general public while he uses his obscene wealth to wage a publicity war on his former friends. These are his natural allies; he’s just annoyed by them, so he’s turning on them.

      I typed my above comment before reading this – yep, similar to my assessment – self-focused.

      • phillip ure 22.2.1

        are you serious karol..

        ..assumption upon assumption..

        ..all made from a position of total ignorance of the facts of the matter..

        ..but you ‘know’..eh..?

        ..hilarious..!

        phillip ure..

    • Tracey 22.3

      do you think dogs should be fed meat?

      with your concern for the environment I hope you have no soy or corn products of any kind in your pantry or body

      • phillip ure 22.3.1

        @ tracy..i have two dogs that live on a vegan diet..

        ..one is 15 yrs old..and looks/moves/runs about like a 5-6 yr old..

        ..has a wonderful/mellow/happy nature..

        ..and in a lifetime of having dogs around me..she is the best/smartest/best at being on same wavelength..that has been my privilege to care for..

        ..and she often knows what i am going to do before i do it..

        ..it’s kinda spooky sometimes..

        ..and she has a serious internal-clock going on..if we haven’t been for a walk to the park by a certain time..she moves into serious bullying-mode..

        ..and as she is an eye-dog..she is quite good at it..she just locks into yr eyes..

        ..with what i swear is a faint look of impatience on her face..

        .plus..she doesn’t stink of rotting flesh..

        ..her coat is shiny..

        ..you do know that the oldest dog in the world has lived on a vegan diet all its’ life..eh..?

        ..it’s 29..i think..

        ..and if you still disbelieve..i have photo-galleries of vegan-diet dogs at whoar..

        ..phillip ure..

        ..

  23. sabine 23

    Anyone entering Politics need to be manipulative, full of themselves, big ego, big smiles and a cut throat attitude, or else they die the first day in the shark pool.

    Politics is not a polite game.

    • karol 23.1

      That’s a pretty facile defence of a man with a big ego who wants to dabble in the power plays of politics.

      They are not all like Dotcom or John Key. Others have a reasonable ego, but also care about the well being of the people in their country.

      • sabine 23.1.1

        I am a cynic when it comes to Politics. Especially the last 14 years have erased any rose coloured views i might have had of Politicians and their counterparts in business, banks etc.

        So no, i don’t believe that there are many left who actually want to serve the people. Most of them want to serve themselves.

        Maybe i am proven wrong, but i wont hold my breath.

    • Draco T Bastard 23.2

      No, they don’t. They probably need self-assurance and people skills but they don’t actually need to be a psychopath – unless they’re running for a right-wing party such as National.

    • Arfamo 23.3

      I’m thinking, where’s this analysis wrong and then I remember Aaron Whatshisname who met all those criteria and lasted 5 minutes.

      • Tracey 23.3.1

        was dispendable. Banks meets them too, so does Dunne and so on. BUT they weren’t people Key could easily make an example of to garner brownie points.

  24. Jimmie 24

    I have to laugh that KDC who (from a leftie point of view) epitomizes the stereotype of an immoral, capitalistic, rich prick who has amassed his ill gotten millions by ripping off others hard work and who has been convicted during the process of this accumulation is held up by the left as the saviour of their cause for electoral victory.

    Normally most on the left would jump up and down with glee at the prospect of him being dragged off to the US to face the music for his dodgy dealings.
    However because he has become a partial thorn in the side of John Banks/John Key he is is suddenly elevated to the position of Saint Kim by the left hoping fervently that he may be the Achilles heel that will bring them power in 2014.

    It is both funny and sad at the same time in that the only hope of electoral victory for the opposition is an overweight, foreign, helicoptering capitalist, who is likely to face deportation and criminal charges in the near future……..surely the left can come up with something better than this?

    • karol 24.1

      Many of us on the left are not that enamoure with KDC – see my coomments above.

      He has been useful however in showing up some of the dodgy dealings of Key and co – the GCSB etc. But part of that is a battle of egos between KDC & JK.

    • Tracey 24.2

      commenting on his impact on the political scene is not the same as liking or supporting him. I don’t know if he is guilty of what he is charged with. I know very little about him other than what I read and that is not very elucidating on his personal morals or whatever.

      I am amazed at how many on the left are so quick to jump to negative judgments based on so little.

      he could be a fuck, he might not be.

  25. ecossemaid 25

    Oh The Muppet Party (Which I thought was a bad film with Michael Caine as straight Man to Kermit) The Assault Party (Have they all got AK 47′s) The Dot Com Party ( Ok they are now making Parties up) Are some of you people that naval gazing in the extreme that your now concerned about the potential of Parties that don’t exist? Does Your Coffee Latte (No Milk Only Soya) allow you the luxury of worrying about Ghost Parties? Meanwhile….The National Party, you know them? That Massive Elephant In The Room, The One Over There>>> With A Huge smirk on its face and the blood stained axe as they continue to slash, burn destroy our public services strangle our young peoples working chances and destroy welfare. Meanwhile the LBGT / Environmental/(Choose your own one off issue, that you can afford to denote time, resources on) Bickers about Parties that don’t exist,,,,It begs the question that these people haven’t even felt the chill breeze of The Destruction that’s occurring in Real New Zealand as they are just so concerned about satellite reception in Their Ivory Towers!
    Yes it must be difficult to decide what coffee we drink as we sit and pontificate at the local cafe..Telling our friends how very political we are,that we write in a blog on the internet.The sad thing is the only thing it appears that some in here have a grip on is the coffee cup.
    The Nazi Wannabee Party must think all it’s Christmases have come at once with certain elements of the broad left fragmenting any organised form of opposition .By default they have become their Pseudo Allies and they don’t even know it!

