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Unbecoming & out of touch

Written By: - Date published: 12:17 pm, November 6th, 2012 - 171 comments
Categories: Minister for International Embarrassment - Tags:

I just wonder in what world John Key thinks that it’s OK for the PM to go around slagging off and insulting people in public. Planet Key, perhaps. Why does he think it’s OK for him to call a visitor to our country ‘”thick as batshit”? Why does he think that it’s not homophobic to use “gay” as an insult (and that it’s OK to attack people just for wearing red)? And does he think it’s not hurtful when he says “gay” is a synonym for “weird”?

Is he just that out of touch?

171 comments on “Unbecoming & out of touch”

  1. vto 1

    Key is out of touch. But that is hardly surprising – he worked for merchant banks and then went into parliament. Where would he ever have been exposed to planet earth?

    As for his comments re Beckham and gay shirts – exposes his shallow nature and understanding of the world. Also exposes his nasty side. I have always maintained that people are better judged by their nasty side rather than their pleasant side. Most everyone has an ok pleasant side but it is those with the heavy nasty side that are the dangers and the true haters that one needs to be wary of …

  2. Enough is Enough 2

    His ‘gay’ comment is nothing short of hate speech which has no place in our society.

    He is so out of touch and has once again committed a crime by inciting and encouraging more hatred by his loyal supporters.

    The poor kiwi’s in London at the moment. They must be copping incredible grief from the English as a result of being associated with this homophobic hater who has also damaged this nations relationship with the UK.

    • insider 2.1

      It’s such a long way short of hate speech I really wonder how you could lose so much perspective. You may as well indict most 9-14 year old school boys too.

      Do you really think it will come to any surprise to a Brit that DB might not be considered the brightest? You don’t know much about their culture. A Posh and Becks joke just won best one liner at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival

      “You know who really gives kids a bad name? Posh and Becks.” (the next line is ‘or thick and thin as I call them’)

      • Colonial Viper 2.1.1

        insider your standards are so low, its no wonder you think the NZ Prime Minister can speak in this way to teenage girls, about notable foreign nationals.

        • vto 2.1.1.1

          CV, insider is clearly one of John Key’s kind. They will no doubt vote for each other.

          Unfortunately they cannot seem to see that getting humour at the expense of others is boorish, boring, rude and not even funny – except to people who are boorish, boring, rude and not even funny. Their brains don’t extend very far..

        • insider 2.1.1.2

          I didn’t say I thought the Beckham comment was acceptable. I thought it was pretty gay. But it’s hardly likely to damage “this nations relationship with the UK”

          • crashcart 2.1.1.2.1

            Why would you think gay people would say that Becks is stupid? I am sure they have a range of view’s.

          • Colonial Viper 2.1.1.2.2

            Insider, you thought that the PM’s “Gay” comment was “Gay”?

            Seriously???

            • insider 2.1.1.2.2.1

              No not seriously. I should have put a smiley there.

              • Jim Nald

                The trick is to let loose a few kicks, derogatory and insulting, and then say you are joking. It’s a laff. All good on Planet Key.

          • framu 2.1.1.2.3

            “I didn’t say I thought the Beckham comment was acceptable”

            really?

            “Do you really think it will come to any surprise to a Brit that DB might not be considered the brightest? You don’t know much about their culture. A Posh and Becks joke just won best one liner at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival”

            • insider 2.1.1.2.3.1

              In response to “They must be copping incredible grief from the English as a result of being associated with this homophobic hater who has also damaged this nations relationship with the UK.”

              • framu

                context is everything :-)

                • fatty

                  Insider struggles with context…a joke at the fringe festival is OK, therefore a comment by a prime minister is OK.
                  Frankie Boyle kind of humour is for a comedy stage, and its funny there…but when a prime minister sinks to that level its embarrassing

        • Fisiani 2.1.1.3

          I hear that in the UK Beckham is known as Bottle. Because his comments show he is empty from the neck up.
          Gay used to mean happy, then it morphed into homosexual, then it morphed into munted. Get over it. Words change their meaning. The gay gay was gay uses all three meanings. The bandage was wound around the wound.
          These threads are increasingly purely a vehicle for hate speech re John Key, the greatest ever Prime Minister in NZ history.Absolute frustration at the political impotence of such fevered attacks to convince others. Bewildered as to how the vast majority of people not only fail to take offense but actually further warm to a really likeable and genuine guy. It just shows that the hard Left are really out of touch .

          • PlanetOrphan 2.1.1.3.1

            lol, maybe you should poll Christchurch or Northland for your beloved leader.

          • vto 2.1.1.3.2

            shut up nigger

            [lprent: And even with the relevant context, when directed at another commentator, I'm not impressed by this. Repetition (by anyone) is likely to result in bans ]

          • Te Reo Putake 2.1.1.3.3

            The Sun newspaper hard left? Don’t tell Rupert Murdoch, he’s got enough bad news to deal with!

      • crashcart 2.1.2

        Big difference between a comedian in a comedy routine insulting a guy and the PM doing it after the same guy did a favour by meeting his son.

        The almost accepted use of gay to represent things that aren’t trendy or abnormal is incredibly harmful should be discouraged not encouraged. No you may not be thinnking “I hate gays’s” when you say “what a gay red shirt”. However any gay who hears you is thinking “why is a weird shirt being compared to me?” Key rather than encouraging this should be smarter and avoid the stupidity.

        • insider 2.1.2.1

          Gay is a word with a long and varied history. Why should one group get to define it? Can I similarly never use queer or queen or faggot or bent without risking offense?

          • Colonial Viper 2.1.2.1.1

            yeah insider still trying to redefine words to protect Key. FFS I cant wait until you pull out the latin roots.

            • insider 2.1.2.1.1.1

              Gay is germanic is origin. Classics fail

              • Colonial Viper

                Oh i forgot to put a smiley there

              • Te Reo Putake

                It’s French, insider. Bigot Fail.

                • insider

                  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay

                  Origin of GAY

                  Middle English, from Anglo-French gai, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German gāhi quick, sudden
                  First Known Use: 14th century

                  • Te Reo Putake

                    Yep, like I said, French in the relatively modern meaning (up to last century). Or Indo-European in the original. German was just a minor and irrelevant sidestep on the way to where we are today.

                  • McFlock

                    OMG, he was saying that the shirt was “sudden”???

                    Fucksake, this is not a definition contest here we find whatever obscure, archaic or imaginary definition that isn’t a bigoted derogatory slur.

                    The dude used a word that many people in this country use to describe some aspect of themselves, and he used it in a derogatory way. Keep polishing that turd.

          • Lightly 2.1.2.1.2

            yes. words’ meanings change but that’s irrelevant. The meaning with which Key used ‘gay’ was ‘weird, effeminate, relating to homosexuals’ – which gets its meaning as an insulting use of a word for homosexuals.

            When you call something ‘gay’ you’re saying it’s ‘bad, like homosexuals’

            • insider 2.1.2.1.2.1

              Using that criteria gay should be very offensive to homosexuals, as its previous incarnation was to do with prostitution and sexual licentiousness. Are you calling all gays slappers or willng to put out for cash?

              • Colonial Viper

                You still rewriting the dictionary to suit John Key, insider?

                • insider

                  Just using facts CV. I know that goes against your constitution

                  • Colonial Viper

                    Glad you endorse a PM who tries to impress teenage girls by slagging others off.

                    • Bob

                      CV, how about the hypocracy from you, so it is fine for Hone Harawira to call National MP’s ‘House Niggers’, as you were happy to repeat here http://thestandard.org.nz/unqualified-teachers-in-charter-schools-condemned/#comment-518632 but it’s wrong for John Key to say ‘Gay red shirt’? According to dictionary.com’s meaning for the word ‘Nigger’ it is an “Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.”, don’t worry that there are other meanings for the word, because we should only focus on the version that offends people if an MP says it.

                      Blue Leopard same for you
                      http://thestandard.org.nz/poverty-watch-2/#comment-519464

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Oh Bob, that’s cute.

                      Hone Harawira was making a political point with his ‘House Niggers’ comment.

                      What political point was Key making with his “Gay” comment, and with his “Batshit Thick” comment?

                    • felix

                      Also Bob, that comment was made in reference to maori Party MPs. How would it make any sense to make it about National MPs?

                      You do know what the term means, don’t you?

                      Seeing as you gave a dictionary definition of “nigger” instead of “house nigger”, I’m guessing that you don’t know what it means.

                      (Or that you do, and you know that your outrage would seem ridiculous and out of place if you admitted that you knew, so you pretended he just called them “niggers” instead. Lame, dude.)

                    • Bob,

                      I have not commented on the use of the word of “gay”, I have mixed responses to it, in general and in appropriate context I can find the use of it amusing, however I understand the arguments re the negative effects such speech can have.

                      The only comments I have made on this thread, is that I find our PM is simply a puppet-boy of Crosy-Textor advise and isn’t and shouldn’t be viewed as anything other than that. Did that upset you, Bob?

