Unsworth slams Police, Crown Law

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1. Bill 1

   24 November 2012 at 8:43 am

   Here’s the article in the NYT if you’re interested, the one Unsworth is whining at Mike Joy about. Seems like the word is out.

   http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/business/global/new-zealands-green-tourism-push-clashes-with-realities.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
   • ianmac 1.1

     24 November 2012 at 9:52 am

     Criticism like that could be an incentive to clean up our rivers.
     • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1

       24 November 2012 at 10:22 am

       Sure, it could be but what we got was the RWNJs whinging about scientists again. You’d have thought that they’d have learned that that doesn’t work too well when John Key tried the same thing on the Hard Talk interview.
     • David H 1.1.2

       24 November 2012 at 10:39 am

       Could be, should be, But under Key Won’t be.
     • Jenny 1.1.3

       25 November 2012 at 1:48 am

       No they just want the money coined from the image of clean green New Zealand. They certainly are not interested in spending money on caring for the environment. If the reality doesn’t match the hype – cover it up and shoot the messenger.
2. Colonial Viper 2

   24 November 2012 at 8:45 am

   Maybe if we all put our blinkers on like Unsworth recommends, everything will be OK, and tourists won’t notice that half our waterways are putrid.
   • Tigger 2.1

     24 November 2012 at 10:53 am

     I expect ads any day now telling us that pollution is magical poop left by wizards and hobbits and of no danger to anyone.
     • weka 2.1.1

       24 November 2012 at 3:07 pm

       Of course. Saruman had his own PR crew lead by Wormtongue. It never ceases to amaze me that Kiwis forget The Scouring of the Shire. Wake up little hobbits.
     • seeker 2.1.2

       24 November 2012 at 4:48 pm

       Hilarious Tigger. Thanks for giving me a continuous chuckle today. Your comment is up there with Imperator Fish’ and his “Transcript Of Labour Party Caucus Meeting.”

       http://www.imperatorfish.com/2012/11/transcript-of-labour-party-caucus.html

       Thanks too to Irish Bill for his brilliant post which, for me, began some uproarious moments. Nothing like laughter to lift the spirits.
3. Mark Unsworth 3

   24 November 2012 at 9:57 am

   Hi Irish Bill.
   I love a bit of satire .Not quite up to the standard of DimPost but quite funny
   Cheers Mark
   • IrishBill 3.1

     24 November 2012 at 12:47 pm

     Cheers Mark – hope that gout clears up.
   • Dv 3.2

     24 November 2012 at 3:29 pm

     oops that was satire?
     • IrishBill 3.2.1

       24 November 2012 at 3:38 pm

       Probably above your head. I’ll make sure I put a fart joke in the next one just for you.
       • Psycho Milt 3.2.1.1

         24 November 2012 at 5:03 pm

         I also got a fair way into it before realising these were unlikely to be genuine quotes – but that’s more of a reflection on right-wing political lobbyists than on Irish Bill.
4. aerobubble 4

   24 November 2012 at 10:02 am

   Its in the interests of big media to peddle crime stats out of proportion because them it increases fear of crime and so the big media program selectors job becomes oh so much easier, selecting wall to wall crime dramas, police cop shows, its called 1984, the manual for the modern media baron (and his public taxpayer funded counterpart). NZ is not a democratic nation, just look at the dictatorial powers in ChCh, the lack of accountability where the minister for mines gets an effective promotion less work same wages, same title, Minister. Our government, still in rapture over neo-liberalism break it and do away with it governance, is now signing us up to a global free trade scheme that is neither capitalism or empowering to markets but hands away sovereign rights to a few global nexuses of corporate power. Worse, the whole world economy is shifting down a quantum of gears due to peaking and then fast decline of petroleum, and these uber geniuses are hidden away from the light, supping on a now discredited economic paradigm, signing us up to trade terms for the foreseeable future. Free trade as presented is castrated capitalism.
   • Colonial Viper 4.1

     24 November 2012 at 10:06 am

     And don’t forget the looming competition between the USA and China for Pacific resources and economic/political advantage. NZ will be stuck right in the middle of two very powerful adversaries, and we will have to be careful.
     • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1

       24 November 2012 at 10:26 am

       The only solution to that is a declaration of neutrality and building up our defences. But I don’t think either this government or a Labour led government will do that. Instead they’ll continue to try to kiss arse.
       • Colonial Viper 4.1.1.1

         24 November 2012 at 6:58 pm

         In general, agree. However, we’re also a country located at the end of long, imperially sourced and protected supply chains. Some slight and smart measure of kissing arse is going to be necessary.
   • prism 4.2

     24 November 2012 at 6:53 pm

     aerobubble
     Paragraphs please.
5. the sprout 5

   24 November 2012 at 11:46 am

   Unsworth’s email was pretty astonishing. Given its tone and time of sending, i can only assume he was tired and emotional when he sent it.
   • Jim Nald 5.1

     24 November 2012 at 11:52 am

     As Hooton might put it, Unsworth is dramatising.
     Attention seeking on whose behalf and how much this time?
   • One Tāne Huna 5.2

     24 November 2012 at 12:51 pm

     And what was he when he stood by it?

     An odious bully. He could use a dose of his own medicine.

     I wonder how Caltex, British Gas and Air New Zealand like being associated with this bully. Perhaps they need to reconsider their position in the light of Mr. Unsworth’s intemperate and unwise attack on Dr. Joy.

     Perhaps we could help them reconsider.
     • MrSmith 5.2.1

       24 November 2012 at 8:49 pm

       Nice to see Mr Joy drawing another one of the environmental criminals out.