  26. Rich 26

    I wonder whether, given Joyce’s actions in directing ACT, National / ACT are approaching the point where ACT should be registered as a component party of National under s127 of the Electoral Act. It may be possible to make a complaint to the Electoral Commission on this?

    • burt 26.1

      Rich

      If ACT keep getting a member elected they will become like Jim Anderton was to Labour. A double dipping leech getting separate party funding while unequivocally supporting National. The irony is the people who defended Anderton will now be on the attack and his previous attackers will be defending [whoever]…

      • McFlock 26.1.1

        No, because anderton’s wasn’t a vote in the house that enabled policies that the majority of new zealanders opposed. Unlike ACT or UF, either of whom could have stopped asset sales

        • burt 26.1.1.1

          Of course, we all wanted stuff banned and everyone wants other people’s money.

          • felix 26.1.1.1.1

            stuff has been banned? About bloody time.

            Seriously though, what was actually banned that you’re still so upset about?

            • McFlock 26.1.1.1.1.1

              He wasn’t allowed to take his thinking-brain dog into the library while he used the public internet connection.

  27. infused 27

    Anyone supporting kim.com is a fucking muppet.

    • Lanthanide 27.1

      Do you disagree with his stance on privacy?

      • infused 27.1.1

        I don’t disagree with much of what he says. but that’s not why he’s doing it.

        With Kim there is one goal. Self preservation.

        He will say anything to get more media attention to keep himself in the spotlight. This is for one reason only.

        It’s so blindingly obvious it hurts. Yet so many fall for it.

        • felix 27.1.1.1

          Yeah it must be annoying watching supposedly intelligent people being taken in by such an obvious charlatan, and enjoying it.

    • Arfamo 27.2

      I didn’t realise they had a muppet for that. Boy they really thought of all sorts of types of muppets didn’t they.

