The voices of the GCSB protest

Written By: - Date published: 6:53 am, August 20th, 2013 - 66 comments
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The Auckland Town Hall was full – nearly 2000 people – for the GCSB protest last night (with more people being turned away at the doors). Update – full video of the whole event (all speakers) is now up on YouTube:

This meeting comes along with the results of the Campbell Live poll:

How many did we get? 52,666 – way more than the online snapper submissions, and in a much shorter time.

It’s also the biggest poll in TV3 history, significantly more than any online or text poll either we or 3 News have ever run, and text polls are much easier to vote in.

And here’s the results – 11 percent of you supported the GCSB bill. That was 5879 votes. And 89 percent of you opposed it. That was 46,790. If you didn’t vote, you had a week to do so. And if you did vote, thank you, whatever side of the issue you were on.

Finally, some photos of the audience. Bravo to all!

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  1. phillip ure 1
    20 August 2013 at 7:16 am

    christie and mutch are two ‘voices’ who have opined..

    http://whoar.co.nz/2013/comment-tvnz-breajfast-mini-review-jessica-mutch-does-it-again-confirms-her-crown-as-new-zealands-worst-political-journalist-ever/

    (excerpt:..)

    “..ed:..go to tvnz online and watch christie and mutch talking about the anti-spooking town hall meeting..

    (tho’ i would advise you put any objects suitable for hurling at the screen out of arms’ reach..just to be safe/sure..)

    ..and see mutch pull off the stunning trick of making christie look like the serious one/intellectual of the two..(!).(i kid you not..!..)..”

    phillip ure..

    • amirite 1.1
      20 August 2013 at 8:00 am

      We don’t have journalists in the MSM. We can’t call these sycophantic, uncritical, arse licking followers of a personality cult professionals.

    • Sable 1.2
      20 August 2013 at 9:25 am

      I don’t remember the last time I watched a mainstream news show. They are, as you can see not “mutch” use. Misinformation and Tory drum beating seem to be standard fare for most of them.

      Personally I just ignore them and based on this poll so do most other New Zealanders.

  2. karol 2
    20 August 2013 at 7:25 am

    Full 2 hour video of the meeting here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsn3VXl2xE0

    • Carol Hadfield 2.1
      20 August 2013 at 9:18 am

      thank you Karol – also for the transcript on the campbell live interview.

    • freedom 2.2
      20 August 2013 at 10:55 am

      it seems to have been taken down/blocked/hidden/thrown into a small cybercell to sit amongst the detritus of truth, where reality quietly rocks on its haunches awaiting its execution.

      As Winston Smith said
      “Stones are hard. Water is wet”

  3. phillip ure 3
    20 August 2013 at 7:41 am

    (this morning we have seen the night and day of mainstream journalism..first the mutch/christie sad excuse for the profession..

    ..and then smalley plays a blinder..)

    http://whoar.co.nz/2013/comment-tv3-breakfast-mini-review-did-john-key-just-admit-the-spooking-is-being-set-up-for-corporates-to-spy-on-us-oh-and-rachel-smalley-does-a-ripper-of-an-interview-of-key-one-that-t/

    (excerpt:..)

    “..ed:..i would recommend going to tv3 on-demand to watch the smalley interview of key..

    ..to see a masterclass from both..

    ..smalley does a ripper of a job as an interviewer/journalist..

    ..and key gives a master-class in political ducking/weaving/slime-ing..”

    phillip ure..

    • Linz 3.1
      20 August 2013 at 8:42 am

      I heard that. Key: “if any company approaches us for a warrant….”
      What the FARC!

      • vto 3.1.1
        20 August 2013 at 9:47 am

        link linz?

      • Linz 3.1.2
        20 August 2013 at 10:08 am

        Sorry, I watched it live. I have recorded just the sound of the interview. Can anyone tell me how to make that available. It’s pretty bad quality.

        • yeshe 3.1.2.1
          20 August 2013 at 10:14 am

          what format do u hv it recorded in ?

