Written By: - Date published: 12:14 pm, September 7th, 2008 - 77 comments
Categories: humour, national -
Tags: billboards
The Greens billboards have shown how it’s done – striking and simple without being dishonest or simplistic. Maybe National could imitate them:
Maybe not.
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Brett Dale:
I lol’d. You are doing an excellent job at satire there yourself. You are a hilarious parody of your stereotypical RWNJ.
Brett please put those thoughts into a sentence so they may be addressed.
Brett, do you consider the Monty Python skit “upper class twit of the year” racist and sexist?
Is The Simpsons racist and sexist because Monty Burns is a white male?
Were the IWI/KIWI billboards racist?
How about the Mcain campaign calling Obama ‘presumptuous’?
What if it was ‘uppity’ instead, would that be racist?
How about Dykeocracy? Is that sexist? Or nanny state? Does that offend you?
I’m only asking because you seem to take this stuff seriously, and those examples after the Monty Burns aren’t satire so I’m genuinely interested in your thoughts.
It’s not so much that people disagree with you Brett, it’s that no-one can follow what you are on about.
weka: it’s about getting on the piss and letting it all out as far as I can follow.
*How about Dykeocracy? Is that sexist? *
That’d be homophobic or heterosexist
Weka, true enough, if the targets of that jibe were always lesbian eh.
Excellent!!!!
Surly your not comparing the great Monty Burns of the simpsons to thestandard?
The Simpsons is funny because it has a go at everybody, at all sterotypes, not just one.
PB, ae some people seem to think that calling a het woman a dyke is the worst thing you can say. Still seems pretty homophobic to me.
Hey Brett, give it a rest man. The picture here wasn’t from the Green Party. It was a mock up by SP. You didn’t think it was funny, fair enough. You make a good point that SP wouldn’t dare use a picture of an obese Maori voter as typical of labour-voting, because that would be considered racist. You could have also made the point that the picture above could well have been party vote labour, with a picture of crusty old George Hawkins, Harry Duynhoven, Michael Cullen, Mark Burton, etc etc.
When it comes to crusty old white guys, there are far more in Labour’s caucus than there are in any other political party. Equally, SP knows that when it comes to diversity National has a lot more to choose from, with candidates who are actually going to make it into Parliament, than what Labour’s got. In reality the real National Party vote billboard would have young and talented people like Nikki Kaye, Melissa Lee, Sam Lotu-Iiga, Simon Bridges, Hekia Parata, etc etc. Even John Key is a generation younger than Helen Clark.
I think the Standard is entitled to post anonymously. Call them out individually when their authors are being partisan, sure. It works much more effectively than trying to rail against the whole machine. There’s plenty of argument you can come up with on such a poor effort as this from SP. This was an attempt at humour. Some people found it funny. You didn’t. That’s life. But if you’re going to argue against it, use the arguments rather than attacking the whole site.
The captcha is “so Aldershot”. Maybe I’ve been hanging around this place too long, but this is the second time I’ve seen the word “Aldershot” in a Standard captcha. It is still only the second time I’ve ever seen the word “aldershot”. Anybody know, without resorting to a dictionary or google, what an Aldershot is?
Aldershot is town in UK with an large British Army camp
Brett is a member of the PC police.
Maybe a post-lobotomy patient should have used in the piss take instead? Not very sensitive, but much nearer the mark given the unbearable dribble emanating from those of a right wing bent in the comments above.
On the matter of the Green billboards, pretty good. Could easily have slipped into mash potato smaltz, but haven’t.
weka, sorry for being unclear. Im certainly not saying that it’s not homophobic, it most certainly is. It’s also sexist though yeah?
I sort of understood the term to be based around the idea that political, or any other sort of power, is inherently masculine.
Therefore where any women have any power they must be ‘faux women’;therefore ‘Lesbians’; therefore ‘Dykeocracy’. So both homophobic on it’s face, and sexist at heart. It’s a twofer!
Brett.
Nope, I’m comparing the stereotype in this post to Monty Burns, because it’s the same stereotype.
How about those IWI/KIWI billboards?
How about a picture of Mr. Burns.
Now that’s a good idea – but better for last election, not this one.
Looking at National’s energy, environment, and climate change policies, what about the Huntly power station, or a giant open-cast coal mine?
(Captcha = abrogated bases. They belonged to us, but we’re giving them away…)
Personally I thought those billboards were not that amusing, I guess some people who like low brow humor thought they were funny.
I thought the reaction to them was the funniest thing about them.