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    National has finished its asset sales with a massive bonfire of a fire sale, showing once and for all how much of a disaster this programme was, says Labour’s SOEs spokesperson Clayton Cosgrove. “Just 68,000 Kiwis bought shares in Genesis,...
    Labour | 16-04
  • Interest rates rise but only smokes increasing
    Mortgage rate rises are making life harder for homeowners, and many of them will be surprised the latest CPI figures show inflation would be zero were it not for tobacco tax hikes, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “New Zealanders...
    Labour | 16-04
  • Term One Report Card for Hekia Parata
    Assignment Teacher’s Comments Grade      ...
    Labour | 16-04
  • Hekia Parata kept exam book errors from schools
    Schools will be appalled to learn Education Minister Hekia Parata knew since January that hundreds of exam booklets had been returned to the wrong students but said nothing about it, Labour’s Education Spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Exams are stressful enough...
    Labour | 15-04
  • What has ACC Minister been doing?
    The ACC Minister needs to front up and explain what, if any, changes she has made to the broken culture of ACC rather than denying that she has any part to play in the dysfunction of her Ministry, the Green...
    Greens | 15-04
  • Promise of jam tomorrow takes the cake
    A claim by Minister of Finance Bill English that average wages will climb by $7,500 over the next four years is a cynical promise of jam tomorrow by a government whose record on wage growth is atrocious, Labour spokesperson on...
    Labour | 15-04
  • Judith Collins has to fess up on ACC blunder
    ACC Minster Judith Collins must front up and tell New Zealand how many people who refused to hand over their private details to ACC have been denied cover, says Labour’s ACC Spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway. “The legality of ACC’s privacy waver,...
    Labour | 15-04
  • Board of Inquiry conditions will save rivers in New Zealand
    The Ruataniwha dam decision released today has protected the Tukituki River and dashed the Government’s hope of the “one nutrient model” (TRIM) being adopted nationwide, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. “It is a massive victory for those in the...
    Labour | 15-04
  • Labour turns wheels for cycling safety
    With more than a million New Zealanders now using cycling as an attractive alternative means of transport it is past time their safety was taken seriously, Labour’s Transport spokesperson Darien Fenton says. Due to speak to a cycling rally at...
    Labour | 15-04
  • SPEECH: Institute of Directors
    LEADING AND MANAGING OUR ECONOMIC FUTURE David Cunliffe MP, Labour Leader Speech to the Institute of Directors 15 April 2014, Auckland It's a privilege to be speaking here. The Institute of Directors has a proud history of developing New Zealand's...
    Labour | 15-04
  • More Oravida endorsements from John Key
    The use of a picture of John Key in an advertisement for Oravida’s scampi products in a Chinese airline magazine is further evidence of an unhealthily cosy relationship between the National Party and this company, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says....
    Labour | 15-04
  • Workers at Canterbury Yarns need redundancy support
    Workers faced with redundancy at Canterbury Yarns need a redundancy support co-ordinator, Green Party industrial relations spokesperson Denise Roche said today.Last week, Canterbury Yarns was placed in receivership. Canterbury Yarns joins a long list of New Zealand manufacturers who have...
    Greens | 14-04
  • Making the holidays easier for Kiwi drivers
    The next Labour Government will make the holidays easier and journeys quicker for Kiwi families driving on the roads, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “There’s nothing Kiwis like more than getting on the road and going on holiday. But on...
    Labour | 14-04
  • Ae Marika! 15 April 2014
    Our MANA AGM down in Rotorua on the weekend was a sold-out affair – even the media were struggling to get in! Political conferences can be very dull, but not this one. We had a great line-up of speakers including...
    Mana | 14-04
  • Green light from Labour for cancer screening programme
    Labour Leader David Cunliffe has today committed to a national bowel screening programme, starting with extending the current service to the Southern and Waikato districts. “Around 3000 New Zealanders develop bowel cancer each year and about 1200, or 100 a month,...
    Labour | 14-04
  • Adequate resourcing needed for victims’ advocate
    The establishment of a victims’ commissioner role will only be meaningful if it is properly resourced to do the job of advocating for victims’ interests, Labour Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. Justice Minister Judith Collins has just recently indicated her...
    Labour | 13-04
  • IPCC report shows Government ignoring climate experts
    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) report into climate mitigation, just released in Berlin, shows the National Government is ignoring the pleas of the world's best climate scientists.The report says deep and fast emission cuts are vital from all...
    Greens | 13-04
  • Japan’s quick turnaround on whaling disappointing
    News that Japan plans to recommence some form of “scientific” whaling programme so quickly after the International Court of Justice’s ruling against it is very disappointing, says David Shearer, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson. “New Zealanders expected the ICJ ruling -...
    Labour | 13-04
  • Reviewable tenancies will increase risks for vulnerable children
    Instead of kicking families out of their homes if they can pay their rent, parents with young children should have the opportunity to purchase equity in a state-built home over time, the Green Party said todayFrom July, Housing New Zealand...
    Greens | 13-04
  • 48,000 New Zealanders drinking faecally contaminated water
    Some 48,000 people were provided with water that had issues with faecal contamination, 18,000 of whom were from Canterbury, the Green Party said today. The Ministry of Health's Annual Report on Drinking-Water in New Zealand for 2012/13 shows that 48,000...
    Greens | 12-04
  • Labour will move to save the Kauri
    Labour will spend $20 million over the next 10 years to stop the spread of Kauri dieback disease, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “We are facing an ecological disaster with over 11 per cent of the Kauri trees in the...
    Labour | 12-04
  • SPEECH: Saving our Kauri
    Seech notes Good morning. Thank you for joining us here today. As a West Auckland MP I am very aware the kauri is an important part of this place. The Waitakere Ranges with their thousands of kauri, are a taonga....
    Labour | 12-04
  • MANA to continue negotiations with the Internet Party