        • karol 3.1.2.2
          20 August 2013 at 10:24 am

          The sound quality in the Hall was poor – for me at the front of the Hall, I was hearing 2 versions – one from the speakers at the front, and an echo from the back. Various media people had their own mics on the lectern. They probably recorded better quality. The audio quality of the youtube vid of the meeting sounds good – at least at the beginning.

          • phillip ure 3.1.2.2.1
            20 August 2013 at 10:51 am

            that sound quality started off well..(upstairs/front)….then it went pear-shaped..voice + voice on slight-delay..)

            ..for the rest of proceedings..

            ..and a bit of a shocker that it wasn’t fixed/attended to..

            ..i had tongue-bleed from heckle-suppression…

            ..a ‘f.f.s!..fix the sound!’ screaming to be heard..

            ..(all that stopped me was thinking it was maybe just where i was..

            ..and in hindsight..i should have..

            ..n’z’ers are far too polite..sometimes..)

            phillip ure..

    • Sable 3.2
      20 August 2013 at 9:27 am

      NZ rates poorly for journalism on an international scale, I have been saying this forever. The mainstream media in NZ and Australia are bottom feeders, pure and simple.

  4. Sable 4
    20 August 2013 at 9:18 am

    I voted for this one, no secret which why the wind blew with me. I feel reassured that that the people of this country are not sheep and are in fact, quite discerning.

    The bullshit from the vast majority of mainstream media, such as the incredibly ignorant article by Kerre McIvor and other journalistic hacks isn’t having the effect they had hoped for.

    So BM and Srylands, anything to say to all of this? Looks to me like the facts speak for themselves. Care to comment?

    • Richard Christie 4.1
      20 August 2013 at 9:31 am

      …incredibly ignorant article by Kerre McIvor

      You are not wrong. I could hardly believe that someone could publicly identify themselves as being so terminally stupid.

    • BM 4.2
      20 August 2013 at 9:36 am

      I quite like the friezes in the town hall, it’s a real jewel in Aucklands crown.

      Didn’t realize there were still so many historical buildings left in Auckland, I thought they all got shitcanned back in the 80’s

      Just noticed the organ in the background, impressive.

      • Tim 4.2.1
        20 August 2013 at 9:48 am

        so you are the organ grinder then. I had my suspicions

      • Dr Terry Creagh 4.2.2
        20 August 2013 at 10:53 am

        BM – it is good to know that you can see something when you trouble to open your eyes, but it seems that you miss seeing anything that is really important.

      • Rogue Trooper 4.2.3
        20 August 2013 at 11:03 am

        might put a frieze around the top of the lounge walls.

  5. Nicolas 5
    20 August 2013 at 10:04 am

    Shame about Dotcom’s presence. I understand he is a high-profile victim of our government’s actions, but I still struggle to cheer for the billionaire who specifically complied with Banks’ request for a $50,000 donation to be split in two. Corruption goes both ways: Banks was at one end, Dotcom was at the other.

    I understand politics involves pragmatism, but I find it disgraceful to see Dotcom in the line-up. This is no Manning or Snowden; this is just a billionaire with close ties to a less-than-credible local MP…

    • yeshe 5.1
      20 August 2013 at 10:19 am

      He is the loudest most accomplished voice for our freedoms, and there is more to come… I wonder, did he actually know Banks request was illegal ?

      Without him, we would know so much less about this bloody bill and all it carries with it.

      • Nicolas 5.1.1
        20 August 2013 at 10:25 am

        Dotcom knew Banks required the donations to be split so that they would be “anonymous”…

        What exactly motivates ANYONE to donate $50,000 to a guy like Banks? Doesn’t that smell bad to you?

        And what do you mean by “accomplished”? He’s a billionaire, that doesn’t instantly mean he’s accomplished anything meaningful for anyone, besides himself.

        He is an opportunist, not a “voice for our freedoms”. Norman is a voice for our freedoms. So is Dr. Harrison, Prof. Kelsey, Nicky Hager… Not Dotcom, mate.

