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Unbecoming & out of touch

Written By: - Date published: 12:17 pm, November 6th, 2012 - 171 comments
Categories: Minister for International Embarrassment - Tags:

I just wonder in what world John Key thinks that it’s OK for the PM to go around slagging off and insulting people in public. Planet Key, perhaps. Why does he think it’s OK for him to call a visitor to our country ‘”thick as batshit”? Why does he think that it’s not homophobic to use “gay” as an insult (and that it’s OK to attack people just for wearing red)? And does he think it’s not hurtful when he says “gay” is a synonym for “weird”?

Is he just that out of touch?

171 comments on “Unbecoming & out of touch”

  1. vto 1

    Key is out of touch. But that is hardly surprising – he worked for merchant banks and then went into parliament. Where would he ever have been exposed to planet earth?

    As for his comments re Beckham and gay shirts – exposes his shallow nature and understanding of the world. Also exposes his nasty side. I have always maintained that people are better judged by their nasty side rather than their pleasant side. Most everyone has an ok pleasant side but it is those with the heavy nasty side that are the dangers and the true haters that one needs to be wary of …

  2. Enough is Enough 2

    His ‘gay’ comment is nothing short of hate speech which has no place in our society.

    He is so out of touch and has once again committed a crime by inciting and encouraging more hatred by his loyal supporters.

    The poor kiwi’s in London at the moment. They must be copping incredible grief from the English as a result of being associated with this homophobic hater who has also damaged this nations relationship with the UK.

    • insider 2.1

      It’s such a long way short of hate speech I really wonder how you could lose so much perspective. You may as well indict most 9-14 year old school boys too.

      Do you really think it will come to any surprise to a Brit that DB might not be considered the brightest? You don’t know much about their culture. A Posh and Becks joke just won best one liner at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival

      “You know who really gives kids a bad name? Posh and Becks.” (the next line is ‘or thick and thin as I call them’)

      • Colonial Viper 2.1.1

        insider your standards are so low, its no wonder you think the NZ Prime Minister can speak in this way to teenage girls, about notable foreign nationals.

        • vto 2.1.1.1

          CV, insider is clearly one of John Key’s kind. They will no doubt vote for each other.

          Unfortunately they cannot seem to see that getting humour at the expense of others is boorish, boring, rude and not even funny – except to people who are boorish, boring, rude and not even funny. Their brains don’t extend very far..

        • insider 2.1.1.2

          I didn’t say I thought the Beckham comment was acceptable. I thought it was pretty gay. But it’s hardly likely to damage “this nations relationship with the UK”

          • crashcart 2.1.1.2.1

            Why would you think gay people would say that Becks is stupid? I am sure they have a range of view’s.

          • Colonial Viper 2.1.1.2.2

            Insider, you thought that the PM’s “Gay” comment was “Gay”?

            Seriously???

            • insider 2.1.1.2.2.1

              No not seriously. I should have put a smiley there.

              • Jim Nald

                The trick is to let loose a few kicks, derogatory and insulting, and then say you are joking. It’s a laff. All good on Planet Key.

          • framu 2.1.1.2.3

            “I didn’t say I thought the Beckham comment was acceptable”

            really?

            “Do you really think it will come to any surprise to a Brit that DB might not be considered the brightest? You don’t know much about their culture. A Posh and Becks joke just won best one liner at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival”

            • insider 2.1.1.2.3.1

              In response to “They must be copping incredible grief from the English as a result of being associated with this homophobic hater who has also damaged this nations relationship with the UK.”

              • framu

                context is everything :-)

                • fatty

                  Insider struggles with context…a joke at the fringe festival is OK, therefore a comment by a prime minister is OK.
                  Frankie Boyle kind of humour is for a comedy stage, and its funny there…but when a prime minister sinks to that level its embarrassing

        • Fisiani 2.1.1.3

          I hear that in the UK Beckham is known as Bottle. Because his comments show he is empty from the neck up.
          Gay used to mean happy, then it morphed into homosexual, then it morphed into munted. Get over it. Words change their meaning. The gay gay was gay uses all three meanings. The bandage was wound around the wound.
          These threads are increasingly purely a vehicle for hate speech re John Key, the greatest ever Prime Minister in NZ history.Absolute frustration at the political impotence of such fevered attacks to convince others. Bewildered as to how the vast majority of people not only fail to take offense but actually further warm to a really likeable and genuine guy. It just shows that the hard Left are really out of touch .

          • PlanetOrphan 2.1.1.3.1

            lol, maybe you should poll Christchurch or Northland for your beloved leader.

          • vto 2.1.1.3.2

            shut up nigger

            [lprent: And even with the relevant context, when directed at another commentator, I'm not impressed by this. Repetition (by anyone) is likely to result in bans ]

          • Te Reo Putake 2.1.1.3.3

            The Sun newspaper hard left? Don’t tell Rupert Murdoch, he’s got enough bad news to deal with!

      • crashcart 2.1.2

        Big difference between a comedian in a comedy routine insulting a guy and the PM doing it after the same guy did a favour by meeting his son.

        The almost accepted use of gay to represent things that aren’t trendy or abnormal is incredibly harmful should be discouraged not encouraged. No you may not be thinnking “I hate gays’s” when you say “what a gay red shirt”. However any gay who hears you is thinking “why is a weird shirt being compared to me?” Key rather than encouraging this should be smarter and avoid the stupidity.

        • insider 2.1.2.1

          Gay is a word with a long and varied history. Why should one group get to define it? Can I similarly never use queer or queen or faggot or bent without risking offense?

          • Colonial Viper 2.1.2.1.1

            yeah insider still trying to redefine words to protect Key. FFS I cant wait until you pull out the latin roots.

            • insider 2.1.2.1.1.1

              Gay is germanic is origin. Classics fail

              • Colonial Viper

                Oh i forgot to put a smiley there

              • Te Reo Putake

                It’s French, insider. Bigot Fail.

                • insider

                  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay

                  Origin of GAY

                  Middle English, from Anglo-French gai, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German gāhi quick, sudden
                  First Known Use: 14th century

                  • Te Reo Putake

                    Yep, like I said, French in the relatively modern meaning (up to last century). Or Indo-European in the original. German was just a minor and irrelevant sidestep on the way to where we are today.

                  • McFlock

                    OMG, he was saying that the shirt was “sudden”???

                    Fucksake, this is not a definition contest here we find whatever obscure, archaic or imaginary definition that isn’t a bigoted derogatory slur.

                    The dude used a word that many people in this country use to describe some aspect of themselves, and he used it in a derogatory way. Keep polishing that turd.

          • Lightly 2.1.2.1.2

            yes. words’ meanings change but that’s irrelevant. The meaning with which Key used ‘gay’ was ‘weird, effeminate, relating to homosexuals’ – which gets its meaning as an insulting use of a word for homosexuals.

            When you call something ‘gay’ you’re saying it’s ‘bad, like homosexuals’

            • insider 2.1.2.1.2.1

              Using that criteria gay should be very offensive to homosexuals, as its previous incarnation was to do with prostitution and sexual licentiousness. Are you calling all gays slappers or willng to put out for cash?

              • Colonial Viper

                You still rewriting the dictionary to suit John Key, insider?

                • insider

                  Just using facts CV. I know that goes against your constitution

                  • Colonial Viper

                    Glad you endorse a PM who tries to impress teenage girls by slagging others off.

                    • Bob

                      CV, how about the hypocracy from you, so it is fine for Hone Harawira to call National MP’s ‘House Niggers’, as you were happy to repeat here http://thestandard.org.nz/unqualified-teachers-in-charter-schools-condemned/#comment-518632 but it’s wrong for John Key to say ‘Gay red shirt’? According to dictionary.com’s meaning for the word ‘Nigger’ it is an “Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.”, don’t worry that there are other meanings for the word, because we should only focus on the version that offends people if an MP says it.

                      Blue Leopard same for you
                      http://thestandard.org.nz/poverty-watch-2/#comment-519464

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Oh Bob, that’s cute.

                      Hone Harawira was making a political point with his ‘House Niggers’ comment.

                      What political point was Key making with his “Gay” comment, and with his “Batshit Thick” comment?

                    • felix

                      Also Bob, that comment was made in reference to maori Party MPs. How would it make any sense to make it about National MPs?

                      You do know what the term means, don’t you?

                      Seeing as you gave a dictionary definition of “nigger” instead of “house nigger”, I’m guessing that you don’t know what it means.

                      (Or that you do, and you know that your outrage would seem ridiculous and out of place if you admitted that you knew, so you pretended he just called them “niggers” instead. Lame, dude.)

                    • Bob,

                      I have not commented on the use of the word of “gay”, I have mixed responses to it, in general and in appropriate context I can find the use of it amusing, however I understand the arguments re the negative effects such speech can have.

                      The only comments I have made on this thread, is that I find our PM is simply a puppet-boy of Crosy-Textor advise and isn’t and shouldn’t be viewed as anything other than that. Did that upset you, Bob?

                      Despite not being in this conversation, you, Bob draw me in, clearly not liking my reference to us all as ‘multi-coloured house-niggers’ a few months ago. I continue to believe that is exactly what we are. When we all stop acting like such, I will change my views and not before.

                      Are you going to answer CV’s question, Bob?

                    • Bob

                      So CV, in your opinion it is okay to use hate speak when you are using it in political terms? Or is it just that you can use the full context of the sentence it was used in when its a ‘left wing’ politician but single out words in a sentence, removing context, to chastise somone when its a ‘right wing’ politician?

