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Written By: - Date published: 6:30 am, September 10th, 2013 - 163 comments
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The last candidates’ meeting is tonight in Christchurch and that means there’s less than a week to get your vote in.

For those of you who are e-voting (as a good many Standardistas will) the vote is open until the last minute – although leaving it to the last minute is probably not the best plan – but for Labour brethren who are postal voting and who live in some of our more remote areas the time available to have your say is fast closing.

And it is vital you do vote. Getting a say in the leadership has been a long time coming and it has been hard won. And with thousands of members turning out to the meetings it looks like this right is well appreciated. But it all counts for nothing if you don’t close the deal.

It’a a great time to be a Labour member. Make sure you use your vote!

163 comments on “Vote!”

  1. Ad 1

    I voted!

    TRP may well be right that Cunliffe only wins on the second round of voting, but that’ll do me.

  2. Red Blooded 2

    Happily popped my vote in the post yesterday. Great to feel like one tiny voice will join in with others to have such a major impact on the party. May the best candidate win.

  3. amirite 3

    LP members, please vote (or kick) the fuckers in the caucus out.
    Signed,
    Labour Party voter

    • fender 3.1

      Some in the caucus are in their own little world imo, maybe they think they are voting in a new PM without the assistance of the voting public. When I hear the likes of Ruth Dyson on the radio this morning saying she is voting for someone the public want the least I can’t help but think we may end up facing another three long years of ShonKey dictatorship.

      • Hami Shearlie 3.1.1

        All the people who are publicly supporting Grant Robertson are the old deadwood types – Why on EARTH should anybody listen to them?? They only care about their jobs and salaries – they don’t give two hoots for the members of the Party or the wider public who are HURTING!!

  4. Sanctuary 4

    *sigh* still no sign of my ballot papers.

    • IrishBill 4.1

      Ring labour HQ asap to double-check you’ve been sent them. I don’t know if there’s a special vote process if papers are lost/too late arriving but I’m sure they’ll be able to do something.

    • Rod 4.2

      Likewise. Despite Head Office assuring me I meet criteria for voting..and assuring me e-ballot would be sent. Where is it??

      • miravox 4.2.1

        Just a thought – could there be a problem with the spam filter on some email addresses, so the email either goes into the trash folder or is deleted?

      • the sprout 4.2.2

        Have contacted Head Office several times, still waiting

      • chris 4.2.3

        if xtra is your email provider it could be lost in space. They have been having troubles since Friday last week.

    • Clement Pinto 4.3

      I gave them a call on Friday and gave my details. Within an hour they sent me an email to say my membership details were verified and my ballot papers would be posted. This morning I queried if they had posted it yet. The email reply said, they were posted yesterday and should arrive today or tomorrow. Looking forward to my post tomorrow.

      P.S : Do they send e ballot details too when they send the ballot papers by post?

    • Neoleftie 4.4

      I got a prompt reply from labour hq, and stated that’d my voting papers were dispatched and would reach me by Thursday…now who to vote for….hmmm.

  5. the sprout 5

    Still waiting for my papers.
    Anyone read Trotter’s article in the Daily Blog on vote rigging?

    • IrishBill 5.1

      I thought it was silly.

      • lurgee 5.1.1

        Very silly. At least he didn’t inflict any of his awful religious allegories and Eastertide twaddle on us. Though if Cunliffe does lose, I think it might provoke an outburst along the lines of “Sold thirty pieces of silver. Who is the Iscariot in the Labour Caucus?” with the moustache at full dudgeon.

    • Jenny Kirk 5.2

      To those still waiting for your papers – get onto Labour HO straightaway. My understanding is that all papers have been sent out.
      As to the Trotter scenario on vote rigging – I’ve been told its impossible. So don’t worry about that!

      • IrishBill 5.2.1

        It pisses me off because it undermines confidence in the (extremely sound) democratic process party members have fought for. On Labour party matters I put Trotter’s commentary in the same box as all the other non-member analysis – best ignored. This is about Labour members and about showing New Zealanders that we’re a strong democratic party – the tea-leaf reading of pundits outside of the process doesn’t come into it.

        • Tim 5.2.1.1

          Totally agree – and I commented at TDB. Can you imagine the response should anyone be caught trying it on anyway!

        • Richard McGrath 5.2.1.2

          It looks like Labour Head Office couldn’t organise a piss-up in a brewery, to use the old cliche.