        • QoT 5.1.1.1
          20 August 2013 at 10:09 pm

          What exactly motivates ANYONE to donate $50,000 to a guy like Banks? Doesn’t that smell bad to you?

          Leverage. Same reason any number of companies in the US donate to both Republican and Democratic candidates.

          And when they ask you to split the donation so it’s anonymous? Dotcom could probably hardly restrain himself from cackling. That’s leverage with a leverage cookie on top.

          I’m not saying it’s ethical or anything, but if you’re a pragmatic hypercapitalist …

      • Nicolas 5.1.2
        20 August 2013 at 10:30 am

        And let’s be honest: while I understand his mansion’s raid brought more attention to the Bill, the constant “without him, we wouldn’t know this much” comes dangerously close to implying he carried out some sort of investigation into this. This is no Greenwald, mate. Without him, we wouldn’t know this much, but it’s not like he purposely tried to “uncover” the GCSB.

        • karol 5.1.2.1
          20 August 2013 at 10:32 am

          Dotcom’s lawyers have done some investigations that KDC claims have thrown up stuff damaging to Key.

          • Nicolas 5.1.2.1.1
            20 August 2013 at 10:36 am

            Yes, but none of that has come out yet. When people refer to him “shedding some light” upon the GCSB, people mean his mansion’s raid, and how it exposed the dodgy practices by our spying agency. But Dotcom was simply unlucky there; it’s not like this is a guy who has always been a prominent defender of civil liberties, and whose efforts have motivated an important public debate.

            In fact, I might be being cynical here, but his public involvement in the GCSB opposition is likely to have been motivated by advice from his lawyers. This is a guy who stands to gain a lot from public support.

            Again, I truly struggle to see this billionaire as a martyr of any sort.

            • karol 5.1.2.1.1.1
              20 August 2013 at 10:43 am

              Who is painting KDC as a martyr?

            • vto 5.1.2.1.1.2
              20 August 2013 at 10:48 am

              he is not a billionaire, stooge.

            • yeshe 5.1.2.1.1.3
              20 August 2013 at 11:19 am

              yeshe 7
              20 August 2013 at 11:13 am
              Doubt remains that he understood it was illegal to make his donation in the way he was requested. In fact it wasn’t. How Banks did or did not delcare them was the illegality. And I agree, why does anyone make such donations to any one of the various nefarious sods that receive them .. Sky City and such like, and all the ones of which we know nothing.

              I agree with much you have said, but Dotcom was entitled to his seat and allocated time last night. He is the highest profile victim. And I referred to his ‘accomplished voice’ because, so far, everything Kim Dotcom has said, or claimed, or implied, has been proven to be true. This is his accomplishment in my eyes. And as he said so deliciously last night — his court case will the true public inquiry in to what has gone on. That is a major accomplishment indeed and under the tutelage of one of our best legal minds. And personally, I am very happy and appreciative that he is on our side through all of this.

              At no stage do I derogate, or compare him with, any of the marvelous names you mention.

              Actually, all of this reminds me of the groundswell that began to emerge against Muldoon. Let the tsunami of opposition begin.

              • freedom …
                20 August 2013 at 11:41 am

                and I am confident it has been explained to Dotcom that if he is shown to be lying at any time that the kiwi clobbering machine will turn on him faster than you can blink.
                Kiwis are oddly reliable that way

    • phillip ure 5.2
      20 August 2013 at 10:57 am

      it is not against the law to donate to politicians..

      ..it was banks who broke the law..

      (tho that apparent ideological-arc..(from banks to bomber?)..on the part of dotcom ..

      ..is still somewhat unexplained/unclear..)

      ..and didn’t banks promise to help him with his immigration-issues..?

      ..to dotcom..ends would likely justify means..in this case

      ..and banks happened to be those means to hand/just another politician with a for sale/hire sign hung around his neck…

      phillip ure..

