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They eat their own

Written By: - Date published: 2:18 pm, March 28th, 2012 - 96 comments
Categories: ACC, national - Tags: , , , ,

ACC denies leaking Bronwyn Pullar’s name. It’s not credible that they would act so high risk and so politically. Boag and Pullar clearly didn’t leak it. So, that leaves Collins and her office. Collins denied leaking the email to the media … but leaves a fair bit of wiggle room, doesn’t it? The tipline is, as they say, running hot – and the name on everyone’s lips is Lusk.

To understand why Collins would give Pullar’s name to Simon Lusk for passing on to the Herald, you need to understand some internal National Party dynamics.

The next National leader will be chosen this term or immediately after the next election. So the jockeying is starting now.

There are several groups of National MPs and money-men that will play a part in the post-Key leadership contest. Among them are Joyce and his allies, Boag and her people (she got Key into Parliament and many junior Nats owe their jobs to her for that), there’s the still powerful brat pack, and Collins’ team.

Collins has built up a little cadre of junior Nat MPs thanks to the efforts of Simon Lusk who runs campaigns (several new National MPs thanked him in their maiden speeches) and, with the help of Cameron Slater, also fixes nomination races by running smear campaigns against rivals of Collins’ proteges. Slater, or more likely it was Lusk ghost-writing, laid this strategy out in the open last year – $10,000 will buy you Lusk/Slater spin on your National Party nomination race. And you saw their handy work in Botany and Rodney, amongst other races. Lusk/Slater/Collins’ tactics are disliked by many in the party, particularly Boag’s faction. So, an opportunity to hurt Boag was always going to appeal to Collins.

The word is that Boag sent the now famous email to Collins with the understanding that it would be kept confidential and not passed to ACC. Sources say that, seeing her chance, Collins not only gave the email to ACC but to Lusk. Slater, or Lusk ghostwriting, almost immediately jumped into the then nascent ACC leak calling for prosecutions although Pullar’s name was not yet in the public arena. Lusk gave the Boag email to Fisher at the Herald, and that’s how Pullar’s name and Boag’s role as her support person became public (you’ll remember in that first article Boag seemed particularly incensed that the email had gotten out – now you know why). Fran O’Sullivan, who also strongly backed Lusk’s Brash coup of ACT, jumped on board with an unusually personal attack on Boag – count her in Collins’ camp too.

Now, we’re told that Collins didn’t mean for the leak to end in Nick Smith’s resignation. Her target was Boag. Smith’s resignation was just gravy. No sooner had he fallen on his sword than Slater/Lusk was promoting Collins’ acolytes Upston and Lotu-Iiga as replacements.

Unfortunately for Collins, Slater has a tendency to turn everything he touches to shit, and his contributions to this affair are one reason why our tip-line has been overflowing with details of how Collins attempted to screw over Boag with the email about Pullar and accidentally took out Smith as well.

The knives are sharpening for Collins over this. She’s a known backstabber but, in taking out the well-liked and experienced Smith as collateral damage in her jockeying for the leadership post-Key she has gone too far. The brat pack is out to get her along the Joyce and Boag factions. Even Nats who don’t know, until now, exactly how Collins leaked and to whom will tell you the obvious – the leak can only have come from her office.

The question now is whether Key acts, or looks weak.

96 comments on “They eat their own”

  1. burt 1

    Now the PM steps in and says; I’m the PM and by definition I can’t leak. – Debate.

    • Blighty 1.1

      so, you’re arguing that Collins can’t have leaked Pullar’s information by definition but you’re conceding she gave her name to Lusk?

      • burt 1.1.1

        I’m doing noting of the sort, that’s absolutely putting words in my mouth. Lets hope lprent’s not angry today he hates that sort of shit.

        I’m proposing what if the PM says the business of government is whatever government say it is and that he might have been to relaxed in a conversation with media…. but being the PM he can’t leak…

        How the hell did you get to where you got to ?

        [lprent: Diversion on a diversion. Should I just bump the whole thread to OpenMike as being off topic? Nah... Blighty brought it back on topic. You deal with it. :twisted:

        I have to say that Blighty offers a pretty good explanation (1.1.1.1) about how he got from the post through your unacknowledged quote to his comment. His extrapolation makes about as much sense as your comment did in the context of the post.

        And he did ask if that was what you meant? ]

        • Blighty 1.1.1.1

          I’m just trying to take what you’re saying and, you know, apply it to the subject in front of us, which is a leak from Collins’ office.

          You’re quoting Clark who said she couldn’t leak – I’m not sure precisely what she was talking about because the only google hits are Nats talking about it.

          So, naturally, you seem to be wanting to extend the logic of what Clark said to be that no minister can ever leak.

          So you’re saying ‘yes, Collins gave the info to Lusk but that’s not a leak because Clark said ministers can’t leak, nah, nah, nah’

          That’s the only way I can interpret what you’ve said in relation to the topic of the post.

          • Anita 1.1.1.1.1

            Blighty,

            This is a good explanation of that quote by Clark.

            The only problem is that I can’t relate it to the topic at hand :-/

        • Inventory2 1.1.1.2

          No Burt; lprent only hates it when RWNJ’s put words in people’s mouths…

          [lprent: I look at it whenever I see someone complain or if people do it to an author (the latter is part of the general defence of the site).

          Of course it doesn't pay to cry wolf too often because that would be wasting my time. If it is unjustified and happens too often then I get irritated. Becomes a matter of luck about how irritated I am at the time. ]

          • insider 1.1.1.2.1

            or make accusations without any evidence to back it up. But a post stacked with unreferenced innuendo? GO FOR IT!

            • Dean 1.1.1.2.1.1

              it’s not our blog though, is it? We’re guests here. When your mate invites you over, do you demand to be able to sleep with your mate’s wife in his bed?

              • Lanthanide

                That’s not really the right analogy, Dean.

                It’s more like, your mate invites you over to their house because they’re having a party. Once you turn up, they’re polite to everyone who is wearing red clothes, and impolite and rude to everyone who is wearing blue clothes. But the invitation never stated anything about the dress code.

                • lprent

                  We make no promises about being fair in the sense that most of the blue tinged would view how the rules should operate. This is a very labour movement site. Read the about again.

                  The correct analogy would be that we run a meeting where the rules of behaviour are roughly set in advance and where most of the participants it was intended for are unionists and/or from the left. They have all worked under those limits in the past, tend to work effectively within them, and will cooperate within them while still having a lively argument.

                  Then some people ignorant of the ways of the left and most cooperative techniques amble in with a bit of a grudge and try to run the meeting their way because they can’t see why anyone else should limit what they want to do. But they all have a different way and are just loud and mostly dumb.

                  Needless to say trying to set their own rules doesn’t work too well with the organisers and the chairman starts getting the worst of the idiots ejected until the majority of the people it was intended for can have a say rather than having egotists shouting them down.

                  In other words it isn’t a public party with anyone invited. We don’t mind anyone being here provided they don’t get in the way of the people we set it up for originally. But it means you live with our standards of behaviour because we don’t intend to live with a standard of behaviour of the loudest and most ignorant.

                  Which is why the right sites tend to be different from the left sites. Gotcha of course is probably the most extreme example of that lack of ability to cooperate, and offhand I know of only only one vaguely multi-author right site around (and it has a leavening of lefties there to make it work). Many of the left sites are cooperatives.

                  • People also amble in to have a bit of a look and a bit of a debate and get dumped on be a cooperative of commenters who’s aim often seems to be just to harrass people they choose to dislike off the blog. That behaviour appears to be supported at times by the moderators.

                    Yep, it’s your blog, do as you please. Obviously the aim is not to attract as many new commenters as possible with diverse views. It can only be guessed what the various aims are but some seem quite obvious.

                    • vto

                      Bloody hell you whinge a lot Pete George. When I first came here I pissed off loads of people. They ranted and abused me back and especially honed in becuase they thought I was a white middle class male, who come in for the most abuse – but after a bit of time and an adjustment of behaviour to suit this particular all-night party the ambience isn’t too bad and debates can be had. But you had better have decent arguments to support your position (I can give you some guidance there if you like)

                      But Pete, recently all you do is complain about being abused. You aint abused mate, you are just mildly harassed and in fact I suspect that harassment comes from your arguments and points generally being pretty weak rather than any desire for pure abuse. Sure, your points are your opinion and everyone is entitled to one but I’ll let you in on a secret – not all opinions are equal. Some people’s opinions are pretty crap, being based on knees and jerks and dinner table research and no long term thought.