    The MANA AGM has decided unanimously tonight to continue negotiaitions with the Internet Party. Within a month further negotiations, further consultation with MANA branches and a final decision on whether to proceed with a relationship is expected....
    Mana | 12-04
  • National’s tax dodge
      National’s insistence that it is cracking down on tax dodgers is little more than a bit of election year chest beating, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Revenue Minister Todd McClay surely doesn’t believe collecting $100 million of an estimated...
    Labour | 12-04
  • Housing prices go up – Gens X & Y give up
    Today’s REINZ report shows house prices continue skyward while first home buyers are dropping out of the market, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “According to the Real Estate Institute of New Zealand the national median house price has risen...
    Labour | 11-04
  • Do Key and Adams support Chorus appeal?
    John Key and Amy Adams must tell New Zealanders whether they support Chorus’ appeal of the High Court’s ruling in favour of the Commerce Commission, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “Chorus’ appeal is a waste of time. The company is...
    Labour | 11-04
  • Is Judith Collins unapologising
    Judith Collins appears to have retracted her apology for failing to disclose her meeting with her husband’s fellow company directors and a senior Chinese border control official just weeks after being ticked off by John Key for not doing so, Labour...
    Labour | 11-04
  • Media Advisory
    There have been a few minor changes to the MANA AGM agenda. Moana Jackson is unable to attend due to family commitments. Speaking in his place on Saturday morning MANA is pleased to welcome Georgina Beyer and Willie Jackson. MANA...
    Mana | 10-04
  • Green Party requests inquiry into Peter Dunne and Trust
    Green Party MP Denise Roche today wrote to the Parliamentary Registrar of Pecuniary Interests requesting an inquiry into whether Peter Dunne should have included his involvement as chair of the Northern Wellington Festival Trust on the Register of Pecuniary Interests...
    Greens | 10-04
  • Veterans short-changed
    The Veterans’ Support Bill reported back to Parliament today rejects a key recommendation of the Law Commission Review on which it is based and ignores the submissions of veterans and the RNZRSA, says Labour’s Veterans’ Affairs Spokesperson, Phil Goff. “A...
    Labour | 10-04
  • Why Easter holidays should always be mandatory and retail free
    The moaning from retailers that they can’t open the cash registers and worship the consumer culture of consumption over Easter bores me immensely because I’ve always believed that public holidays should be mandatory. It’s not that I really care about...
    The Daily Blog | 19-04
  • Why punish the parents of the disabled?
    Parents who have adult children with disabilities saw a glimmer of hope when the promise for payment for caring for their children was given. But like most things, the complicated and relentless bureaucracy of the whole process shows a completely...
    The Daily Blog | 19-04
  • Our government: still no idea
    Happy Easter everyone, bad weather aside. A previous post of mine was called “The Government with no ideas”.  Unsurprisingly, the theme of the piece was of a current government thoroughly absent of any creative ideas or solutions to assist more...
    The Daily Blog | 18-04
  • 12 things Forbes has to say about NZs about to burst economic bubble
    Forbes is not known for their socialist or left wing activism, so when they predict a grim economic failure, we should should collectively poo ourselves a little. National often get given this perception that somehow they are better economic mangers....
    The Daily Blog | 18-04
  • That Sinking Feeling: Labour’s urgent need for persuasive words and coura...
    THE LATEST ROY MORGAN POLL has Labour on 28.5 percent (down 3.5 percent) and the Greens on 11.5 percent (down 1.5 percent). At 40 percent, the combined vote of the two main centre-left parties has fallen 5 percentage points since...
    The Daily Blog | 18-04
  • Why the Labour movement should support a Universal Basic Income
    The Mana movement’s support of the idea of a universal basic income is a welcome development. It could become one of the litmus issues that define the party and prove extremely popular. If Mana are in a position to do...
    The Daily Blog | 18-04
  • Legal high and cannabis regulation
    I marched through Henderson last month with my fellow Westies to express our concern about the impact of so called “legal highs” on our community. Some people chanted loudly calling for banning, some expressing anger at the parliamentarians who voted...
    The Daily Blog | 18-04
  • Know your Tory fellow travellers and ideologues: John Bishop, Taxpayers Uni...
    . . On 19 March, I reported on the Board members of the so-called “Taxpayers Union”. With one exception, every single member of the Taxpayers Union Board was a current (or recent) card-carrying member or supporter of the National and/or...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • GUEST BLOG: Daniel Bruce – Internet Party: What Seems Ridiculous To The O...
    Imagine you’re a 18-21 year old, from a working class family. You’ve never had a landline phone at home, because your parents can’t afford the fixed monthly bills, so everyone in your familiy has a pre-pay mobile phone. Because of the same tight...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Greens to push for housing standards in MOU with Government
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Greens to push for housing standards in MOU with Government Tuesday, 28 Aug 2012 | Press Release We don’t need any more official reports. We know the problem and we have the plans....
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Mighty River squanders $3.8m preparing for sale
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Mighty River squanders $3.8m preparing for sale Tuesday, 28 Aug 2012 | Press Release New Zealanders do not want asset sales and they do not want the Government wasting millions of dollars on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Government’s economic agenda on shaky ground
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Government’s economic agenda on shaky ground Monday, 27 Aug 2012 | Press Release Instead of betting on a boom and bust industry and selling off assets the government needs to invest in a...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • National’s tax cuts haven’t cut tax avoidance
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: National’s tax cuts haven’t cut tax avoidance Sunday, 26 Aug 2012 | Press Release It is not fair that many rich New Zealanders are cheating on their tax. National’s 2010 tax cuts, that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Waitangi Tribunal report adds to crisis in asset sales agenda
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Waitangi Tribunal report adds to crisis in asset sales agenda Friday, 24 Aug 2012 | Press Release In its rush to sell our assets, National has found itself in a crisis of its...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Privacy across all departments needs checking