          • mickysavage 5.2.1.2.1

            Can’t the right wing send us better trolls than Richard?

            • Richard McGrath 5.2.1.2.1.1

              That’s hilarious, I wasn’t ‘sent’ by anyone. But I was surprised at the ineptitude of a party that supposedly prides itself on the democratic process. And by the look of it, a lot of Labour Party members are also surprised – and dismayed.

          • mickysavage 5.2.1.2.2

            How embarrassing is this? I got caught up in the comment filter because I used the word describing creatures who live under bridges …

    • miravox 5.3

      “Anyone read Trotter’s article in the Daily Blog on vote rigging?”

      It seems to me he’s stirring – poses the question and then answers himself with why it’s unlikely. It was discussed yesterday as well, where CV also states here the process is contracted out to Electionz.

  6. Boadicea 6

    I just heard Gower on 3 News ridicule Cunliffe’s reference to Seddon bring a relation. Had Cunliffe’s press people not documented this in their press packs? Does Cunliffe have press handlers on the road with him?

    • Tracey 6.1

      That says far more about Gower than Cunliffe or his team.

    • Colonial Viper 6.2

      Not included in press packs to ensure that there were no leaks before the Blackball meeting.

      • js 6.2.1

        David Cunliffe proudly mentioned his Richard Seddon link at Saturday night’s meeting so hardly a secret by the time of last night’s Blackball meeting

  7. LynWiper 7

    My voting papers finally arrived yesterday, and I’m a South Auckland Rural Delivery address. I was also getting very concerned as I thought the delay might be due to the fact I’d only just rejoined. I e-voted, which I would encourage, as it was so very easy to do. Exciting times!

  8. Ron 8

    I would encourage all who have not received ballot papers to ring HQ don’t rely on email.

  9. the sprout 9

    Have contacted Head Office several times, still waiting

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      They got back to me pretty quick – a day or two after I emailed a quiz into them; I think they’re just swamped at the minute.

      • Virginia Linton 9.1.1

        A bit concerning they can’t cope with a bit of swamp at such a crucial time.

        • Comrade Coba 9.1.1.1

          Just a friendly reminder that the LP is under funded, under staffed, overworked & rely heavily on volunteers like us rank & file. Please pitch (in) rather than bitch. This is the only way to defeat Nact in 2014. I’ve asked my partner to work for 12 months on the campaign, it means down to one income & cutting our cloth, but hey it’s all worth it if we overthrow the current regime.

          Meanwhile over at the newly purchased 2.4 million dollar National Party HQ, the new renovations are being carried out. The teams of highly paid PR contractors & party pleb’s beaver away in a relaxed style.

        • Stephen 9.1.1.2

          There’s a national conference in November and a by-election coming soon, and both those things need a lot of extra organising. They weren’t exactly slacking off before this happened.

          • Virginia Linton 9.1.1.2.1

            Extra donation in the post!

            • Anne 9.1.1.2.1.1

              Well, it’s going to depend on the caucus. If they decide it doesn’t suit them to have a strong leader with oodles of knowledge and experience and choose yet again to thumb their noses at the membership, then I think you will find there will be few foot-sloggers and little by way of extra donations.

              • Hami Shearlie

                Well I know of two very faithful foot-sloggers who have mentioned voting green if Cunliffe is not elected Leader – Who wants a leader with absolutely zero charisma, who tells big porkies on nationwide tv and is unlikely to inspire anyone, or a leader with a type of charisma which will have us all cringing if he goes anywhere overseas?

            • Comrade Coba 9.1.1.2.1.2

              Nice one VL every dollar helps :)

              • Clement Pinto

                Dollar a day….or….every other day….or…..even every now and then from all Labour supporters would be so good for the party.

  10. Linz 10

    We’ve voted! Yay! I do love democracy. We should never take it for granted.

    • miravox 10.1

      Agree, Linz.

      This is what I joined up for. Congrats all the Labour delegates and whoever else who made it possible for members to have a say in who leads the party. (Although I’m still not sold on the transferable voting system)

  11. Sable 11

    No doubt its Cunliffe who will be victorious. The question remains what this means for Labour and for partners such as the Greens. I hope for the best but suspect the worst.

  12. Wayne (a different one) 12

    The next 12 months are going to be great entertainment as the Labour Party self-destructs in full public view.

    This will be the most un-unified Labour Caucus ever – with much blood letting to come, can’t wait for the show to begin.

