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		<title>By: northpaw</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/the-standard-wager/comment-page-1/#comment-113749</link>
		<dc:creator>northpaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi.. again..

Re: &quot;Do-fest&quot;

has me wondering some.. because my partners originated the term e-DO (in-house back then it was i-DO till modesty imposed itself on mindful folks). the in use the DO bit does not, of course, interpret anything like the &quot;do-fest&quot; substitute connotation â€” more mathematical, rational. logical and learned than this weaker, lowercased variety â€” in other words it achieves by direction..

come to think of it.. literally.. maybe that is exactly what enzed needs right now.. but then of course.. and in the wider context operative it WILL cost.. though yes, not be so-called predicated economic methods..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi.. again..</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;Do-fest&#8221;</p>
<p>has me wondering some.. because my partners originated the term e-DO (in-house back then it was i-DO till modesty imposed itself on mindful folks). the in use the DO bit does not, of course, interpret anything like the &#8220;do-fest&#8221; substitute connotation â€” more mathematical, rational. logical and learned than this weaker, lowercased variety â€” in other words it achieves by direction..</p>
<p>come to think of it.. literally.. maybe that is exactly what enzed needs right now.. but then of course.. and in the wider context operative it WILL cost.. though yes, not be so-called predicated economic methods..</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Pilott</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/the-standard-wager/comment-page-1/#comment-113561</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Pilott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lew - fewer hui?  (Not really National&#039;s style, the old &#039;fewer&#039;, I guess)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lew &#8211; fewer hui?  (Not really National&#8217;s style, the old &#8216;fewer&#8217;, I guess)</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/the-standard-wager/comment-page-1/#comment-113554</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even more meaningless is one news presentation of the summit.  &quot;Shonky has returned from holiday to announce his plan; to have a summit.&quot;  We are all saved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even more meaningless is one news presentation of the summit.  &#8220;Shonky has returned from holiday to announce his plan; to have a summit.&#8221;  We are all saved.</p>
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		<title>By: Lew</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/the-standard-wager/comment-page-1/#comment-113513</link>
		<dc:creator>Lew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PB: &lt;i&gt;â€˜more doey, less hui&#039;&lt;/i&gt; 

This was my thought as well. 

Question is: what can they actually do without parliament? Isn&#039;t a party summit the definition of `talk-fest&#039;?

L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PB: <i>â€˜more doey, less hui&#8217;</i> </p>
<p>This was my thought as well. </p>
<p>Question is: what can they actually do without parliament? Isn&#8217;t a party summit the definition of `talk-fest&#8217;?</p>
<p>L</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/the-standard-wager/comment-page-1/#comment-113509</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Herald&#039;s articles are bizarre.

Firstly, Fran would have us believe that John has sense a of urgency. &quot;Key, who flew back to Auckland overnight from his Hawaiian holiday pad&quot; I can just envisage the stressful haste as John donned his &#039;Key Man&#039; super hero cape before dashing to catch that last minute night plane.

Apparently he forgot to go to the toilet before boarding though. 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10551933

As John Armstrong reliably informs us  Key hit the ground running. A desperate hobbling &#039;rush&#039; to the nearest bog seems the likely explanation &#039;cause all he did, according to Armstrong, was announce an &quot;Employment Summit&quot; next month? Following on from his &quot;Job Summit&quot;? So confusing when your desperate, but wait!..... What a relief!

Meetings about meetings anyone?

Top of the agenda, arranging a meeting to discuss the possibility of a summit on toilet seat etiquette perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Herald&#8217;s articles are bizarre.</p>
<p>Firstly, Fran would have us believe that John has sense a of urgency. &#8220;Key, who flew back to Auckland overnight from his Hawaiian holiday pad&#8221; I can just envisage the stressful haste as John donned his &#8216;Key Man&#8217; super hero cape before dashing to catch that last minute night plane.</p>
<p>Apparently he forgot to go to the toilet before boarding though. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&#038;objectid=10551933" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&#038;objectid=10551933</a></p>
<p>As John Armstrong reliably informs us  Key hit the ground running. A desperate hobbling &#8216;rush&#8217; to the nearest bog seems the likely explanation &#8217;cause all he did, according to Armstrong, was announce an &#8220;Employment Summit&#8221; next month? Following on from his &#8220;Job Summit&#8221;? So confusing when your desperate, but wait!&#8230;.. What a relief!</p>
<p>Meetings about meetings anyone?</p>
<p>Top of the agenda, arranging a meeting to discuss the possibility of a summit on toilet seat etiquette perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: A topic for the NACT talk-fest. Needs a slogan for success. at The Standard 2.02</title>
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		<dc:creator>A topic for the NACT talk-fest. Needs a slogan for success. at The Standard 2.02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a good one. Then JK and the rest of the lethagic NACT bunnies can sprout it off at their upcoming talk-fest and might actually do something useful. While it is unlikely that they can do much about jobs - [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a good one. Then JK and the rest of the lethagic NACT bunnies can sprout it off at their upcoming talk-fest and might actually do something useful. While it is unlikely that they can do much about jobs &#8211; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jafapete</title>
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		<dc:creator>jafapete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, too late to place a bet. I think Fran won with &quot;Jobs summit crucial step in the right direction&quot;:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10551738</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, too late to place a bet. I think Fran won with &#8220;Jobs summit crucial step in the right direction&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&#038;objectid=10551738" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&#038;objectid=10551738</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think do-fest is too stupid and clumsy a phrase for even our abominable media to repeat outside of direct quote &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I guess they were were thinking of the old &#039;more doey, less hui&#039; . Trust the nats to turn a nice colloquilism like that into &#039;doofus&#039;.