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Privacy across all departments needs checking Friday, 24 Aug 2012 | Press Release “People don’t have a choice about giving their information to the state so the Government has an absolute duty to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Reports show Government role in driving ACC dysfunction
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Reports show Government role in driving ACC dysfunction Thursday, 23 Aug 2012 | Press Release Restoring public trust and confidence is an essential goal and will require very major change starting from the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Government must front up on full costs of asset sales
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Government must front up on full costs of asset sales Thursday, 23 Aug 2012 | Press Release It’s time for the Government to front up over just how much these asset sales are...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • New report: middle NZ worse off, inequality grows
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: New report: middle NZ worse off, inequality grows Thursday, 23 Aug 2012 | Press Release Our society has never been as unequal as it is today. New research from the Ministry of Social...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Government to delay addressing climate change indefinitely
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Government to delay addressing climate change indefinitely Thursday, 23 Aug 2012 | Press Release “It would be a shock for any other Government to introduce such a self-defeatist piece of legislation but unfortunately...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Time to deliver on 26 weeks Paid Parental Leave
    Source: Labour Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Time to deliver on 26 weeks Paid Parental Leave Today marks two years since Labour MP Sue Moroney’s Bill extending paid parental leave to 26 weeks was drawn from the members’ ballot. “It’s...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Taxpayers robbed of $130m in Genesis sale
    Source: Labour Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Taxpayers robbed of $130m in Genesis sale Kiwi taxpayers have been robbed of $130 million by the Government in its final failed asset sale, says Labour’s SOEs spokesperson Clayton Cosgrove. “National set the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Service for victims of sexual violence pushed out in cold
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Service for victims of sexual violence pushed out in cold Thursday, 17 Apr 2014 | Press Release Christchurch cannot afford to lose this agency The Green Party is calling on Housing New Zealand...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Resignation rates among cops soar
    Source: Labour Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Resignation rates among cops soar The number of frontline officers quitting the police force is at a four-year high, with more than 350 walking off the job in the past year, Labour’s Police...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Work visa problems need monitoring
    Source: Labour Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Work visa problems need monitoring The Government is handing out temporary work visas to migrants to work in jobs that could easily be filled by unemployed Kiwi workers in the Christchurch rebuild, says...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Legal high ban worthy of wider pick-up
    Source: Labour Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Legal high ban worthy of wider pick-up Auckland Council’s ban on using legal highs in a public place is an excellent idea that should be replicated around New Zealand, says Labour’s Associate Health...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Smith sells state P-houses to first home buyers
    Source: Labour Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Smith sells state P-houses to first home buyers Nick Smith must reassure worried first home buyers that any Housing NZ houses sold under his First Home policy will be tested for P contamination...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Brazil: Human rights under threat ahead of the World Cup
    Source: Amnesty International NZ – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Brazil: Human rights under threat ahead of the World Cup     Protests in Brazil:Brazil Franciscan friar kneels in front of Brazilian riot police officers asking for calm during confrontation with Landless...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Brazil: Human rights under threat ahead of the World Cup
    Source: Amnesty International NZ – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Brazil: Human rights under threat ahead of the World Cup     Protests in Brazil:Brazil Franciscan friar kneels in front of Brazilian riot police officers asking for calm during confrontation with Landless...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Libya: Trial of former al-Gaddafi officials by video link a farce
    Source: Amnesty International NZ – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Libya: Trial of former al-Gaddafi officials by video link a farce     Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi will face the courts on 14 April. © IMED LAMLOUM/AFP/Getty Images         Read...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Libya: Trial of former al-Gaddafi officials by video link a farce
    Source: Amnesty International NZ – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Libya: Trial of former al-Gaddafi officials by video link a farce     Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi will face the courts on 14 April. © IMED LAMLOUM/AFP/Getty Images         Read...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Algeria: Pre-election clampdown exposes ‘gaping holes’ in human rights ...
    Source: Amnesty International NZ – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Algeria: Pre-election clampdown exposes ‘gaping holes’ in human rights record     Freedom of expression, association and assembly are under threat ahead of elections in Algeria. © FAROUK BATICHE/AFP/Getty Images    ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Algeria: Pre-election clampdown exposes ‘gaping holes’ in human rights ...
    Source: Amnesty International NZ – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Algeria: Pre-election clampdown exposes ‘gaping holes’ in human rights record     Freedom of expression, association and assembly are under threat ahead of elections in Algeria. © FAROUK BATICHE/AFP/Getty Images    ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Viet Nam: Prisoners of conscience released but dozens remain jailed
    Source: Amnesty International NZ – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Viet Nam: Prisoners of conscience released but dozens remain jailed     Vietnamese activist Nguyen Tien Trung was one of the prisoners of conscience released this week. © Private      ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Viet Nam: Prisoners of conscience released but dozens remain jailed