    Cunliffe is a two faced liar, full of his own shit and egotistical arrogance, who purports to support the underdog, while the “Rich Prick” lives in absolute affluance in the wealthist suburb in New Zealand – the majority of the caucus despise him.

    Robertson’s a gay, who will not connect with “Waitakere Man” – so whilst he has Caucus’s backing, he wont get the support of the unions or the general public.

    And Jones – well least said, we’ll leave that in the Hotel Room.

    So Cunliffe is your man – good luck.

    Meanwhile, National continue to laugh all the way to their next election victory.

    • Ad 12.1

      Key isn’t laughing. The only name on Key’s lips this morning was Cunliffe.
      You don’t need to understand why – the rest of us do.

    • fender 12.2

      Well it’s rather surprising that the richest prick of them all should become PM at all considering that (a dipshit one) argument.

      • Virginia Linton 12.2.1

        What’s wrong with being rich if you’ve worked hard … I’d say that’s a plus for Cunliffe and his wife. Grant being gay is a red herring. Many people couldn’t give a hoot. If he wins good luck to him. If he doesn’t I hope he and his followers shut the hell up and work for the good of the party and New Zealanders. If they don’t, they have to go or be demoted just as David unfairly was. If David is the leader and screws up they’ll have the last laugh. But I hope he gets his chance as Grant was part of the problem during the Shearer leadership (puppet stringed by Grant and colleagues) and doesn’t in my view deserve to be deputy on that basis alone. Let him spend some time on the back benches and reflect on how he got there. He has some building to do with the membership before he can count on the kind of support David is getting. And why has Shane seemingly gazumped Grant in the popularity stakes? Grant should reflect on that too; doubt much of it is due to his being gay. The difficulty is that some of the long-established MPs who have harmed the party and ignored the membership have considerable experience and skills. They can’t have senior roles in a new lineup on that basis alone but if they put a line in the sand and roll up their sleeves should Cunliffe be the leader, Labour as Opposition would be formidable and has a great crack at winning in 2014.

        • Rob 12.2.1.1

          Virginia

          “What’s wrong with being rich if you’ve worked hard “….. my god you dare write that on The Standard, are you on drugs. Could I have some.

          • framu 12.2.1.1.1

            good one rob – because you know that its all about the amount of money one earns – not the way its earned and how you treat others who earn less is what gets lefties riled up isnt it

            any other stupid shit you want to make up today?

            • Rob 12.2.1.1.1.1

              Wow, so only “lefties” are concerned about the way money is ‘earnt’ and how people are being treated, really , and you say I am making shit up. pffffft

          • Clement Pinto 12.2.1.1.2

            Being rich is not the problem. The problem is being rich AND being a government beneficiary with huge tax breaks, dodging taxes, getting subsidies, exploiting workers, being a sub civilised dishonest human.
            They need to be just and realise that their wealth HAS come from society and from those less wealthy. They have to learn to welcome higher tax rates for higher incomes to give some small fair share back to society. Even Warren Buffet says the wealthy should be taxed more.
            The wealthy need to realise the inequity and unfairness in the ever increasing wage, income and wealth gap and disparity between the top and bottom in society due to the uncontrolled exploitative nature of the free market and capitalist philosophy. They need to find ways to reduce this income gap in society.
            There is another point the wealthy need to consider by looking at what happened in China, Russia, France, India, Cuba etc when the masses rose up and revolted against exploitation. In this electronic age, such ‘revolutions’ can easily start any time anywhere when one least expects it. It is in their own interest for the wealthy to change their selfish uncontrolled capitalist greed and embrace socialist ideas in their philosophy.

    • Boadicea 12.3

      Mr King, you are a bitter person. The issues that torment you are inside you. Get help.

    • Crunchtime 12.4

      Wayne,

      If I would call John Key a two-faced liar, full of his own excrement and egotistical arrogance, would you object?

      Because I suggest it’s far more accurate description of Key than it is of Cunliffe.

    • Delia 12.5

      You got a problem with that Wayne, does it mess with your perception that all Labour supporters are low income or on benefits, well though, many of us are’nt.

      • Wayne (a different one) 12.5.1

        Not at all Delia – its just ironic given all we hear from Labour supporters – “is that rich prick Key only thinks of looking after his own wealth and those of all the other rich pricks in business.”