                      I think the context in which John Key used the word ‘Gay’ was mildly inappropriate given his position (remember, the word does have multiple meanings that are completely acceptable, would you stop your children watching the Flintstones because they have a ‘Gay ‘ol time’? Would you not eat ‘Gaytime’ icecream cones because they are bigoted?), but hardly worth getting upset about!

                      Felix, do some reading http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7623209/Harawiras-N-bomb-directed-at-National-MPs (is there some underlying racism there Felix, making assumptions about it being the Maori party? You know what they say about people in glass houses) and you are singling out the word ‘Gay’ in John Key’s sentence, what’s the difference?

                      Blue Leopard, apologies for dragging you in, just saw your name in the thread above while I was looking for CV’s comments, noted the anti-National stance to your ‘Crosby-Textor PR guys’ post and without further reading (sort of like Felix) jumped the gun adding in your ‘House Niggers’ quote. As for answering CV, done.

                    • mike e

                      Bob Hone got more than enough stick over his comments he’s the leader of a very minor party not the PM of our country

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Ahhhhh Bob, you’re so cute, I mean GAY, when you obfuscate.

                    • felix

                      ‘the fuck are you on about Bob? Do you know what the term means or not?

                      Why are you still pretending he called them “niggers” rather than “house niggers”?

                      Do you really not understand the point he was making? I find it hard to believe you’re that thick.

                    • Bob

                      Thanks CV, but I wasn’t obfuscating, I even used small words to help you understand.

                      Felix, I know what the term ‘House Negro’ is, as it was coined by Malcolm X, Hone Harawira took it to a whole new level when he said ‘House Niggers’, and if it was in reference to what Malcolm X spoke about then yes I understand the point he was trying to make, but it doesn’t excuse the fact you take what Hone Harawira said in context (even when he added the word ‘Niggers’ himself, but apparently I can’t single that out), then single out one word that John Key says without taking that in context.

                      [lprent: I haven't been interrupting the language lessons except when the language was directed against another commentator. But I'm keeping an eye on it in case it goes to excess and drops into a flamewar. ]

          • karol 2.1.2.1.3

            Gay is a word with a long and varied history. Why should one group get to define it? 
             
            Why not?  Your knowledge of socio-linguistic history is very shallow.  At the time in the 60s/70s, there were no positive words for homosexuals.  Get that?  There was NO way to talk about homosexuality that didn’t involve using words with negative associations.  I guess they could have made up a word, but it’d have been a hard slog to get anyone to use it.
             
            So campaigners opted for “gay” as a word to redefine.  This is because, in common language it also had positive associations.  The campaigning was largely successful.
             
            But in recent times there has been a move in the homophobic school-yard to undo all that hard campaigning work, and make “gay” again a sneer word.  Some gay people are trying to show young people why it’s a problem to use “gay” as a sneer.
             
            Totally irresponsible of a Prime Minister to jump on board with the schoolyard sneer, in order to try to win their support.  he should be setting a better example than that.
             
            Language is always changing – some times it’s political like any other human activity, and requires intervention.

      • bbfloyd 2.1.3

        Don’t be so uteerly thick innie…. This is our PRIME MINISTER acting like a homopobic teenage bully…. not just some nameless schoolboy with a stunted emotional developement issue….

        He is our LEADER, and as such, is expected to conduct himself with the dignity that office requires…..

        Go down to your local high school, and engage your empathy with the bully’s on the playground if you truly beleive that crap you talk….. leave the grownup stuff to those who understand what “grownup” means…

        • insider 2.1.3.1

          point is floyd, it’s not a bullying term. It’s morphed to something much much less. Key likes to be liked and uses language to get in with the crowd. It doesn’t grate well with me at times but it works for him. Stuff poll has the majority accepting it as a joke – reasonably even split but if a US presidential election it’d be a landslide.

          • McFlock 2.1.3.1.1

            yeah, it is a bullying term. Just FYI.

          • shorts 2.1.3.1.2

            given Key’s age, it most certainly was meant in a insulting and homophobic manner, albeit one he personally finds amusing

            gutless he tries to blame his son for his usage of the term

          • crashcart 2.1.3.1.3

            When I was young it was not uncommon to hear people refer to a job not done properly or half done as a Maori Job. This was completely normal and most people didn’t bat an eyelid when used. Didn’t change that it was an incredably racist thing to say. Your use of gay is similar. Claiming its common use doesn’t make it any less insulting.

          • Enough is Enough 2.1.3.1.4

            What is your opinion on the word ‘nigger’?

            It has also changed meaning over time?

            Would it be fine for the PM to say “I was partying with my niggers last night’?

            • insider 2.1.3.1.4.1

              No skinny white boy should use that word.

              • onsos

                Here’s a hint: If you’re gonna use a term that describes a community, you do it on their terms. So you white boy should use the n-word, because of its history. Using ‘gay’ pejoratively is similar.

          • bbfloyd 2.1.3.1.5

            Sigh, Innie……So Johnny’s an obsequious crawler, and that’s ok, ’cause it works for him??

            Quoting the herald, rather than stuff,may have had more validity in proving how large the group of ignoramuses, with not even the vaguest notion of what’s acceptable for the spokesman for a whole country to publically opine and what isn’t, is,…. but not much…. The herald has to appear(in the editors mind) neutral at least…..

            Still making half arsed excuses for an excuse of a leader….

            • Colonial Viper 2.1.3.1.5.1

              bb which political party are you talking about here

              :twisted:

              • bbfloyd

                I find that I have to stop and think before I can answer that…….sigh..

                Three words keep repeating ,,”the merry pranksters” ..over and over… and there’s glitter on the walls…Johnnies been there too..

      • Sanctuary 2.1.4

        The problem with your argument is that 9-14 year old school boys are children/adolescents. Are you really saying the comparative test for appropriate behaviour for the prime minister of an OECD member, a first world nation of some dignity, is that of the giggling inanity of pre-pubescent school boys?

        As for the Beckham comment – its cost nothing to simply be polite to people with whom you have no quarrel. Gratuitously insulting anyone for no other reason than a cheap laugh is simply rude. What next, point out a mentally impaired person and start walking funny whilst loudly saying “look, I’m spastic to”?That would probably bring the house down with the right crowd.

        Quite simply, when you occupy the supposedly dignified office of prime minister you should behave to a higher standard. We all know Key doesn’t take democratic institutions seriously, including that of the office of prime minister. It is just a pity he chooses to parade his contempt for his office in such public ways.

        • ianmac 2.1.4.1

          Really dumb for a PM trying to curry favour with youngsters by using their vernacular. I think that it was showing himself to be as thick as two planks, or maybe one plank.

        • insider 2.1.4.2

          The problem with your argument is that I’m not making that argument at all. What I said was it was far from ‘hate speech’ (which was frankly a hysterical comparison – use the definition that suits; it works as well for the two I know).

          And I’ve not defended the Becks comment – I agree it was silly and rude (if true) – but said its hardly likely to damage relations with a country that has a long history of Becks bashing.

          • onsos 2.1.4.2.1

            Point is, insider, whether it’s hate speech or not, it’s a bullying term. That’s how it’s used in schools. That’s how Key used it here. That’s how you’re using it.

            When called up on it, teenagers usually say something like, ‘Just jokes!’ Only, it’s not. Therson who is accused of being ‘gay’ is haveing their sexuality and gender identitiy questioned, and anyone who identifies as being gay is explicitly insulted.

            It is bullying. We educate teenagers about this. We expect better from someone who has the epithet ‘Right Honorable’, because they normalise discourse.

            That is a very ‘insider’ thing to do–to opt for the idiot opinion. Don’t be insulted. ‘insider’ means a few things, including idiotic. It doesn’t refer to you necessarily.

            • insider 2.1.4.2.1.1

              anything can be bullying said with the right attitude. In my experience its mostly used without any awareness of the more adult alternative meaning, knowledge required for it to be bullying in the way you describe.

              • onsos

                Pretty much every teenager knows what gay means. John Key knows this. I know this, you know this. Your comment here is moronic.

                I’ll make it clear: if you use a word that describes a group of people as an insult, you are insulting that group of people.

      • Enough is Enough 2.1.5

        We don’t indict in New Zealand and are you really comparing John Key’s hate speech to the mindless pranks of a 9 year old. Really. Is that who we hold our fuckwith of a Prime Minister up against. AWESOME leadership

        Because of Key’s homophobic rant, the problem of 9 year olds using inapproriate language will increase.

        Your defence of this homophobe tells me a lot about your own bigotry.

          • Enough is Enough 2.1.5.1.1

            Point well and truly flew you by didn’t it….

            • insider 2.1.5.1.1.1

              When you start with attempt to point score in an utterly incompetent way, don’t be surprised if people ignore the rest.

              I think you can be pretty confident that most 9 year olds don’t give a second thought to what the PM does or doesn’t say when choosing the latest playground insult.

              • Enough is Enough

                Im my view you are nothing more than bigot.

                You are justifying the PM using hate speech and have no problem with what our children will think of his remarks. This clearly shows you have no problem with homophobic bigotry in our society.

                Give yourself a slow clap…

              • Enough is Enough

                PS…when was a 9 year old last indicted. We don’t trial kids in New Zealand.

                Point scored me thinks.

                • Rob

                  wow, must be amazing being you, how righteous and superior, but of course that is the standard way. I have young kids and this is one term that is in current circulation, alongside many others that I am sure would steam you up into an a bigger lather.

                • insider

                  “we don’t trial kids in New Zealand.”

                  No but we do trial dogs.

              • mike e

                Outsider wasn’t Crusher Collins enacting new legislation to stop cyber bullying!
                Our limelight stealing leader has under mined her initiative maybe as the polls show Teflon tongued Pm sliding down we might have a leadership challenge!