                      So stop whingeing and put your arguments forward.

                    • felix

                      And some people amble in with the apparent aim of disrupting discussion from behind a veneer of politeness.

                      Easy to spot, they ask a lot of questions but never, ever answer any.

                      And when they’re exposed they say “Goodness, is that the time? Really must be off” and disappear to start a new line of questioning on another thread.

                    • vto – I’ve got no argument with you having a big whinge about whinging.

                      There’s a lot of whinging here don’t you think? Many of the posts are whinges about Key and/or National. And for some variety a whinge about Collins or Brownlee. Or whover the resign of the day is.

                      But now you’ve got that whinge off your chest maybe you could put a good positive argument forward, and show everyone how to break the whinge cycle. Just remember to have those decent arguments ready.

                    • felix – you’re presenting yourself as a good example of what you’re talking about?

                    • felix

                      Oh good, you’re back.

                      The questions from this morning are still waiting, as are the ones from yesterday.

                      Do let me know when you get around to addressing them. I can link to them (again) if you like.

                    • vto

                      ha ha, good one. I was really getting at your victim mentality.

                      And here is a positive thing – a positive move for the entire nation of four million people would be if its governing lot listened to its people and did what they want around asset sales. That would be an entirely positive thing – if a government, any recent government will do, actually listened to its people. As for the arguments in support – see al recent threads and posts on the subject. I am still waiting for somebody to explain the benefits of selling. out.

                    • felix, said “Easy to spot, they ask a lot of questions”.

                      Just before launching into his question thing. Very funny.

                    • felix

                      Yes that’s very funny Pete.

                      So have you responded yet? Particularly I refer to the ones where you got caught out making incredibly stupid statements about Sue Bradford and then ran away.

                      Much like you did the day before with your incredibly stupid statements about hypocrisy.

                      Or is that all in the past now, no longer relevant in your liquid, plastic, labile world?

                    • Bradford claimed “which will force sole parents with babies as young as one year out to work.” I think that’s dishonest or ignorant misrepresentation of the aims of the act. And commenters claiming that “we all know” what National are really going to do is pathetic.

                      You don’t like being called on your hypiocrisy, do you. Get over it.

                      You said (below):

                      Of course you don’t like it, they’re on your team. Your nasty, dirty, toxic team.

                      They are not my team. I comment here independently. You are displaying your toxicity, not mine. Whay should I bother checking back where you may have left questions? I think your comments and questions, and manner of addressing, them will be judged by those who read them. Some may think you are a local hit squad. I’d bet others will see you as incessantly hissy too.

                • higherstandard

                  That’s very good Lath, very good indeed.

                  I’d pretty much given up on this blog lately and after the bitch fest about Cameron Slater et al yesterday – but the occasional gem from the likes of yourself makes it worthwhile visiting now and again.

                  • RedLogix

                    As a moderator what I really want is an environment where interesting conversations and debates can take place. If you’re bringing something of value to the table you can get away with quite robust debate…and your track record counts. But you have to understand that inherently I judge these things from a left-wing perspective and that isn’t ever going to change.

                    Reading and understanding the Policy will keep things on track most of the time, but then again there are a bunch of tired old tricks we’ve seen over and again that people use to derail a debate when they’ve run out of ideas…. and eventually one of the mods will act to discourage them.

                • felix

                  Oh fuck, Lanth! He’d nearly given up!

  2. Carol 2

    Mallard asked Collins, in suplementary questions today, if she gave the email to Lusk or discussed the contents with Lusk (can’t remember the exact questions, but Lusk was named). Collins said “no” to both questions.

  3. insider 3

    “the word” no doubt came from Trevor Mallard… It was of course sheer coincidence Trevor brought up Lusk’s name in QT today a short time after you posted.

    • lprent 3.1

      Could also be that is what the rumour mill in Wellington has been rife with for days. Hell I’ve heard it in Auckland and I’m not connected with the beltway at all.

  4. Just because Trevor Mallard alleges it, it doesn’t make it so. Mr Mallard seems to have a rather unnatural fixation on Mr Lusk.

    Anyway; shouldn’t you have waited until AFTER Trevor’s speech in the General Debate, which he has yet to make? Otherwise it just looks like in insider hatchet job.

    PS: Lalit Modi :-)

    • Carol 4.1

      Well, right now, in the general debate, Robertson has been talking about Lusk’s role.

  5. Ross 5

    Judith Collins apparently printed out a copy of the email. So now we know what happened. Collins printed the email and by some rmearkable coincidence, the Herald reporter broke into Collins’ office in the hope of finding something juicy and happened upon the printed email!

    http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8442683/acc-minister-printed-leaked-email

    • ianmac 5.1

      She said repeatedly that she did not pass on the email to the Media.
      But was she asked did she pass on a printed copy?
      No. So her denial was about emails not paper copies. Tricky eh?

  6. Pascal's bookie 6

    loling at the iTwins. Wellie is a small town, if Trevor’s heard stuff, lot’s of people have heard it.

    Anyways http://bit.ly/HiPIQC

    Privacy commissioner wants to do forensics on the computers. What fun.

    • insider 6.1

      It is small and it wouldn’t be a surprise if it was talking to itself

    • Ross 6.2

      I’m not sure forensics on the computers is going to achieve much. Collins isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer but I don’t think she’d be that stupid. Besides, she printed off details of the email and God knows who had access to those details.

      • Pascal's bookie 6.2.1

        More will be learnt from looking than from not though.

        The commissioner could find out whether or not someone did something really stupid. Or it could be found that no-one Collins sent it to in ACC printed it out, or forwarded it, or copied it.

  7. Last night’s debate was fascinating because of the appearance of the dynamic duo Slater and Cactus.  One gets the feeling that Slater is on the receiving end of some fairly severe responses from friends of the brat pack.

    National is starting to implode.  This is great fun to watch. 

    • deuto 7.1

      +1 on both points. Re last night’s debate, it was intriguing to see the slithering and sliding, and the answers to your questions particularly once Lusk’s name arose. The dots are starting to join up.

      Wonder whether Key will come back instead of enjoying his holiday in Paris?

      • taxicab 7.1.1

        Shonkey Gonkey is now going to grace us with his presence next week . The question is whether the chicken shit will dare to be present during question time . Clearly the vultures are circling . No doubt the now slightly postponed holiday with the family in Europe will be to discuss the exit strategy to Hawaii .

        • deuto 7.1.1.1

          I had been wondering whether the exit strategy was on the agenda well before the events of the last week and today! Ever hopeful but the alternatives are not looking great!

      • Jim Nald 7.1.2

        Key must have been a great supporter of Monday-ising some of our holidays seeing how enthusiastically he is holiday-ising the odd few minutes he should be putting into turning up in the House for parliamentary question time?

    • I don’t think it’s “great fun to watch”.

      Parliament is supposd to be the cream of democracy running the country. I think it’s very sad to see how so many keep trying to push as many others onto the track as possible in the hope they will cause a train wreck. Too bad about the good of the country/

      It’s a real shame when the dirty deeds of politics take precedence (and sadly pride of place for some) over decent governance.

      • felix 7.2.1

        Of course you don’t like it, they’re on your team. Your nasty, dirty, toxic team.

        The more of you that push each other onto the tracks, the better.

        • Pete George 7.2.1.1

          I don’t like it when whoever does it to whom. I didn’t like the overhyped furores when they happened to Labour either. I’ve had more arguments about speeeding and painting than I’ve had arguments with you.

          “Your nasty, dirty, toxic team.” That”s a nasty dirty comment. Part of the whole toxic mess our politics sometimes descends to. It’s disgraceful really.

          And it’s this sort of disgraceful behaviour that turns many people of participating in politics. So we keep ending up with our highest offices overwhelmed by political thuggery.

          It’s like a baying crowd watching someone getting kicked to death in an alleyway. Our ‘civilised’ society is often far from civilised.

          • Rich 7.2.1.1.1

            Politics would be better if a few MPs had ideals rather than just being willing to join any government that lets them have an associate minister warrant (with associated limo and free air travel).

            Like the MP for deluded outer Wellington suburbia, for instance.