                      Despite not being in this conversation, you, Bob draw me in, clearly not liking my reference to us all as ‘multi-coloured house-niggers’ a few months ago. I continue to believe that is exactly what we are. When we all stop acting like such, I will change my views and not before.

                      Are you going to answer CV’s question, Bob?

                    • Bob

                      So CV, in your opinion it is okay to use hate speak when you are using it in political terms? Or is it just that you can use the full context of the sentence it was used in when its a ‘left wing’ politician but single out words in a sentence, removing context, to chastise somone when its a ‘right wing’ politician?

                      I think the context in which John Key used the word ‘Gay’ was mildly inappropriate given his position (remember, the word does have multiple meanings that are completely acceptable, would you stop your children watching the Flintstones because they have a ‘Gay ‘ol time’? Would you not eat ‘Gaytime’ icecream cones because they are bigoted?), but hardly worth getting upset about!

                      Felix, do some reading http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7623209/Harawiras-N-bomb-directed-at-National-MPs (is there some underlying racism there Felix, making assumptions about it being the Maori party? You know what they say about people in glass houses) and you are singling out the word ‘Gay’ in John Key’s sentence, what’s the difference?

                      Blue Leopard, apologies for dragging you in, just saw your name in the thread above while I was looking for CV’s comments, noted the anti-National stance to your ‘Crosby-Textor PR guys’ post and without further reading (sort of like Felix) jumped the gun adding in your ‘House Niggers’ quote. As for answering CV, done.

                    • mike e

                      Bob Hone got more than enough stick over his comments he’s the leader of a very minor party not the PM of our country

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Ahhhhh Bob, you’re so cute, I mean GAY, when you obfuscate.

                    • felix

                      ‘the fuck are you on about Bob? Do you know what the term means or not?

                      Why are you still pretending he called them “niggers” rather than “house niggers”?

                      Do you really not understand the point he was making? I find it hard to believe you’re that thick.

                    • Bob

                      Thanks CV, but I wasn’t obfuscating, I even used small words to help you understand.

                      Felix, I know what the term ‘House Negro’ is, as it was coined by Malcolm X, Hone Harawira took it to a whole new level when he said ‘House Niggers’, and if it was in reference to what Malcolm X spoke about then yes I understand the point he was trying to make, but it doesn’t excuse the fact you take what Hone Harawira said in context (even when he added the word ‘Niggers’ himself, but apparently I can’t single that out), then single out one word that John Key says without taking that in context.

                      [lprent: I haven't been interrupting the language lessons except when the language was directed against another commentator. But I'm keeping an eye on it in case it goes to excess and drops into a flamewar. ]

          • karol 2.1.2.1.3

            Gay is a word with a long and varied history. Why should one group get to define it? 
             
            Why not?  Your knowledge of socio-linguistic history is very shallow.  At the time in the 60s/70s, there were no positive words for homosexuals.  Get that?  There was NO way to talk about homosexuality that didn’t involve using words with negative associations.  I guess they could have made up a word, but it’d have been a hard slog to get anyone to use it.
             
            So campaigners opted for “gay” as a word to redefine.  This is because, in common language it also had positive associations.  The campaigning was largely successful.
             
            But in recent times there has been a move in the homophobic school-yard to undo all that hard campaigning work, and make “gay” again a sneer word.  Some gay people are trying to show young people why it’s a problem to use “gay” as a sneer.
             
            Totally irresponsible of a Prime Minister to jump on board with the schoolyard sneer, in order to try to win their support.  he should be setting a better example than that.
             
            Language is always changing – some times it’s political like any other human activity, and requires intervention.

      • bbfloyd 2.1.3

        Don’t be so uteerly thick innie…. This is our PRIME MINISTER acting like a homopobic teenage bully…. not just some nameless schoolboy with a stunted emotional developement issue….

        He is our LEADER, and as such, is expected to conduct himself with the dignity that office requires…..

        Go down to your local high school, and engage your empathy with the bully’s on the playground if you truly beleive that crap you talk….. leave the grownup stuff to those who understand what “grownup” means…

        • insider 2.1.3.1

          point is floyd, it’s not a bullying term. It’s morphed to something much much less. Key likes to be liked and uses language to get in with the crowd. It doesn’t grate well with me at times but it works for him. Stuff poll has the majority accepting it as a joke – reasonably even split but if a US presidential election it’d be a landslide.

          • McFlock 2.1.3.1.1

            yeah, it is a bullying term. Just FYI.

          • shorts 2.1.3.1.2

            given Key’s age, it most certainly was meant in a insulting and homophobic manner, albeit one he personally finds amusing

            gutless he tries to blame his son for his usage of the term

          • crashcart 2.1.3.1.3

            When I was young it was not uncommon to hear people refer to a job not done properly or half done as a Maori Job. This was completely normal and most people didn’t bat an eyelid when used. Didn’t change that it was an incredably racist thing to say. Your use of gay is similar. Claiming its common use doesn’t make it any less insulting.

          • Enough is Enough 2.1.3.1.4

            What is your opinion on the word ‘nigger’?

            It has also changed meaning over time?

            Would it be fine for the PM to say “I was partying with my niggers last night’?

            • insider 2.1.3.1.4.1

              No skinny white boy should use that word.

              • onsos

                Here’s a hint: If you’re gonna use a term that describes a community, you do it on their terms. So you white boy should use the n-word, because of its history. Using ‘gay’ pejoratively is similar.

          • bbfloyd 2.1.3.1.5

            Sigh, Innie……So Johnny’s an obsequious crawler, and that’s ok, ’cause it works for him??

            Quoting the herald, rather than stuff,may have had more validity in proving how large the group of ignoramuses, with not even the vaguest notion of what’s acceptable for the spokesman for a whole country to publically opine and what isn’t, is,…. but not much…. The herald has to appear(in the editors mind) neutral at least…..

            Still making half arsed excuses for an excuse of a leader….

            • Colonial Viper 2.1.3.1.5.1

              bb which political party are you talking about here

              :twisted:

              • bbfloyd

                I find that I have to stop and think before I can answer that…….sigh..

                Three words keep repeating ,,”the merry pranksters” ..over and over… and there’s glitter on the walls…Johnnies been there too..

      • Sanctuary 2.1.4

        The problem with your argument is that 9-14 year old school boys are children/adolescents. Are you really saying the comparative test for appropriate behaviour for the prime minister of an OECD member, a first world nation of some dignity, is that of the giggling inanity of pre-pubescent school boys?

        As for the Beckham comment – its cost nothing to simply be polite to people with whom you have no quarrel. Gratuitously insulting anyone for no other reason than a cheap laugh is simply rude. What next, point out a mentally impaired person and start walking funny whilst loudly saying “look, I’m spastic to”?That would probably bring the house down with the right crowd.

        Quite simply, when you occupy the supposedly dignified office of prime minister you should behave to a higher standard. We all know Key doesn’t take democratic institutions seriously, including that of the office of prime minister. It is just a pity he chooses to parade his contempt for his office in such public ways.

        • ianmac 2.1.4.1

          Really dumb for a PM trying to curry favour with youngsters by using their vernacular. I think that it was showing himself to be as thick as two planks, or maybe one plank.

        • insider 2.1.4.2

          The problem with your argument is that I’m not making that argument at all. What I said was it was far from ‘hate speech’ (which was frankly a hysterical comparison – use the definition that suits; it works as well for the two I know).

          And I’ve not defended the Becks comment – I agree it was silly and rude (if true) – but said its hardly likely to damage relations with a country that has a long history of Becks bashing.

          • onsos 2.1.4.2.1

            Point is, insider, whether it’s hate speech or not, it’s a bullying term. That’s how it’s used in schools. That’s how Key used it here. That’s how you’re using it.

            When called up on it, teenagers usually say something like, ‘Just jokes!’ Only, it’s not. Therson who is accused of being ‘gay’ is haveing their sexuality and gender identitiy questioned, and anyone who identifies as being gay is explicitly insulted.

            It is bullying. We educate teenagers about this. We expect better from someone who has the epithet ‘Right Honorable’, because they normalise discourse.

            That is a very ‘insider’ thing to do–to opt for the idiot opinion. Don’t be insulted. ‘insider’ means a few things, including idiotic. It doesn’t refer to you necessarily.

            • insider 2.1.4.2.1.1

              anything can be bullying said with the right attitude. In my experience its mostly used without any awareness of the more adult alternative meaning, knowledge required for it to be bullying in the way you describe.

              • onsos

                Pretty much every teenager knows what gay means. John Key knows this. I know this, you know this. Your comment here is moronic.

                I’ll make it clear: if you use a word that describes a group of people as an insult, you are insulting that group of people.

      • Enough is Enough 2.1.5

        We don’t indict in New Zealand and are you really comparing John Key’s hate speech to the mindless pranks of a 9 year old. Really. Is that who we hold our fuckwith of a Prime Minister up against. AWESOME leadership

        Because of Key’s homophobic rant, the problem of 9 year olds using inapproriate language will increase.

