Think tanks & global-local networks

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1. Colonial Viper 1

   20 February 2013 at 11:25 am

   Monbiot concludes by saying that the solution to this concerning situation is more transparency.

   This is an absolutely weak line to take. The answer to this is to put money into public service oriented news investigation and reporting, and so that they don’t have to rely on cheap and easy sources of prefiltered ‘information’.
   • muzza 1.1

     20 February 2013 at 11:38 am

     CV – The answers are far more complicated, and you know it.

     Karol, a timely piece to be sure, however its one which hardly touches the sides, and certainly does not answer the inevitable question

     What outcome are the funders, and members of such think tanks, driving towards?

     There has to be some purpose to it, or why bother!

     Another point, is that the names mentioned being associated with think tanks in this article, are simply the bit part players, you will never see (publically), names of the true backers, these get blown off as, conspiracy!

     Good to see this getting some air time though, its an important message.
     • Colonial Viper 1.1.1

       20 February 2013 at 11:47 am

       CV – The answers are far more complicated, and you know it.

       That is a reason why Monbiot’s suggestion of “transparency” is not adequate in of itself.
     • Colonial Viper 1.1.2

       20 February 2013 at 11:50 am

       What outcome are the funders, and members of such think tanks, driving towards?

       There has to be some purpose to it, or why bother!

       You’re not suggesting that the funders handed over all that money without first ensuring that there were clear goals and objectives for the use of those funds? I very much doubt that would be the case.
       • muzza 1.1.2.1

         20 February 2013 at 12:17 pm

         It was tongue in cheek, of course there will be clear goals and objectives involved..

         I’m sure it’s all easily explained away as, *conspiracy theory*
   • karol 1.2

     20 February 2013 at 7:56 pm

     Yes, that’s a very good point, CV, about Monbiot’s weak conclusion. I think it can be part of the solution, to expose the activities of the right wing ‘think tanks’ and related activities.

     But the powerful grip of the Neocons on most of the national and international institutions need to be challenged. This can partly be done through a massive left wing input into the media and other communicative technologies, like blogs. The power of the collective, in the form of small and large groups, need to be continually mobilised to challenge all the right wing propaganda and the policies they attempt to mask.
2. MrSmith 2

   20 February 2013 at 11:36 am

   Seeding the Doubt, or Poisoning the well, all you need are a few drops, it’s tasteless odorless and almost undetectable.

   Never forget these lot have access to some of the best PR and Marketing minds alive, they will alway win because they play on our self-doubt and insecurity, and if that fails they can alway play the ‘are you prepared to take a drop in your standard of living line’.
   • Colonial Viper 2.1

     20 February 2013 at 11:44 am

     ‘are you prepared to take a drop in your standard of living line’.

     Some of us know that it is inevitable. But the very few at the top will keep squeezing the rest of us harder and harder so that they can maintain their own privilege as long as is possible against ongoing energy decline.
   • muzza 2.2

     20 February 2013 at 11:45 am

     Don’t forget, psychology was born long before PR/marketing officially became a *religion*, and understanding the human mind, has been a key component in the control. PR etc simply plays on what is known about the human mind, and the masses, defenseless against the plethora of attacks against them, which they do not, cannot even see happening!

     Others who deny its happening, have also succumbed to the attacks!
     • Afewknowthetruth 2.2.1

       20 February 2013 at 1:12 pm

       Apparently the term ‘manufacturing consent’ arose in the early twentieth century.

       Don’t forget ‘smoking is good for you’. ‘ thalidomide is perfectly safe’, ‘nuclear energy will be so cheap we won’t need to meter it’, ‘there is no link between vehicle exhaust and gobal warming’……

       The dumbed-down masses remain dumbed-down, glued to the crap on the goggle box and uninterested in their own futures.