          • felix 7.2.1.1.2

            Ah that’s right, the “Calling me nasty is very nasty of you” gambit.

            You never did get around to answering those questions the other day, did you? (‘Goodness is that the time? I really must be off!’)

            Fancy a crack at them now? http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-27032012/comment-page-1/#comment-451585

            Take your time.

          • alex 7.2.1.1.3

            I think you should try and see the opportunity in this PG. National is imploding, which means people who vote for good hair will move away from Key and instead go for someone with the best hair of all…

          • Colonial Viper 7.2.1.1.4

            It’s like a baying crowd watching someone getting kicked to death in an alleyway. Our ‘civilised’ society is often far from civilised.

            LOL

            PG is all for civilised government, civilised politics and civil politicians!!!

            PG can you point to a time that actually happened? Nixon’s day? Napolean’s day? Caesar’s day?

          • RedLogix 7.2.1.1.5

            I actually agree with your basic sentiment PG. This kind of politics doesn’t appeal anymore to me than it does you.

            Yet if National was running a principled and ethical government they would either not have gotten into this mess in the first place, OR in the event someone had fallen short of the standard… they would come clean and step down until an investigation and natural justice had taken its course.

            Failing that the Opposition has little recourse than to put the heat on… and sadly that gets ugly.

            • Pete George 7.2.1.1.5.1

              And I agree with what you’re saying here too. The two large parties are the biggest culprits both in government and in opposition. The standard of parliament (and MP behaviour) is pitiful at times, and that’s what really annoys a lot of people outside political circles.

              But just despairing and letting the cycle continue isn’t going to change anything. Politicians themselves are going to do little to change bad habits and bad practices. Some would like to – I’ve had a reasonable amount of respect for the intentions of Clark, Key and now Shearer, but as Shearer is finding out now, criticisng “Gotcha” is virtually ignored even by his own.

              The only way of pressuring them for change is from outside politics, by threatening them with vote losses. The challenge there is nudging enough people out of apathy to make a difference. Many of the wider public deal with politicians like they deal with the weather, they moan plenty about them but don’t do anything to stop being dumped on.

              But it’s worth exploring ways to change. I know I’ll change few minds here, that’s not the main purpose of being here, it’s to learn what we’re dealing with.

      • muzza 7.2.2

        “I don’t think it’s “great fun to watch”. – Of course it’s not for you Pete, you are part of the sytem, albeit only a fluffer. The system is broken, and this is what we all pay for curently. As long as those in the system do not server their country, this is the inevitable result!

        “Parliament is supposd to be the cream of democracy running the country. I think it’s very sad to see how so many keep trying to push as many others onto the track as possible in the hope they will cause a train wreck. Too bad about the good of the country” – You really are deluded, was that a lame attempt to fluff your boss? Look at the state of those who crave the control of others, they are pushed into the postions they are in, and do not deserve to be there. Until NZ’ers redress this, then it can only decline further, and that is a very ugly thought!

        “It’s a real shame when the dirty deeds of politics take precedence (and sadly pride of place for some) over decent governance.” – Is it time for an afternoon nap Pete, as that comment was of a tired old man, who has just realised his career in political fluffing has amounted to nothing more than a reality check!

        • Pete George 7.2.2.1

          I’m not part of the system, and I’m not in it to fluff. It was never going to be a quick and easy thing to achieve any change in.

          I often get flak because I’m prepared to challenge status quo thinking in various forums. I’m from outside the system. People who feel they have long earned their status on ther inside tend to resent new voices.

          That’s one reason Shearer was not readily accepted as Labour leader. If he’s strong enough to not get dragged down into business as usual he could yet make a real difference.

          We don’t need a new system, we just need to change attitudes about how to best use the system, from within and from the outside.

          If half the time and effort that went into negative politics was turned to positive, we would have major change for the better (of the country and it’s people) – and still leave plenty of space for robust contests.

      • Pascal's bookie 7.2.3

        Parliament is supposd to be the cream of democracy running the country.

        sez who?

        • Pete George 7.2.3.1

          If we want a decent democracy and a decent country.

          • Pascal's bookie 7.2.3.1.1

            So when and where has such a decent democracy and country existed?

            Who gets to decide who the cream is?

            Sounds more like romantic idealised notions of aristocracy than democracy to me.

          • Dean 7.2.3.1.2

            In a decent country, Peter Dunne wouldn’t supply the crucial vote to give the government a one-seat majority to sell state assets against the wishes of the vast majority of New Zealanders.

            In a decent country.

          • newsense 7.2.3.1.3

            should be out campaigning harder and leaving the wasting our lives on blogs to the fools then Pete

          • Jackal 7.2.3.1.4

            It’s about accountability.

            Pointing out the disgusting manoeuvres undertaken by Nact MP’s and their lackeys is required to ensure accountability, and highlighting cases where the rules are breached must occur to ensure a viable political system. Any damage to the political system is entirely the fault of those abusing our democracy for their own ends.

            If you truly believe in a decent democracy Pete George, you would not support the current government who have proven themselves unworthy of their positions. It’s obvious that they don’t have the best interest of our country and it’s people as a priority. They are in fact self serving narcissistic back stabbing capitalist running dogs… creaming our so-called democracy for their own benefit.

            National have no comprehension of what morals, honour and accountability stand for… it’s a vague notion that does not register in their befuddled and bigoted minds. To quote Nick Smith, they should do us all a favour by throwing themselves under a train.

            Muzza is absolutely correct when he/she says New Zealander’s must address the problem… and presently the National led government is the problem.

  8. Jim Nald 8

    “The question now is whether Key acts, or looks weak.”

    How about ….. John attempts a sideshow with new buffoonery.

    Quickly covering his shrug and scowl with a quick smile, he announces he has assembled a new karaoke cabinet for Question Time and a new anthem for his government …..

    Split Nats

    singing*

    Six months in a leaKey boat

    *dissonant or off-Key, of course

    :-)

  9. Great stuff Micky S. Marvelous to see Tories wriggling like the worms they are. Do you think they are going to last three years . Mind you the money bags in Aotearoa will be demanding that this closes down , but it could be too late now.Lets watch with pleasure .

  10. Great stuff Micky S. Marvelous to see Tories wriggling like the worms they are. Do you think they are going to last three years . Mind you the money bags in Aotearoa will be demanding that this closes down , but it could be too late now.Lets watch with pleasure .

  11. aerobubble 11

    MSD, with the help of benefitaries, can provide the taxpayer savings by given over their personal information and accepting money to amelirate the poverty goals of tax payers. This saves billions in blight, ghettos, diseases, social and physical. And as we are seeing the leaks of benefitaries and ACC clients information, that government cannot be trusted with the information, either in using to end poverty or in stopping others who should not be privy to information gathered by MSD. Think for a moment that citizens have the right to withdraw from welfare and the effect if many were to, are we not already seeing false and misleading who have failed to track and understand the numbers now migranting overseas. Given that in order for the economy to grow a price on personal information is essential, and National are protecting the open theft of information leaking to clouds that they undervalue.
    Sicken would the word used by a free democracy, when given tax payers demand that poverty, social ills are removed, only then to find that lowlifes National ministers grandstand over the money as if those accepting it were giving nothing in return. Accepting money for the service of allowing government to collect information, and spending it properly as is the wish of taxpayers to allievate their poverty, is no different than witnesses in court, or juries, told they should ignore the benefit they get from the small pittence they receive, as they are bludgers?
    The good civic order of our society is paid for by even the unpaid citizen on a benefit who routinely live lawful lives and help the state keep disease, keep crime down, keep communities civil, and this is even before the unpaided work they do just by passing on true information to government and accepting a pittiful benefit 40%? of the weekly wage. It may well help MSD remembering that they need citizens to show up at their offices, or they would not have a jobs and would have to work far hard and bridging trust with poor communities (as can be seen in third world countries who riot, who make no go areas, where fecaes fester on the side of the road is not a one off happy camper event but common practice).

    bennett say she values benefitaries, they can work, but does she really value their contribution, how can she when she gets it so wrong.