        Your defence of this homophobe tells me a lot about your own bigotry.

          • Enough is Enough 2.1.5.1.1

            Point well and truly flew you by didn’t it….

            • insider 2.1.5.1.1.1

              When you start with attempt to point score in an utterly incompetent way, don’t be surprised if people ignore the rest.

              I think you can be pretty confident that most 9 year olds don’t give a second thought to what the PM does or doesn’t say when choosing the latest playground insult.

              • Enough is Enough

                Im my view you are nothing more than bigot.

                You are justifying the PM using hate speech and have no problem with what our children will think of his remarks. This clearly shows you have no problem with homophobic bigotry in our society.

                Give yourself a slow clap…

              • Enough is Enough

                PS…when was a 9 year old last indicted. We don’t trial kids in New Zealand.

                Point scored me thinks.

                • Rob

                  wow, must be amazing being you, how righteous and superior, but of course that is the standard way. I have young kids and this is one term that is in current circulation, alongside many others that I am sure would steam you up into an a bigger lather.

                • insider

                  “we don’t trial kids in New Zealand.”

                  No but we do trial dogs.

              • mike e

                Outsider wasn’t Crusher Collins enacting new legislation to stop cyber bullying!
                Our limelight stealing leader has under mined her initiative maybe as the polls show Teflon tongued Pm sliding down we might have a leadership challenge!

    • Bob 2.2

      I am in the UK at the moment, and the general consensus from people I have spoken to here (even from my far left boss) is that he sounds like a down to earth Prime Minister and they have asked if we would swap!

      Nowhere near as PC over here, and with the exception of the low life media (that everyone over here takes with a grain of salt after the Leveson Inquiry, and the alleged BBC cover-up of Jimmy Saville), I haven’t heard a bad word said.

      So don’t worry about us EiE, if anything its raised the way Kiwi’s are viewed in UK life.

    • Richard McGrath 2.3

      Breaking News: Words can have more than one meaning.

      ‘Gay’ has had an alternative meaning other than ‘homosexual’ for several years, I first heard it used to mean ‘weird’ or generally negative in 2004. You guys should get out more.

      Oh, and rumour has it at one time the word ‘gay’ also meant happy/carefree.

      • McFlock 2.3.1

        Yeah. Funny how the word “gay” became “generally negative” after it entered widespread use to describe a particular sexual orientation.

        Oh wait, that’s the entire fucking point right there.

        • Colonial Viper 2.3.1.1

          Oh, and rumour has it at one time the word ‘gay’ also meant happy/carefree.

          That’s it. Perhaps the PM was using the 1920’s Gilded Age definition, after all, that’s where he’s trying to take the elite back to.

        • Bob 2.3.1.2

          Thanks for the history lesson McFlock, since you are so clued up on these things, can you please tell me an appropriate single word I can use for a ‘bundle of wooden sticks’? When did this change from ‘faggot’? Can I still use ‘faggot’? So hard to keep up with such a fast changing world where words just have their meanings changed without any sort of media release!

          • McFlock 2.3.1.2.1

            Bob, if you need a set of instructions on when to use particular words, you’re as emotionally clueless as our prime minister.
                   
            Given that the term “faggot” to denote a bundle of sticks is largely archaic, I’d still have the suspicion  that you were being passive-aggressively homophobic even if you used it in that inoffensive sense. It all depends on the inflection. 
                     
            The fact that some people claim to be so abjectly incapable of grasping the basics of social intercourse is … terrific (note that I acquiesce to your illogical insistence that archaic definitions must be regarded as still being in common usage).

            • Bob 2.3.1.2.1.1

              Okay, how about this one, if the PM came back from Amsterdam and talked about being in awe of the massive Dykes they have over there.
              All ‘modern’ words used in context, is he allowed to say that?

              • lprent

                Spelt dikes I believe.

                • Bob

                  Not according to this http://grammarist.com/spelling/dike-dyke/ unless you are from the US or Canada? There is even a NZ example on there for you (even though it is from the NZ Herald, so doesn’t overly help my argument).

                  • lprent

                    Always seen it spelt “dike” and that was entirely from within NZ. I have run across its usage as dyke, but main pre-20th century English material, and that was mostly about the fens. So figured it to be a regional usage for somewhere around East Anglia.

                    But I care not either way. Just spell things so that others can understand what I’m saying.

                    • Bob

                      TBH I was unsure of the spelling as well as it seems to be acceptable both ways, however, the pronounciation remains the same which was my point, if you take words out of context they can be seen as bigoted and homophobic if you want them to be. Taken in context though, they can have completely different meanings, which is where the defence of John Key’s statement comes in.
                      Words (even ones relating to homosexuality) can have multiple meetings, take the context of the entire sentence, don’t just single out one word and build an arguement on that (not you in particular lprent, more aimed at James Henderson and others that have singled out one word in a sentence).

                    • lprent

                      Problem with John Key is that he increasingly has a Paul Henry affliction. Plausible deniality only works if it doesn’t look like if it is deliberate, and repeatably having “mistakes” of the same style just spells deliberate.

                      In his case he says one thing in “private” then denies it or calls the cops if it goes public. His actual “sin” is to be thoroughly cynically hypocritical with lousy mixed messaging. These days, each instance is highlighted by many because we have seen the same lying pattern repeatably. In fact you can damn near make a rulebook about how his minders will tell him how to handle each instance.

                      He has simply over used up his credibility and is heading towards becoming political toast

              • Te Reo Putake

                If he was talking about dikes (note the spelling, fool), no problem. But if he was being as homophobic and illiterate as you, then yeah, probably a problem. But luckily, our PM is not a dull witted bigot … oh, wait …

              • mike e

                bob your a dufus

                • Bob

                  mike e, it’s “you’re” not “your”, don’t worry though, I understand what you meant, and won’t take it out of context like some people have about John Key’s comment.

              • McFlock

                Bob, 
                       
                If he said a DJ’s shirt made them look like a dyke, can you see why people might take offense? 

  3. Red Rosa 3

    http://www.independent.ie/video/video-world-news/no-apology-from-new-zealand-pm-over-beckham-is-thick-jibe-3284809.html

    Beckham comments hit the headlines in Ireland too. The above probably old news now, but well put together by ITN, once you get past the charming colleen in the ad…;)

    This really is a cringeworthy disply from Key…our PM for gawd’s sake….

  4. shorts 4

    He’s a shallow “suit”…. therefore when was he ever in touch?

  5. Lanthanide 5

    Posted on the other thread but fits this one a little better:
    I wonder if Key is actually from another century and meant to say “queer red shirt” but was trying to be street so used the modern term “gay”.

    • bbfloyd 5.1

      That’s taking apologism to new, and extreme levels…..

      • Lanthanide 5.1.1

        :roll:

      • PlanetOrphan 5.1.2

        True, u can’t defend his use of the word full stop,
        to even try and crawl into his mind says something you do not want too hear Lanthanide57

        • gobsmacked 5.1.2.1

          @Floyd/Orphan

          I think your irony detector needs new batteries ;)

          Or in simple terms: Lanth isn’t saying what you seem to think.

          • PlanetOrphan 5.1.2.1.1

            How many people are gonna try being “street” with all these comments ?

            Let alone a gay person who’s coping shit at the moment coz everyones no longer “PC” ?

            We understand what yas where saying and protesting your lack of thought.

          • bbfloyd 5.1.2.1.2

            Assumption is the mother of all F**k ups, my gnarled old grandfather used to say….Take a leap of faith gobbed one… maybe the joke will manifest itself to you too!!

  6. Matthew 6

    As Minister of Tourism, Key is doing a wonderful job of encouraging people to visit Australia.

    • bbfloyd 6.1

      To be fair though…. He may be cleverer than all of us…. there are large groups around the world that owe their existance to homophobia, xenophobia, and fear of the unknown in general….

      We could be getting lined up to become “mecca’ for those downtrodden soldiers of “gods true order”…

  7. Colonial Viper 7

    Seriously though lets get back on the game here, ie sort out an independent, well financed, powerful Mines Inspectorate AND make sure the Govt implements MMP changes as they have been recommended with none of their usual BS.

  8. King Kong 8

    As much as it was probably not the best choice of words for a Prime Minister I would bet that amongst those jumping up and down in outrage, not a single one of you was actually offended.

    All this kind of thing does is remind us why we kicked your lot out in 2008…because you are humourless, politically correct, lightbulb stealing, shower de-powering, criminal cuddling, nanny state nob heads.

    • Lightly 8.1

      What’s humourous and PC got to do with Key calling Beckham thick as batshit and using gay as an insult?