    • Bob 2.2

      I am in the UK at the moment, and the general consensus from people I have spoken to here (even from my far left boss) is that he sounds like a down to earth Prime Minister and they have asked if we would swap!

      Nowhere near as PC over here, and with the exception of the low life media (that everyone over here takes with a grain of salt after the Leveson Inquiry, and the alleged BBC cover-up of Jimmy Saville), I haven’t heard a bad word said.

      So don’t worry about us EiE, if anything its raised the way Kiwi’s are viewed in UK life.

    • Richard McGrath 2.3

      Breaking News: Words can have more than one meaning.

      ‘Gay’ has had an alternative meaning other than ‘homosexual’ for several years, I first heard it used to mean ‘weird’ or generally negative in 2004. You guys should get out more.

      Oh, and rumour has it at one time the word ‘gay’ also meant happy/carefree.

      • McFlock 2.3.1

        Yeah. Funny how the word “gay” became “generally negative” after it entered widespread use to describe a particular sexual orientation.

        Oh wait, that’s the entire fucking point right there.

        • Colonial Viper 2.3.1.1

          Oh, and rumour has it at one time the word ‘gay’ also meant happy/carefree.

          That’s it. Perhaps the PM was using the 1920′s Gilded Age definition, after all, that’s where he’s trying to take the elite back to.

        • Bob 2.3.1.2

          Thanks for the history lesson McFlock, since you are so clued up on these things, can you please tell me an appropriate single word I can use for a ‘bundle of wooden sticks’? When did this change from ‘faggot’? Can I still use ‘faggot’? So hard to keep up with such a fast changing world where words just have their meanings changed without any sort of media release!

          • McFlock 2.3.1.2.1

            Bob, if you need a set of instructions on when to use particular words, you’re as emotionally clueless as our prime minister.
                   
            Given that the term “faggot” to denote a bundle of sticks is largely archaic, I’d still have the suspicion  that you were being passive-aggressively homophobic even if you used it in that inoffensive sense. It all depends on the inflection. 
                     
            The fact that some people claim to be so abjectly incapable of grasping the basics of social intercourse is … terrific (note that I acquiesce to your illogical insistence that archaic definitions must be regarded as still being in common usage).

            • Bob 2.3.1.2.1.1

              Okay, how about this one, if the PM came back from Amsterdam and talked about being in awe of the massive Dykes they have over there.
              All ‘modern’ words used in context, is he allowed to say that?

              • lprent

                Spelt dikes I believe.

                • Bob

                  Not according to this http://grammarist.com/spelling/dike-dyke/ unless you are from the US or Canada? There is even a NZ example on there for you (even though it is from the NZ Herald, so doesn’t overly help my argument).

                  • lprent

                    Always seen it spelt “dike” and that was entirely from within NZ. I have run across its usage as dyke, but main pre-20th century English material, and that was mostly about the fens. So figured it to be a regional usage for somewhere around East Anglia.

                    But I care not either way. Just spell things so that others can understand what I’m saying.

                    • Bob

                      TBH I was unsure of the spelling as well as it seems to be acceptable both ways, however, the pronounciation remains the same which was my point, if you take words out of context they can be seen as bigoted and homophobic if you want them to be. Taken in context though, they can have completely different meanings, which is where the defence of John Key’s statement comes in.
                      Words (even ones relating to homosexuality) can have multiple meetings, take the context of the entire sentence, don’t just single out one word and build an arguement on that (not you in particular lprent, more aimed at James Henderson and others that have singled out one word in a sentence).

                    • lprent

                      Problem with John Key is that he increasingly has a Paul Henry affliction. Plausible deniality only works if it doesn’t look like if it is deliberate, and repeatably having “mistakes” of the same style just spells deliberate.

                      In his case he says one thing in “private” then denies it or calls the cops if it goes public. His actual “sin” is to be thoroughly cynically hypocritical with lousy mixed messaging. These days, each instance is highlighted by many because we have seen the same lying pattern repeatably. In fact you can damn near make a rulebook about how his minders will tell him how to handle each instance.

                      He has simply over used up his credibility and is heading towards becoming political toast

              • Te Reo Putake

                If he was talking about dikes (note the spelling, fool), no problem. But if he was being as homophobic and illiterate as you, then yeah, probably a problem. But luckily, our PM is not a dull witted bigot … oh, wait …

              • mike e

                bob your a dufus

                • Bob

                  mike e, it’s “you’re” not “your”, don’t worry though, I understand what you meant, and won’t take it out of context like some people have about John Key’s comment.

              • McFlock

                Bob, 
                       
                If he said a DJ’s shirt made them look like a dyke, can you see why people might take offense? 

  3. Red Rosa 3

    http://www.independent.ie/video/video-world-news/no-apology-from-new-zealand-pm-over-beckham-is-thick-jibe-3284809.html

    Beckham comments hit the headlines in Ireland too. The above probably old news now, but well put together by ITN, once you get past the charming colleen in the ad…;)

    This really is a cringeworthy disply from Key…our PM for gawd’s sake….

  4. shorts 4

    He’s a shallow “suit”…. therefore when was he ever in touch?

  5. Lanthanide 5

    Posted on the other thread but fits this one a little better:
    I wonder if Key is actually from another century and meant to say “queer red shirt” but was trying to be street so used the modern term “gay”.

    • bbfloyd 5.1

      That’s taking apologism to new, and extreme levels…..

      • Lanthanide 5.1.1

        :roll:

      • PlanetOrphan 5.1.2

        True, u can’t defend his use of the word full stop,
        to even try and crawl into his mind says something you do not want too hear Lanthanide57

        • gobsmacked 5.1.2.1

          @Floyd/Orphan

          I think your irony detector needs new batteries ;)

          Or in simple terms: Lanth isn’t saying what you seem to think.

          • PlanetOrphan 5.1.2.1.1

            How many people are gonna try being “street” with all these comments ?

            Let alone a gay person who’s coping shit at the moment coz everyones no longer “PC” ?

            We understand what yas where saying and protesting your lack of thought.

          • bbfloyd 5.1.2.1.2

            Assumption is the mother of all F**k ups, my gnarled old grandfather used to say….Take a leap of faith gobbed one… maybe the joke will manifest itself to you too!!

  6. Matthew 6

    As Minister of Tourism, Key is doing a wonderful job of encouraging people to visit Australia.

    • bbfloyd 6.1

      To be fair though…. He may be cleverer than all of us…. there are large groups around the world that owe their existance to homophobia, xenophobia, and fear of the unknown in general….

      We could be getting lined up to become “mecca’ for those downtrodden soldiers of “gods true order”…

  7. Colonial Viper 7

    Seriously though lets get back on the game here, ie sort out an independent, well financed, powerful Mines Inspectorate AND make sure the Govt implements MMP changes as they have been recommended with none of their usual BS.

  8. King Kong 8

    As much as it was probably not the best choice of words for a Prime Minister I would bet that amongst those jumping up and down in outrage, not a single one of you was actually offended.

    All this kind of thing does is remind us why we kicked your lot out in 2008…because you are humourless, politically correct, lightbulb stealing, shower de-powering, criminal cuddling, nanny state nob heads.

    • Lightly 8.1

      What’s humourous and PC got to do with Key calling Beckham thick as batshit and using gay as an insult?

      • TightyRighty 8.1.1

        When was the last time a gay person, who didn’t use their sexuality to define everything about themselves actually get concerned by the use of gay as a derogatory term? my friends are far more concerned when people use terms like homo and faggot or the awful queer cunt. The majority of gay people, those who aren’t victims are relatively unconcerned about how it’s use has changed in mainstream culture. The same ones who understand that it originally adapted from another meaning and now see the irony in a words meaning having gone full 180.

        But keep being victims, completely forget the tale of the boy who cried wolf.

        • framu 8.1.1.1

          yeah i know plenty of gay folk you use the term pretty much to describe things they think are lame – but with full knowledge of what it might mean to others (which is the important bit), they alter their language based on present company

          Though that doesnt change the fact that there is a difference between pub talk and public talk. And key (as the PM) is expected to know the difference – unless we expect him to be some third rate comedian that even TVNZ wouldnt put on air.

          hands up who lets a swear word or two out when round the BBQ – now, hands up who also says F**k down the phone to their mum? (ok theres probably some – but you get the picture)

          ————————————————————————————–

          ” those who aren’t victims are relatively unconcerned about how it’s use”

          isnt that the point of why its not good for the PM to go round calling people thick as bat shit and describing things as gay?

        • mike e 8.1.1.2

          Tighty almighty your out of touch like your leader (trying to be cool with young ones )
          Its a highly derogatory insult.
          I have 2 teenagers at home. Your experience is money in the bank!

    • Lanthanide 8.2

      Actually I’m offended. So there you go.

      • insider 8.2.1

        Is that on behalf of all nobheads? ;-)

      • alwyn 8.2.2

        I formerly worked with a chap whose surname was Gay.
        He said that he was not offended by what anyone got up to but he was very offended that they had, in his words, “stolen” his name.
        Should all homosexual males stop using the term “Gay” because he was upset?

        • crashcart 8.2.2.1

          My Grandfather Richard was always refered to as Dic. should he be offended when I refer to you as one?

          • alwyn 8.2.2.1.1

            Not in the slightest. I suppose I can consider myself privileged to share a name with your grandfather.
            My God! Perhaps I am your Grandfather. Is he still alive?

        • gobsmacked 8.2.2.2

          Words previously “stolen” …

          queer, faggot, fag, fairy, pansy … and many more.

          All these words had other meanings, BEFORE they became terms of abuse. See any good dictionary.