    • Hami Shearlie 11.1

      Peseta Sam Lotu Iiga(known in our house as Sam Ligature LOL) used the word “burden” today in Parliament in reference to beneficiaries. Really? What should we call the recipients of taxpayers money for the South Canterbury Finance payout? What should we call visitors who use our hospitals and don’t pay? Why are beneficiaries labelled as a burden? What about retired MP’s who move into jobs provided by their parliamentary cronies and on top get superannuation generously contributed to by the taxpayer with taxpayer funded flights for their vacation every year? Doug Graham, remember how he crowed about taking it all from the taxpayer? Who is really the burden here? Every person with a child at school or uni, every person who has entered a hospital or doctors clinic, all are beneficiaries of taxpayer dollars being spent on them! People on super cost much more than beneficiaries so why are they exempt from being called a “burden” on society? What about all the voluntary work done by beneficiaries? And why are women told they shouldn’t “breed” while on the DPB (Maggie Barry today in Parliament). Doesn’t a man usually have to be involved in some way too? The fathers are often invisible and so escape the wrath! At least the mothers are actually looking after their children.

      • North 11.1.1

        Hami Shearlie…….is that truly what Maggie Marigold said today……..bennies shouldn’t be breeding ?

        What a dirty minded thing she is………this fascination with the damp, cheap duveted, polyester sheeted bedrooms of South Auckland (not being Clevedon) ?

        No more puke-making I guess than her response to the question….”Maggie……why are you standing for Parliament ?”

        “Well (patronising smile to the little TV hack), I believe I have something to offer…….”.

        Right………a nothing-arse self promoter planted in whatever Auckland based minister’s BMW on the way to Wellington Airport round 4.30 most Fridays. “Hah Hah Hah Hah Hah…….”

        God Save Us From Jolly Gal Wannabees Turned Vicious For The Dear Leader !

  12. bad12 12

    Smith went spilling crocodile tears in resignation over His wee indiscretions as Minister, We dare say that should Slippery Key force Crusher Collins to walk it, the plank that is, Collins will go spilling the blood of the present Government as She does,

    Slippery resides in damned if He does and damned if He dont land with what to do about Her so He wont, its as sure as hell though that the Slippery one aint exactly got a lot of confidence in His Minister if He has to ask Her twice if She has taken to peeing outside of the tent,

    The damage done though either from action or inaction should have Slippery digging in the closet for His best New York bankers suit to send off for a good dry cleaning…

  13. Carol 13

    Whoa! Go, Andrew (Little)!

    The video from today’s general debate to look for when it comes online! A tour de force on the shabby little government we now have got and all the stench coming from the ACC issue… and all the questions it raises.

    • Puddleglum 13.2

      Yes, that was very impressive.

      Andrew Little had a clarity of purpose and grasp of the ethical dimensions. No qualifications or ambivalence in the rhetoric – reminded me of Rodney Hide’s speech on the surveillance bill (was it?).

      The real scandal, as he identified, was that these internecine machinations of National Party personnel and ‘apparatchiks’ will inevitably be interfering with the work of ACC – certainly at upper management levels. 

      • Hami Shearlie 13.2.1

        Hekia would no doubt think that an “apparatchik” is a young woman terribly interested in fashion! And people actually suggested she could be the Nats next leader if Collins implodes? I lolled long and loud when I read that!

        • Colonial Viper 13.2.1.1

          Hekia is plenty smart; it won’t do to underestimate her or her supporters.

          • Hami Shearlie 13.2.1.1.1

            Agreed CV, smart and really shallow – a female Key perhaps! No substance there, but able to blind everyone with the overwhitened teeth perhaps?

  14. Rich 14

    The amount of infighting in National, you’d think they got some coaching from Labour. Maybe at one of their little inter-party discussion groups…

  15. The 53.000 that have left nz for a ‘brighter future’ obviously not contained in bennetts figures,
    is bennett saying none of those were on some sort of benefit,she claims that approx 6000 or
    so have gone off the unemployment benefit and into work,when she excitedly says in parliament that she is working hard to get them into work,no ms bennett,they have gone to aussie for a ‘brighter future’because national are taking ‘a brighter future’ for themselves.
    The rat traps are poised and waiting for the acc debacle to head in their direction,the rats
    will scatter in all directions but the odds are there will be some that will be caught.
    If there was a large container for the paper work associated with the rorts,the lies,the
    corruption,the back room deals,the sweet heart deals,then that container would surely
    sink in no time at all.
    The privacy review,which i predicted would happen,will curtail and suppress freedom
    of speech in nz,that will be a guarantee,in the light of the tea pot tapes.
    The only hope for democracy in nz is if all the rats are trapped in the rat trap.

  16. ianmac 16

    Hasn’t a recent Act meant that journalists can be forced to disclose their sources? Ironic or what!

  17. Treetop 17

    Collins would not of been aware of Smith breaching the cabinet manual as I doubt Boag raised Smith in the email to Collins. When Smith being connected to Pullar was discovered by Key, Key seemed to dismiss Smith breaching cabinet rules as he did not even stand him down.

    Whoever leaked the email did not realise that Smith would be collateral damage. ACC would have known that Smith breached the cabinet manual, so I do not think that ACC was the source of breaching Pullars privacy regarding Boags email.

  18. Reagan Cline 18

    Aerobubble, have I understood you correctly ? Beneficiaries contribute by helping “maintain good civic order of our society”, by enabling others to work in paid jobs in the MSD and by forming a group of people in poverty that can make available to Government information useful in formulating policies that aim to alleviate that poverty ?
    Do you think beneficiaries in New Zealand would be better off without benefits (forget for the moment the MSD employees and Government information gatherers) ?
    If beneficiaries thought they would be better off without a benefit, they would surely, as you suggest, not accept the benefit. But what alternative do they have at the moment ?
    It boils down to your getting a paying job to cover your expenses or you go on a benefit.
    The New Zealand Labour Party needs to put forward a programme that will provide adequately payed jobs for all, tell people about it and ask to be voted in at the next election.

    • aerobubble 18.1

      Basically its historical, poverty was understood to be a blight, ghettos, disease vectors that began in incubated weaken poor immune systems would lay waste to the gentified. Governments in order to save money from the collateral damage (that we can still see in third world countries) realized that businesses would actually do better if there were more customers, bureaucrats would get jobs, as Adam Smith pointed out the poor still made choices, with more more making choices (because they have a benefit) they would contribute to the growth of a free market and diminish the effects of the class system. As we move into the information age, and the needs of capialists to exchange value, the value of information becomes more pronounced, and needs to be protected, like any property right needs to be before a free market can be produced. Now its note worthy that benefitaries have worked, and the welfare system rewards them with lowered risk when they are laid off, they don’t lose their homes, they can use the time to retrain, and as we enter the information economy we need to have much more flexibility between up time and down time, so employees even in work can access benefits to help them retrain, My point is that the myopic view of welfare, that benefitaries contribute nothing, despite them having had jobs and paid for others to be on welfare, despite having saved and pay taxes while getting a benefit thus cross subsiding those who spent all their savings, a tsunami of denial of facts about citizens who happen to find their circumstances at odds with the sanctimonious sainted louses of the right wing looking to tax employees by removing a safety net and increase the pressure to lower wages. As we are all told we should be raise medium wages.

      So to sum up, its a fraud on us when the lousy government declare benefitaries are no good, in fact they provide a wealth of information to government that government could be using to prevent many of the social malaise caused by poverty. But its easier to kick the weak than to kick the managers of society into actively creating jobs, into actively sacking unnecessarily employment of middle class social parasitical managers. As we all know people who can make a living peeling off the souls and spirits of benefitaries love the National party, and why would they, attacks on the weakest in society by some formally who were weak. Look everyone and anyone can become ministers of the crown and millionarie PM, yes, we all can. No, fact is we don’t live in a Randian utopia, when the super human minister can be replayed easily, there is no essential super human ability to fawn over.

      We need an honest debate, we need Ministers with morals and ethics who realize that beatup on on the weakest in society actually is a personal risk, they start to justified leaking information about the poor worthless scum all bludgers to a man and solo mum. Well we know how that turns out, the thugs are investugated by the privacy commissioner and have to say sorry, even fall on their swords and lose their job. So actually, if politicians stop taking the low road, they might actually not look like such shallow arses.

      We need to give citizens the wealth from their own information, and shifting for example the information into the giant database of Google is the opposite of good governance. How are we to trade information when we give it away. Like that gold mine who pay no royaleties.