        Somewhat of a contradiction when your consider Cunliffe’s undoubted wealth and living style.

        Not wealth generated at his own hands, but those of his wife (Cunliffes own words).

        He is recognised as a “lazy prick” by many inside parliament – including some inside the Labour Caucus, as I’m lead to believe.

        • Crunchtime 12.5.1.1

          The difference being that Cunliffe hasn’t come from a currency trading background and worked for a company who helped bring about the very GFC he professed to rescue us from. Cunliffe also talks of social justice and a fair go and jobs for all, something John Key never did. Key just waffled about “time for change”, and did his best to paint Labour in a bad light… oh wait, he’s still doing that.

          • Rob 12.5.1.1.1

            Really Crunchtime , you should do some research on Mckinsey & Company consulting. He worked there for a while didnt he?

            Probably responsible for more corporate restructuring, lay offs , redundancies and worker hardship than any Govt sponsored austerity programme. The ultimate asset downsizers, union busters and off shoring specialists.

            Not the best background for a potential Labour NZ leader I would have thought, but you guys will let that one go through to the keeper.

            • Crunchtime 12.5.1.1.1.1

              Interesting. I see no mention of “McKinsey and Company consulting” in Cunliffe’s work history.

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cunliffe_(politician)

              “As a teenager he won a scholarship to study the International Baccalaureate at the United World College of the Atlantic in Wales. David Cunliffe studied politics at the University of Otago, where he was a member of the Otago University Debating Society, and gained a BA with first-class honours. He worked as a diplomat from 1987 to 1994 and gained a Diploma in Social Sciences (Distinction) in economics from Massey University in 1993. He was a Fulbright Scholar and Kennedy Memorial Fellow at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government and Harvard Business School in 1994 and 1995, earning a Master of Public Administration. He worked as a business consultant with Boston Consulting Group in Auckland from 1995 to 1999.”

              Boston Consulting Group is the same sort of thing as McKinsey, so I guess you mixed up the two organisations… unless you know more than wikipedia.

              The two of them along with Bain are the big three in business consulting. They do downsizing and offshoring to maximise the profits and productivity of the companies they work with. I imagine Cunliffe in his early 30s would have learned a lot from the 4 years he was there before he got the hell out and became a politician instead.

              He could have stuck around, and made well off, although not as well off as Key did with currency trading for more than a decade. But instead he bailed and decided to try to make the world a better place one way or another. I admire him for that.

              • Rob

                Sorry I did mean Boston, apologies. However I would also re-iterate that they a run pretty similar focus. In fact Boston is famous for the BCG matrix that invented the term “cash cow” and defined strategies for exiting dog type product & industry strategies. I do think this is a strange background for a proudly left leader, but thne so is saying all this and living in the most highest price suburb in Auckland.

                • Saarbo

                  Ignorant Rob, Mckinsey tended to be all about cutting costs, mainly labour while BCG worked on adding value through improving capacity utilisation (tended to add Labour). Worked with both, BCG = Awesome, McKinsey = Arseholes.

                  Get your facts right because there is quite a big difference in how the two organisations operate.

                  • Rob

                    “Ignorant” , man you are good at flinging the abuse at people and your pompous approach is grating.

                    I too have worked with both , like many others in the corp world, they are big enterprises. I worked with McKinsey in NZ on a large re-engineering project and yes they were terrible and worked BCG in the states on a major manufacturing re-alignment and they were also terrible.

                    My facts are quite correct. Both consultancies have been involved in many restructures, many lay offs and much manufacturing off shoring, if you think that BCG hasn’t then you are the one with ignorant and naive view.

          • Grantoc 12.5.1.1.2

            Yeah but Cunliffe worked for the Boston Consulting Group, a US based private sector global management consulting firm. The investment banks who created the GFC were/are major clients of BCG (including probably the one John Key worked for – Merryl Lynch I think).

            Cunliffe and Key may have even met in that world in days gone by as like minded colleagues.

            Actually some of Cunliffe’s arrogance may stem from this experience too – because consultants at BCG and McKinsey, another like minded management consultancy, were known for their ego’s and their arrogance and for being mightily overpaid. .

        • framu 12.5.1.2

          you did notice that your description of cunliffe and the description you say labour supporters give to key dont actually match up?