          Did the defenders of our language speak out against the “stealing” of those words? Did they stand alongside the victims of bigotry and (often) violence?

          If so, respect. If not, hypocrites.

        • Uturn 8.2.2.3

          No because he was in possession of the power to protect himself. He could change his name, for instance. Gays can’t chose not to be gay or chose when or where they might experience discrimination. If a person can escape or neutralise the discrimination they meet, without disadvantaging themselves, an insult is not going to cause the same level of damage as someone who has just been called a random name.

          • insider 8.2.2.3.1

            Uh oh that’s a lightening rod. Expect the fundies and catholics to turn up soon

            • Uturn 8.2.2.3.1.1

              Yeah I’ve heard about that. The problem is that their argument immediately fails the “good faith” module of Discussion 101.

        • framu 8.2.2.4

          well all those happy jolly ye-olde people can line right up and accuse him of stealing their word by that logic

    • crashcart 8.3

      Labor is Nanny State? Don’t remember them telling young people on a beneift how they were allowed to spend it. Don’t remember them decreeing that beneficiary children have to go to ECE.

      Really your only things that you can try and link to them being Nanny State (lightbulbs and shower heads) never actually happened did they. Oh sure there was a paper that said it would be a good idea but it was never policy. National have had some insane right wing papers come out during their time. Of course that doesn’t matter when you swollowed the PR line so whole heartedly does it KK. Why think for yourself when you can have a PR firm and the media do it for you.

      • ianmac 8.3.1

        The origin of the lightbulbs and shower was an Energy Committee asked to identify ways that people could save energy. Nothing to do with Labour Policy.
        That unfortunate un-funny RADAR chap did an ad for National on TV which had him revelling in a 4 X headed shower.

        • Jim Nald 8.3.1.1

          How about if blame is to be poured on the poor handling of shower heads,
          blame the man whose hands used the taxpayers’ credit card to which he charged his porn?

    • Karen 8.4

      KK I bet if it was Helen Clark who made those comments instead of this clown currently masquerading as a PM you wouldn’t be so tolerant.

      • King Kong 8.4.1

        Quite honestly I think she would have gone up in my estimation. Would have been nice to see her not being a sour faced old cow and having a laugh.

        • Colonial Viper 8.4.1.1

          Because KK prefers clowns to lead the country

          • mike e 8.4.1.1.1

            Maybe KK likes defending his fellow Circus performers.
            I have a feeling he defends the rights point of view at all costs because the left would shut down his circus over animal welfare issues ,that’s why he is so angry being stuck in a cage all day and having to perform in front of a crowd that just throw peanuts at him,That would make him bored as Batshit!
            We understand KK.

        • Hanswurst 8.4.1.2

          The thing is that Helen Clark was really, honestly a lot wittier and funnier than Key, whose “humour” consists almost entirely of regurgitating standard blokish phrases. She just didn’t see the dissemination of humorous vibes as being her role when she was appearing publicly as Prime Minister.

          • felix 8.4.1.2.1

            Listen to Key talk about his public appearances; it’s very clear that he sees himself primarily as an entertainer.

            We really do have David Brent for a PM.

            • Hanswurst 8.4.1.2.1.1

              Well, yes, it’s absolutely plain that Mr. Key sees himself as an entertainer. There is, however, often a fine line between being an entertainer and being a dick. Unfortunately, Key isn’t anywhere near that line – he’s just an out-and-out dick.

    • mike e 8.5

      primitive primate Getting a bit flustered their.
      Energy use reduction brings down power prices! A very bright idea !
      Reducing water usage with modern shower heads brings down rates something the right harps on about endlessly!(most of Europe the US and Aussie already do so!)
      Criminal cuddling National have instituted left wing policy on re offending rates rather than lockem up and throw away the key approach they campaigned on smart move from the right very unusual but successful maybe the right should try a few more left wing policies!
      Nanny state Under national more people on the benefit!
      Consultants that National are hiring are costing more than what the public servants they are sacking!

    • QoT 8.6

      not a single one of you was actually offended.

      We’re not offended, we’re contemptuous.

    • Fisiani 8.7

      You only missed out “without the good looking women”. otherwise very accurate.

  9. PlanetOrphan 9

    Can’t wait for the next KKK meeting to be reported on then ….
    I wonder what terms he’ll use there to engender friendship and love of PlanetKey ….

    Anyone defending that F’wit ever thought about “Lead By Example” fallout that he’s caused ?

    You are a bunch of ignorant tosers ….

  10. vto 10

    what was john key trying to achieve by calling Beckham thick as batshit?

  11. gobsmacked 11

    None of this is new from Key.

    “Indian giver” … Maori cannibal jokes … pandering to Paul Henry … etc.

    He hasn’t changed, he’s just no longer getting an indulgent smile and pat on the head from the media.

    (And BTW … it’s not about some tedious “leftie” versus “rightie” hack-fight. I can think of many conservatives with views on economic policy that I loathe. But they don’t all act like 10 year olds).

    • Jim Nald 11.1

      This is on to something.
      Brings to mind the kind of language heard at National Party conferences and also being around Nat MPs and their kind during board meeting tea breaks, Koru Club lounges and such like.

  12. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12

    Someone is certainly out of touch.

    Preferred PM

    Key 65.6% (+2.1%)
    Shearer 12.9% (-1.3%)

    Source: Herald Digipoll September 2012.

    • Colonial Viper 12.1

      Ahhh on to phase II is it? Key is so popular he can do no wrong?

      • gobsmacked 12.1.1

        I think Gormless is saying that Key has lost 20% in the past month.

        • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1.1

          I am simply saying that the one thing no-one can accuse Key of is being out of touch. He has personally resonated with the public in a way that no other New Zealand politician in my lifetime has.

          • Colonial Viper 12.1.1.1.1

            And now he’s trying to resonate with teenage school girls

          • mike e 12.1.1.1.2

            Gormless Maybe you should change your name to rumplstiltskin

          • lprent 12.1.1.1.3

            …in a way that no other New Zealand politician in my lifetime…

            There is a problem with being young and without an ability to either listen to read history nor to the voice of experience.

            Basically John Key is a mediocre politician because he is both lazy and sloppy. You can get away with charm (a job requirement for politicians) and with these lousy traits for a term as PM. But then everything starts falling in because someone mediocre as a politician will be incompetent at running the ministers in the government. Which is precisely what has happened with John Key and for that matter with David Lange.

            All I can say is that you don’t observe the past much. In another few years you’ll have most people denying that they ever voted for the useless parasite. IMO the only thing that is preventing that from happening right now in the general population is that the public can’t see anything better on offer at this point in time. But the bad thing about that is that means that Winston will start rising again….

            • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1.1.3.1

              There is a problem with being young…

              Why, thank you.

              Basically John Key is a mediocre politician…

              Maybe, but the question at hand is not whether he is a good politician, but whether he is out of touch. And clearly, people love him. Not all, people, obviously. But 65.6% is a pretty good number.

  13. Hami Shearlie 13

    Considering that David Beckham was at the Royal Wedding because he is Prince William’s FRIEND, and not just a head of state like Jonkey, I would imagine that this comment didn’t go down too well with the Prince. Darn! Jonkey, you should have thought of that before you opened the big trap. We know what a little toady to royalty you are!! I wonder if Prince William will be so friendly to our “Prime Mincer” next time he visits? And I also wonder if Prince William will be wasting 45 minutes of HIS valuable time on Jonkey’s ungrateful little wretch of a son!! Key is ill-mannered and has passed this trait on to his son!! So much for the teachings of Kings College too!!!

  14. Roy 14

    John Key’s style appeals to the sort of people who make up Paul Henry’s fanbase. ‘Nuff said.

    • Bob 14.1

      You are on to something here Roy, look at how far the Breakfast ratings fell when Paul Henry left! The average NZer loves someone that speaks their mind, and as much as it has obviously caused a great amount of faux outrage here (can’t find any of these people condeming Hone Harawira for his ‘House Nigger’ jibe!) the average Joe on the street doesn’t mind, just look at the Stuff poll! http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/

      • Roy 14.1.1

        We don’t have to, and should not, cater for the lowest common (very common, in fact) denominator.

  15. Blue 15

    Gotta admire the right wing attempts to excuse Johnny Sparkles over his foot-in-mouth disease.

    Saying that everyone ‘knows’ Becks is thick is pathetic – whether he is or not, John Key shouldn’t have said it. It was buying himself headlines he didn’t need.

    And if the UK wasn’t offended, it wouldn’t have been on the front page of the Sun. They don’t just put a story on the front page for shits and giggles, it’s the country’s biggest tabloid and the stories have to provoke a reaction in the public to sell.

    The righties cheerfully defend the use of the word ‘gay’ meaning ‘weird’ being completely okay and totally not offensive to gay people. A country’s Prime Minister using language that stigmatises gay people as weird is okay because teenagers do it all the time.

    Then the ‘well, at least he has a sense of humour’ cries – as if any of Johnny’s jokes are actually funny to anyone except the National MPs who have to laugh at them. I don’t think I’ve heard a single decent joke from him in the entire four years that he’s been PM.

    And then the good old ‘he’s so popular it doesn’t matter’ defence. As if being more popular than David Shearer is some sort of impressive achievement. Shit, if he was losing that race then he’d definitely be in trouble.

    Still, I can understand their anxiety. Johnny’s string of screwups is the signature of a man under pressure. If he cracks, the right will be choosing between Joyce and Collins, and that’s enough to make any Nat loyalist sweat.

    • gobsmacked 15.1

      “I don’t think I’ve heard a single decent joke from him in the entire four years that he’s been PM.”

      Too true. It’s like the BBQ bores …

      My response: roll eyes.