      • karol 5.2.1
        20 August 2013 at 11:05 am

        I do think Dotcom was expecting some support from Banks after donating to his campaign – shows dodgy values on KDC’s part. But when KDC was in Mt Eden prison, he tried to get some help from Banks. Banks turned his back on the big man…. the rest is history.

        From the Dom Post in Sept 2012:

        ‘John Banks has been through enough and I think it’s enough, it should go to rest, the whole topic I think it also wasn’t easy for John Banks,” he said.

        He added: ”I think the Prime Minister has made his choice about the John Banks donations saga and it’s time to move on.

        ”It’s a very fragile majority, the balance of power is threatened by the John Banks affair so I think the Prime Minister has had to make a choice: am I going to uphold high ethical standards or do I want to remain in power?”

        Dotcom says he went public over the donations because Banks refused to help him when he was held in Mt Eden prison earlier this year. Dotcom was arrested on US anti-piracy charges and faces extradition. He suffered two slipped discs and his lawyer Greg Towers asked Banks to intervene.

        After Dotcom’s arrest Banks told the media he hardly knew Dotcom. And he told Towers it wouldn’t look good to publicly support the mogul.

    • Murray Olsen 5.3
      20 August 2013 at 5:57 pm

      Dotcom has lost more than anyone else we know about to the illegalities of the GCSB and the propensity of our PM’s tongue to clean American orifices. We have learned more because it happened to him than we have learned from any other single case. I’m glad he’s chosen to be on our side in this matter. The rest is pure diversion.

  6. karol 6
    20 August 2013 at 10:50 am

    One of the speakers at the meeting said that Aussie telcos had already succumbed to US agencies’ demands they have access to all communications into the US. And now we have a company planning a new undersea internet cable to NZ, via an Aussie telco.

    Hamish Fletcher gushing about it on the NZ Herald.

    A company hoping to build a US$350 million submarine internet cable out of New Zealand has lined up a listed Australian telco as a customer in a multi-million dollar deal.

    TPG Telecom, an ASX-listed IT and internet company, has issued a letter of intent saying it plans to acquire fibre capacity on the Australia-United States leg of Hawaiki’s proposed cable system.

    A statement issued by both parties last night, which called the agreement a “multi-million deal”, said TPG also intended to acquire capacity on the Sydney-New Zealand section of the international internet link.

    Auckland-based Hawaiki Cable is planning to build a 14-000km cable system between New Zealand, Australia, Hawaii and the US west coast and said last month that the project could be operating within two years.

    • yeshe 6.1
      20 August 2013 at 11:25 am

      What Seeby Woodhouse spoke about last night is frightening. If the Telecommunications bill (TICS) goes through as written, not only will the telcos be forced to allow the secret fitting of the GCSB/NSA intercepting equipment, but they will be forbidden by law to tell their customers .. as in Seeby said last night, that under the new law, he would not be permitted to stand on that stage and discuss it without breaking some law!!!

      I’ll find a link I read through the weekend about it … just horrific stuff.

      • yeshe 6.1.1
        20 August 2013 at 1:38 pm

        karol .. this is the link I mentioned re TICs bill .. from NBR …it’s a must read as it has been much ignored ( surprise) by herald and stuff .. very startling details about SECRET ALREADY APPROVED CABINET DIRECTIVES …

        http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/revealed-govt-plans-secret-orders-so-service-providers-under-spy-bill-ck-144562

        Interestngly, while looking for this link again, I stumbled into Pete George’s blog ( eek!) but he quotes Peter Dunne as saying he has not guaranteed his support for this bill beyond committee stages … dated Aug 8 .. but where does he stand now I wonder ?

        PG: “I put the question to Peter Dunne and he has responded:

        “The TICs bill is still before a select committee. I have not committed any support beyond its current stage so far, and will not make any decision about its future until it is a little further through the select committee process and I can assess the state it is likely to emerge in.”

        http://yournz.org/2013/08/06/dunne-on-the-tics-bill/

        Now I need to go and wash my hands for at least five minutes ….