          “He is recognised as a “lazy prick” by many inside parliament – including some inside the Labour Caucus, as I’m lead to believe.”

          so possible, maybe, cant prove it, but a few i think in labour think this? So according to your own statement, most of the group who think cunliffe is lazy arent even in the labour party. Whoop dee do!

          that must explain why key keeps trying to scare us off cunliffe then – he feels threatened by his laziness

          • McFlock 12.5.1.2.1

            lol
            I have a few reservations about Cunliffe, but laziness isn’t one of them by any means.

            Next, Tolley will accuse someone of incompetence.

          • Colonial Viper 12.5.1.2.2

            Cunliffe is “lazy” compared to who? Grant Robertson and Shane Jones? LOL the Righties are desperate as!!!

    • Richard McGrath 12.6

      Cunliffe will really be able to relate to the common man… from his $2.5M home in Herne Bay, where he doesn’t have to mix with the dirt-poor proles.

  13. Demelza 13

    I voted last week, but my husband only got his papers yesterday, online voting is great, it’s interesting that they are saying that people’s minds are still not made up, most people I have talked to have known before going to the meeting exactly who they are voting for and have voted as soon as they have their papers, it’s caucus who are possibly holding out.

  14. Crunchtime 14

    Anyone seen the Daily Blog’s post yesterday about the election being fixed?

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/09/09/is-someone-planning-to-fix-labours-leadership-election/

    • Rich 14.1

      I don’t think Electionz would risk their whole reputation by conniving in rigging an election. Especially for the Labour party, where what happened would never, ever leak.

      • Crunchtime 14.1.1

        Yeah… Just realised the author is Chris Trotter. Someone who paints himself as a poster-child of the Left… but forever paints it in a bad light. He’s the worst advocate for the Left and for Labour in particular I can imagine.

        I’m only going on the many articles I’ve read and opinions on natrad I’ve heard, but to me he seems very self-absorbed and self-congratulatory, and it appears journalism isn’t actually his primary interest.

        • Rhinocrates 14.1.1.1

          As I feel about many commentators: Great diagnosis, dubious prognosis, lethal prescription.

    • js 14.2

      It is a bit concerning that many David Cunliffe supporters appear unwilling to accept any outcome except their man winning. If he doesn’t win then that must be a conspriracy or vote rigging. Meanwhile the three candidates seem pretty genuine that they will back the candidate this new democratic process throws up – so perhaps the members should too. (Although personally I would rather Shane Jones didn’t win)

      • Crunchtime 14.2.1

        Grant Robertson is a representative of the ABC lobby, he has the backing of them, the old guard who continue to back neoliberal policy, Nat-lite, that has scared so many people away from the polls altogether.

        Shane Jones is even worse, he’s a pale blue misogynist with too many skeletons in his closet.

        Both of these candidates are representing the right wing of the party. Robertson makes the right noises about being for workers rights, Jones doesn’t even bother.

        The membership has been backing Cunliffe from the start and I wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t too happy with anyone else. I wouldn’t blame them either.

        • Bunji 14.2.1.1

          Grant Robertson does not represent the “right” of the party, no matter who votes for him.

          I think in Grant and David we have 2 highly intelligent, incredibly hard-working, passionate advocates for the left, with a real commitment to making life better for all NZers, not just the elite. One may be wittier and more affable, the other may have more economic cred, but I’ll be proud to have either of them as my party leader.

          Shane Jones has shown himself to be an excellent showman who can get some voters interested in Labour who aren’t currently.

          There is a diversity of opinion among members, unions and caucus. We have set up an excellent democratic process so all get to have their say – those who have to work with the leader on a day-to-day basis and those who do the ground-work to get them elected.

          I think it’s important that we respect that different people have validly held different viewpoints as to who is best to beat John Key and be the better Labour PM after 2014. That spectrum of viewpoints is both in caucus and among members, albeit in different measure.

          Some of the sledging and making unfounded accusations against rivals to their preferred candidate on here makes for some unpleasant reading – and not all of it is from trolls (be they right or left leaning). Whoever wins on Sunday, the process must be respected.

          I strongly suspect it will be Cunliffe, but if it isn’t, it won’t be because caucus “stole the vote” or any rigging or deals – it’ll be that he failed to convince enough Labour people that he should be leader.

          Whoever does win, we need everyone to unify behind that leader, or like Australia, we’ll see a crippled Labour party beaten, and a Tory reign…

        • Chooky 14.2.1.2

          +1 Crunchtime

      • QoT 14.2.2

        Whereas the Grant Robertson supporters have totally been keeping this fight clean. Remind me which team just lost a member due to comments made WEEKS ago which acknowledged, but did not agree with, the very thing Robertson’s team have been screaming blue murder about for the whole campaign?