      • TightyRighty 8.1.1

        When was the last time a gay person, who didn’t use their sexuality to define everything about themselves actually get concerned by the use of gay as a derogatory term? my friends are far more concerned when people use terms like homo and faggot or the awful queer cunt. The majority of gay people, those who aren’t victims are relatively unconcerned about how it’s use has changed in mainstream culture. The same ones who understand that it originally adapted from another meaning and now see the irony in a words meaning having gone full 180.

        But keep being victims, completely forget the tale of the boy who cried wolf.

        • framu 8.1.1.1

          yeah i know plenty of gay folk you use the term pretty much to describe things they think are lame – but with full knowledge of what it might mean to others (which is the important bit), they alter their language based on present company

          Though that doesnt change the fact that there is a difference between pub talk and public talk. And key (as the PM) is expected to know the difference – unless we expect him to be some third rate comedian that even TVNZ wouldnt put on air.

          hands up who lets a swear word or two out when round the BBQ – now, hands up who also says F**k down the phone to their mum? (ok theres probably some – but you get the picture)

          ————————————————————————————–

          ” those who aren’t victims are relatively unconcerned about how it’s use”

          isnt that the point of why its not good for the PM to go round calling people thick as bat shit and describing things as gay?

        • mike e 8.1.1.2

          Tighty almighty your out of touch like your leader (trying to be cool with young ones )
          Its a highly derogatory insult.
          I have 2 teenagers at home. Your experience is money in the bank!

    • Lanthanide 8.2

      Actually I’m offended. So there you go.

      • insider 8.2.1

        Is that on behalf of all nobheads? ;-)

      • alwyn 8.2.2

        I formerly worked with a chap whose surname was Gay.
        He said that he was not offended by what anyone got up to but he was very offended that they had, in his words, “stolen” his name.
        Should all homosexual males stop using the term “Gay” because he was upset?

        • crashcart 8.2.2.1

          My Grandfather Richard was always refered to as Dic. should he be offended when I refer to you as one?

          • alwyn 8.2.2.1.1

            Not in the slightest. I suppose I can consider myself privileged to share a name with your grandfather.
            My God! Perhaps I am your Grandfather. Is he still alive?

        • gobsmacked 8.2.2.2

          Words previously “stolen” …

          queer, faggot, fag, fairy, pansy … and many more.

          All these words had other meanings, BEFORE they became terms of abuse. See any good dictionary.

          Did the defenders of our language speak out against the “stealing” of those words? Did they stand alongside the victims of bigotry and (often) violence?

          If so, respect. If not, hypocrites.

        • Uturn 8.2.2.3

          No because he was in possession of the power to protect himself. He could change his name, for instance. Gays can’t chose not to be gay or chose when or where they might experience discrimination. If a person can escape or neutralise the discrimination they meet, without disadvantaging themselves, an insult is not going to cause the same level of damage as someone who has just been called a random name.

          • insider 8.2.2.3.1

            Uh oh that’s a lightening rod. Expect the fundies and catholics to turn up soon

            • Uturn 8.2.2.3.1.1

              Yeah I’ve heard about that. The problem is that their argument immediately fails the “good faith” module of Discussion 101.

        • framu 8.2.2.4

          well all those happy jolly ye-olde people can line right up and accuse him of stealing their word by that logic

    • crashcart 8.3

      Labor is Nanny State? Don’t remember them telling young people on a beneift how they were allowed to spend it. Don’t remember them decreeing that beneficiary children have to go to ECE.

      Really your only things that you can try and link to them being Nanny State (lightbulbs and shower heads) never actually happened did they. Oh sure there was a paper that said it would be a good idea but it was never policy. National have had some insane right wing papers come out during their time. Of course that doesn’t matter when you swollowed the PR line so whole heartedly does it KK. Why think for yourself when you can have a PR firm and the media do it for you.

      • ianmac 8.3.1

        The origin of the lightbulbs and shower was an Energy Committee asked to identify ways that people could save energy. Nothing to do with Labour Policy.
        That unfortunate un-funny RADAR chap did an ad for National on TV which had him revelling in a 4 X headed shower.

        • Jim Nald 8.3.1.1

          How about if blame is to be poured on the poor handling of shower heads,
          blame the man whose hands used the taxpayers’ credit card to which he charged his porn?

    • Karen 8.4

      KK I bet if it was Helen Clark who made those comments instead of this clown currently masquerading as a PM you wouldn’t be so tolerant.

      • King Kong 8.4.1

        Quite honestly I think she would have gone up in my estimation. Would have been nice to see her not being a sour faced old cow and having a laugh.

        • Colonial Viper 8.4.1.1

          Because KK prefers clowns to lead the country

          • mike e 8.4.1.1.1

            Maybe KK likes defending his fellow Circus performers.
            I have a feeling he defends the rights point of view at all costs because the left would shut down his circus over animal welfare issues ,that’s why he is so angry being stuck in a cage all day and having to perform in front of a crowd that just throw peanuts at him,That would make him bored as Batshit!
            We understand KK.

        • Hanswurst 8.4.1.2

          The thing is that Helen Clark was really, honestly a lot wittier and funnier than Key, whose “humour” consists almost entirely of regurgitating standard blokish phrases. She just didn’t see the dissemination of humorous vibes as being her role when she was appearing publicly as Prime Minister.

          • felix 8.4.1.2.1

            Listen to Key talk about his public appearances; it’s very clear that he sees himself primarily as an entertainer.

            We really do have David Brent for a PM.

            • Hanswurst 8.4.1.2.1.1

              Well, yes, it’s absolutely plain that Mr. Key sees himself as an entertainer. There is, however, often a fine line between being an entertainer and being a dick. Unfortunately, Key isn’t anywhere near that line – he’s just an out-and-out dick.

    • mike e 8.5

      primitive primate Getting a bit flustered their.
      Energy use reduction brings down power prices! A very bright idea !
      Reducing water usage with modern shower heads brings down rates something the right harps on about endlessly!(most of Europe the US and Aussie already do so!)
      Criminal cuddling National have instituted left wing policy on re offending rates rather than lockem up and throw away the key approach they campaigned on smart move from the right very unusual but successful maybe the right should try a few more left wing policies!
      Nanny state Under national more people on the benefit!
      Consultants that National are hiring are costing more than what the public servants they are sacking!

    • QoT 8.6

      not a single one of you was actually offended.

      We’re not offended, we’re contemptuous.

    • Fisiani 8.7

      You only missed out “without the good looking women”. otherwise very accurate.

  9. PlanetOrphan 9

    Can’t wait for the next KKK meeting to be reported on then ….
    I wonder what terms he’ll use there to engender friendship and love of PlanetKey ….

    Anyone defending that F’wit ever thought about “Lead By Example” fallout that he’s caused ?

    You are a bunch of ignorant tosers ….

  10. vto 10

    what was john key trying to achieve by calling Beckham thick as batshit?

  11. gobsmacked 11

    None of this is new from Key.

    “Indian giver” … Maori cannibal jokes … pandering to Paul Henry … etc.

    He hasn’t changed, he’s just no longer getting an indulgent smile and pat on the head from the media.

    (And BTW … it’s not about some tedious “leftie” versus “rightie” hack-fight. I can think of many conservatives with views on economic policy that I loathe. But they don’t all act like 10 year olds).

    • Jim Nald 11.1

      This is on to something.
      Brings to mind the kind of language heard at National Party conferences and also being around Nat MPs and their kind during board meeting tea breaks, Koru Club lounges and such like.

  12. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12

    Someone is certainly out of touch.

    Preferred PM

    Key 65.6% (+2.1%)
    Shearer 12.9% (-1.3%)

    Source: Herald Digipoll September 2012.

    • Colonial Viper 12.1

      Ahhh on to phase II is it? Key is so popular he can do no wrong?

      • gobsmacked 12.1.1

        I think Gormless is saying that Key has lost 20% in the past month.

        • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1.1

          I am simply saying that the one thing no-one can accuse Key of is being out of touch. He has personally resonated with the public in a way that no other New Zealand politician in my lifetime has.

          • Colonial Viper 12.1.1.1.1

            And now he’s trying to resonate with teenage school girls

          • mike e 12.1.1.1.2

            Gormless Maybe you should change your name to rumplstiltskin

          • lprent 12.1.1.1.3

            …in a way that no other New Zealand politician in my lifetime…

            There is a problem with being young and without an ability to either listen to read history nor to the voice of experience.

            Basically John Key is a mediocre politician because he is both lazy and sloppy. You can get away with charm (a job requirement for politicians) and with these lousy traits for a term as PM. But then everything starts falling in because someone mediocre as a politician will be incompetent at running the ministers in the government. Which is precisely what has happened with John Key and for that matter with David Lange.

            All I can say is that you don’t observe the past much. In another few years you’ll have most people denying that they ever voted for the useless parasite. IMO the only thing that is preventing that from happening right now in the general population is that the public can’t see anything better on offer at this point in time. But the bad thing about that is that means that Winston will start rising again….

            • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1.1.3.1

              There is a problem with being young…

              Why, thank you.