      As for the notion that jobs just appear without the consent of a lawful civic populace, that’s just absurd, we cannot produce a free market without socialists pushing for a level playing field, history shows this, when we didn’t have socialists we have class stratification and royals. Only when the monopolies of the church, and landed gentry were removed did we get efficiency gains. So it follows that we have to be vigilent less we reintroduce a invisible aristocracy, as we fail to tax the rich, who use their wealth to push politicians to kick the poorest and pander to the lowest commonness.

      yes we need jobs and its as easy as lowering working hours, and taxing the vast wealth of NZ properly. We have such a high currency because we’ve sold our productive core to foriegn absent landlords and are being turned into a serf class in our own land, by our own governemtn.

  19. Tamati 19

    Phew, what a nightmare!

    As a mere part-time political geek the ACC-Smith-Pullar-Boag-Collins-Lusk-Joyce scandal is getting a little too hot to handle!

    Too many names, too many accusations, too many denials!

    Would someone on the know, perhaps on Standard editorial like to to produce a flow diagram of sorts? Just like a simple mind map showing who is in bed with who, and who is accusing who of what. Too many names for a single article, if it was done graphically it might be easier for the average person to understand.

    We also need to come up with an appropriate portmanteau to refer to this case. Something snappy that the media can pick up, and obviously ending in gate.

    Any suggestions?

    Boagate? Natagate?

  20. bad12 20

    It would appear that the Herald on Sunday gained its information on Fullar from a well known political commentator with connections on high with various factions from within the Party,

    We know who garnered the 30 pieces of silver from the destruction of the former Minister,s career, and, just what the hell that particular individual was masquerading as a fully functioning Minister of the Crown future anthropologists will likely have much to ponder over, us mere mortals however can but breathe a sigh of relief and have a quiet laugh at the demise (for the moment at least) of something that we seen as a reasonably ugly blight upon our political landscape,

    We tho digress,Collins in the House today gave emphatic answers of NO to any and all questions over Her involvement in the contents of Boag,s email finding its way into the hands of the Herald on Sunday,

    Perhaps Trev and others asking the questions of Crusher havnt quite got the tangent quite on target, it might be more profitable to ask the ”latest” ACC Minister if the 1 hard copy She apparently had cause to make of this email didnt happen to find itself climbing the tiers of power to the 9th floor,

    Crusher didnt make that 1 hard copy for no reason,in fact into who,s sticky wee paws that copy of that email was passed from where we sit would give every appearance of having as a next stop the sticky wee fingers of a well known political commentator with connections on high with various factions of the Party…

    • Carol 20.1

      Though it now looks like Collins could be off the hook:

      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6655745/ACC-worker-re-viewed-leaked-Smith-letter

      The letter that led to Nick Smith’s Cabinet resignation was repeatedly viewed by an ACC case worker a week before it was leaked to media – and three times on the day before it first appeared in a newspaper.

      The ACC staffer who reread the letter was previously Bronwyn Pullar’s case manager.

      The case manager – Jo Parker-Dennis – was taken off Ms Pullar’s case six months ago, at Ms Pullar’s request, after clashes over how her compensation claim was being handled.

      • Pascal's bookie 20.1.1

        not the same letter I think. that’s the email to ACC from Pullar with Smith’s letter attached.

        Collins is suspected of leaking the Boag letter

        • Carol 20.1.1.1

          Thanks. Though if I’m confused between the letters, it is good spin to the wider population.

  21. North 21

    In default of something better (and giving Nick Smith due credit), how about “Lettergate” ?

    Prescient of “Litigate” perhaps ?

    I’m talking excitedly of Wellington District Court Criminal List here of course. Not your dry as civil suit. Which one of those hubristic mongrels wouldn’t richly deserve it ?

    Talking excitement I’m dying to see JuhnKey eventually front up in the House. What are the odds he mincingly shuffles in wrapped in a kimono he picked up in Seoul ?

    The master Crosby Textor distraction plan…….

  22. james 111 22

    Even I have to admit if some thing smells as bad as this.Normally there is some shite hanging round some where. Collins may have hung herself it doesnt add up that she would not have known who it was who released the emails

  23. KATY 23

    This link from Tv3 yesterday.

    http://www.3news.co.nz/ACC-Minister-printed-leaked-email/tabid/1607/articleID/248388/Default.aspx

    In particular,

    However Ms Collins’ office revealed today to RadioLive that she had printed a copy of the email.

    Asked repeatedly to confirm whether she printed the email, Ms Collins refused to answer questions, saying: “Look, I’ve made it very clear that there was no leak from my office on this matter.

    “There has been an email, the email was copied in my office when we came back into the office because we were in recess when it [was received],” she said.

    Ms Collins would not elaborate on what she meant by “copied”.

    She said the Privacy Commission inquiry, to be carried out by former Australian Federal Privacy Commissioner Malcolm Crompton, may involve the forensic examination of computers.

    So, we have collins office saying that she (Collins) printed a copy of the email but we also have Collins refusing to confirm or deny that it was printed, but admitting that it was copied in her office.
    The thing is though a printed copy would be mutch more difficult to trace than a electronic one and stop a computer forensic examination dead in its tracks.

