The reality is we’re pretty relaxed about fixing Christchurch

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1. blue leopard 1

   28 June 2014 at 12:05 pm

   Hi James Dann,

   Thanks for the reminder re Christchurch (Chch) for those of us who don’t live there.

   It is something I have noticed about the news; that an event/issue initially is reported far and wide – becomes ‘flavour of the month’ – and then disappears and very little follow up occurs and for those where the issue doesn’t directly affect them – very little is learned about the how the issue has been resolved – or hasn’t and it is largely forgotten. To be fair, this isn’t quite the case with Christchurch because there has been some follow up – (not least because of that flooding issue) but, yes, there could be more to keep us all aware of what it is like for Chch people now, and therefore I think what you are doing here is a very good thing.

   I didn’t know who you are so followed the link in your name which linked to your last post on the Standard and I read it. I am glad you mentioned that Labour lost the election in Chch in your last post because that actually was my perception and I was pretty shocked that was the case. I would have thought that a left government would be far more likely to address issues for people in Chch rather than a right one – the right wing are far more prone to taking advantage of a disaster in order to benefit the small section of society that the right-wing appear to work for (disaster capitalism – ‘The Shock Doctrine’ explains that well). It is good that you appear to be attempting to raise peoples’ awareness of the advantages of a left-wing government in this respect. Regardless of who gets in I hope that things start shifting in a good direction and quickly for Chch people.

   I passed through Christchurch in summer and it was pretty shocking how unchanged the central district appeared (buildings cleared but still looking like nothing other than that had been done). Whilst I acknowledge that there will have been plenty of planning required (and conducted) in order to build up the central district – for personal circumstances such as insurance and rents sky-rocketing (and other things I am not very clued up on no doubt) the government could have been more active to ensure that a dreadful situation wasn’t made worse. Again, I hope this phenomena shifts very quickly. If governments can’t ensure this much – that disasters don’t become more disastrous due to failing to value peoples’ needs – there is something very wrong about government priorities.

   I shall keep an eye on your posts in future to keep myself updated on what is (or is not) shifting in regard in Chch.
   • Heisenbug 1.1

     28 June 2014 at 3:59 pm

     By the time the election came around in 2011 many people, myself included, were already experiencing massive delays in getting earthquake damage even inspected. Almost everyone I knew voted National over fears a change in government could lead to a change in the process, which would add even more delays. I suspect things will be different this time. I hope they will be.
     • blue leopard 1.1.1

       28 June 2014 at 5:03 pm

       I was at a loss as to why people would support National in Christchurch at the last election, that makes so much sense what you say and is very interesting to hear, thanks Heisenbug, for giving me some insight on the matter!
     • Tom Jackson 1.1.2

       28 June 2014 at 10:08 pm

       Well, Labour looks better on this issue, but all our societies have problems with getting big stuff done these days. The Americans can’t even win wars any more.
       • Colonial Viper 1.1.2.1

         28 June 2014 at 10:13 pm

         Despite outspending the next 20-30 countries in terms of military budget

         Makes you wonder where and who exactly that budget is going to.
2. Martin 2

   28 June 2014 at 12:32 pm

   I don’t see any National wins in Christchurch in September.
   Yes Blue, Shock Doctrine nails it. Should be a set text for POLS
   • blue leopard 2.1

     28 June 2014 at 1:47 pm

     At the risk of having my comment moved because it is not on topic – I do wish we had civics in school. Have just been doing some politics papers at University level and it is really good to have more understanding of how our system is organized and some of the theories underlying it. (Not suggesting theory for schools – enough to know how the system works and who represents what)

     I really think it is way past due time to introduce this subject into schools – the more informed in how our system fits together the better decisions we can collectively make, is my opinion. 🙁
     • Tracey 2.1.1

       28 June 2014 at 5:05 pm

       pretty sure it is taught.