       This guy will be lucky to have a job late next week, he’s let his emotions run away with him in public, this is not the kind of publicity his masters will like I suspect.
       • Jenny 5.2.1.1

         25 November 2012 at 2:02 am

         Indeed. I expect the Greens and Labour will demand vigorously that this corporate thug or any of his associates no longer has access to the corridors of our democracy’s parliament.
     • Jenny 5.2.2

       25 November 2012 at 1:58 am

       I wonder how Caltex, British Gas and Air New Zealand like being associated with this bully.

       One Tāne Huna

       I think that they would consider their money well spent. Not only does Unsworth epitomise the corporate groupthink, he has a personalised swipe card that lets him past the Beehive security to ‘lobby’ any MP he thinks he can manipulate in his paymaster’s interests.
       • One Tāne Huna 5.2.2.1

         26 November 2012 at 4:50 pm

         I wonder how long that will last now Saunders Unsworth are a by-word for drunken bullying.
6. Rogue Trooper 6

   24 November 2012 at 5:05 pm

   Russell Brown’s spin on propaganda 360 degrees
7. Foreign Waka 7

   24 November 2012 at 5:14 pm

   As the farmers increased their output after 1984, so did the run off of nitrogen and the increase in pollution due to an increase from around 3 mil cattle to 4.2 mil Dairy Cows and 5.2 Mil Dairy Cattle. These are 2007 figures, so today’s figures could be higher. Also unnoticed: Deer farming has increased stock from 150 000 to 1.6 Mil. Deer is a pest animal in NZ. Native Forests are invaluable and yet at best only some 20% of NZ land has still coverage.
   It is not difficult to see why the water ways are polluted and why greenhouse emissions have sharply increased. Even if there are no people in NZ this would have happened under the current land use.
   These are facts known by people who are interested in biology, nature etc. However, for a tourist it is more important to have clean water to drink, swim and enjoy whilst tramping especially when on tour with children.
   Perhaps Mr Joy’s timing and use of media outlet can be debated but in the end it will not change perception. Most people outside NZ are aware and do compare environmental records.
8. Michael 8

   24 November 2012 at 6:38 pm

   What a nasty bit of work. He certainly seems to represent the views of “the business community”.
9. tc 9

   24 November 2012 at 6:57 pm

   NZild you’re standing in it.
10. Jenny 10

    24 November 2012 at 11:04 pm

    ‘

    Scientist labeled traitor by influential parliamentary lobbyist.

    Massey freshwater ecologist Dr Mike Joy told the newspaper New Zealand’s “picture perfect” green image is pure fiction.

    Joy’s comments prompted a prominent Wellington lobbyist to label his environmental research as akin to “the foot and mouth disease of the tourism industry” …..

    But Joy said his detractor had taken aim at the wrong target.

    “If he wants to have a go at somebody, he should have a go at those who are polluting our rivers, not the guy researching it,” he said. “I’m pretty disgusted . . . I have been quoted in this article commenting on the state of the environment and people have called me a traitor to this country. I’m just the one doing the research.”

    Joy had been interviewed by a New Zealand-trained journalist writing for the New York Times Company-owned daily International Herald Tribune, and had not realised his comments would be also published in the New York paper.

    However he stood by his comments.

    “I have dedicated my life to trying to save theenvironment . . . to have someone label me a traitor is pretty horrible.”

    “It’s up to independent scientists like me to highlight the real issues because no one else is going to and that is part of my responsibility as an academic.”

    TALIA SHADWELL Fairfax NZ News

    Who are the real traitors to this country, those who pollute New Zealand’s environment and the lobbyists paid by them to pressure MPs to ignore it?

    Or, those who whose duty it is to expose it?

    Is Mark Unsworth the sort of lobbyist that David Shearer gets the idea from, that it is better to be a climate change ignorer than stand up to, the not insignificant pressure that such people exert on MPs?

    For sending defamatory and reputation damaging email attacking Dr Mike Joy, – Parliamentary lobbyist, Mark Unsworth should have his parliamentary swipe card taken off him. If it is not, then a serious complaint needs to be made to parliament and the speaker demanding that this unelected individual’s special privileges to enter our democratic parliament to secretly lobby and pressure MPs, be ended forthwith.
    • Robert Atack 10.1

      25 November 2012 at 12:51 pm

      >Is Mark Unsworth the sort of lobbyist that David Shearer gets the idea from, that it is better to be a climate change ignore than stand up to<
      Yes
      Shearer has Climate Change down at 24th on his list of priorities, is Unsworth pissing in his pocket as well?
      With Shearer promoting more growth via housing etc, clearly David is listening to Mark.
      We are screwed ……. and in 3-5 years we should all realize it.
11. Tim 11

    25 November 2012 at 1:00 am

    FFS people! Look at the state of the guy! Why is this an issue? Why do people give it credibility?! at the outset. Are we (NZers) THAT thick? Makes me want to hibernate – I guess we are that thick – after all we elected Phill Stein es Proim Minsta en BulInglsh es depyadee en Jer es champeen fa De-mockerysee in Kentabree
    • Jenny 11.1

      25 November 2012 at 7:39 am

      We are unsworthy
    • tc 11.2

      25 November 2012 at 7:56 am

      And re elected them so yes we are that thick, can’t wait for the folk of AKL to vote in a RWNJ like fletcher, brewer or the like next super mayor contest. It seems as inevitable as day following night.
      • Jenny 11.2.1

        25 November 2012 at 10:24 am

        Inevitable as Len Brown condoning anti-union attacks on MUNZ by Ports of Auckland.
        • KJT 11.2.1.1

          25 November 2012 at 12:59 pm

          Inevitable as National refusing funding to Auckland as revenge for not voting for Banks and privatization.

          If the pro-privatisation crowd had got in their would have been any amount of funding to make the privatised assets more profitable for the buyers.

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