              Basically John Key is a mediocre politician…

              Maybe, but the question at hand is not whether he is a good politician, but whether he is out of touch. And clearly, people love him. Not all, people, obviously. But 65.6% is a pretty good number.

  13. Hami Shearlie 13

    Considering that David Beckham was at the Royal Wedding because he is Prince William’s FRIEND, and not just a head of state like Jonkey, I would imagine that this comment didn’t go down too well with the Prince. Darn! Jonkey, you should have thought of that before you opened the big trap. We know what a little toady to royalty you are!! I wonder if Prince William will be so friendly to our “Prime Mincer” next time he visits? And I also wonder if Prince William will be wasting 45 minutes of HIS valuable time on Jonkey’s ungrateful little wretch of a son!! Key is ill-mannered and has passed this trait on to his son!! So much for the teachings of Kings College too!!!

  14. Roy 14

    John Key’s style appeals to the sort of people who make up Paul Henry’s fanbase. ‘Nuff said.

    • Bob 14.1

      You are on to something here Roy, look at how far the Breakfast ratings fell when Paul Henry left! The average NZer loves someone that speaks their mind, and as much as it has obviously caused a great amount of faux outrage here (can’t find any of these people condeming Hone Harawira for his ‘House Nigger’ jibe!) the average Joe on the street doesn’t mind, just look at the Stuff poll! http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/

      • Roy 14.1.1

        We don’t have to, and should not, cater for the lowest common (very common, in fact) denominator.

  15. Blue 15

    Gotta admire the right wing attempts to excuse Johnny Sparkles over his foot-in-mouth disease.

    Saying that everyone ‘knows’ Becks is thick is pathetic – whether he is or not, John Key shouldn’t have said it. It was buying himself headlines he didn’t need.

    And if the UK wasn’t offended, it wouldn’t have been on the front page of the Sun. They don’t just put a story on the front page for shits and giggles, it’s the country’s biggest tabloid and the stories have to provoke a reaction in the public to sell.

    The righties cheerfully defend the use of the word ‘gay’ meaning ‘weird’ being completely okay and totally not offensive to gay people. A country’s Prime Minister using language that stigmatises gay people as weird is okay because teenagers do it all the time.

    Then the ‘well, at least he has a sense of humour’ cries – as if any of Johnny’s jokes are actually funny to anyone except the National MPs who have to laugh at them. I don’t think I’ve heard a single decent joke from him in the entire four years that he’s been PM.

    And then the good old ‘he’s so popular it doesn’t matter’ defence. As if being more popular than David Shearer is some sort of impressive achievement. Shit, if he was losing that race then he’d definitely be in trouble.

    Still, I can understand their anxiety. Johnny’s string of screwups is the signature of a man under pressure. If he cracks, the right will be choosing between Joyce and Collins, and that’s enough to make any Nat loyalist sweat.

    • gobsmacked 15.1

      “I don’t think I’ve heard a single decent joke from him in the entire four years that he’s been PM.”

      Too true. It’s like the BBQ bores …

      My response: roll eyes.

      “Oh, haven’t you get a sense of humour?”

      “Yes, I watch John Stewart, he makes me laugh.”

      “Who?”

      The special self-delusion of the dull, derivative and unfunny to believe that if it goes over their heads, it’s not funny. Because they are the sole arbiters of humour.

    • “I don’t think I’ve heard a single decent joke from him in the entire four years that he’s been PM.”

      Can’t remember the first part of this joke, but the punch line was something like “towards a brighter future” ?
      Then there are the other 2 jokes, again forget the first part but the punch lines.
      “less unemployment and less immigration to Australia”

  16. Chalupa Batman 16

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5781365/Upset-over-Mallard-comment

    Ah well at least no one from the left would use insulting terms about someones sexuality…

    • gobsmacked 16.1

      1) Mallard is not on the left
      2) Read the first sentence … “says he shouldn’t have”. Then link to Key saying the same.

      Next …

      • Chalupa Batman 16.1.1

        3. But he wouldn’t apologise. “It was part of a series of two way offensive comments and I got quite a lot more than I received.”

        To be honest I don’t think the comments made by Mallard and Key are that bad but I just like pointing out that the left is as bad as the right

        • gobsmacked 16.1.1.1

          But it isn’t.

          You’ll be disappointed if you’re hoping the Left will all rush to defend Mallard. I think he’s an idiot.

          Bigotry – or more often, pandering to it – is a core characterisitic of the reactionary right. Too often some on the left try and appease, but they are wrong … and usually not at all left, like a Tamihere.

          • Chalupa Batman 16.1.1.1.1

            Well to be fair I’ve thought that Labour would do better without Mallard (I mean its not like Labour would lose his seat)

            What do you think of the changing of words meaning

            ie Gay used to mean one thing then got changed to another meaning then it got reclaimed and now gay means something completely different

            • framu 16.1.1.1.1.1

              “ie Gay used to mean one thing then got changed to another meaning then it got reclaimed and now gay means something completely different”

              depends on your age though doesnt it – what do you think the word gay means to people of Keys generation?

              Im pretty sure it doesnt mean jolly or lame

            • mike e 16.1.1.1.1.2

              God you talk aload of batshit chalupi

  17. giovani 17

    Remember this. I think he was acting GAY.

    12:00 Mon Feb 7 2011MSN NZ

    Prime Minister John Key has said he was “a bit stupid” to mince down the catwalk modelling the Rugby World Cup volunteers’ uniforms last week.
    Key parodied a model by shaking his hips and flicking his head while strutting down the catwalk.

    He told TV One’s Breakfast show it was a mistake to camp it up.

    “I responded to the crowd last week, I was having a bit of fun, but I shouldn’t have done that. In my view, that was probably a bit stupid,” he said.

    “But unfortunately I get put in a gazillion situations like that… My life is out there engaging with people at a million different events and where ever I go people will start throwing balls around, doing things whatever it is.”

    Key said it was important to balance conveying his serious messages to people with interacting with them, NZPA reports.

    The PM has also come under fire in recent weeks from international media for calling British actress Liz Hurley “hot”.

    UK tabloids labelled the remarks sexist, but Key maintains his claims were not offensive.

  18. deemac 18

    as a Brit I remember when Tony Blair was the most popular politician ever and could do no wrong. Anyone who crticised was told “look how popular he is!” It took ten years for people to see through him sadly, but by then he was toxic. Key is a poor copy of Blair, with the smooth veneer of a snake oil salesman, but sooner or later the voters wise up.
    BTW David Beckham is extremely popular in the UK, particularly with minorities interestingly, despite not being renowned for his intellect. And no country takes kindly to outsiders criticising one of their own. It was rude, stupid and unnecessary – conduct unbecoming a leader.

  19. Reagan Cline 19

    His comment about the gay shirt is “not what you would say” about a shirt according to the 17 year old girl I asked today. Key’s minders should have a quiet word. Old guys who play at being youthful end up looking ridiculous. He should take a break, think STATESMAN and get rid of the toupe.

  20. Richard 20

    Personally I find John Key a bit weird. Does that mean I can say hes is gay?

    Oh, and the Beckham thing – can’t disagree with the opinion, but to say that to schoolgirls is at best tryhard, but also a bit creepy / pervy.

  21. Appleby 21

    This is just another sign that key has lost all interest. He is slipping and showing his real side. One normally tailors ones language to different settings, like at home versus the pub versus the office. This just reflects that key is getting careless and no longer aware or trying to hide his true self. This sort of comment shows him to be a real creep and indeed a borat of the south pacific.

  22. Oh dear, I think that Bomber has it spot on:

    “There are two explanations here. The first is that our PM is a dickhead who shoots his mouth off with all the willful ignorance of Michael Laws at a feminist conference or that it’s a very deliberate tactic to have Key make comments that resonate with his target bloke voter while generating enough liberal outrage to magnetize those voters towards him…..smells like Crosby-Textor ~Bomber Bradbury “

    link to his Tumeke! article

    Apologies I haven’t read all the comments in this thread and perhaps others have said or linked to the same.

    • Colonial Viper 22.1

      Key hasn’t counted on the fact that the effective half life of his little tricks is diminishing month by month.

      • blue leopard 22.1.1

        I hope so. Those PR boys know their stuff though-professional manipulators-and we do have some really bigoted attitudes that are ripe for manipulating…
        I sure hope people are tiring of it. I sure am :(

    • Saarbo 22.2

      Key is a prize wanker and his supporters probably fit that category as well. I have just noted a Stuff survey which shows 8500 votes supporting Key’s comments versus 8000 votes saying “They’re not things a PM should say”. Key is very possibly doing this on purpose as Bomber suggested.

      How can anyone support these morally repugnant arseholes. Then to add salt to the wound he states by way of apology that “Beckham is smart, he has made more money than me”…I need to throw up. 

