Comments on: Tory charity

By: Snail

Snail — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:08:07 +0000

I see, thank you.
So appropos.
I’m still smiling at the “devil’s advocate” in your remarks

By: The geek speaks

The geek speaks — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:03:50 +0000

Ianmac
I’d agree with that.
I spent several months, a couple years ago canvassing the streets to sign up members for amnesty international.
I would have signed up over a hundred people to making monthly contributions in the time i was there… lots of students, lots of benificiaries, lots of tradies and low level office scum like myself… not once was i able to sign up a suit. it was sad to see that those most capable of giving were those least willing to….

By: Snail

Snail — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:53:28 +0000

BD,

you continue to amaze me.. For someone who has spent “time in the states” (you recently said this, I believe) the following strikes out â€” The bottom line: when it comes to other nations, the United States is the most generous country in the world.

There being no concept whatsoever in this statement or in the mindset that wrote of what it means to be a recipient of USAid.. or indeed a US aider.

as the saying goes: aint no free lunches!

By: Strathen

Strathen — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:48:56 +0000

Snail – I’m not referring to charity at all.

By: Dr Steevens

Dr Steevens — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:52:46 +0000

Once again, James at Editing The Herald offers an interesting perspective – do we really want to be like the US with charity plugging gaps in social services?

http://editingtheherald.blogspot.com/2009/03/thursday-march-2009-charity.html

By: ak

ak — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:41:56 +0000

Ever heard of the widow’s mite Bretty? Or “tied aid”? Or buying influence?

By: Brett Dale

Brett Dale — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:20:10 +0000

Taken from the web:

There is altogether too much talk about the United States being ungenerous with foreign aid. We show up as 21st in the rankings, in per capita terms, according to one estimate. These figures neglect remittances, where the U.S. is a very clear first with $28.4 billion a year sent to other countries. The bottom line: when it comes to other nations, the United States is the most generous country in the world.

Are you interested in the rest of the top ten, for remittances? Saudi Arabia, with $15.1 billion a year, is a clear number two. Then you have Germany, Belgium, Switzerland, France, Luxembourg, Israel, Italy, and Japan. The Scandinavian nations receive so much kudos for their high foreign aid per capita, but when it comes to remittances, even tiny Luxembourg, population 437,389, beats them out.

By: TightyRighty

TightyRighty — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:55:36 +0000

Tax cuts for donating to charities now being pushed. gee that kind of throws a spanner in the works of “who will donate $10k a year to charities”.

By: Phil

Phil — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:10:18 +0000

And in many cases high income earners are lazy sods doing three fifths of bugger all for their massive pay cheques.

I’m guessing that it hasn’t occured to you that a lot of those ‘lazy sods’ were the guys buring the candle from both ends, working 16 hour days, during their 20′s and 30′s?

By: r0b

r0b — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:30:22 +0000

Why Monty you are practically a saint. I bet you would never say something like: “Personaly i do not give too much of a shit about the lower clasess – I am not one of them but i never planned to be. Yes – the poor people can go screw themselves.” I can never imagine you ranting: “Yes – the poor people can go screw themselves. When I see the parasite brother-in-law living off my hard earned taxes … I no longer give a shit about the parasites”. And so on. And so on. Tory charity indeed.

so don’t talk to me about absolute or %

Why not? Your personal image of yourself as a superhuman and god’s gift to the deserving poor is irrelevant to the fact that the low income earners, whom you despise so much, are more generous than the rich.

By: Rex Widerstrom

Rex Widerstrom — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:43:03 +0000

Oh bloody hell. The righties seem to want to give people the “choice” to starve to death while the lefties want to give them the “choice” of a school menu featuring nothing but tofu and mung beans

How about we resist the bloody urge to keep tinkering with everything just because we’re a government and thus we’re quite certain we must far smarter than the last lot who were in power?

All things in moderation, as they say – meat pies and welfare policy included.

By: Snail

Snail — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:32:57 +0000

Simon-5 and whomsoever et als talk of takers..

Well, just in from Huffingpost is a remarkable story of a once-was-taker giving back. Yes, this cites some very significant (devil-in-the-detail) data and insofar as the rule of law (read sanctity of contract law) those IN-laws are definitely IN.

Dah-dah â€” Douglas Poling, who received the richest payment of more than $6.4 million, is the 48-year-old son of a former chief executive of Ford Motor Co. At AIG he is an executive vice president with responsibility for energy and infrastructure investments. He is one of the roughly 418 current and former employees from AIG’s financial-products unit who received bonus payments.

note please do, employees of the financial-products unit. WE can leave off this ledger the fate of FMC, suffice to recognise its imperilled position along with other tranport sector folks. But get that where the money is.. and maybe wonder a little at how much you were paying for gasoline/diesel last year. Connectedâ€”you bet!

And worth looking out for huh..

By: Tane

Tane — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:39:57 +0000

good point. i’ll go put his ip in moderation

By: mike

mike — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:34:54 +0000

“John Key is a dipshit”
Gee the tone of this site his lowered since Pierson left.

Also banning HS and calling him a”smarmy fucker” for dearing to link the EPMU to labour was a joke right?

Anyone would think you lefties are stressed out or something….

By: Felix

Felix — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:29:38 +0000

Wasn’t this “Simon-(x)” given a permanent ban a while back?