       I kmow when i lecture on how laws are made and seperation of powers a bunch say they studied it at school.
       • blue leopard 2.1.1.1

         28 June 2014 at 6:00 pm

         No perhaps is in some schools it is if so it will be a voluntary subject.
         • Colonial Viper 2.1.1.1.1

           28 June 2014 at 6:07 pm

           There is detail on it in official secondary schools curriculum documents.
           • blue leopard 2.1.1.1.1.1

             28 June 2014 at 6:14 pm

             I don’t understand. Are you suggesting when I asked why civics isn’t compulsory in schools in a public meeting last year – the local government rep who responded by saying ‘ it was a tricky issue, yet needed addressing’ was misinformed and that it is a compulsory subject these days?
             • Colonial Viper …

               28 June 2014 at 7:00 pm

               All I know is that there is stuff like this around

               http://nzcurriculum.tki.org.nz/Principles/Future-focus/Tools/New-Zealand-s-Constitution/Resources
               • blue leopard …

                 28 June 2014 at 8:54 pm

                 Cool link. Yeah I think it isn’t yet compulsory for example from that same website:

                 Achievement objectives are provided for social studies, economics, geography, and history, but the range of possible social science disciplines that schools can offer is much broader, including, for example, classical studies, media studies, sociology, psychology, and legal studies.

                 (That page you linked to was legal studies)

                 Also this Jan 9 2013 The NZ National Propaganda – I mean Herald – article:

                 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10858021

                 Perhaps any current teachers reading could confirm?
3. weka 3

   28 June 2014 at 1:21 pm

   Thanks James, good to see Labour’s plans on this. That “it’s been fun” comment should be plastered all over the election campaign.

   as an aside, it might be good for you to put on the bottom of your post that you are a Labour Party candidate. Disclosure and all that.
4. NZJester 4

   28 June 2014 at 2:33 pm

   Of course the two big Christchurch earthquakes where no problem for John Key.
   In fact all that death and destruction was good for him as he was able to use Christchurch as a way to get job growth and lots of photo opportunities. Christchurch is the foundation stone of this ‘Rock Star Economy’ he claims New Zealand has right now and much like Christchurch that foundation stone is on very shaky ground. Most of the job losses around New Zealand have been more than made up for by all the construction jobs created in Christchurch.
   The businesses of Christchurch could have done there own planning and got their own rebuild plans under way quite happily without the government. But no the government moved in and took control over that, meanwhile ignoring those who do need their help, the Christchurch home owners made homeless after the quakes. They do not seam to be to important to National in their rebuild plans for the city.
   Due to Nationals poor performance in helping the average homeowners in Christchurch I will not be surprised if a lot of the City gets Red Zoned this coming election.
   • Lloyd 4.1

     28 June 2014 at 8:44 pm

     Anther group the government seems to have ignored is the property owners in Central Christchurch as they have allowed business development on the outskirts of town and the central business owners won’t have any tenants if they rebuild. Great planning from Cera. Thanks Gerry.
5. MrSmith 5

   28 June 2014 at 5:16 pm

   I’ve been battling EQC from the beginning and still have 3 claims in limbo, off to Court now, what a bloody mess, how many have had the wool pulled over there eyes by EQC., ten’s of thousands!

   You have wonder if National intently undermined and hamstrung EQC from the beginning, with a view to privatizing or handing it over directly to the insurance industry, I mean it fits their MO doesn’t it, the market will provide everything, at a price.

   The other thing that gets me is the missed opportunity to train thousands of Trades people as well, plus Engineers, Surveyors, Architects, etc…. this should have started from the day after the Feb Quake, instead they sat on their hands knowing we would have to import the labour from off-shore, what a sad short sighted bunch National are.
   • mickysavage 5.1

     28 June 2014 at 5:30 pm

     I heard one of the polytechs made an offer to start training carpenters but this was turned down …
     • Colonial Viper 5.1.1

       28 June 2014 at 9:00 pm

       Why train Kiwis when you can get cheaper tradies fron the Philippines or Ireland?

       Friggin country is imploding under the current “leadership.”
   • Matthew Whitehead 5.2

     29 June 2014 at 5:30 pm

     The government’s actually been pretty supportive of EQC, and has largely stayed out of our business in terms of settling earthquake claims, and left us to proceed as per the Act. (This isn’t necessarily a good thing, I would have been more comfortable with this recovery happening under a Labour government where the recovery efforts would be better stitched-up, and we’d be utilising this opportunity to insulate or improve the repaired homes, not just putting them back as-was)

     Agree with you on tradespeople too, was a missed opportunity to skill up a lot of people, not that migrants aren’t always welcome in my books.