       The Great Die-off has commenced, via apathy, obesity, diabetes, cancers, ‘rogue gunmen’, Fukushima, poor harvests etc. The elites will be pleased. Disaster Capitalism can now take it’s ‘rightful’ place.
       • Colonial Viper 2.2.1.1

         20 February 2013 at 1:23 pm

         As perfectly deescribed in ‘The Century of the Self’

         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prTarrgvkjo
3. joe90 3

   20 February 2013 at 11:49 am

   The DeVos mob are also funding the campaigns against same sex marriage and public education.

   And then there’s Erik and his private army’s participation in the Syrian conflict
   • Colonial Viper 3.1

     20 February 2013 at 11:51 am

     mercernaries good
     • Rogue Trooper 3.1.1

       20 February 2013 at 1:45 pm

       btw
       http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10866463
       “precariat”
       • Draco T Bastard 3.1.1.1

         21 February 2013 at 10:35 am

         Quoting article:

         But Standing sees the precariat as potentially easy prey to the extreme right, bringing risks of fascism and violent racism. His view is it should be possible to avoid this, but first we must acknowledge that precarious work is here to stay.

         Once we overcome denial of this state of permanence we can go on to identify what precarious workers need for a good quality of life.

         And this is where the Universal Income comes in, it would be an acceptance that things have changed. The problem is that people are still treating work and income the same way that they were being treated in the 19th century (and earlier, National shows a tendency to think that people need to be forced to work which, IMO, is where their beneficiary bashing comes from), that people have to work 40+ hours per week to survive despite the fact that productivity has grown so much that we could easily have what we have on 10 hours per week or less each. The only people benefiting from the excess work that we do are the few at the top, the people who own the businesses.
         • rosy 3.1.1.1.1

           21 February 2013 at 11:33 am

           ^ This. Absolutely to the point.
     • McFlock 3.1.2

       20 February 2013 at 2:04 pm

       really? are they under UN mandate? Are UN member states refusing to commit troops to prevent a genocide in Abu Dhabi? Or are you full of shit?

       You’re beginning to be a bit of a parrot CV – as soon as you hear something that might be interpreted as at all relevant to an old debate you squawk the same out of context, false, and quite stupid lie.

       Another fucking derail, by the way.
       • Colonial Viper 3.1.2.1

         21 February 2013 at 10:42 am

         I suppose you think that mercernaries won’t be doing contracts for other ’employers’ inbetween their UN ones. Especially after you funnel large sums of taxpayers money into that ‘industry’ in order to grow it.
4. Afewknowthetruth 4

   20 February 2013 at 12:54 pm

   Corporations have it made -well in the short term; in the long term they are totally screwed, just like the rest of us- because at the moment corporations overcharge customers (ordinary folk) and funnel a portion of the profits they make into providing those customers with misinformation (or outright lies); another portion of profits goes toward buying politicians, who dutifully implement policies geared towards enriching corporations.

   I’ve just been watching a documentary about light bulbs. The problem companies had was that some were producing light bulbs that lasted far too long. A cartel was formed and the life of bulbs was reduced in order to stimulate consumption. Similar things go on throughout all aspects of western society. Hence, humanity has a very grim future,dominated by resource depletion and environmental collapse.
5. Rogue Trooper 5

   20 February 2013 at 1:21 pm

   Gr8t to see the “A” word karol (nothing primitive about it; Anarchist political thought and discourse has been characterized as amongst the greatest of human achievements; ref-personal communication).
6. klem 6

   21 February 2013 at 3:06 am

   Yea its all very secret, that’s why everybody knows about it.

   I know, its some kind of right wing conspiracy that’s what it is. Just like the faked
   moon landings and 911. Lol!
   • felixviper 6.1

     21 February 2013 at 3:55 am

     Who said anything about it being secret?
     • klem 6.1.1

       26 February 2013 at 2:03 am

       The article did, here’s a quote “Conspiracies against the public don’t get much uglier than this. As the Guardian revealed last week, two secretive organisations working for US billionaires …” blah blah blah. Secretive is the word they used.

       cheers
       • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1

         26 February 2013 at 2:11 am

         Everyone has heard of the CIA. But the CIA remains an extremely secretive organisation.

         See what I did there?

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