      “Oh, haven’t you get a sense of humour?”

      “Yes, I watch John Stewart, he makes me laugh.”

      “Who?”

      The special self-delusion of the dull, derivative and unfunny to believe that if it goes over their heads, it’s not funny. Because they are the sole arbiters of humour.

    • “I don’t think I’ve heard a single decent joke from him in the entire four years that he’s been PM.”

      Can’t remember the first part of this joke, but the punch line was something like “towards a brighter future” ?
      Then there are the other 2 jokes, again forget the first part but the punch lines.
      “less unemployment and less immigration to Australia”

  16. Chalupa Batman 16

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5781365/Upset-over-Mallard-comment

    Ah well at least no one from the left would use insulting terms about someones sexuality…

    • gobsmacked 16.1

      1) Mallard is not on the left
      2) Read the first sentence … “says he shouldn’t have”. Then link to Key saying the same.

      Next …

      • Chalupa Batman 16.1.1

        3. But he wouldn’t apologise. “It was part of a series of two way offensive comments and I got quite a lot more than I received.”

        To be honest I don’t think the comments made by Mallard and Key are that bad but I just like pointing out that the left is as bad as the right

        • gobsmacked 16.1.1.1

          But it isn’t.

          You’ll be disappointed if you’re hoping the Left will all rush to defend Mallard. I think he’s an idiot.

          Bigotry – or more often, pandering to it – is a core characterisitic of the reactionary right. Too often some on the left try and appease, but they are wrong … and usually not at all left, like a Tamihere.

          • Chalupa Batman 16.1.1.1.1

            Well to be fair I’ve thought that Labour would do better without Mallard (I mean its not like Labour would lose his seat)

            What do you think of the changing of words meaning

            ie Gay used to mean one thing then got changed to another meaning then it got reclaimed and now gay means something completely different

            • framu 16.1.1.1.1.1

              “ie Gay used to mean one thing then got changed to another meaning then it got reclaimed and now gay means something completely different”

              depends on your age though doesnt it – what do you think the word gay means to people of Keys generation?

              Im pretty sure it doesnt mean jolly or lame

            • mike e 16.1.1.1.1.2

              God you talk aload of batshit chalupi

  17. giovani 17

    Remember this. I think he was acting GAY.

    12:00 Mon Feb 7 2011MSN NZ

    Prime Minister John Key has said he was “a bit stupid” to mince down the catwalk modelling the Rugby World Cup volunteers’ uniforms last week.
    Key parodied a model by shaking his hips and flicking his head while strutting down the catwalk.

    He told TV One’s Breakfast show it was a mistake to camp it up.

    “I responded to the crowd last week, I was having a bit of fun, but I shouldn’t have done that. In my view, that was probably a bit stupid,” he said.

    “But unfortunately I get put in a gazillion situations like that… My life is out there engaging with people at a million different events and where ever I go people will start throwing balls around, doing things whatever it is.”

    Key said it was important to balance conveying his serious messages to people with interacting with them, NZPA reports.

    The PM has also come under fire in recent weeks from international media for calling British actress Liz Hurley “hot”.

    UK tabloids labelled the remarks sexist, but Key maintains his claims were not offensive.

  18. deemac 18

    as a Brit I remember when Tony Blair was the most popular politician ever and could do no wrong. Anyone who crticised was told “look how popular he is!” It took ten years for people to see through him sadly, but by then he was toxic. Key is a poor copy of Blair, with the smooth veneer of a snake oil salesman, but sooner or later the voters wise up.
    BTW David Beckham is extremely popular in the UK, particularly with minorities interestingly, despite not being renowned for his intellect. And no country takes kindly to outsiders criticising one of their own. It was rude, stupid and unnecessary – conduct unbecoming a leader.

  19. Reagan Cline 19

    His comment about the gay shirt is “not what you would say” about a shirt according to the 17 year old girl I asked today. Key’s minders should have a quiet word. Old guys who play at being youthful end up looking ridiculous. He should take a break, think STATESMAN and get rid of the toupe.

  20. Richard 20

    Personally I find John Key a bit weird. Does that mean I can say hes is gay?

    Oh, and the Beckham thing – can’t disagree with the opinion, but to say that to schoolgirls is at best tryhard, but also a bit creepy / pervy.

  21. Appleby 21

    This is just another sign that key has lost all interest. He is slipping and showing his real side. One normally tailors ones language to different settings, like at home versus the pub versus the office. This just reflects that key is getting careless and no longer aware or trying to hide his true self. This sort of comment shows him to be a real creep and indeed a borat of the south pacific.

  22. Oh dear, I think that Bomber has it spot on:

    “There are two explanations here. The first is that our PM is a dickhead who shoots his mouth off with all the willful ignorance of Michael Laws at a feminist conference or that it’s a very deliberate tactic to have Key make comments that resonate with his target bloke voter while generating enough liberal outrage to magnetize those voters towards him…..smells like Crosby-Textor ~Bomber Bradbury “

    link to his Tumeke! article

    Apologies I haven’t read all the comments in this thread and perhaps others have said or linked to the same.

    • Colonial Viper 22.1

      Key hasn’t counted on the fact that the effective half life of his little tricks is diminishing month by month.

      • blue leopard 22.1.1

        I hope so. Those PR boys know their stuff though-professional manipulators-and we do have some really bigoted attitudes that are ripe for manipulating…
        I sure hope people are tiring of it. I sure am :(

    • Saarbo 22.2

      Key is a prize wanker and his supporters probably fit that category as well. I have just noted a Stuff survey which shows 8500 votes supporting Key’s comments versus 8000 votes saying “They’re not things a PM should say”. Key is very possibly doing this on purpose as Bomber suggested.

      How can anyone support these morally repugnant arseholes. Then to add salt to the wound he states by way of apology that “Beckham is smart, he has made more money than me”…I need to throw up. 

      • blue leopard 22.2.1

        I think it is advice re Crosby-Textor PR guys. It just makes a whole lot of sense. They will be aiming at the swathe of NZers who approve of this way of talking and these attitudes. Lets face it Key isn’t clever enough to get this level of support; an American (I think) company who is dedicated to working out how to manipulate people’s attitudes and emotions for a specific self-interested aim is… Key should simply be viewed as a Crosby-Textor impersonating puppet.