      • blue leopard 22.2.1

        I think it is advice re Crosby-Textor PR guys. It just makes a whole lot of sense. They will be aiming at the swathe of NZers who approve of this way of talking and these attitudes. Lets face it Key isn’t clever enough to get this level of support; an American (I think) company who is dedicated to working out how to manipulate people’s attitudes and emotions for a specific self-interested aim is… Key should simply be viewed as a Crosby-Textor impersonating puppet.

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    Skeptical Science | 20-09
  • Election 2014!! The live, rolling, increasingly intoxicated Post From Hell
    7pm - Drinking red (naturally) wine.  A 2011 Mt hector Pinot Noir.  Very nice it is too - likely the last nice thing I may experience for the next couple of hours.  We're doomed, I tell you, doomed!  And if we're...
    Left hand palm | 20-09
  • Speaker: A live peek at your cray
    On Saturday morning London time, a rag-tag bunch of left-wing weirdos will descend on my flat to huddle around the glow of livestreams, making panic pikelets and schadenfreude pie, and wishing it was evening here so we could justify sinking...
    Public Address | 20-09
  • Election Day Post # 10
    The last of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Election Day Post #9
    The ninth of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • The Big Man
    So, Alex Salmond has announced he will step down as First Minister of Scotland.  This is, of course, being presented as throwing his toys and peevish behaviour following the independence referendum and the defeat of the 'Yes' campaign.Which is an...
    Left hand palm | 20-09
  • Election Day Post #8
    The eighth of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Voting turnout affected by bad weather?
    . . NZ, Upper Hutt, 20 September –  Cold, wet weather in the Hutt Valley, north of Wellington may be impacting on voter turn-out. A head-count of people visiting the Trentham School Voting Station in Moonshine Rd, Upper Hutt, indicated...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-09
  • Voting turnout affected by bad weather?
    . . NZ, Upper Hutt, 20 September –  Cold, wet weather in the Hutt Valley, north of Wellington may be impacting on voter turn-out. A head-count of people visiting the Trentham School Voting Station in Moonshine Rd, Upper Hutt, indicated...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-09
  • Election Day Post #7
    The seventh of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Election Day Post #6
    The sixth of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Another Song For Election Day (As Requested By “Kat”)
     NOT DARK YET: Bob Dylan's haunting hymn to the failing day and advancing night.   I was born here and I'll die here against my will I know it looks like I'm movin' but I'm standin' still Every nerve in my body...
    Bowalley Road | 20-09
  • Man Steals Nun’s Blue and White Livery, Says Newspaper Made Him Do It
    Tapping into the Party Line: A prominent talkback radio listener detected a subtle right-wing tone at work in The New Zealand Herald‘s advertising.    By Hemi Iti, 20 September 2014 An Auckland man was charged with theft and impersonating a...
    Snoopman News | 20-09
  • Election Day Post #5
    The fifth of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Looking through dirty windows into an empty room
    A colleague of mine once described how he'd felt when interviewing a particularly nasty person who'd been engaged in some very unpleasant behaviour at work. He said that looking into the man's eyes was like, 'looking through dirty windows into an empty...
    Te Whare Whero | 19-09
  • Hard News: Decision 2014: Where to watch and listen
    There were quite a few queries on the wires last night as to where a person who can't receive New Zealand broadcasts might stay abreast of today's election results. Short version: you're spoiled for choice. As I understand it, none...
    Public Address | 19-09
  • Election Day Post #4
    The fourth of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 19-09
  • Hold fast to your Mana – Harawira
    Hone Harawira today called on the voters of Tai Tokerau to hold fast to their mana, and not be dictated to by those party leaders who have ganged together to tell them how to vote. “I call on our people...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Media Advisory – Interview availability
    This is to advise all media that Hone Harawira will be available in Auckland tomorrow, Friday the 19th of September from 7am to 4pm for interviews relating to his recent press releases. If you are interested in interviewing Mr Harawira on...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Labour stands on proud record on Suffrage Day
    Women have come a long way in the 121 years since New Zealand became the first country to give them the vote on September 19 1893, but there is still more to do, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Carol Beaumont says....
    Labour | 18-09
  • Polling Booths asked to treat Maori voters with respect
    “Polling booths without Maori roll voting papers, Maori people not being offered assistance to vote, people getting sent from Whangarei to Wellsford to vote, Maori people getting turned away from voting because they didn’t have their ‘easy vote’ card, Maori...
    Mana | 17-09
  • Aussie Liberals embroiled in Key campaign
    John Key needs to explain why Australia’s Liberal Party is interfering in New Zealand domestic politics and is encouraging Kiwi voters across the ditch to vote for National just days out from the election, Labour’s campaign spokesperson Annette King says....
    Labour | 17-09
  • The MANA Plan for Beneficiaries and Income in Waiariki
    Median Personal Income for Waiariki is $21,700. Over 13,000 Maori who live in Waiariki rely upon a form of government benefit including the Unemployment Benefit, Sickness Benefit, Domestic Purpose Benefit and the Invalids Benefit. “If you’re lucky enough to have...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Māori development crucial to New Zealand’s future
    Labour recognises the concern of Māori about child poverty and the rising costs of living, and in Government will make a real difference to the wellbeing of whānau and iwi, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “As our Māori...
    Labour | 16-09
  • MAORI PARTY – DON’T COMPLAIN … WALK
    “If the Maori Party are serious about stopping government spying on NZ citizens then they should tell the Prime Minister to either stop doing it or they will walk away” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira, on...
    Mana | 16-09
  • JOHN KEY SUPPORTING LABOUR
    “There is something really sick about a National Party Prime Minister coming out in support of a Labour candidate” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira, after hearing that John Key is urging voters to back Labour in...
    Mana | 16-09
  • SHUT DOWN THIS GOVT NOT KAITI WINZ – Nikora
    “I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can” is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti  said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
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    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Predators on Poverty – Harawira
    “As poverty has ballooned out of control, the Predators on Poverty have emerged to suck the lifeblood from whole families and communities” said MANA Movement leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira. “They are deliberately targeting low-income areas, particularly those...
    Mana | 11-09
  • MANA Movement Policy Launch
    Predators on Poverty (pokie machines, alcohol outlets and loan sharks) 1pm, Thursday 11th September Corner Great South Road and Criterion Street Otahuhu Shopping Centre...
    Mana | 10-09
  • Eliminating Poverty – Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate, Otara | Internet MAN...
    A campaign to Eliminate Poverty, Feed the Kids, build more houses, and create thousands of new jobs, was outlined by Internet MANA at a public meeting in Otara this evening. When MANA and the Internet Party first sat down to...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Housing in Waiariki – Sykes
    Fact:  Under this National-Maori Party-ACT-United Future Government 61% of Maori in Waiariki do not own their own home and nearly 70% of Maori rentals in Waiariki pay $200 or more per week. “Maori in Waiariki have low rates of home ownership...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Charter school crisis shows time to axe costly experiment
    Dysfunction from day one at a Northland charter school shows it is time to dump this costly and failed experiment by the National-ACT Government, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Te Kura Hourua ki Whangaruru received $27,000 in government funding...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Labour will crack down on loan sharks
    A Labour Government will crack down on predatory loan sharks by making it illegal both to charge exorbitant interest rates and to exploit uninformed borrowers, Labour’s Consumer Affairs Spokesperson Carol Beaumont says. Labour today released its Consumer Affairs policy which...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Let’s do the FEED before the weed
    “Last week I put out a very strongly worded email to my colleagues about an online promotion about cannabis law reform” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira “and I stand by that criticism today.” My concern was...
    Mana | 08-09
  • TE KAEA and NATIVE AFFAIRS live to fight another day
    “I understand that both the chair of the Board of Maori Television, Georgina Te Heuheu, and new CEO, Paora Maxwell, are now saying that my comments this morning about their plans to cut Te Kaea and Native Affairs, were wrong, and that...
    Mana | 08-09
  • How come the PM only pays 2.8% of his income in tax – Harawira
    “Before John Key talks about the piddling tax cuts he plans for low and middle income families today he needs to explain why he only pays 2.8% of his income on tax while a minimum wage worker pays 28% tax,”...
    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • A Fiji democratic mandate for the coup leader – what now for the media?
    Attorney-General Sayad-Khaiyum and Rear-Admiral (Ret) Voreqe Bainimarama’s Fiji First party is poised to lead the country in the next four years. Photo: Mads Anneberg, an AUT Pacific Media Centre student on internship in Suva with Repúblika Magazine and Pacific Scoop...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • Why I voted Labour and why 2017 will be different
    As a 3nd and 5th generation Kiwi-Indian (depending on which side of the family we have to go with), my relationship with New Zealand is a special one. Like other New Zealanders who are not of the Caucasian variety, the...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Humble Pie
    Oh. My. God. This was a heartbreaking nightmare. I was wrong, horribly, horribly, horribly wrong. I honestly believed that the resources, the media attention, the vile toxic politics exposed by Dirty Politics and the mass surveillance lies would have seen...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Election 2014; A Post-mortem; a Wake; and one helluva hang-over
    .   . It would be fair to say that the results for Election 2014 did not go as anticipated. The Left has had a drubbing – and some of it was of our own making. In other aspects, there...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Voting turnout affected by bad weather?
    . . NZ, Upper Hutt, 20 September –  Cold, wet weather in the Hutt Valley, north of Wellington may be impacting on voter turn-out. A head-count of people visiting the Trentham School Voting Station in Moonshine Rd, Upper Hutt, indicated...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Final total of advance voting
    And the final total for the advance voting was a staggering 717,579 advance votes against 334,558 in 2011       Tonight, I’ll be watching the TV3 election coverage because I could bare Paul Henry’s smugness one inch more than Mike Hosking’s...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Vice article on NZ election
    Here is my Vice article on the NZ election....
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • The attempt to kill off Internet MANA
    It’s the last day of campaigning today and the long list of those attacking Internet MANA got longer yesterday with Winston Peters backing Labour candidate Kelvin Davis against the MANA Movement’s Hone Harawira. Davis is now supported by Labour, National,...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • A final word on the election – it’s now all up to you