    • GregJ 14.3

      I think Trotter wrote it after a few beers at said Pub! :twisted:

      It was rambling, not terribly logical or consistent, ill informed and frankly just a bit pointless. I generally like reading what Chris has to say (whether I agree with him or not) but I don’t think this piece will make it into any compilations of his writing. :-?

    • js 15.1

      That is offensive and puerile on so many levels. Reminds me of the nastiness directed by the angry white male extreme right at Helen Clark.

      • fender 15.1.1

        “That is offensive and puerile on so many levels”

        Feel free to expand on that js.

      • the pigman 15.1.2

        +1 js, and you don’t need to explain just because fender is being obtuse…

        Proudly gave DC my first preference, doesn’t mean I think misrepresenting what GR is is in any way cool. And that would be true of 99.9% of DC-voters, I’d imagine.

    • fender 15.2

      Lol, “cool” picture of a duck and a lapdog.

      Good to see there’s at least one gay person who can have a preference not dependant on the sexuality of a candidate.

      “Good on ya Steve Gray!”
      +1

  15. James Thrace 16

    My problem is that all the gays seem to be sticking together in the party for robertson on nothing more than ‘hes one of us’ The amount of assumptions people make that simply because as a gay member of rainbow labour I’m going to roll over and vote for the faghot is wide off the mark. I just nod and smile and publicly voice support for teh gay one, while knifing him in the back with a 1 for Cunliffe. Of course robertson knows all about the twisting knife and how to wield it.

    It appears that the best candidate to win the 2014 election is drowned out by the love in that at last, a gay PM will take the cake – and eat it all too.

    People forget that just because the house overwhelmingly supported queers getting hitched doesn’t mean the wider section of society supports it too.

    As far as I concerned, grant being gay isn’t a red herring, but a very valuable indication of whether NZ as a whole is actually ready for a gay PM who doesn’t know the pain of childbirth, abortion, or even raising a nuclear family with 2.4 kids because like it as not, thats where the majority of voters reside.

    • Crunchtime 16.1

      It IS a red herring. Sorry. Grant just isn’t the most able candidate. He is a very capable politician who may well be ready for the leadership in 6-9 years, but Cunliffe is the strongest personality of the bunch who has the best direction. That’s why he’s the most popular. Simple as that.

      • gobsmacked 16.1.1

        Crunchtime is right.

        First, “teh gayz” are not voting en bloc for Grant. Just read the comments on this blog for daily evidence of that.

        Second – let’s cut to the chase – suppose Grant was straight, and David C was gay? Ask yourselves who you’d want as leader? Changed your mind? Not me. Not many of us, I reckon.

        Cunliffe is the best available candidate, in this contest. And to hell with TV3 Jonolism.

        • Colonial Viper 16.1.1.1

          Correct. Louisa Wall and Charles Chauvel were both for Cunliffe, for example. Btw voted today. I’m backing David :)

    • karol 16.2

      BS, James.

      I am lesbian and have over the last couple of years, always favoured Cunliffe for leader.

      It’s not about sexuality. It’s about the fact of who is most capable to lead, and, for me, who is least likely to continue following the neoliberal way.

      Robertson lacks ministerial experience, speaks well, but has been too aligned with the old guard neoliberals over the last couple of years.

      He is yet to prove to my satisfaction that he is capable of leading the Labour caucus, and to be PM.

      Robertson does very good speeches, and is clearly pretty smart. But that is not enough.

    • Rhinocrates 16.3

      all the gays… where the majority of voters reside

      So “gays” are the Borg? Well, I’m white (pale blue actually, as Billy Connelly said – it takes weeks of tanning to turn us Scots white), straight, cisgendered male blah blah blah. I won’t vote for my clone, but for the most capable.

      The more precisely one defines any individual, the smaller the group becomes, so David Cunliffe matches matches me on a number of points, but he has a different hair colour (and more of it).

      You call sexuality a red herring, but your post shows an overwhelming concern with it, and as is often the case, you shift your bigotry to “the public”, “the majority” and so forth in a weak attempt to divert attention from your bigotry.

      I’ve never known the pain of childbirth and never will. Presumably, that would make me entirely unsuited to comment on, say, literature, commerce, diplomacy… which is what you’re saying.