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    Frankly Speaking | 22-08
  • Letter to the Editor – Just what is the Prime Minister’s role?!
    . . FROM: Frank Macskasy SUBJECT: Letter to the Editor DATE: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 TO: The Listener <letters@listener.co.nz. . The editor The Listener . John Key says he knew nothing about the activities of his one-time media consultant, Jason...
    Frankly Speaking | 22-08
  • A life working for social justice, David Shearer
    I believe New Zealand can be the best country in the world, where everyone can get a fair go and anyone prepared to work for it can achieve their dream....
    Labour campaign | 22-08
  • Key’s pathetic excuses
    Aug 15, 2014Aug 18, 2014Aug 18, 2014Aug 19, 2014Aug 20, 2014...
    The Jackal | 22-08
  • Ancient ocean currents may have changed pace and intensity of ice ages
    This is a re-post from the National Science Foundation Climate scientists have long tried to explain why ice-age cycles became longer and more intense some 900,000 years ago, switching from 41,000-year cycles to 100,000-year cycles. In a paper published this...
    Skeptical Science | 22-08
  • Is Whale Oil a journalist (2)?
    Some time ago, I wrote about Cameron Slater’s claim to be a journalist, which he is invoking for the purposes of protecting his confidential sources. The District Court ordered him to turn over his sources in a defamation case brought...
    Media Law Journal | 22-08
  • Government considering starting CRL on time
    I’ve long suspected the realities surrounding the City Rail Link and its close relationship to some of the biggest development projects in Auckland would in some ways force the governments hand and require an earlier start than 2020. Yesterday the...
    Transport Blog | 22-08
  • Poll of polls
    Polity's poll of polls is up to date, over at the Poll of Polls page. The short version, good to use as a more-or-less pre-Dirty Politics baseline, is: National: 50.4% Labour: 26.4% Greens: 12.0% NZF: 4.6% InternetMANA: 2.3% Conservative: 2.1%...
    Polity | 22-08
  • Primary Teachers Rise Up!
    I have been a primary teacher for 35 years and for over half of that time I have been an active member of the New Zealand Educational Institute, New Zealand's largest education union. NZEI Te Riu Roa represents 50,000 members, including...
    Local Bodies | 22-08
  • Friday melts, weird weather and whales (it’s been a long time…)
    It’s been a long time since my last post: apologies for that. You may blame a bad cold, an urgent need for root canal work, the peak of the truffle season (and truffle tours for culinary heroes1 ), the start...
    Hot Topic | 22-08
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies – Today No. 29: It’s a left-wing smear campaig...
     Key: 'Left wing smear campaign'   Key continues to back Collins    John Key is wrong. He is not the victim of a smear campaign, and here's why: First, let's define "smear campaign". Wikipedia: A smear campaign, smear tactic or simply smear is...
    Arch Rival | 22-08
  • How Many National MPs are Corrupt?
    Reading through the ‘dumps’ of information allegedly showing Scumbag Adulterer Cameron Slater’s messages with National Party Hacks, there is a lot of discussions about money changing hands, Tobacco Companies making ‘donations’, and so on. Not only has Key’s Office and...
    An average kiwi | 22-08
  • Tolley feeds Slater too
    Because of Nicky Hager's excellent book, Dirty Politics, we know that a number of senior National party officials and Ministers have been caught out supplying information and content to the Whale Oil Beef Hooked blogsite, information that Cameron Slater uses...
    The Jackal | 22-08
  • Unsurprising
    No bloggers have signed up to join the Online Media Standards Authority. This isn't really surprising. For a start, membership costs $500 a year (and ten times that if too many people complain) - well beyond the means of most...
    No Right Turn | 22-08
  • Nelson fishing museum satire or not?
    Apparently, unless Fairfax is now taking on The Civilian in the field of satirical news, the Minister of Conservation Nick Smith and fishing magnate Peter Talley are planning a fishing museum in Nelson. And the Minister considers this "ambitious new...
    Greenpeace NZ blog | 22-08
  • Steering By The Real: Chris Trotter Responds To Paul Buchanan.
    Uncharacteristically Idealistic: Normally a cool-headed realist (as befits an expert in international relations) Dr Paul Buchanan has taken issue with Chris Trotter's "cynical" Bowalley Road posting Dirty Politics - Is There Any Other Kind? by offering a passionately idealistic defence of...
    Bowalley Road | 22-08
  • This should not have taken five years
    Back in 2009, after the Herald was given information showing that National MP Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi was suspected by the Immigration Service of paying off a woman at the centre of allegations he had made bogus job offers, Immigration Minister...
    No Right Turn | 22-08
  • Poll of Polls update – 22 August 2014
    The latest Herald Digipoll has just been released, and with a polling window running from 14 August to 20 August, the entirety of the polling was completed following the release of Dirty Politics. The results show a sharp fall of 4.9% for National. However,...
    Occasionally erudite | 22-08
  • Hard News: In The Green Room
    Next Thursday, John Key and David Cunliffe will meet in the first TVNZ leaders' debate. At the same time, Green Party co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman will appear in The Green Room, a "companion" debate streamed live online.I'll be...
    Public Address | 21-08
  • Walking in Manukau
    Just over a month ago I was out at Manukau City, at the open day of the new MIT, which doubles as Manukau station. This is a brilliant facility, with world class integration of land use and transport. If you...
    Transport Blog | 21-08
  • World News Brief, Friday August 22
    Top of the AgendaThai Junta Leader Appointed PM...
    Pundit | 21-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Labour committed to a healthier NZ for all
    A Labour Government will shift the focus of the health system from narrow targets and short term thinking to make public health and prevention a priority, Labour’s health spokesperson Annette King says. Releasing Labour’s full Health policy today she said...
    Labour | 15-08
  • Time Key took responsibility for Collins
    It is well past time for John Key to take some responsibility for the misuse of power and information by his Minister Judith Collins, and follow through on his last warning to her, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “The evidence released...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Dear John, time to answer a few questions… – Harawira
    “When Cameron Slater says about Kim Dotcom ‘I have lots on him…death by a thousand cuts…wait till you see what comes out in coming weeks on that fat c***t’, you have to ask whether this is the same Cameron Slater...
    Mana | 14-08
  • MANA CANDIDATE FOR IKAROA RAWHITI OPENS UP ABOUT SUICIDE
    “This week suicide has claimed yet more lives in whanau and communities in Ikaroa Rawhiti, and my heart goes out to those who are dealing with such a tragic loss”, says MANA candidate for Te Ikaroa Rawhiti, Te Hamua Nikora....
    Mana | 14-08
  • Offshore betting in Labour’s sights
    A Labour Government will clamp down on offshore gambling websites that deprive the local racing industry of funds, Labour’s Racing spokesperson Ross Robertson says. Releasing Labour’s racing policy today, he said betting on offshore websites is a major threat to...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Key has serious questions to answer on Dirty Politics
    John Key must answer the serious questions raised in Nicky Hager’s new book which reveal examples of dirty politics that New Zealanders will be deeply concerned about, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Many people will be disturbed by the evidence...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Creating an inclusive society for disabled people
    A Labour Government will provide free annual health checks for people with an intellectual disability, Labour’s Disability Issues spokesperson Ruth Dyson said today in announcing Labour’s Disability Issues policy. “We will also employ another 100 additional special education teachers and...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA name change
    This is to advise all media that on the 24th of July the ‘Mana’ party name was officially changed to ‘MANA Movement’ under the Electoral Act 1993.  The inclusion of the word ‘Movement’ in our name shouldn’t come as a surprise...
    Mana | 13-08
  • New Zealand must help in the growing Iraq crisis
    The humanitarian crisis in Iraq looks certain to get worse before it gets better,” said David Shearer Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson. “New Zealand should urgently pledge increased humanitarian assistance to United Nations agencies and NGOs present on the ground....
    Labour | 13-08
  • Allegations of migrant worker rort should be investigated
    Labour is calling for an investigation into the alleged exploitation of workers at Hutt Railway workshops, hired to repair asbestos-riddled DL locomotives. Hutt South Labour MP Trevor Mallard has written to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment asking that...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Medical and dentistry students get reprieve under Labour
    A Labour Government will restore the right of medical and dentistry students to get student loans after seven years of study because it is the right thing to do, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says. “Hard on the heels...
    Labour | 13-08
  • National must stop meddling with ACC before the election
    The redesign currently occurring at the Accident Claims Corporation (ACC) for sensitive claims needs to be put on hold immediately, said the Green Party today.The Green Party is concerned about work currently underway at ACC involving the sensitive claims service...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Markets slow but first home buyers still hurting
    First home buyers are hurting more than ever as the supply of affordable houses in the market dries up, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Reserve Bank will be happy LVR minimum deposits and rising interest rates have dampened...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Green Party celebrates MOU win on contaminated sites
    The Green Party is celebrating the announcement of a national register of contaminated sites today, and $2.5 million to start cleaning two sites up. The Green Party and the National Party agreed to include toxic site management work in their...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Emergency staff at breaking point
    The Southern DHB is so cash-strapped it is failing to fill nursing rosters, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson David Clark says.  “Every day emergency department nurses arrive at work knowing they are likely to be carrying more than their recommended workload. ...
    Labour | 12-08
  • ACC minister fails in mission to change culture
    The latest damning report by the Auditor General shows that the ACC Minister has failed to fulfil her mission to fix the sick culture at ACC and real change will not come till a new Government is elected, the Green...
    Greens | 12-08
  • Labour’s regional development fund to support Palmerston North
    Labour will consider a proposal to develop an inland port at Palmerston North, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The Palmerston North community has developed plans for an inland port which will bring jobs and economic growth to a region which...
    Labour | 12-08
  • Green Party announces priorities for Christchurch
    The Green Party has today announced its plan for a fairer, smarter and more democratic Canterbury rebuild, with a focus on smart transport solutions, restoring local democracy, and keeping Christchurch's assets.The plan sits across all of the Green Party's priorities...
    Greens | 11-08
  • Rock-star economy unplugged by China log jam
    The collapse of log prices due to oversupply in China threatens to wash the gloss off what remains of National's so-called rock-star economy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “Already this year the price of milk solids has plunged by more...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Young job seekers dealt a poor hand
    National's "keep 'em poor" card for young people on a benefit is a sorry substitute for job training, Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Sue Moroney says.  The Government today announced it would extend its payment card scheme to all teen parents...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Labour – achieving change for Kiwi women
    Working towards being a world leader in eliminating violence against women and children will be a priority for a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Women’s Affairs policy today spokesperson Carol Beaumont said while Labour had a proud track record of achieving...
    Labour | 11-08
  • A Matter of Whether John Key is Credible
    Headline: A Matter of Whether John Key is Credible Analysis by Selwyn Manning. Prime Minister, John Key.WITHIN NATIONAL’S STRATEGY TEAM there is an acceptance that the facts revealed in the book, Dirty Politics, is chewing away at the party’s popular...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • TDB Political Diary for 2014 Election
    Here are the political events TDB will be covering this election. I will be live tweeting these events and  blog reviews will follow the next day. Internet MANA launch – August – Sunday 24th – 1pm, Western Springs School Green...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • One man’s struggle to find a copy of Dirty Politics
    I’m typing this on top of Dirty Politics.  I got the last copy yesterday morning at the local branch of a chain bookshop.  I was really in to get the paper.  I know it sold out – everyone knows - but the first thing...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • From Tucker to Key – while you were out
      From Tucker to Key – while you were out...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Amnesty International – Justice is not Blind in Ferguson
