The TPPA removes free trade

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1. Draco T Bastard 1

   9 October 2013 at 1:12 pm

   So why are we getting involved in this fiasco again?

   So that the rich can get richer through artificial restrictions that up the price on the poor.
2. Tracey 2

   9 October 2013 at 1:21 pm

   Sky can but don’t because no one will stop them. Ever tried their customer service? It’s appalling as you expect from a company that knows you are trapped. You either pay or bugger off. They do everything to get you but once you are in… they don’t give a crap about your complaints. Like the rain interference disruption on a sunny day…
3. Tracey 3

   9 October 2013 at 1:22 pm

   “TPPA appears to be more about the restriction of trade than the freedom of trade”

   which is why it’s not called an FTA…perhaps they were inadvertently being honest?
4. clifford wright 4

   9 October 2013 at 4:15 pm

   Well!! All the monetarist morons are raving on about Adam Smith and free trade.
   He must be spinning in his grave faster than a jet engine!
   Those idiots have several things in common, no knowledge of history and a refusal to read the alleged sources of the very economic theory to support.
   I have read “The Wealth of Nations” and on page 6 in my edition Smith basically says that the expansion of trade can only come from exploiting new lands and inventing new technologies.

   For their information 1-There ain’t no new lands (except in space) and they are doing their level best to kill any space programmes.
   2- They violently distrust new technologies (except where they can be used to control the population)
   since they are almost exclusively orientated to exploiting the current situation and are generally
   technically and scientifically ignorant.

   So- Where’s this mythical wealth coming from?

   This latest effort is indeed a perfect example of a “restraint of trade”, if I remember rightly that is actually forbidden in the US constitution.
5. Doug 5

   9 October 2013 at 4:52 pm

   So let me get this right. it will be illegal to buy a region 1 or 2 DVD from Amazon even though you are presumably paying to the copyright holder for the use of it?
   • infused 5.1

     9 October 2013 at 11:00 pm

     Regardless, you’ve never meant to be able to use them.
     • Colonial Viper 5.1.1

       9 October 2013 at 11:04 pm

       Really? Then why did they make the encryption so easy to bypass?
     • Doug 5.1.2

       10 October 2013 at 9:02 am

       And why does Amazon sell them? Is it Ok for a large corporation to ignore the law and mislead customers?
6. bad12 6

   9 October 2013 at 5:15 pm

   ”There will never be immediate access for New Zealand products into every one of these markets instantly…there will be a realistic time-frame. Maybe it’s 10 years, maybe its a bit less, a bit more.” unquote Slippery the Prime Minister,

   What the PM is talking about is unfettered access to US and Japanese markets for New Zealand goods, 10 years or longer,

   Really, and i have to ask, obviously not in the expectation of an answer, just what immediate access for New Zealand is being given away to the US, Japan and anyone else for the priviledge of immediate access to New Zealand markets,

   The only thing we can expect from such a ‘sell out’ is more job losses in the Cities and more coin in the pockets of the Dairy industry,

   Enough extra taxation accruing to the Government perhaps to pay another 20,000 welfare benefits???…
7. tracey 7

   9 October 2013 at 9:14 pm

   even wayne mapp concedes it will be many decades before teade tarifds in the us and japan are at zero.

   the pm continues to lie on this topic, just as he did with the ratification nonsense. he knows people will think that means parliament decides. parliament doesnt decide and key knows it.

   its the very fact that the people cant change the treaty that makes this one so secret and far more than an fta. corporate usa has found a way to screw us all without our permission.
8. tracey 8

   9 October 2013 at 9:17 pm

   bad12

   we dumped almost all our tarifds years ago. we dropped our trousers and bent over. all tgats left is for us to drool at the usa and japanese delegations and hope they want to roger us soon.

   apparently prosperity will flow our way but it wont be reflected in real wage increases for most kiwis.
   • bad12 8.1

     10 October 2013 at 12:38 am

     What Slippery the Prime Minister is essentially saying is that in the case of Japan and the US there is NO guarantee whatsoever that they will remove barriers to trade,

     The ”10 years, maybe less, maybe more” of the PM’s quoted comments on the TPPA simply say that there will be NO fixed time-frame for other countries to lower their trade barriers and with all due respect to everyone’s sensibilities i still find myself saying ”Why the fuck then are New Zealand discussing anything with these people”,

     Off hand there is only one logical answer to the question so posed, that being that the Slippery little Shyster, the International Trader, who has turned the Office of New Zealand Prime Minister into little more than the tin shack found on any used car sales-lot has SOLD US OUT, lock, stock, and barrells…
9. tricldrown 9

   9 October 2013 at 10:26 pm

   No countries as powerful as the US or Japan are not going to reduce farm subsidies .
   The right wing of these countries rely on the rural vote to stay in power.
10. tricldrown 10

    9 October 2013 at 10:26 pm

    No countries as powerful as the US or Japan are not going to reduce farm subsidies .
    The right wing of these countries rely on the rural vote to stay in power.
11. Sable 11

    9 October 2013 at 11:36 pm

    I’m twenty years from retiring and I’m pretty sure I wont be retiring to NZ or Australia. Bali is starting to sound pretty appealing, that’s assuming they don’t decide to kill me as soon as they see the NZ passport.

    These governments can stick their pro US arse kissing…
12. Tracey 12

    10 October 2013 at 8:48 am

    Tricldown

    which is precicely why the tppa has to stay secret… so key can mislead with no danger of contradiction until he has his knighthood and his bure on the beach
13. xtasy 13

    10 October 2013 at 11:00 pm

    All the television MSM had to report on that was one John (Hollow) Key musing about how he could butt lick the 4th richest prick on earth, the Sultan of Brunei, and how that man can afford so much gold in his mansions and hundreds or thousands of luxury cars, while some of his subordinates live in bamboo huts on the foreshore.

    So that was on the news of TV3 and TVNZ’s One tonight, thank you MSM, for informing us on nothing relevant, and drumming nonsensical bullshit into the minds of the wider populace.

    I am sure the pissing trickle down works well in Brunei, as Key tried to justify with their wealth, the reason why we should drill and exploit oil and gas here, to do the same. Trickle down according to Key must be like showering in his piss trickling from his Parnell mansion at night.

    Welcome to Aotearoa 2013!
    • xtasy 13.1

      11 October 2013 at 8:53 pm

      Correction:

      While the Sultan of Brunei was some decades ago the richest “prick” on the globe, he is now ranked a bit lower, but of course still as one of the richest individuals there are.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassanal_Bolkiah

      Extract:

      “Interests

      The Sultan has one of the world’s largest and most expensive car collections, numbering in the thousands. Some brands, including Bentley, Ferrari, Bugatti, and Rolls-Royce, make new cars exclusively for the Sultan that are not sold or advertised to the public.

      The Sultan’s involvement in sports includes playing polo, golf, and badminton. He also enjoys race car driving, piloting helicopters, and aircraft. On international trips, he pilots his own Boeing 747-400.[38] He is also very fond of gold and has a Rolls-Royce coated with 24k gold.

      He often enjoys fine cigars, and has a notable favorite, the Gurkha Centurian, that was commissioned specifically for him.[39]

      His 1,800-room palace, the Istana Nurul Iman, is considered the world’s largest private residence.”

      Also read:
      http://www.bornrich.com/sultan-haji-hassanal-bolkiah.html

      It seems John Key just loves such social circles, made for him to “grease” and “slime”.
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