     As for your claims- I can’t speak for the Christchurch office, but here in Wellington I’m definitely sure we’re all in it to get you settled and done, when we’re legally allowed to. A lot of the issues come from sorting out adequate ways to deal with messy insurance problems, (don’t get me started on Body Corporates, if people followed the law on that we’d be done with all of the MUBs by now) negotiating around cap properties with private insurers, and just generally the enormous scale of the job we’ve had to do. EQC has also not been great at proactive communication when it scaled up- we focused too much on settlement, and it’s caused a lot of distress while people waited. In some ways it would have been better to scale up settlement slower but manage communications much better- I’ve brought some good ideas around integrated reporting of claims to management, and it looks like they were already working on that for post-canterubry EQC, so if there’s another major event, you’ll literally be able to log in on our website and check what stage your claim is at and browse any information we can make transparent to you. 🙂

     I know the process seems really slow and ineffective to the people of Canterbury and I wish we could be done faster, but the sad fact is, this is actually the fastest large-scale insurance program in terms of getting houses repaired. Japan has settled claims faster, but that’s because they cash settled everyone, and they didn’t do exact costings- they just estimated you to the closest 25% of the value of your house, and the other event of comparable size- Hurricane Katrina- happened earlier and repairs really haven’t even started yet, so I’m really pleased that we have EQC in place on a policy level, as Christchurch would probably be a dead city if it were up to the private insurers only.
6. Treetop 6

   28 June 2014 at 5:57 pm

   Journalists have been asleep at the wheel for far too long, they have not held the government to account in fixing the critical state of housing in this country.

   National have missed the point, what a severe earthquake can do to housing.
7. Brendon Harre 7

   28 June 2014 at 6:34 pm

   There has been a good discussion about Christchurch and Housing at interest.co.nz

   It started with an article I wrote about the Christchurch rental market, history of urban planning and some discussion of urban planning theories and research.

   http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/70493/fridays-top-10-brendon-harr%25C3%25A9-national-vs-labour-housing-affordability-uk-councils-spy-

   A ‘capitalist’ counter attack from Muriel Newman
   http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/70527/data-home-ownership-and-facts-about-affordability-have-become-highly-politicised-says-

   Bernard Hickey explaining why it is in everyone’s interest to control house inflation
   http://thestandard.org.nz/the-reality-is-were-pretty-relaxed-about-fixing-christchurch/#comments

   Finally Labour’s recent housing plan for Canterbury
   http://www.interest.co.nz/property/70685/labour-would-build-10000-affordable-homes-canterbury-over-four-years-and-increase-acc

   Often the comments are more revealing than the actual articles so for those that are interested make sure you read them too.
   • Treetop 7.1

     29 June 2014 at 1:46 pm

     “There has been a good discussion about Christchurch and Housing at interest.co.nz”

     Discussion has worn thin with me re housing, unless resources/money is made available to fix the many housing problems, no action will occur.

     Thanks for supplying the links which I will read.
8. Redzone 8

   28 June 2014 at 8:46 pm

   Great post James and all the best in Ilam v minister of destruction Brownlie.! Looking forward to Milne kicking out Wagner in chch Central too. She’s toast.

   Keys recent atitude to chch is appalling and patronising in the extreme – The ‘thanks it’s been fun’ insult- WTF!

   Frankly if there isn’t a ribbon cutting sod turning photo op down here Key doesn’t give a shit.

   Revenge awaits at the polls in a matter of weeks!
9. Still Waiting 9

   29 June 2014 at 5:00 pm

   The Christchurch quakes have certainly been no fun for me … just endless fighting with the EQC and my private insurer for settlement … in fact they still haven’t settled my contents claim! It’s been extremely stressful, expensive and has been a huge eye-opener for me just how little our own Govt cares about it’s people. I’ve never voted anything but National in my life, but won’t be doing so in the coming elections.
   • Matthew Whitehead 9.1

     29 June 2014 at 5:39 pm

     Are we still waiting for info from you for your contents claim? Because the only ones we’re supposed to have left are ones requiring clarification either from the customer or with insurance to still be verified, so you should get in touch with our call centre for that and they’ll see what the Hamilton office needs or can do to progress your claim. I’m sorry you’ve had such a bad experience. 🙁

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