    When a US cop pulls a gun on an unarmed man, he could be acting upon a series of impulses that have been formed since before he or she could talk. What does that police officer see in front of...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Putting an end to zero-hour contracts in 2015
    All around the world attention is being drawn to what have been dubbed in the UK “zero-hour contracts”. These are contracts that don’t have any guaranteed hours even though the worker may be regularly employed. Unite Union has been struggling...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • NZ’s Foreign Aid: The Party Policies Compared
    For the past two elections, I’ve cast my vote based on a single question, which party promises to give the most money in foreign aid? I grant that this is a fairly narrow and simplistic lens through which to judge...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Steering By The Real: Chris Trotter responds to Paul Buchanan
    WHEN ACADEMICS take to blogging the rest of us best be careful. And when they offer comment on the subject of dirty politics we should all pay attention. I will always remember my history lecturer, Dr Michael Cullen’s, confident dismissal...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Interview Between Selwyn Manning & Sean Plunket Over SIS Release of OIA...
    During a RadioLive interview between host Sean Plunket and managing director of Multimedia Investments Ltd, journalist Selwyn Manning, a fiery exchange developed after Plunket attempted to “wet flannel” the issue of whether the Prime Minister has been truthful over what...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • “Even though my hours are being cut, my rent doesn’t get cut to compens...
    Fast Food = Slow Pay   Lola is a manager at a major fast food chain. Last year her employer arbitrarily cut her hours from 32 hours to anywhere between 18 and 26 hours each week. “I said I can’t...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Hate Politics has no place in NZ Politics
    I wasn’t going to write about Nicky Hagar’s ‘Dirty Politics’.  There are plenty of policy issues to discuss. Then I read the book, and what it reveals strikes at the very heart of our democracy. My overwhelming feeling is one...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Pak’nSave pull adverts from Whaleoil
    Pak n Save have replied to complaints that their adverts were appearing on hate speech site Whaleoil by deciding to block their adverts from appearing on the site. Their reply… Congratulations for Pak’NSave on making this type of ethical stand. They...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Herald Poll – Why the Greens will hit 15%
    The biggest problem for John Key is that there are swathes of National Party voters who are educated and decent people whom will be forced to read Dirty Politics out of intellectual curiosity and will be horrified by what National...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Dirty Politics and Dirty Media
    The Nicky Hager book is mind blowing on so many levels. The revelations of government ministers and their staff colluding with vile and hateful schemers to attack other people, is truly ugly. When the dust settles on the illegalities, immoralities...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • “You just have to keep on fighting” – an interview with Metiria Turei
    We’re meeting in her office. It’s austere, though she does have a nice teapot. The view is startling. One can map the Bowen Triangle, though the teapot is still more interesting. A group of pink faced men are running across...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Taxation and Real Estate – turning housing debate on its head
    The debate about property prices in New Zealand is disingenuous. It is clear that there is a global process in which speculators are using massive amounts of unspent and borrowed money to blow bubbles in the world’s major asset markets....
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Michael Wood – Faith and politics
    In a week which has seen our collective focus shift to those who see politics as a great game to be manipulated for their own ends, it is timely to reflect on the fact that many people are in fact...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Government’s Own Guidelines Show John Key Would Have Been Informed Of SIS...
    Analysis by Selwyn Manning. INFORMATION THAT I HAVE ACQUIRED, sourced from the State Services Commission, states in black and white the tight guideline requirements that must be followed whenever the SIS informs a Prime Minister of any pending release of...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Simply Not Credible: Dr Tucker’s “clarifications” are only making thi...
    THAT DR WARREN TUCKER, Director of the Security Intelligence Service in 2011, agreed to the release of politically sensitive material – thereby intervening in an on-going contretemps between the leaders of the National and Labour parties – without receiving the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: Evidence of Collusion between the NZ Herald and Imm...
    . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the Herald...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Dear Canon NZ – Malevolence should induce revulsion, it shouldn’t be ce...
    Giovanni Tiso’s analysis on Slater is possibly the best in NZ… It’s been a good week for some of us. A week of feeling vindicated, offeeling galvanised. Where it goes from here will depend on several factors, some of which are largely...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • 5AA Australia: After Dirty Politics Can National Provide Stable Government?
    AS WE ALL KNOW New Zealanders and Australians do not like political parties that are unstable, or can no longer assure us that they are able to provide stable government. And the big question for Kiwis as we prepare to...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • SIS letter means it’s over for Key
    It’s over. I may not agree with all of Phil Goff’s positions, but you can’t question his integrity the way Slater did in Dirty Politics and not be deeply concerned that our Secret Intelligence Agency is being used for political...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • who to vote for in Epsom
    who to vote for in Epsom...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • The Rise and Fall of John Key – who will be the next leader of National P...
    . . It was all set to go: Teamkey would be the cult of personality that would do Stalin, Mao, Reagan, Thatcher, or any of the Nth Korean Kim Dynasty, proud.  National and it’s “Teamkey” propaganda strategy   would cash-in Big Time...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Who said Kiwis couldn’t get a fire in their bellies over an arcane intern...
    An amazing team of activists has taken the campaign on the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) to local governments throughout the country. Their latest triumph came last Monday when the Dunedin City Council endorsed a resolution expressing concern about the TPPA...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National’s Dangerous Education Agenda Exposed
    Putting aside the dirty politics coming out of the Beehive and the right-wing blogisphere, there are some very strong signals that another term of a National Government would do even more serious damage to the public education system. The Education...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • We can have clean politics and get our democracy back.
    Something is rotten in our politics and it stinks. Dirty politics has sadly become one of the defining features of this election campaign. In the light of recent revelations about the extent of nasty and disingenuous political strategies, it would...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Book burning copies of Hager’s book? The next generation of National Part...
    It seems we are getting the next generation of National Party Dirty Politics now. There are claims the Young Nats in Hamilton are buying up copies of Dirty Politics and burning them. One witness was contacted by the Waikato Times...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National Party Poetry Day Haiku
    Key’s inbox and Cam’s poison most foul, there he blows hoist by own harpoon...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Why Cunliffe will be the next PM
    David Cunliffe will be the next Prime Minister of NZ. Labour’s inclusive and positive TV adverts… …are in stark contrast to National’s team of white people powering away from the rabble of the ‘others’… …the messaging is vital and crucial...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • From smiling assassin to grumpy butcher – on giving Judith Collins a last...
    After #dirtypolitics Key isn’t the smiling assassin, he is the grumpy butcher. When he said Judith had  a ‘last chance’ he meant 1 second after voting closes on 20th September. Key would love nothing more than to cut Collins loose and end...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • If the National Party rowing advert was real….
    If the National Party rowing advert was real there would be more blood in the water. If the National Party rowing advert was real it would be Cameron Slater calling the strokes. If the national Party rowing advert was real,...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Cameron Slater: Zionist and political pundit
    It is hard to know where to start with right-wing blogger Cameron Slater (Whale Oil), especially after the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics. This confirmed everything many of us thought Slater to be: a snivelling pundit who serves...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Bryce Edwards stood down from Herald for election season??? Are the editors...
    I only found this out via twitter last night and I am still in shock. Bryce Edwards, easily the best critical thinker and news analyst the NZ Herald has has been stood down by the NZ Herald ‘for the election...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • So who’s a “conspiracy theorist” now?!
    . . As the media storm over Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“,  and allegations over smear campaigns continue to swirl,  National’s spin doctors have given Key, Collins, and other National Party ministers a string of  phrases to use in all...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Momentum shift
    When you are deeply immersed in a local campaign sometimes it can be difficult to see the helicopter view.   I don’t know how accurate the political polls are and have always known that things can change quickly in politics...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Dear Toby Manhire. Bad call on backing Farrar
    Oh dear. I say this as someone who regards Toby Manhire as one of the smartest journalists/commentators/columnists this country has, and I think Toby has made a terribly dumb call here. Let’s see if Toby is still singing Farrar’s praises...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Radio NZ apologise to me for getting it wrong
    Radio NZ have contacted me, reviewed the claim by their host that I had an advance copy of Nicky Hager’s book and they have concluded they got it wrong, they have called me and apologised and will make a statement...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Reclaim UoA – Students’ Message to Steven Joyce
    Tertiary Education – we’ve been sold a lemon  A group of 30 students attended an event on Tuesday evening about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which the Minister of Tertiary Education Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Can someone in the media please ask the PM of NZ to categorically deny any ...
    Now we see the MO of Slater & Co, the setting up, the digging for dirt, the use of staff to dig that dirt, can the Prime Minister of NZ categorically deny any National Party staff worked with Cam Slater...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Panic setting in for National as they realise what’s about to happen
    And the terror starts to set in. I’ve never seen blind panic like this before  and it’s spreading as the enormity of what’s about to happen starts to sink in. Hager’s book is a mere entree, Nicky’s personal ethics wouldn’t...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics: what the book ultimately reveals is abuse of powe...
    Guide to the many faces of John Key Nicky’s book is now doing what I suspected it would do, create a shockwave of revulsion. Andrew Geddis over at Pundit Blog sums up this attitude best, and it’s reverberations build with every...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Fancy taking children seriously
    Let’s see why all political parties should pay close attention to the Green Party’s policy for children. First, it is a comprehensive attempt to put children, not ideology, at the heart of family policy. Wow, children at the heart of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Amnesty International: Dear Azerbaijan, Stop Torture, Love Kiwi Kids
    This is a world where many adults often underestimate Generation Y. Being only a few years out of being a teenager myself, I feel I can make this statement with certainty. However, I have been the Youth Intern at Amnesty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GCSB meetings today in Christchurch 1pm at Uni 7pm at Cathedral
    The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. 1pm at Canterbury University bottom floor James Height Building: Chair: Bomber Bradbury Ruth Dyson – Labour Party...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about
    Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Guide to when Key is lying
    Guide to when Key is lying...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The State of the Student Nation …or is just Al...
    Students politics are dead and our student media is in terminal decline. The most disappointing thing about university is the politics, or should I say lack of? I was raised with the idea that students held the power.They were the...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Love Lifts Us Up: Thoughts from the Green Party’s campaign launch.
    Author Eleanor Catton wants people to give their party vote to the Greens.Photo by Peter Meecham NO ONE WAS QUITE SURE how he did it. Somehow Bob Harvey had persuaded the owners of the rights to Joe Cocker’s Up Where...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • The Nation Environment Debate with Amy Adams & Russel Norman