    Source: Amnesty International NZ – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Viet Nam: Prisoners of conscience released but dozens remain jailed     Vietnamese activist Nguyen Tien Trung was one of the prisoners of conscience released this week. © Private      ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • PM’s China visit assisted Oravida, not Fonterra
    Source: Labour Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: PM’s China visit assisted Oravida, not Fonterra Questions must now be asked whether it was Fonterra or Oravida who really benefited from the Prime Minister’s recent visit to China, Labour’s Primary Industries spokesperson...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • New Zealand’s use of ozone depleting gases increases
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: New Zealand’s use of ozone depleting gases increases A new Government report highlights that the amount of ozone depleting gases New Zealand is using is increasing, the Green Party said today. The report...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • The issues behind the possible MANA-Internet Party Alliance
      Last weekend Kim Dotcom spoke at MANAs AGM to discuss the possibility of the Internet Party and MANA Party working together to defeat John Key this election. As someone who knows both Hone and Kim, I have a unique...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Manufacturing Upgrade
    Source: Labour Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Manufacturing Upgrade   Labour is determined to support and grow our manufacturing sector. These policies grew out of the findings of the 2013 Parliamentary Inquiry into Manufacturing.   – The claims and opinions...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Get work on 29th and the ANZAC spirit deserts the TPPA
      Groser and co would have been spitting tacks last week as the ANZAC spirit deserted the TPPA negotiations. Australia has done a deal directly with Japan which undercuts the demand for Japan to opening all agriculture in the TPPA....
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • No fracking solution to climate change
    Some British tabloids and oil lobbyists have jumped on comments made by an Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change author that fracking could play a role in addressing climate change as an argument for it here in Aotearoa, so is fracking...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • At Last: A Manufacturing Policy
    Source: First Union – Press Release/Statement: Headline: At Last: A Manufacturing Policy Date of Release:  Thursday, April 17, 2014 Body:  FIRST Union congratulates Labour on the release of its Manufacturing policy today. The union represents workers in the wood, food and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Drone murder of New Zealander “justified” by Prime Minister
    Yesterday Prime Minister John Key justified the extrajudicial killing of a New Zealander in a US drone strike in Yemen with a few cynical, callous words at a stand-up press conference. Key said he’d been briefed by our spy agencies...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Secret Policeman’s Ball
      Amnesty International’s Secret Policeman’s Ball is back in New Zealand for one night of some of the best stand-up comedy from both national and international comics The freedom to provoke and in some cases offend is essential to the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • So the US has assassinated a NZ citizen – what did Key know?
    A non judicial assassination by the US on a NZ citizen raises questions. Key made the idea that NZers were training with terrorists part of his farcical defence for the GCSB mass surveillance legislation. I say farcical because even if...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Something Better Than Something Worse: Why John Key could become our longes...
    IN HIS MEMORABLE holiday-home encounter with the host of Campbell Live, the Prime Minister, John Key, did not rule out running for a fourth term. Were he to be successful, the long-standing record of Sir Keith Holyoake (11 years and 2...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • GUEST BLOG: RIO TINTO WINS 2013 ROGER AWARD
      Sky City Casino Second, Chorus Third  The seven finalists for the 2013 Roger Award for the Worst Transnational Corporation Operating in Aotearoa/New Zealand were: ANZ, Chorus, IAG Insurance Group, Imperial Tobacco, Rio Tinto, Sky City Casino and Talent 2. The criteria for judging are...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • National drowning in an ocean of poisoned milk
    It is becoming difficult to keep up with which National Party MP is bleeding the most at the moment. Simon Bridges is being crucified by Whaleoil almost as much as Greenpeace are attacking him, suggesting Cam is seizing the moment...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Want to get rid of synthetic cannabis? Legalize real cannabis
    Have we managed to appreciate the madness that synthetic cannabis is legal yet more harmful than organic cannabis which is illegal? I find the current moral panic over synthetic cannabis difficult to become concerned with when alcohol is FAR more...
    The Daily Blog | 16-04
  • Save our homes – stop the evictions!
    “We will keep on fighting because it frightens me to think my grandchildren could become homeless,” Tere Campbell told me. Tere is a member of Tamaki Housing Group. In September 2011, tenants in 156 state homes in Glen Innes received...
    The Daily Blog | 15-04
  • The daily humiliation of women and the constant policing and shaming of our...
    The last few months have been particularly bad for the shaming and policing of women’s bodies in the media, both in New Zealand and globally. First we had NZ Newstalk ZB presenter Rachel Smalley referring to women weighing over 70kgs...
    The Daily Blog | 15-04
  • Tariana Turia: Labour doesn’t deserve our vote
    Maori Party Co-leader Tariana Turia told TVNZ’s Q+A programme that Labour doesn’t deserve the Maori vote. ‘I don’t believe they deserve our vote any more....
    Scoop politics | 20-04
  • Family Court Consumers Group appalled at legal rort
    Family Court Consumers Group appalled at Lawyer for Child's "1 meeting in 10 years" taxpayer funded legal rort...
    Scoop politics | 19-04
  • Manufacturing Matters to New Zealand – 17 April
    The Labour Party announcement today recognises the simple truth that the manufacturing sector really matters to New Zealand’s economy as a whole, based on the part manufacturing plays in the growth of the added value element in the tradable sector,...
    Scoop politics | 19-04
  • Young Kiwi to Represent New Zealand at Premier Youth Forum
    Young Kiwi to Represent New Zealand at Premier Youth Forum FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Commonwealth Youth New Zealand Executive Director, Aaron Hape, has been selected to represent New Zealand at 33Fifty, the Commonwealth Youth Leadership Programme,...