  7. amirite 7
    20 August 2013 at 12:42 pm

    A chilling reminder to all those who are dismissing the GCSB bill:

    Guardian says Britain forced it to destroy Snowden material

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/20/us-usa-security-snowden-guardian-idUSBRE97I10E20130820

    • Anne 7.1
      20 August 2013 at 2:42 pm

      I have just watched (in the House) the most appalling display of petulance, bullying and dammed lies from the most appalling bully of a prime minister this country has ever seen. I have experienced public service bosses do this in the past – ie. bully and intimidate then have the gall to accuse the other party of said behaviour. The opposition parties must not allow this despot of a man to get away with it.

    • Colonial Viper 7.2
      20 August 2013 at 3:46 pm

      Holy fuck.

  8. Poem 8
    20 August 2013 at 3:53 pm

    It was cool to see David Shearer get off the stage to talk with members of the audience at the end of the meeting.

  9. Jellytussle 9
    20 August 2013 at 6:53 pm

    I enjoyed Shearer’s speech but I think he was well outshone by Russel Norman, who was quite brilliant truth be told.

  10. Poem 10
    20 August 2013 at 7:22 pm

    Collectively, I thought everyone was great in their own way. they all got the message across brilliantly and that’s what counts, it wasn’t a competition !!

    • phillip ure 10.1
      20 August 2013 at 9:53 pm

      it may not have been a competition..

      ..but the fact is that norman blew shearer away..

      ..norman and harawira were best-performing politicians on the night..

      ..(i kept looking at peters and thinking:..’but..!..but..!..weren’t you going to do a deal with key..?..before dunne hung his for sale sign around his neck..?’..)

      ..but of course you must also give credit to that audience..

      ..for an audience of polite/docile kiwis..they roared like lions..and in unison..

      ..it was quite the spectacle..

      ..and it left you wanting more political meetings/passion like that..

      ..maybe in defence of what harawira so adroitly pointed out..?

      ..in defence of those nz’ers already under state-surveillance/state-suppression/persecution/stigmatising/isolating/demonising..being made/manufactured into ‘the other’..and ‘unworthy’ for most nz’ers..

      ..the poor/sick/beneficiaries..

      ..phillip ure

    • Jellytussle 10.2
      22 August 2013 at 6:30 pm

      Hmmm………might not have been a competition but Shearer’s not the leader anymore!

  11. North 11
    20 August 2013 at 10:13 pm

    Just watched that facile little turd Jessica Mutch – TVNZ or One or whatever “deputy” political editor for Christ’s Sake. Where the fuck does she get off saying (in effect) that we have no GCSB legislation and the government “had to” rush it through ? Because we’ve got “nothing” ? There’s a legislative vacuum ???

    What’s the basis for that ? None at all. What an absolutely idiotic and senseless misdirection is that ? Would love the opportunity to ask the beige idiot personally. At least Old Flibbitigibbert McIvor nee Woodham screams of being a Womens’ Weekly dickhead. This one works the lofty claim to political knowledge and understanding. Fraudulent.

    I always thought that Mine Potty Gower took the cake for rubbish but this morning she trumped even that goon.

    Vainglorious bastards who think they’re “stars”. Part of the story oh right. Neither of them even alive in the Norman Kirk/Muldoon days. What the fuck do they know about anything ? Seriously.

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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How to Factory Reset iPhone without Computer: A Comprehensive Guide to Restoring your Device
    Life throws curveballs, and sometimes, those curveballs necessitate wiping your iPhone clean and starting anew. Whether you’re facing persistent software glitches, preparing to sell your device, or simply wanting a fresh start, knowing how to factory reset iPhone without a computer is a valuable skill. While using a computer with ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How to Call Someone on a Computer: A Guide to Voice and Video Communication in the Digital Age
    Gone are the days when communication was limited to landline phones and physical proximity. Today, computers have become powerful tools for connecting with people across the globe through voice and video calls. But with a plethora of applications and methods available, how to call someone on a computer might seem ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #16 2024
    Open access notables Glacial isostatic adjustment reduces past and future Arctic subsea permafrost, Creel et al., Nature Communications: Sea-level rise submerges terrestrial permafrost in the Arctic, turning it into subsea permafrost. Subsea permafrost underlies ~ 1.8 million km2 of Arctic continental shelf, with thicknesses in places exceeding 700 m. Sea-level variations over glacial-interglacial cycles control ...
    Skeptical Science
    1 day ago