Well done oob, I’ve learned something new without having to google it. That’s pretty rare nowadays.
I didn’t think they were funny either. It honestly hadn’t occurred to me that they were meant to be . I do think they were effective though.
There’s got to be a worser way:
http://i36.tinypic.com/ngoapg.jpg
(the bad grammar intentional, in line with other right-wing billboards)
” you cant make fun of one sector and say you cant make fun of another”
This is the heart of it, and the coronary comes when you are talking about power relationships.
Godwin alert!
It’s one thing to make Nazi jokes along the lines of Harry Enfield’s ‘Not too Camp’ jibes, or sing songs about the number of gonads various reich officials could claim possession of.
Joking about how many Jews can fit in a VW? Not so funny.
Hey, PB, just watched upper class twit of the year – thanks for that, I like a laugh of a Sunday afternoon.
“How about a picture of Mr. Burns.”
I take a better photo than Brendon does and I own a nuclear power plant.
Last election the local nats billboard actually DID have a picture of Mr Burns plastered over it.
Happen anywhere else?
Chris – was it Peter, Brendon or Monty Burns?
Steve Pierson said: The Greens billboards have shown how it’s done – striking and simple without being dishonest or simplistic. Maybe National could imitate them:
Nope, they won’t get it together Steve, Thay can’t even get the grammar correct.
I’d say maximise the Party vote for the Greens. That’s the best way to give the big finger to those with a far-right agenda who back National and their hidden agenda.
Given the policies, the Nats would have to be swallowing dead rats for the next 3 years to get Green support!
When it comes to crusty old white guys, there are far more in Labour’s caucus than there are in any other political party.
Ahh, wrong.
Equally, SP knows that when it comes to diversity National has a lot more to choose from, with candidates who are actually going to make it into Parliament, than what Labour’s got.
Wrong again. You’re usually more accurate than this Tim.
Steve money was donated to your blog by Labour who paid for your server hosting am I not correct!!
[lprent: Wrong (as usual).
The Labour party has never paid for anything to do with this blog. A kind organization donated some server space to the NZLP. Needless to say the NZLP had absolutely no idea what to do with this. So they gave control of it to some activists to provide facilities for other left activists. When the standard was falling over due to lack of bandwidth, access to the servers was offered and accepted.
So the NZLP has never paid anything to maintain this site. The server space you're referring to was paid for by the donor. Of course that idiot Whale is incapable of understanding subtleties like that, just as I suspect you are.
Rather than let the NZLP put up with undeserved flak from the bottom feeders around the blogs, after 3 weeks, I moved the site to my home server. Shortly thereafter put it in the linux server that it now resides in, and steadily increased my payments to keep the resource levels up.
Now I take great pleasure in terminating idiots like you who even mention the topic here. I consider that it shows a considerable level of stupidity bearing in mind the number of times I've explained this. I'm tired of it so I *love* making examples of people who mention it in my presence - I like helping people achieve martyrdom.
Banned for ummm 2 months to contemplate . E-mail me after the election to get removed from the blacklist. I'm putting you there because you do not ban yourself, and put too many messages into the moderation queue.]
Monty burns. Definitely.
I think I have a photo somewhere.
It wasn’t an airbrushed photo of him trying to look twenty years younger? Just like Miss Clark does every election.
[lprent: You're looking to me like a troll. Lift your Standard or leave. So far I haven't seen anything useful in any of your comments. ]
Rob,
Even I know you’re not correct.
This has been canvassed (and recanvassed) so many times that the facts have passed into our collective mind (except, apparently, yours).
“At least kiwiblog doesn?t resort to these sorts of blatant hate posts.”
Bahahahahahahahaha
Rob. Before I joined the collective, the Standard was hosted on server space that Labour had been donated and passed on to us for a total of 7 days.
The Standard had outgrown our previous server, the Labour offer was accepted, perhaps unwisely, but they decided The Standard needed bigger space to grow into than Labour had given anyway and moved on to our current server, which Lynn pays for. There was no money from Labour for the cost of the server at any point.
Yup, there was 7 days on a server, server space worth approximately bugger all a year (what’s 7/365ths of bugger all?)
[lprent: The NZLP didn't even pay for that space for 21 days. It was a donation to them. So as usual he is dead wrong - and now banned.]
Christopher Nimmo:
I remember one between Hamilton and Raglan with Burns pasted over Brash. The resemblance was striking.
Thought The Standard’s readers might also like this one.
Pretty weak, actually, I thought the Greens were above gutter politics.
Does anyone here really think that is going to happen under a centre right Government?