    Lisa Owen: Now, this week's campaign debate. As a handful of islands at the bottom of the world, New Zealand is an environmental treasure, and as Kiwis, we're proud of being clean and greenish. But putting that environment to work...
    Scoop politics | 23-08
  • The Nation: Debate Between Amy Adams And Russel Norman
    Lisa Owen Hosts an Environment Debate Between National’s Amy Adams And Russel Norman From the Green Party....
    Scoop politics | 23-08
  • Travel And Accommodation Determination for MPs Released
    The Remuneration Authority today released its determination covering Members of Parliament New Zealand accommodation, travel services for family members, and travel services for former Prime Ministers and their spouses....
    Scoop politics | 23-08
  • Te Kuiti man imprisoned for images of young children
    A Te Kuiti man caught with pictures of children being sexually abused has been sentenced to ten months imprisonment. Sickness beneficiary Daniel James Parry, 35, appeared for sentence in the Tauranga District Court today (Friday) after pleading guilty...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Japan Maritime Training Squadron visit – Open Day, Band
    • The Japan Maritime Self-Defence Force Training Squadron will make port in Auckland from Wednesday 3 September to Saturday 6 September...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • MP Perk Transparency Needed
    The Taxpayers’ Union is slamming the increase in taxpayer-funded entitlements for MPs and their families published on the legislation website this afternoon . Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Debating the future of Auckland’s housing
    With only weeks until the General Election, Auckland’s mounting housing crisis will be put under the spotlight in an Election Debate hosted by the School of Architecture and Planning at the University of Auckland. The debate’s topic “Market forces...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Let’s sort this out – Human Rights Commission
    A Whangarei woman allegedly censured for greeting customers with Kia ora can get in touch with the Human Rights Commission says Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy. “We really need to resolve these kinds of issues. I had thought that...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Aged Care Association welcomes Labour’s wages policy
    The New Zealand Aged Care Association welcomes the Labour Party’s announcement that if elected, it will raise the minimum wage for aged care workers within its first 100 days in Government....
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Honorary doctorate for Secretary-General of the UN
    An Honorary Doctor of Laws degree is to be bestowed on His Excellency Mr Ban Ki-moon, Secretary-General of the United Nations, by the University of Auckland on Wednesday 3 September, both in recognition of his role as an international statesman...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Surveillance of Mr Upul Jayasuriya
    The New Zealand Bar Association joins the International Bar Association (IBA) and other Law Societies and Bar Associations worldwide over the reported surveillance of Mr Upul Jayasuriya, President of the Bar Association of Sri Lanka....
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Bob Parker, China State Media and Tibet Forum
    Former Christchurch mayor was signed up to position statement without his knowledge; observed “happiness” in Tibet as Tibetan protesters elsewhere shot by security forces...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • “Walk the talk to reduce the wage gap”
    There’s just a few weeks left to convince the candidates of all political parties that reducing the wage gaps makes good sense....
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Digital Currency on the Drawing Board
    Government policies and digital currency ideas and issues will come together at three public workshops next week....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • NZ Cycle Trail welcomes $8 million fund
    Government funding of $8 million to maintain and enhance the Great Rides of New Zealand will help ensure the trails are delivering the best possible visitor experience, says Evan Freshwater, Manager Nga Haerenga The New Zealand Cycle Trail Inc. (NZCT)....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Judges Comments Bonkers – McVicar
    Napier Conservative Party Candidate Garth McVicar is accusing a Judge of forgetting that he is the gate-keeper for the community and not a benevolent caregiver for law breakers. "The comments by this Judge are not just alarming, they're completely...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Oxfam: World must suspend arms sales to protect civilians
    As the New Zealand Government prepares to ratify the global Arms Trade Treaty, and after ceasefire talks collapsed and violence erupted yet again in Gaza yesterday, Oxfam is calling on all states to immediately suspend transfers of arms or ammunition...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Degrees in Picking up Rubbish
    Responding to the Fairfax media report of a University of Otago survey of Wellington’s street-connected walkways, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Another Union row
    “ The teachers union the NZEA is getting ready for another industrial dispute. These disputes now only occur in the government sector. National has no one to blame but themselves” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Whyte: Speech to Grey Power
    National’s failure to increase the age for super and reform health is a threat to every New Zealander’s security....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Local Govt should not go into business
    “No one should take any comfort from the fact that “Infracon”, a roading company in Tararua and Central Hawke's Bay, is to go into liquidation. This puts the future of more than 200 jobs in doubt. ACT sympathises with those...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Join the hikoi to end child poverty in New Zealand
    CPAG is calling on people across society to join a march from Britomart to Aotea Square in Auckland to demand action on child poverty in Aotearoa....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Ngapuhi Chair Says Enough of the Political Sideshow
    Time for side-shows to end so we can focus on future of our nation – Raniera (Sonny) Tau, Chairman, Te Runanga A Iwi O Ngapuhi...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Commissioner of Police v Kim Dotcom And Ors
    An order is made extending the duration of the registration of the restraining orders issued by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia on 10 and 25 January 2012 and registered in New Zealand on 18...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Labour Announcement on Future of Hillside Workshops Welcome
    Labour leader David Cunliffe’s announcement in Dunedin today that a government led by his party would re-open Hillside Railway workshops was welcomed by the Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMTU). ‘Since the workshops were shut down in late...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Primary teachers and principals vote to put kids first
    Teachers and principals have voted overwhelmingly against the Government’s controversial “Investing in Educational Success” policy, including proposed highly-paid principal and teacher roles....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunkett: Educating for Success
    In all the turmoil stirred up by the "Dirty Politics" revelations, the real issues that the campaign should be about have been put to one side....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Dirty Politics – Number One Bestseller and Back in Stores
    An exposé of the hidden side of New Zealand politics, Nicky Hager's book, Dirty Politics , has been in hot demand since its release last Wednesday....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Epsom: profiling NZ’s most controversial electorate
    Welcome to the wealthy inner Auckland electorate of Epsom: home of coat-tailing, the Tea Tapes, a convicted outgoing MP... and heavy newspaper and magazine readership....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Families Free From Violence campaign and website
    We are pleased to announce the launch of our Families Free From Violence campaign and our new Families Free From Violence website. This website has been created to encourage people to take responsibility for ending family violence by seeking help...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • PSA And DHBs Reach Settlement on Five Collective Agreements
    The 20 District Health Boards are pleased to reach settlement via mediation on five Multi Employer Collective Agreements (MECAs) with the Public Service Association for 12,000 mental and public health nurses, allied, public health and technical staff,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Refusal to complete census results in 46 convictions
    Failing to fill out a census form has resulted in the convictions of 46 people, Statistics New Zealand said today....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Council Amalgamations Still Bad Deal
    Northland, Bay of Plenty, and Wellington ratepayers should not be seduced into accepting the amalgamation of their Councils by a recent amendment to legislation allowing for local boards not community boards, Chris Leitch, Democrats for Social Credit...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • DHB industrial action withdrawn
    The Public Service Association (PSA) has withdrawn notices of industrial action covering 12,000 health workers at District Health Boards (DHBs) across New Zealand, after progress was made in mediation....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Aged Care Pledge Needs Better Target, Says Care Agency
    Labour’s pledge to set up an aged care working group to address industry concerns is good to see, but appears to skirt the obvious issue of a looming lack of beds and carers for our rapidly growing elderly population, says...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Social inequality still rife in New Zealand
    Social inequality has worsened over the past decade in New Zealand, a new study from Victoria University of Wellington shows....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Working towards a living wage and more Māori in paid work
    The Māori Party will build on the gains it has already achieved in Government and accelerate job opportunities particularly for young Māori....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Deepwater Group Supports Changes to Catch Limits
    The Deepwater Group says the increase in the Total Allowable Commercial Catch for hoki shows the benefits of a long term commitment to build biomass in this major New Zealand fishery....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Ohariu candidate Sean Fitzpatrick
    “Our Ohariu candidate will be Sean Fitzpatrick. Sean has strong ties to the region and I’m glad to hear he will be doing his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the area,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Tauranga candidate Stuart Pederson
    “Our Tauranga candidate will be Stuart Pedersen. Stuart has strong ties to Tauranga and I’m glad he has agreed to do his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the electorate,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party scores massive own goal
    Green Party scores massive own goal as their own policy auditor criticises their fiscal plan...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party’s own Auditor of their Budget finds it dodgy
    “The Alternative Budget released by the Green's does not even stack up in the eyes of their chosen auditor – Infometrics” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • New shark finning laws fall short for threatened species
    Environmental groups are welcoming some aspects of a raft of law changes announced today in relation to shark finning, but say that overall the chance for New Zealand to catch up with international efforts in shark conservation is being missed....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Promoting Labour’s Positive Policies
    General Secretary of the New Zealand Labour Party, Tim Barnett, today launched Labour’s television advertisements for the 2014 election. The advertisements help tell Labour’s positive story for a better New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug Court: Rare Insight into New Alternative Justice Model
    Māori Television’s latest New Zealand documentary presents a fascinating look inside a new alternative justice model – through the stories of convicted criminals....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Political parties pledge to increase overseas aid
    A survey of political parties looking at how much New Zealand should spend on Official Development Assistance (ODA) shows the overwhelming majority of parties are committed to raising the bar according to the Council for International Development (CID)....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Top Kiwis backing Tip the Scales campaign
    Sir Graham Henry, former All Black Kees Meeuws, singer-song writer Jamie McDell and fishing guru Matt Watson have pledged their support to Tip the Scales, a pre-election campaign generating public support for rebuilding New Zealand’s depleted inshore...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Maritime Union continues to press over dirty politics
    Maritime Union National President Garry Parsloe says Ports of Auckland management is trying to get off the hook from its involvement with extreme right wing bloggers during the Ports of Auckland dispute....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • No end in sight to overwhelming human cost of conflict
    Two ceasefires have brought some respite to civilians in Gaza and southern Israel, amid hope that a durable cessation of hostilities might occur. In Gaza, these breaks in the fighting have barely given people enough time to seek medical care,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Young Kiwi speakers to represent NZ at Gallipoli 2015
    The RSA is delighted at the announcement made by Veterans' Affairs Minister Michael Woodhouse today, that all eight regional finalists of the 2015 ANZ RSA Cyril Bassett VC Speech Competition will be included in a group of 25 Youth Ambassadors...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
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