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    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Labour committed to a healthier NZ for all
    A Labour Government will shift the focus of the health system from narrow targets and short term thinking to make public health and prevention a priority, Labour’s health spokesperson Annette King says. Releasing Labour’s full Health policy today she said...
    Labour | 15-08
  • Time Key took responsibility for Collins
    It is well past time for John Key to take some responsibility for the misuse of power and information by his Minister Judith Collins, and follow through on his last warning to her, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “The evidence released...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Dear John, time to answer a few questions… – Harawira
    “When Cameron Slater says about Kim Dotcom ‘I have lots on him…death by a thousand cuts…wait till you see what comes out in coming weeks on that fat c***t’, you have to ask whether this is the same Cameron Slater...
    Mana | 14-08
  • MANA CANDIDATE FOR IKAROA RAWHITI OPENS UP ABOUT SUICIDE
    “This week suicide has claimed yet more lives in whanau and communities in Ikaroa Rawhiti, and my heart goes out to those who are dealing with such a tragic loss”, says MANA candidate for Te Ikaroa Rawhiti, Te Hamua Nikora....
    Mana | 14-08
  • Offshore betting in Labour’s sights
    A Labour Government will clamp down on offshore gambling websites that deprive the local racing industry of funds, Labour’s Racing spokesperson Ross Robertson says. Releasing Labour’s racing policy today, he said betting on offshore websites is a major threat to...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Key has serious questions to answer on Dirty Politics
    John Key must answer the serious questions raised in Nicky Hager’s new book which reveal examples of dirty politics that New Zealanders will be deeply concerned about, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Many people will be disturbed by the evidence...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Creating an inclusive society for disabled people
    A Labour Government will provide free annual health checks for people with an intellectual disability, Labour’s Disability Issues spokesperson Ruth Dyson said today in announcing Labour’s Disability Issues policy. “We will also employ another 100 additional special education teachers and...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA name change
    This is to advise all media that on the 24th of July the ‘Mana’ party name was officially changed to ‘MANA Movement’ under the Electoral Act 1993.  The inclusion of the word ‘Movement’ in our name shouldn’t come as a surprise...
    Mana | 13-08
  • New Zealand must help in the growing Iraq crisis
    The humanitarian crisis in Iraq looks certain to get worse before it gets better,” said David Shearer Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson. “New Zealand should urgently pledge increased humanitarian assistance to United Nations agencies and NGOs present on the ground....
    Labour | 13-08
  • Allegations of migrant worker rort should be investigated
    Labour is calling for an investigation into the alleged exploitation of workers at Hutt Railway workshops, hired to repair asbestos-riddled DL locomotives. Hutt South Labour MP Trevor Mallard has written to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment asking that...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Medical and dentistry students get reprieve under Labour
    A Labour Government will restore the right of medical and dentistry students to get student loans after seven years of study because it is the right thing to do, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says. “Hard on the heels...
    Labour | 13-08
  • National must stop meddling with ACC before the election
    The redesign currently occurring at the Accident Claims Corporation (ACC) for sensitive claims needs to be put on hold immediately, said the Green Party today.The Green Party is concerned about work currently underway at ACC involving the sensitive claims service...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Markets slow but first home buyers still hurting
    First home buyers are hurting more than ever as the supply of affordable houses in the market dries up, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Reserve Bank will be happy LVR minimum deposits and rising interest rates have dampened...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Green Party celebrates MOU win on contaminated sites
    The Green Party is celebrating the announcement of a national register of contaminated sites today, and $2.5 million to start cleaning two sites up. The Green Party and the National Party agreed to include toxic site management work in their...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Emergency staff at breaking point
    The Southern DHB is so cash-strapped it is failing to fill nursing rosters, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson David Clark says.  “Every day emergency department nurses arrive at work knowing they are likely to be carrying more than their recommended workload. ...
    Labour | 12-08
  • ACC minister fails in mission to change culture
    The latest damning report by the Auditor General shows that the ACC Minister has failed to fulfil her mission to fix the sick culture at ACC and real change will not come till a new Government is elected, the Green...
    Greens | 12-08
  • Labour’s regional development fund to support Palmerston North
    Labour will consider a proposal to develop an inland port at Palmerston North, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The Palmerston North community has developed plans for an inland port which will bring jobs and economic growth to a region which...
    Labour | 12-08
  • Green Party announces priorities for Christchurch
    The Green Party has today announced its plan for a fairer, smarter and more democratic Canterbury rebuild, with a focus on smart transport solutions, restoring local democracy, and keeping Christchurch's assets.The plan sits across all of the Green Party's priorities...
    Greens | 11-08
  • Rock-star economy unplugged by China log jam
    The collapse of log prices due to oversupply in China threatens to wash the gloss off what remains of National's so-called rock-star economy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “Already this year the price of milk solids has plunged by more...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Young job seekers dealt a poor hand
    National's "keep 'em poor" card for young people on a benefit is a sorry substitute for job training, Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Sue Moroney says.  The Government today announced it would extend its payment card scheme to all teen parents...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Labour – achieving change for Kiwi women
    Working towards being a world leader in eliminating violence against women and children will be a priority for a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Women’s Affairs policy today spokesperson Carol Beaumont said while Labour had a proud track record of achieving...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Accessible healthcare also affordable
      It is obvious from Tony Ryall’s hasty attack of Labour’s plans to extend free GP visits to older people that he hasn’t bothered to actually read the policy, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. "Mr Ryall’s response to Labour’s...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Full details of oil execs’ junket revealed
    Full details of a $237,000 taxpayer-funded oil executives' junket in 2011 have emerged.National paid the nearly quarter of a million dollars to wine and dine 11 oil executives in New Zealand during the World Cup.The trip included yachting, wine tasting,...
    Greens | 10-08
  • Nats sold 500 rugby fields of land a day offshore
    Under National over one million hectares of land has been approved for overseas sale – 16 times the size of Lake Taupō or the equivalent of five hundred rugby fields a day, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “According to...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Joyce’s dodgy sums fool no-one
    Steven Joyce's attempt to attack Labour's positive plan for affordable healthcare will fool no-one. "We knew that National would try to say that we can't afford free GP visits and prescriptions for the New Zealanders who need it. But, as...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Campaign Launch – Ready to Win
    Today I launched Labour's election campaign at the Viaduct Events Centre, Auckland. Here is the speech I gave....
    Labour | 10-08
  • Labour extends free GP visits, free prescriptions
    Nearly 40 per cent of Kiwis – or 1.7 million people – will be eligible for free doctors’ visits and free prescriptions under a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Last year more than half a million New Zealanders...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Labour promises a fairer ACC for all Kiwis
    Accident compensation for loss of potential earnings will rise under a Labour Government, while people not earning at the time of their accident will also be eligible for compensation, Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. Releasing Labour’s ACC policy today...
    Labour | 08-08
  • NZ Govt must push for fair play in Fiji elections
    The New Zealand Government needs to do more to push for human rights and media freedom in Fiji as it stages its first election since the 2006 coup, the Green Party said today.Amnesty International has released a report which documents...
    Greens | 07-08
  • Government’s Own Guidelines Show John Key Would Have Been Informed Of SIS...
    Analysis by Selwyn Manning. INFORMATION THAT I HAVE ACQUIRED, sourced from the State Services Commission, states in black and white the tight guideline requirements that must be followed whenever the SIS informs a Prime Minister of any pending release of...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Simply Not Credible: Dr Tucker’s “clarifications” are only making thi...
    THAT DR WARREN TUCKER, Director of the Security Intelligence Service in 2011, agreed to the release of politically sensitive material – thereby intervening in an on-going contretemps between the leaders of the National and Labour parties – without receiving the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: Evidence of Collusion between the NZ Herald and Imm...
    . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the Herald...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Dear Canon NZ – Malevolence should induce revulsion, it shouldn’t be ce...
    Giovanni Tiso’s analysis on Slater is possibly the best in NZ… It’s been a good week for some of us. A week of feeling vindicated, offeeling galvanised. Where it goes from here will depend on several factors, some of which are largely...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • 5AA Australia: After Dirty Politics Can National Provide Stable Government?
    AS WE ALL KNOW New Zealanders and Australians do not like political parties that are unstable, or can no longer assure us that they are able to provide stable government. And the big question for Kiwis as we prepare to...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • SIS letter means it’s over for Key
    It’s over. I may not agree with all of Phil Goff’s positions, but you can’t question his integrity the way Slater did in Dirty Politics and not be deeply concerned that our Secret Intelligence Agency is being used for political...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • who to vote for in Epsom
    who to vote for in Epsom...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • The Rise and Fall of John Key – who will be the next leader of National P...
    . . It was all set to go: Teamkey would be the cult of personality that would do Stalin, Mao, Reagan, Thatcher, or any of the Nth Korean Kim Dynasty, proud.  National and it’s “Teamkey” propaganda strategy   would cash-in Big Time...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Who said Kiwis couldn’t get a fire in their bellies over an arcane intern...
    An amazing team of activists has taken the campaign on the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) to local governments throughout the country. Their latest triumph came last Monday when the Dunedin City Council endorsed a resolution expressing concern about the TPPA...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National’s Dangerous Education Agenda Exposed
    Putting aside the dirty politics coming out of the Beehive and the right-wing blogisphere, there are some very strong signals that another term of a National Government would do even more serious damage to the public education system. The Education...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • We can have clean politics and get our democracy back.
    Something is rotten in our politics and it stinks. Dirty politics has sadly become one of the defining features of this election campaign. In the light of recent revelations about the extent of nasty and disingenuous political strategies, it would...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Book burning copies of Hager’s book? The next generation of National Part...