    Brothers & Sisters, the fate of Aotearoa is now all in your hands. We here at the Daily Blog have thrown everything we can at this bloody Government and have spent every waking hour of this campaign trying to highlight...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – ...
    I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – but then again, I never could...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why Nati...
    TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why National Party is great...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • REVIEW: Royals of Kihikihi
    What an absolutely stunning show.  I had to ask twice to check I’d heard right that this is the first staged production for Samuel Christopher, who also played a raw, real, but vulnerable, Wolf Royal, home from London for his...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • 800 Cops to detain 15 ‘terrorists’ – why Australia’s hysterical Isl...
    I’m sorry but I can’t take this current Australian terror threat seriously. 800 cops to detain 15 people and arrest one of them? A week after Abbot decides to send in Australian forces to the cluster fuck of Iraq, suddenly...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Unbelievable corruption inside Government to attack Kim Dotcom
    The corruption inside this Government just more and more filthy – we now have an ex-Customs Lawyer quitting  after being told to bury information that could embarrass the Government, specifically to do with Kim Dotcom… Curtis Gregorash said he was told...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Everyone Loves A Win-Win That Keeps G...
      Permit me to quote some figures at you… -68% of New Zealanders think political news on television focuses too much on politicians’ personalities and not enough on real issues. This is the key result of a recent UMR survey commissioned by...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of being the most in demand broadcaster in the country...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: Te Tai Tokerau independent poll (44% Hone-27% Kelvin) vs Maori T...
    The Te Tai Tokerau Maori TV poll on Monday this week painted a bleak picture for Internet MANA supporters, and it’s results have been seized upon by Labour, NZ First and even the Maori Party (who seem set once again...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The time for TPPA weasel words is over
    Almost every day of the election campaign there has been a policy announcement that would potentially run foul of what I understand is currently in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA):  more constraints on foreign investment or investors … regulation of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • MELTDOWN – Maori Party turns on their own Te Tai Tokerau candidate – ag...
    The tensions are building in Te Tai Tokerau with the Maori Party on the verge of meltdown. Days out from the election, the Maori Party Executive has tried to heavy their own Te Tai Tokerau Electoral Committee and their own candidate, Te Hira Paenga,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • We Can Change this Government
    We Can Change this Government – Mike Treen at the First Union stop work election meeting...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Election 2014: For and Against
    With the general election tomorrow, we have had a very noisy campaign but little sign that the electorate wishes for a fundamental change of governmental direction. This reflects in part the fact that the economic cycle is close to its decadal...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eye To Eye Uploaded: Martyn ‘Bomber’ Bradbury
    This interview was filmed a couple of weeks ago between Willie Jackson and myself, I was a tad off with my prediction of NZ First....
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair – The Players Revealed
      . . – Special investigation by Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules‘ Speculation that the Beehive office of Immigration Minister, Michael Woodhouse, was behind the release of a letter linking Labour leader, David Cunliffe, with controversial Chinese businessman, Donghua Liu, is...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold NZ d...
    It should read ‘never stop spying’. As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold us down the river to the US by allowing the Southern Cross cable to be tapped… The ability for US intelligence agencies...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work
    The final days of the campaign are ticking down and Labour and NZ First are manoeuvring to kill off the Internet MANA Party by both backing Kelvin Davis for Te Tai Tokerau. It’s a risky gambit that they better pray to Christ...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Bill English’s latest insult to beneficiaries – apparently they are lik...
    National’s hatred towards the poor continues unabated as National desperately try to throw raw meat to their reactionary voter base in the hope to inspire enough hate and loathing to win back their redneck voters from the Conservative Party and from...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eminem ain’t happy with John Key
    Eminem ain’t happy with John Key...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Key claims he did not inhale
    Key claims he did not inhale...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Final prediction on election result 2014
    What an election campaign. The character assassination of David Cunliffe kicked things off with the Herald on Sunday falsely claiming $100 00 bottles of wine, $15 000 books and $150 000 in donations  from a donor that turned out to be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Live blog: Bainamarama takes commanding lead in Fiji elections
      Interview with Repúblika editor Ricardo Morris and Pacific Scoop’s Mads Anneberg. PACIFIC SCOOP TEAM By Ricardo Morris, Mads Anneberg, Alistar Kata and Biutoka Kacimaiwai in Suva WHILE the results are provisional at this stage, it is clear today that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 5AA Australia: NZ Elections Two Days To Go! + Edward Snowden + Julian Assan...
    Recorded live on 18/09/14 – Captured Live on Ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/multimedia-investments-ltd 5AA Australia’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning deliver their weekly bulletin: Across The Ditch. This week, they discuss the latest news as New Zealanders go to the polls on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What has Colin Craig done for his Press Secretary to quit 2 days before ele...
    This is VERY strange.  Colin Craig’s Press Secretary Rachel McGregor, has quit 2 days before the election, allegedly telling ZB that Colin Craig was a “very manipulative man”. I’ve met Rachel many times in the past as Colin’s Press Secretary, she is...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” – A brief w...
    “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” said Key in the final leaders debate. Problem of course is that the 250 000 – 285 000 children living in poverty can not afford steak, milk, butter, eggs...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • National’s final bash of beneficiaries before the election
    On cue, whenever National feel threatened, they roll out a little bennie bash just to keep their redneck voter base happy. Nothing like a bit of raw meat policy to keep National voters focused on the evil threat solo parents...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • With All Of This In Mind, I Vote
    This is my last blog before the election and I really just want to speak from the heart. Right now in this country it seems to me that a lot of people consider the “essentials” in life to be simply...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Left has to vote strategically this election
    The dedication, loyalty, and tribalism of party politics means that sometimes the left lets itself down by not voting strategically. We all want our favoured party to get maximum votes, naturally, but the winner-takes-all approach doesn’t always suit multi-party left...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Dear NZ – as you enter the polling booth, stand up for your rights
    The last days before a NZ general election are a busy time as politicians make their pitch and party activists prepare to get out the vote. It is sort of weird watching from the distance of Europe the strangest election...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What is Waihopai, John, if it isn’t a facility for “mass surveillance...
    John Key assured us on RNZ’s Nine to Noon programme yesterday that “In terms of the Fives Eyes data bases… yes New Zealand will contribute some information but not mass wholesale surveillance.” How does this square with the operation of the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Mass Surveillance and the Banality of E...
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    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Election. Down. To. The. Wire
    Funny how last week it was John Key winning by 50%, now it’s neck and neck. I have always believed this election would be down to the wire and it is proving so. The flawed landline opinion polls the mainstream...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 3rd Degree uses Whaleoil for story ideas as if Dirty Politics never happene...
    TV3s 3rd Degrees smear job on Kim Dotcom last night doesn’t bear much repeating. It was pretty pathetic journalism from a team who have brought us some great journalism in the past. It is sad to see 3rd Degree stooping...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Live blog: Bainimarama takes early lead in Fiji’s election
    Pacific Scoop’s Alistar Kata reports from yesterday’s voting. By Alistar Kata of Pacific Scoop in Suva Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama took an early lead in provisional results in the Fiji general election last night. With provisional results from 170 out...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Has The NSA Constructed The Perfect PPP?
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    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • No way – Key admits Snowden is right
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    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Bad luck National
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    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • The incredible changing John Key story on mass spying – why the Moment of...
    While the mainstream media continue to try and make the Moment of Truth about Kim’s last minute decision to prolong his battle against John Key past the election into the Privileges Committee, the reality is that the Moment of Truth...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Themes of the Campaign
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    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Denis Tegg – The NSA slides that prove mass surveillance
    The evidence presented by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden on The Intercept of mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB is undeniable, and can stand on its own. But when you place this fresh evidence in the context of...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland
    The Ukrainian civil war discomforts me. It seems to me the most dangerous political crisis since the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. And it’s because of our unwillingness to examine the issues in a holistic way. We innately prefer to...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man – the relationship intensifies
    John Key’s love affair with the straw man is now a fully-committed relationship. It’s now the first love of his life. Sorry Bronagh. Yesterday I pointed to Key’s constant assurances that there is no mass surveillance of New Zealanders by...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • National-led Government wins mandate for RMA reforms
    An unprecedented increase in support for the third-term National Party, the best electoral performance since 1899, has delivered a clear mandate for reform of the Resource Management Act says Federated Farmers. “Vital reforms to the RMA have...
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • New Zealand says no to Culture of Death
    Right to Life is pleased that the people of New Zealand have rejected a culture of death by refusing to elect a Labour/Green government that supported the decriminalisation of abortion....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Q + A – Steven Joyce