In any case, it&#039;s a fncking talkfest ffs. What exactly are they going to &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; there? I wonder if anyone will ask them. Perhaps they could put clips of themselves on youtube not talking to anybody at a jobs summit.

&#039;a rolling maul of initiatives&#039;. Drop kick me jesus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5Y1OuQIxo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think do-fest is too stupid and clumsy a phrase for even our abominable media to repeat outside of direct quote </p></blockquote>
<p>I guess they were were thinking of the old &#8216;more doey, less hui&#8217; . Trust the nats to turn a nice colloquilism like that into &#8216;doofus&#8217;.</p>
<p>In any case, it&#8217;s a fncking talkfest ffs. What exactly are they going to <i>do</i> there? I wonder if anyone will ask them. Perhaps they could put clips of themselves on youtube not talking to anybody at a jobs summit.</p>
<p>&#8216;a rolling maul of initiatives&#8217;. Drop kick me jesus.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5Y1OuQIxo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5Y1OuQIxo</a></p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m seeing the Knowledge Wave all over again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m seeing the Knowledge Wave all over again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Embarrased for the NZ Media the way they were virtually licking keys arse today &quot;the prime minister was looking tanned and well rested and ready to tackle the economic crisis&quot; Oh please!!!!!!!!! Hes been skiving off for 4 weeks doing fucking nothing......but we had better get used to that!

And yippy...cant wait for all those jobs that will come out of Keys talkfest....just what we needed another meeting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Embarrased for the NZ Media the way they were virtually licking keys arse today &#8220;the prime minister was looking tanned and well rested and ready to tackle the economic crisis&#8221; Oh please!!!!!!!!! Hes been skiving off for 4 weeks doing fucking nothing&#8230;&#8230;but we had better get used to that!</p>
<p>And yippy&#8230;cant wait for all those jobs that will come out of Keys talkfest&#8230;.just what we needed another meeting!</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dufess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dufess?</p>
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		<title>By: Robinsod</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/the-standard-wager/comment-page-1/#comment-113485</link>
		<dc:creator>Robinsod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin is on holiday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin is on holiday.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Pilott</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/the-standard-wager/comment-page-1/#comment-113484</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Pilott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...from Key&#039;s spin doctors.&lt;/i&gt;

A &#039;do-fest&#039;?  Sod off SP, there&#039;s no way a spin-doctor came up with that one, a tuppence says that came from Key himself.

I&#039;d almost wager C/T do some pro-bono work for Key, that&#039;s just embarrassing.  Imagine, you work with a guy intimately for over a year, his first chance comes up to show what he&#039;s learned, and he comes up with that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;from Key&#8217;s spin doctors.</i></p>
<p>A &#8216;do-fest&#8217;?  Sod off SP, there&#8217;s no way a spin-doctor came up with that one, a tuppence says that came from Key himself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d almost wager C/T do some pro-bono work for Key, that&#8217;s just embarrassing.  Imagine, you work with a guy intimately for over a year, his first chance comes up to show what he&#8217;s learned, and he comes up with that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robinsod</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/the-standard-wager/comment-page-1/#comment-113483</link>
		<dc:creator>Robinsod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think do-fest is too stupid and clumsy a phrase for even our abominable media to repeat outside of direct quote...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think do-fest is too stupid and clumsy a phrase for even our abominable media to repeat outside of direct quote&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/the-standard-wager/comment-page-1/#comment-113480</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Was there a common factor in these?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Yep, they&#039;re all phrases which have only been used by the linguistically, grammatically and historically challenged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Was there a common factor in these?</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, they&#8217;re all phrases which have only been used by the linguistically, grammatically and historically challenged.</p>
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