    It seems we are getting the next generation of National Party Dirty Politics now. There are claims the Young Nats in Hamilton are buying up copies of Dirty Politics and burning them. One witness was contacted by the Waikato Times...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National Party Poetry Day Haiku
    Key’s inbox and Cam’s poison most foul, there he blows hoist by own harpoon...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Why Cunliffe will be the next PM
    David Cunliffe will be the next Prime Minister of NZ. Labour’s inclusive and positive TV adverts… …are in stark contrast to National’s team of white people powering away from the rabble of the ‘others’… …the messaging is vital and crucial...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • From smiling assassin to grumpy butcher – on giving Judith Collins a last...
    After #dirtypolitics Key isn’t the smiling assassin, he is the grumpy butcher. When he said Judith had  a ‘last chance’ he meant 1 second after voting closes on 20th September. Key would love nothing more than to cut Collins loose and end...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • If the National Party rowing advert was real….
    If the National Party rowing advert was real there would be more blood in the water. If the National Party rowing advert was real it would be Cameron Slater calling the strokes. If the national Party rowing advert was real,...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Cameron Slater: Zionist and political pundit
    It is hard to know where to start with right-wing blogger Cameron Slater (Whale Oil), especially after the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics. This confirmed everything many of us thought Slater to be: a snivelling pundit who serves...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Bryce Edwards stood down from Herald for election season??? Are the editors...
    I only found this out via twitter last night and I am still in shock. Bryce Edwards, easily the best critical thinker and news analyst the NZ Herald has has been stood down by the NZ Herald ‘for the election...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • So who’s a “conspiracy theorist” now?!
    . . As the media storm over Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“,  and allegations over smear campaigns continue to swirl,  National’s spin doctors have given Key, Collins, and other National Party ministers a string of  phrases to use in all...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Momentum shift
    When you are deeply immersed in a local campaign sometimes it can be difficult to see the helicopter view.   I don’t know how accurate the political polls are and have always known that things can change quickly in politics...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Dear Toby Manhire. Bad call on backing Farrar
    Oh dear. I say this as someone who regards Toby Manhire as one of the smartest journalists/commentators/columnists this country has, and I think Toby has made a terribly dumb call here. Let’s see if Toby is still singing Farrar’s praises...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Radio NZ apologise to me for getting it wrong
    Radio NZ have contacted me, reviewed the claim by their host that I had an advance copy of Nicky Hager’s book and they have concluded they got it wrong, they have called me and apologised and will make a statement...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Reclaim UoA – Students’ Message to Steven Joyce
    Tertiary Education – we’ve been sold a lemon  A group of 30 students attended an event on Tuesday evening about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which the Minister of Tertiary Education Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Can someone in the media please ask the PM of NZ to categorically deny any ...
    Now we see the MO of Slater & Co, the setting up, the digging for dirt, the use of staff to dig that dirt, can the Prime Minister of NZ categorically deny any National Party staff worked with Cam Slater...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Panic setting in for National as they realise what’s about to happen
    And the terror starts to set in. I’ve never seen blind panic like this before  and it’s spreading as the enormity of what’s about to happen starts to sink in. Hager’s book is a mere entree, Nicky’s personal ethics wouldn’t...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics: what the book ultimately reveals is abuse of powe...
    Guide to the many faces of John Key Nicky’s book is now doing what I suspected it would do, create a shockwave of revulsion. Andrew Geddis over at Pundit Blog sums up this attitude best, and it’s reverberations build with every...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Fancy taking children seriously
    Let’s see why all political parties should pay close attention to the Green Party’s policy for children. First, it is a comprehensive attempt to put children, not ideology, at the heart of family policy. Wow, children at the heart of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Amnesty International: Dear Azerbaijan, Stop Torture, Love Kiwi Kids
    This is a world where many adults often underestimate Generation Y. Being only a few years out of being a teenager myself, I feel I can make this statement with certainty. However, I have been the Youth Intern at Amnesty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GCSB meetings today in Christchurch 1pm at Uni 7pm at Cathedral
    The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. 1pm at Canterbury University bottom floor James Height Building: Chair: Bomber Bradbury Ruth Dyson – Labour Party...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about
    Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Guide to when Key is lying
    Guide to when Key is lying...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The State of the Student Nation …or is just Al...
    Students politics are dead and our student media is in terminal decline. The most disappointing thing about university is the politics, or should I say lack of? I was raised with the idea that students held the power.They were the...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Love Lifts Us Up: Thoughts from the Green Party’s campaign launch.
    Author Eleanor Catton wants people to give their party vote to the Greens.Photo by Peter Meecham NO ONE WAS QUITE SURE how he did it. Somehow Bob Harvey had persuaded the owners of the rights to Joe Cocker’s Up Where...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Test Stream
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    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • LIVE STREAM: You, Me and the GCSB ChCh Public Meetings
    LIVE STREAM EVENT here at 1pm & 7pm: The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. PLEASE NOTE: TDB recommends Chrome and Firefox...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today,
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • How @whaledump might destroy the popular vote for National
    Dirty Politics is now creating a meltdown and National are in danger of a total vote collapse. The real threat to for National was if Nicky had all the emails released via the anonymous hacker who took them. That danger is now a...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Open letter to Radio NZ – you need to make a retraction now
    I have just sent this off to Radio NZ right now Dear Radio NZ Firstly, what a great interview by Guyon Espiner this morning with the Prime Minister. Great to see such hard hitting journalism. Unfortunately I am not contacting...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Radio NZ are lying about me
    I am getting this all second hand at the moment as I don’t bother listening to Radio NZ (except for that wonderful Wallace Chapman in the weekends) but there is a claim that Suzie Ferguson just insinuated on Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Farrar’s fake claim of being invaded + Slater’s claims of death threats...
    The counter spin to avoid focus on the series allegations made in Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics continues. David Farrar’s ridiculous hysterics that he was invaded and his privacy has been blah blah blah has all been reduced from computer hacking to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • A shout out to the unsung heroes – our Public Service staff
    Government departments, particularly in the social welfare, education and health areas get a lot of shtick. And it’s not unjustified. We have problems in the way that our government departments treat those in need. And I do not intend to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Key’s ducking for cover – utterly unbelievable!!!
    .   . I don’t often re-print media stories verbatim – but this piece by Andrea Vance, for Fairfax Media,  deserves wider circulation. Please note the highlighted statements by Dear Leader as he ducks, weaves, obfuscates, and deflects any and...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Who is the source of Hager’s emails?
    Who is the source of Hager’s emails? Kim Dotcom has categorically denied he has anything to do with this and Nicky Hager has categorically denied that Kim was the source of the emails. Whatever you think about Kim (and he...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Dirty Politics – Audio+Text Why It Is Essential Raw Data Be Released Imme...
    MIL OSI – Source: RadioLive – Sunday Panel Analysis Headline: Dirty Politics – Audio Analysis by Selwyn Manning + Rodney Hide + Mark Sainsbury MIL Video: Selwyn Manning, Rodney Hide, and Mark Sainsbury discuss and debate the explosive details revealed...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • TV One and TV3 Political Polls – not such a landslide now
    Before the impact of Dirty Politics has been felt, the National Party high point in the Polls had been reached and their inevitable  drop begins. Despite the mainstream media telling NZers for almost 3 years that John Key would win...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – You will not believe Key’s defence of hackin...
    He actually used a sporting analogy. Can you believe it? John Key, asked on the fact that his staff had entered into a Labour Party computer and downloaded their database, Key replied, “It’s a bit like the Wallabies positing up their...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • A brief word on 100 Top political Tweeters
    The NZ Herald has put together a very useful list of top 100 political twtter accounts, what is most interesting from the lists is that the right wing all work hand in glove with each other where as the Left...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Are Whaleoil’s traffic stats a bloated illusion?
    Dim Post has done a critical analysis of just how real Cameron Slater’s traffic stats are. TDB has only been around for a year with a fragment of the digital footprint of the older blogs, yet we have managed to become...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Is Jordan Williams deceptive enough to blackma...
    There are so many issues raised by Nicky Hager’s book, that any one of them would be worthy of total focus on. Let’s chat about the claim in the book that Jordan Williams bragged to Slater and Lusk that he had...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Why ‘see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evi...
    This sign shows how National’s see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil denial isn’t working. National’s response to the book is that there is NOTHING in there that deserves anything more than the most briefest of eye motions. Key won’t...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Commissioner of Police v Kim Dotcom And Ors
    An order is made extending the duration of the registration of the restraining orders issued by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia on 10 and 25 January 2012 and registered in New Zealand on 18...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Labour Announcement on Future of Hillside Workshops Welcome
    Labour leader David Cunliffe’s announcement in Dunedin today that a government led by his party would re-open Hillside Railway workshops was welcomed by the Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMTU). ‘Since the workshops were shut down in late...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Primary teachers and principals vote to put kids first
    Teachers and principals have voted overwhelmingly against the Government’s controversial “Investing in Educational Success” policy, including proposed highly-paid principal and teacher roles....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunkett: Educating for Success
    In all the turmoil stirred up by the "Dirty Politics" revelations, the real issues that the campaign should be about have been put to one side....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Dirty Politics – Number One Bestseller and Back in Stores
    An exposé of the hidden side of New Zealand politics, Nicky Hager's book, Dirty Politics , has been in hot demand since its release last Wednesday....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Epsom: profiling NZ’s most controversial electorate