    CORIN Steven Joyce if we could start with how things are going to look now with your support partners. Can you just run us through, National can technically govern alone on what you’ve got at the moment, do you think...
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Q + A – Kelvin Davis
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    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Q + A – David Cunliffe
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    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Grey Power congratulates Key
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    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • EMA congratulates PM John Key and National
    The Employers and Manufacturers Association extend hearty congratulations to the re-election of Prime Minister John Key and National....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Helen Clark Receives Inaugural Women’s Health Rights Award
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    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • National deal with New Zealand First unlikely
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    Scoop politics | 20-09
  • Daily Election Update #12: NZ First to hold balance of power
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    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election Day is Time to Refocus on Policies
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    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • The Kiwi FM Alternative Election Commentary
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    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Beneficiary Bashing unacceptable
    Kay Brereton of the Beneficiary Advocacy Federation of New Zealand says “ the comment made by Bill English yesterday comparing beneficiaries to crack addicts is shocking and incredibly poorly timed.”...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • UN Experience Beneficial
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    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Changing face of NZ should be reflected in newsrooms
    With Fairfax Media’s Journalism Intern search closing on Sunday, Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy is urging aspiring journalists from Maori, Pacific and ethnic communities to apply. The deadline was recently extended to 10pm, Sunday...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • SPCA expresses concern over toxin in waterways
    Ric Odom CEO of Royal NZ SPCA has expressed concern over the toxic poison 1080 entering waterways, but DoC, Council’s and Ministry of Health have colluded to make it legal....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 13-18 September
    Below is iSentia’s final weekly Election Index, covering the period 13-18 September and showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. The methodology used...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Epsom Candidate (Adam Holland) More Liberal Than ACT
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    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Left Coalition Will Save Dolphins
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    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Waihoroi Shortland: Ngāti Hine is not standing alone
    The Chairman of Te Rūnanga a Iwi o Ngāpuhi, Sonny Tau is blowing smoke worthy of a Dotcom rally with claims that Ngati Hine is standing alone in its opposition to Tūhoronuku says the Chairman of Te Rūnanga o Ngati...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Oceania voices on environment loud and strong
    While money and energy continues to be spent on global talks about climate change, Pacific islanders are scrambling to build sea walls out of sticks, stones, shells and coral, to protect their lands and homes from erosion and rising sea...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunket – Tonight
    No MPs tonight --- the campaign will be over at 9 30. Instead we will look back --- and possibly forward on what we have learned and what might happen. Listener Political Columnist Jane Clifton Editor in Chief, NZ Herald,...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election fails to address youth financial wellbeing
    Young people don’t feel included in New Zealand’s financial success and believe inequality is a problem, according to a new survey conducted by Westpac’s Fin-Ed Centre at Massey University....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Winston’s Waffle doesn’t hide the facts
    The Conservative Party is celebrating the ASA's finding announced today that rejected all but one of the complaints raised against its controversial “Conservatives or Peters” pamphlet. “Despite pages of complaints from Peters legal team the only...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ Independent Coalition looking forward to tomorrow
    “Our team is looking forward to tomorrow. It is a real opportunity to reclaim politics for the people,” said NZ Independent Coalition leader Brendan Horan....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Insights Issue 35/2014 – 19 September 2014
    Insights Issue 35/2014 - 19 September 2014 In This Issue • RMA reform the golden unicorn of policy | Jenesa Jeram...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Special voting arrangements made for NIWA crew
    One of the most unusual polling stations for this year’s general election is in the middle of the ocean miles from land. NIWA’s flagship research vessel Tangaroa, has been doubling as a polling booth for crew and scientists at sea....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Tourism operators urged to vote strategically
    Tourism operators should make sure they know their local candidates’ view on tourism and use their vote to support the country’s second largest export industry, says Chris Roberts, Chief Executive, Tourism Industry Association New Zealand (TIA)....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • WGTN: March for free education
    We are students, university staff, and members of the community. Whichever parties form a government after September 20th, we are demanding an end to corporatisation of education....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Evidence of Corruption a National Scandal
    Internet Party leader Laila Harré will take evidence of corruption to international forums if there is not a full Royal Commission to investigate the growing evidence of the systematic use and abuse of democratic institutions and processes for political...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt continues to throw money at charter school experiment
    Official documents reveal the three primary sector charter schools approved last week will cost $2 million to set up as well as divert another $1.5 million of potential taxpayer investment from local state schools next year....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ACT Final Election Rally
    Elections campaigns are an opportunity for political parties to put candidates and policy to enable voters to choose what sort of New Zealand we want. In this campaign there have been three tests by which you can assess the electoral...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Taxpayers on Hook Again for Solid Energy
    Responding to the Fairfax article that taxpayers are extending another $103 million to keep Solid Energy afloat, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Invermay Petition Tops 10,000 Signatures
    People across New Zealand continue to express their disgust at the downgrading of Invermay, says Dunedin North MP David Clark, as the Save Invermay petition he instigated earlier this year topped the 10,000 signature mark just days before the 2014...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar vows to continue fight for police
    Garth McVicar stated at a public meeting last week that he would fight to retain a 24/7 Police Station in Napier and no reduction in the number of police staff for the Hawkes Bay region, some said he was simply...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Party Vote Our Weapon in Fight Against Government Corruption
    Internet MANA urges New Zealanders to use their party vote to confront corruption in any new government....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Election day is tomorrow – make sure you’re a part of it!
    Tomorrow, Saturday 20 September, is election day, and New Zealanders’ last chance to have a say on who leads the country for the next three years....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Is the Shape of our Government out of the hands of Voters?
    In the last stuff.co.nz / Ipsos Political Poll before Saturdays election, National is down 5.1% to 47.7% and Labour up 3.7% to 26.15%. These results are remarkably similar to the 2011 election where National received 47.3% of the vote and...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Spirit of Suffrage a Call to Action for All Kiwi Women
    Internet MANA is drawing on the courage and integrity of New Zealand women on Suffrage Day – Friday, September, 19 – to encourage them to pay tribute to the spirit of their foremothers who gained women the vote....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Live Election Night Coverage on TV And Online
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    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Judge’s Decision Disappoints Fish & Game
    Today’s decision to give a Temuka man 100 hours of community service for selling sports fish to the public has disappointed Fish & Game, which believes the sentence handed down was “too lenient and will not go far enough to...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Cutting-Edge Graphics Fire up TV3’s Election Night Coverage
    TV3’s Election Night coverage, hosted by John Campbell, will be enhanced by cutting-edge graphics that will showcase the night’s results....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt rushes to open charter schools in New Year
    The government’s decision to approve four new charter schools last week to open in January next year goes against the Minister of Education’s own advice that the schools ought to have at least a year’s preparation time....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • 7 Days And Jono And Ben at Ten Hijack Election Weekend
    The 7 Days and Jono and Ben at Ten (JABAT) comedians are running their own version of election coverage, with a schedule of entertainment and comedy across TV3, Kiwi FM, the web and social media this Friday and Saturday under...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Fewer Prisoners Equals Less Crime
    In its latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and other Crazy Stuff’,’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html , Rethinking Crime and Punishment urges government to rethink its approach to releasing prisoners. “The public expectation is that the excellent reductions in the crime...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar slams his political opponents
    I want a safe and prosperous society and that can only be achieved if we have strong and vi-brant families – McVicar...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Falling economic growth – wage rises overdue
    “The lower GDP growth in the three months to June is further evidence that growth has peaked. New Zealand’s economy is on the way down to mediocre growth rates,” says CTU economist Bill Rosenberg. “Yet wage rises are still weak...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Get Out and Vote campaign a success
    Tens of thousands of workers from all around New Zealand have embraced the Get Out and Vote campaign and have created their own personalised voting plan, the CTU said today. “With three days of voting left in the 2014 General...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Animal Research Failing – So Do More Animal Research?
    Victoria University of Wellington is about to host a lecture on why the success rates of pharmaceutical development is so low and what can be done about it. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) welcomes discussion on this important...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ALCP welcomes Prime Minister’s cannabis comments
    Mr Abbott's comments came on the same day as New South Wales and Victoria states announced they would be doing clinical trials of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
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