    Scoop politics | 19-04
  • Lisa Owen interviews Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei
    Greens propose new ministerial disclosure regime based on British rules, requiring quarterly declarations of ministers' meetings, travel and hospitality....
    Scoop politics | 19-04
  • Politicians Should Maintain Workers’ Easter Break
    Family First NZ is rejecting calls for any liberalisation of Easter trading laws and says that workers deserve a break to spend time with their families. “This is not an issue about choice as has been argued. For many workers,...
    Scoop politics | 19-04
  • Lisa Owen interviews experts on Antacrtica
    Lisa Owen interviews Chuck Kennicutt and Gary Wilson on Antarctica Headlines: Top Antarctic scientists warns New Zealand "not ready" for worst as ice shelves and sea ice in Antarctica retreat and the climate changes Gary Wilson: "Can...
    Scoop politics | 19-04
  • Beyond the State – NZ State Houses from Modest to Modern
    As part of the our 'Active Hand of Government' series for 2014, we present Bill McKay, Senior Lecturer, School of Architecture and Planning, speaking to his new publication....
    Scoop politics | 19-04
  • Global unions applaud NZ ‘slave ships’ progress
    Global unions the ITF (International Transport Workers' Federation) and IUF (International Union of Food, Agricultural and Hospitality Workers) today applauded the steps forward made in preventing often shocking abuse of crews on fishing vessels in New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Families before commerce at Easter
    Families before commerce at Easter The retail workers’ union has hit back at critics of New Zealand's modest Easter trading restrictions. "Some things are more important than going to the mall, and for just three and a half days each...
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Easter trading laws archaic, in need of overhaul
    Press release: ACT New Zealand Easter trading laws are outdated and in need of a major overhaul, said ACT leader Jamie Whyte today....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • ALCP welcomes Campbell Live poll result
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party welcomes last night's Campbell Live poll, saying it is an overdue reality check for public opinion on personal cannabis use....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Q+A This Week 20/4/14
    Q+A This Week SUNDAY 20 APRIL, 9AM ON TV ONE The latest on the US-NZ relationship from the US military’s top man in the Pacific, Admiral Samuel J. Locklear . Deputy Political Editor Michael Parkin asks him whether we’re allies,...
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Community detention for pokie theft
    A 67-year-old former company director, convicted of stealing pokie machine profits, was today sentenced to six months community detention, 160 hours of community work and ordered to make reparation of $6,000....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Waitangi National Trust Board Amendment Bill
    The Māori Affairs Committee is inviting public submissions on this bill. The closing date for submissions is Wednesday, 14 May 2014....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Collaboration stops drugs from crossing borders
    Collaboration between Hong Kong and New Zealand Customs has stopped millions of dollars worth of drugs coming into New Zealand this year, with a number of seizures and arrests in both countries....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Call for public enquiry into the future of farming
    Fish & Game NZ is calling for a public enquiry “to examine the future of agriculture in New Zealand”....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Comment on Labour Policy Announcement by NZMEA President
    “This policy release from the Labour Party is so important that if it becomes government policy it would define a shift in New Zealand’s culture,” says Brian Willoughby President of the NZMEA and Managing Director of Plinius Audio and Contex...
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Manufacturing policy makes sense but….
    On the surface much of Labour's prescription for manufacturing is sound though questions remain over some of the detail not yet announced, the Employers and Manufacturers Association says....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Where Are The 15,000 Jobs?
    “Paula Bennett is today proudly telling New Zealand that beneficiary numbers have decreased by 15,000 in the past year. There is no proud declaration that 15,000 jobs have been created in the same period,” says Auckland Action Against Poverty spokesperson,...
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Change of approach to government procurement needed
    The rail engineering industry has been totally let down by National’s lack of manufacturing policy, and Labour’s measures outlined today represent a marked shift in approach to supporting domestic industries, the RMTU said today....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Depreciation Policy Shouldn’t Be Just for Pet Industries
    The Taxpayers’ Union is welcoming Labour’s announcement to beef up rates of depreciation in the manufacturing sector, but is questioning why David Cunliffe is picking winners rather than applying the policy across all sectors. Jordan Williams,...
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • FIFA U-20 World Cup NZ 2015 Kick Off Times Announced
    An array of kick-off times to suit football fans of all ages has been confirmed for the FIFA U-20 World Cup New Zealand 2015. With 52 matches spread across the nation, the public will be able to enjoy a collection...
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • “Legitimate purpose” provides no protection under 167 form
    On Radio New Zealand today, the Privacy Commissioner indicated that ACC could only request information that was "relevant" for a "legitimate purpose". His view was therefore that the ACC167 form is not a "blank cheque" or...
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • State: still keeping you safe on the road this Easter
    The long-awaited Easter/ Anzac break is nearly upon us while the weather may have taken a turn for the worse in several parts of the country, many Kiwis will still be packing up their cars to take a road trip....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Govt plan for community input into residential red zone
    Christchurch Mayor Lianne Dalziel has welcomed Prime Minister John Key’s announcement today of a community participation process for the public to have a say on the future use of the residential red zone....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Governor-General to visit Turkey
    The Governor-General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, is to visit Turkey next week to lead New Zealand’s representation at the annual Gallipoli commemorations....
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Actions of Police prior to death in custody were justified