    Welcome to the wealthy inner Auckland electorate of Epsom: home of coat-tailing, the Tea Tapes, a convicted outgoing MP... and heavy newspaper and magazine readership....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Families Free From Violence campaign and website
    We are pleased to announce the launch of our Families Free From Violence campaign and our new Families Free From Violence website. This website has been created to encourage people to take responsibility for ending family violence by seeking help...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • PSA And DHBs Reach Settlement on Five Collective Agreements
    The 20 District Health Boards are pleased to reach settlement via mediation on five Multi Employer Collective Agreements (MECAs) with the Public Service Association for 12,000 mental and public health nurses, allied, public health and technical staff,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Refusal to complete census results in 46 convictions
    Failing to fill out a census form has resulted in the convictions of 46 people, Statistics New Zealand said today....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Council Amalgamations Still Bad Deal
    Northland, Bay of Plenty, and Wellington ratepayers should not be seduced into accepting the amalgamation of their Councils by a recent amendment to legislation allowing for local boards not community boards, Chris Leitch, Democrats for Social Credit...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • DHB industrial action withdrawn
    The Public Service Association (PSA) has withdrawn notices of industrial action covering 12,000 health workers at District Health Boards (DHBs) across New Zealand, after progress was made in mediation....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Aged Care Pledge Needs Better Target, Says Care Agency
    Labour’s pledge to set up an aged care working group to address industry concerns is good to see, but appears to skirt the obvious issue of a looming lack of beds and carers for our rapidly growing elderly population, says...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Social inequality still rife in New Zealand
    Social inequality has worsened over the past decade in New Zealand, a new study from Victoria University of Wellington shows....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Working towards a living wage and more Māori in paid work
    The Māori Party will build on the gains it has already achieved in Government and accelerate job opportunities particularly for young Māori....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Deepwater Group Supports Changes to Catch Limits
    The Deepwater Group says the increase in the Total Allowable Commercial Catch for hoki shows the benefits of a long term commitment to build biomass in this major New Zealand fishery....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Ohariu candidate Sean Fitzpatrick
    “Our Ohariu candidate will be Sean Fitzpatrick. Sean has strong ties to the region and I’m glad to hear he will be doing his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the area,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Tauranga candidate Stuart Pederson
    “Our Tauranga candidate will be Stuart Pedersen. Stuart has strong ties to Tauranga and I’m glad he has agreed to do his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the electorate,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party scores massive own goal
    Green Party scores massive own goal as their own policy auditor criticises their fiscal plan...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party’s own Auditor of their Budget finds it dodgy
    “The Alternative Budget released by the Green's does not even stack up in the eyes of their chosen auditor – Infometrics” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • New shark finning laws fall short for threatened species
    Environmental groups are welcoming some aspects of a raft of law changes announced today in relation to shark finning, but say that overall the chance for New Zealand to catch up with international efforts in shark conservation is being missed....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Promoting Labour’s Positive Policies
    General Secretary of the New Zealand Labour Party, Tim Barnett, today launched Labour’s television advertisements for the 2014 election. The advertisements help tell Labour’s positive story for a better New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug Court: Rare Insight into New Alternative Justice Model
    Māori Television’s latest New Zealand documentary presents a fascinating look inside a new alternative justice model – through the stories of convicted criminals....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Political parties pledge to increase overseas aid
    A survey of political parties looking at how much New Zealand should spend on Official Development Assistance (ODA) shows the overwhelming majority of parties are committed to raising the bar according to the Council for International Development (CID)....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Top Kiwis backing Tip the Scales campaign
    Sir Graham Henry, former All Black Kees Meeuws, singer-song writer Jamie McDell and fishing guru Matt Watson have pledged their support to Tip the Scales, a pre-election campaign generating public support for rebuilding New Zealand’s depleted inshore...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Maritime Union continues to press over dirty politics
    Maritime Union National President Garry Parsloe says Ports of Auckland management is trying to get off the hook from its involvement with extreme right wing bloggers during the Ports of Auckland dispute....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • No end in sight to overwhelming human cost of conflict
    Two ceasefires have brought some respite to civilians in Gaza and southern Israel, amid hope that a durable cessation of hostilities might occur. In Gaza, these breaks in the fighting have barely given people enough time to seek medical care,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Young Kiwi speakers to represent NZ at Gallipoli 2015
    The RSA is delighted at the announcement made by Veterans' Affairs Minister Michael Woodhouse today, that all eight regional finalists of the 2015 ANZ RSA Cyril Bassett VC Speech Competition will be included in a group of 25 Youth Ambassadors...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • “Bromance” Marriage Stunt Insulting Says LegaliseLove
    A promotional competition asking two best mates to get married in order to win an all-expenses-paid trip to the 2015 Rugby World Cup is insulting, marriage equality campaign LegaliseLove Aotearoa claims....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Cannabis Party first to register for 2014 General Election
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party became the first party to register for the 2014 General Election today, when it meet with the Electoral Commission in Wellington at Midday....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • PGA: Addresses NZ’s ratification of Arms Trade Treaty
    President of Parliamentarians for Global Action and New Zealand MP Ross Robertson today addressed a celebration to mark New Zealand’s imminent ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), which is expected within the next few weeks....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Roy Morgan Poll August 20
    National (48%) holds its lead over Labour/ Greens (39%) as ‘Dirty Politics’ revelations provide a new challenge for PM John Key’s leadership. NZ First surge to 6.5% - highest support since September 2013....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security (IGIS), Cheryl Gwyn, announced today that she would be instituting an inquiry concerning allegations that the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service (NZSIS) might have released official information...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Glen Scanlon to Head Digital Media at Radio New Zealand
    Radio New Zealand has announced the appointment of Glen Scanlon to the recently created position of head of digital media....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Israel’s Gaza ceasefire violations go unreported
    It seems that it is only ceasefire violations that emanate from the Palestinian side that ever get publicised....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug courier sentenced for importing heroin
    South African drug courier, Laura Elizabeth Cilliers, was sentenced today in the Christchurch District Court to 7 years and 10 months in prison for importing approximately 1.2 kilograms of heroin....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Residential Property Speculators Days Numbered
    Rent heat cools as homes are replaced ... Liz McDonald ... The Press http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/your-property/10400851/Rent-heat-cools-as-homes-are-replaced Comment on thread (in moderation) … Christchurch is a “severely unaffordable” City as the Annual Demographia Survey ( www.demographia.com ) illustrates … thanks...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Academic’s study shows need for a Ministry of Public Input
    A book by Associate Professor Jennifer Lees-Marshment recommends the creation of a Ministry of Public Input to collect, process and communicate the publics’ ideas to government. The University of Auckland’s political marketing expert says the...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Government inaction killing innocent motorists
    Innocent people are dying due to long delays in installing centre lane barriers on high risk roads, says an outspoken road safety campaigner....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Property revaluations for council rates must be reformed
    Opportunity to bring controls on rating value changes and more equitable level of annual rates increase...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Ron Mark Sets the Example
    The Taxpayers’ Union is welcoming the pledge by Mayor of Carterton and NZ First candidate Ron Mark who has announced he would relinquish his roles as Mayor and member of two District Health Boards if successfully elected to Parliament. Taxpayers’...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Ban 1080 Candidates announced for 2014 General Election
    MEDIA RELEASE: Angry rural communities want issue of 1080 aerial drops taken to the polls, says party co-leader Ban 1080 Candidates announced for 2014 General Election...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Governor General Gives Direction to Conduct Election
    The Governor General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has given the green light for this year’s General Election....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • New Zealand Animal Groups Unite to Help
    WELLINGTON (19 Aug 2014) – The Be Cruelty-Free campaign to ban animal testing of cosmetics in New Zealand just got bigger and stronger, as two leading animal protection groups come on board. Joining forces with Humane Society International which has...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Students Interrupt Steven Joyce at University Event
    A group of 30 students this evening interrupted an event about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce began to speak, students interrupted with a speech of their own....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Caritas among first responders offering relief in Iraq
    As the plight of Iraqis fleeing persecution reaches tragic levels, Caritas Aotearoa New Zealand has pledged an initial $10,000 to support the work of Caritas in Iraq to provide humanitarian aid to thousands of families affected by the war and...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • iPredict 2014 Election Update #31: Nats take hit
    Election race narrows significantly · National party vote now below Labour/Greens · National’s probability of leading next government dips to 72% · Joyce expected to take over as National leader before end of 2015, as Collins’ prospects fall...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Call for applications – Fulbright scholar awards
    Fulbright New Zealand calls for applications to a range of scholar awards for New Zealand academics, artists and professionals to undertake academic and cultural exchanges to the United States of America. A Fulbright exchange provides life-changing opportunities...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • CWS launches appeal for Iraqis on World Humanitarian Day
    Christian World Service is appealing for help for tens of thousands of Iraqis caught up in one of the world’s horrifying conflicts....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Promoting the Voice of the Rangatahi
    Young Māori voters are seen by the Māori Party to have a vital part to play in saving the Māori seats in Parliament says the Māori Party’s youngest candidate, Reverend Te Hira Paenga. “What we’re hearing on the ground is...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Nelson Election Candidates’ Community Forum
    Nelson’s community and volunteer sector has some serious questions to put to the local candidates in the run up to next month’s general election....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
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