  • Where on a Computer is the Operating System Generally Stored? Delving into the Digital Home of your ...
    The operating system (OS) is the heart and soul of a computer, orchestrating every action and interaction between hardware and software. But have you ever wondered where on a computer is the operating system generally stored? The answer lies in the intricate dance between hardware and software components, particularly within ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How Many Watts Does a Laptop Use? Understanding Power Consumption and Efficiency
    Laptops have become essential tools for work, entertainment, and communication, offering portability and functionality. However, with rising energy costs and growing environmental concerns, understanding a laptop’s power consumption is more important than ever. So, how many watts does a laptop use? The answer, unfortunately, isn’t straightforward. It depends on several ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How to Screen Record on a Dell Laptop A Guide to Capturing Your Screen with Ease
    Screen recording has become an essential tool for various purposes, such as creating tutorials, capturing gameplay footage, recording online meetings, or sharing information with others. Fortunately, Dell laptops offer several built-in and external options for screen recording, catering to different needs and preferences. This guide will explore various methods on ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How Much Does it Cost to Fix a Laptop Screen? Navigating Repair Options and Costs
    A cracked or damaged laptop screen can be a frustrating experience, impacting productivity and enjoyment. Fortunately, laptop screen repair is a common service offered by various repair shops and technicians. However, the cost of fixing a laptop screen can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article delves into the ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
    Experiencing a locked computer can be frustrating, especially when you need access to your files and applications urgently. The methods to unlock your computer will vary depending on the specific situation and the type of lock you encounter. This guide will explore various scenarios and provide step-by-step instructions on how ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
    While the world has largely transitioned to digital communication, faxing still holds relevance in certain industries and situations. Fortunately, gone are the days of bulky fax machines and dedicated phone lines. Today, you can easily send and receive faxes directly from your computer, offering a convenient and efficient way to ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
    The absolute brass neck of this guy.We want more medical doctors, not more spin doctors, Luxon was saying a couple of weeks ago, and now we’re told the guy has seven salaried adults on TikTok duty. Sorry, doing social media. The absolute brass neck of it. The irony that the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
    Having written, taught and worked for the US government on issues involving unconventional warfare and terrorism for 30-odd years, two things irritate me the most when the subject is discussed in public. The first is the Johnny-come-lately academics-turned-media commentators who … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 days ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
    Mariupol, on the Azov Sea coast, was one of the first cities to suffer almost complete destruction after the start of the Ukraine War started in late February 2022. We remember the scenes of absolute destruction of the houses and city structures. The deaths of innocent civilians – many of ...
    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    2 days ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
    Climate change is expected to generate more and more extreme events, delivering a sort of structural shock to inflation that central banks will have to react to as if they were short-term cyclical issues. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMy pick of the six newsey things to know from Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    2 days ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    2 days ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
    This is a re-post from Andrew Dessler at the Climate Brink blog In 2023, the Earth reached temperature levels unprecedented in modern times. Given that, it’s reasonable to ask: What’s going on? There’s been lots of discussions by scientists about whether this is just the normal progression of global warming or if something ...
    Skeptical Science
    2 days ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
    Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
    Buzz from the Beehive Point  of Order first heard of the Oceans Secretariat in June 2021, when David Parker (remember him?) announced a multi-agency approach to protecting New Zealand’s marine ecosystems and fisheries. Parker (holding the Environment, and Oceans and Fisheries portfolios) broke the news at the annual Forest & ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    4 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    4 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    4 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    5 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago

  • $41m to support clean energy in South East Asia
    New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago

  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago

  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago

  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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