    A report by the Independent Police Conduct Authority on the death of Adam Palmer while in Police custody found the actions of Police were justified during the arrest. The report also found that Police took all possible steps to try...
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • New Electorate Boundaries Finalised
    New boundaries for the country’s 64 General and seven Māori electorates have been finalised – with an additional electorate created in Auckland. The 2014 Representation Commission has completed its statutory role of reviewing and redrawing electorate...
    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Save The Children Welcomes Strengthening Children’s Rights
    Save the Children New Zealand welcomes a new treaty which allows children to complain directly to the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child about alleged violations of their rights....
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Labour takes manufacturing seriously
    Labour takes manufacturing seriously Manufacturing workers and employers will all benefit from economic policies announced today by the Labour Party leader, David Cunliffe. The Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union has welcomed the announcement...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Manufacturing policy welcomed
    “Today’s announcement of Labour’s manufacturing policy is very welcome,” says CTU Economist Bill Rosenberg. “Just as many other developed countries are realising, having a strong manufacturing sector pays off in good jobs, retaining...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Operation Unite – a Blitz on Drunken Violence
    New Zealand Police are hoping to reduce the number of victims from alcohol related crime by asking the public to say ‘Yeah, Nah’ more often this holiday weekend....
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Dunne Speaks
    Dunne Speaks 17 April 2014 There have been a number of harrowing cases presented this week about the impact of psychoactive substances on vulnerable young people. At one level, the tales are deeply disturbing. It is awful to see anyone...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Research announcement welcomed
    A leading Māori researcher has welcomed the announcement of the 2014 Te Pūnaha Hihiko - Vision Mātauranga Capability Fund by Science and Innovation Minister Steven Joyce and Māori Affairs Minister Dr Pita Sharples....
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • At Last: A Manufacturing Policy
    At Last: A Manufacturing Policy FIRST Union congratulates Labour on the release of its Manufacturing policy today. The union represents workers in the wood, food and textile manufacturing sectors. “In a week that has seen another manufacturing company,...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Republic campaigners still positive after royal visit
    "Campaigners for a New Zealand Head of State are still feeling positive after ten days of royal events" says NZ Republic Chair, Savage. "Our polling before the visit showed increased support for a kiwi head of state. We have a...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Selling homes to foreigners benefits New Zealanders
    Winston Peters has apparently convinced David Cunliffe that when foreigners buy New Zealand property they make New Zealanders worse off. Mr Cunliffe has announced his intention to adopt Winston Peters’ policy of banning foreigners from buying...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Taxpayers’ Union Welcomes Key’s Rejection of ‘Fat Tax’
    The Taxpayers’ Union is welcoming Prime Minister John Key’s rejection of fat and sugar taxes ahead of this year's election. Jordan Williams, Executive Director of the Union, says:...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Law Commission Paper on a New Crown Civil Proceedings Act
    The Law Commission has released A New Crown Civil Proceedings Act for New Zealand , its Issues Paper on reforming the Crown Proceedings Act 1950. The Issues Paper proposes a new statute to replace the Crown Proceedings Act 1950....
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Focus must now go on fishing industry jobs for NZ workers
    Maritime Union says focus must now go on fishing industry jobs for New Zealand workers...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Make the choice to stay safe on the road
    With Easter and Anzac Day giving us two successive long weekends this year there will be a lot of happy families preparing for trips....
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Students Welcome Engagement with StudyLink
    The New Zealand Union of Students’ Associations (NZUSA) has welcomed the improved performance from StudyLink in 2014. There is no doubt that getting their loans and allowances processed on time makes it easier for students to concentrate on being...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Deaf And Hard of Hearing New Zealanders Marginalised
    Deaf And Hard of Hearing New Zealanders Marginalised Imagine if you could not access vital news and information. What would you do?...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Public lose interest in this council, 2016 to be a watershed
    The second term Auckland Council is proving to be an interesting one and very different to the inaugural 2010 – 2013 Governing Body. We are currently going through a budget round to lock in where council’s $3b expenditure is directed...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Labour and National join forces in new Maori confiscations
    Chris McKenzie, former-treaty negotiator and Te Tai Hauauru Maori party candidate, says that the Minister of Primary Industries’ plans to remove temporary exemptions for vessel operators derived from settlement negotiations is akin to confiscation...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • The FCV Bill – Flagging 30 years of failures?
    Paying seafarers at least a minimum wage under the Minimum Wage Act 1983 has applied to the New Zealand fishing industry for more than 30 years. It was, and is, a basic protection which had two universals – it was...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Oxfam’s Morning Tea 2014
    Oxfam’s Morning Tea 2014 Kiwis across the country are getting together over a cuppa to make a difference in the lives of people living in poverty in the developing world. They’re getting involved in Oxfam’s Morning Tea, a fun and...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • 1 in 4 Want to Improve Financial Literacy But Don’t Know How
    1 in 4 Want to Improve Financial Literacy But Don’t Know Where to Go...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
  • Rio Tinto Wins 2013 Roger Award
    Sky City Casino Second, Chorus Third - The criteria for judging are by assessing the transnational (a corporation with 25% or more foreign ownership) that has the most negative impact in each or all of the following categories: economic dominance...
    Scoop politics | 16-04
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