      I personally do not support Robertson at all, and that’s because I think that he’s a self-interested party apparatchik and that’s all.

      You should stop hiding behind your disguise of “the public” and say straight out (pun intended) that you hate gays.

  16. js 17

    With such narrowminded, smug and bigoted attitudes as displayed in the above comments I certainly wouldn’t want to be on the same side as any of you Whale Oil wannabees.

    • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 18.1

      Jenny?

      • chris 18.1.1

        yes, unfortunately. I have seen some vindictive bitches in my time but Clare Curran takes the cake. Dog awful woman…

        • Rob 18.1.1.1

          Lol, Ruddliffe

        • Anne 18.1.1.2

          The accusation she actually leveled at others was the very accusation that should be leveled at herself. She’s the one who brought the sexuality of a candidate into public focus – not those to whom she is pointing the finger.

          Clare Curran is not worth a 1000 Jennie Michies. I hope Cunluffe wins and tosses her on the bottom rung of the caucus ladder and leaves her there to sulk and whine until she’s gone in 2014.

          This is the 4th or 5th time she’s done it. Remember her allegation of a few years back? The Greens were “white-anting” Labour she said. Can’t remember the details but they were just doing their job.

          • Anne 18.1.1.2.1

            Clare Curran is not worth a 1000 Jennie Michies.

            Oops I think I’ve got that the wrong way around. :( you know what I mean – must go…

            • karol 18.1.1.2.1.1

              So sorry to read that about Jennie Michie.

              It looks like some in the old guard are not going to let go of their position in the Labour caucus quietly.

              I have no gone from hope to despondency again, and wonder how long it’s going to take to get parliamentary Labour back on track.

              Why is the old guard not listening to the people?

              • Bill

                Been thinking about this…and got to wondering what the acting leader of the opposition is going to do about Clare Curran using twitter for tosh and causing Jennie her position as well as introducing scurrilous disruptions and distractions into the leadership contest when she should have followed set procedure and protocol to air any grievance she might have been feeling?

                I’m guessing the answer could be a fair indicator of what to expect should the chips fall a particular way. Credit to David Cunliffe for being quick off the mark and heading off any need to deal with bullshit distractions. And Jennie, if your reading this, my heart goes out to you.

          • the pigman 18.1.1.2.2

            I got what you meant Anne ;)

            Yeah, that white-anting article was on Red Alert around early-mid 2011 if I recall, drove a lot of people away.

            I think people need to actually go and have a look at Clare Curran’s twitter feed to see how absurd it is – she launches a broadside at other DC-associated people, too.

            Just a witch, and unworthy of the ICT portfolio, so I hope there is a fine Green alternative.

      • Anne 18.1.2

        @ Gormless…..

        Not Jenny of climate change fame. Jenny Michie. Two different people.

  17. Richard Down South 19

    Voted… Cunliffe was my choice, and ill proudly say so

  18. hush minx 20

    I think a number of us are shocked that Jen has been asked to step down, for something that happened before the campaign even started, and where she was quite right to suggest the issue is of concern to some (but not her). What action is Grant taking to pull Clare into line given she complained via twitter rather than using the process the candidates signed up to in terms of code of conduct. Perhaps it’s because he knows Jen hasn’t breached the code but he wanted to stir up trouble anyway?

    • gobsmacked 20.1

      Of course Jenny Michie has done nothing wrong. Presumably DC just wanted to kill the story, though it’s probably gonna do the opposite.

      Just 4 days to go. Eyes on the prize. File away Clare’s comments in that bulging file marked “Curran: Unfit to Govern”, and the leader can deal with her later. Not now.

      • BM 20.1.1

        Yep not very clever by Cunliffe.

        Cunliffe doesn’t seem to be very aware of how his actions and behavior are perceived.
        Sort of leader who will lead you to certain death.

        For example
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvenqcfX1j8

        • Tony Moder 20.1.1.1

          That old video BM no one cares.

          • amirite 20.1.1.1.1

            I found a great one of John Key @ Porirua markets:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTE7EEixKvE

          • BM 20.1.1.1.2

            Yes it is old.
            But, anyway
            Did David really think jumping on the back of a truck and putting on a really bad bro voice was a good idea.?
            Did he not think our darker skinned brothers may have been offended.?
            Not very political astute, does rather open you up for attack

            or

            where he lived was due to his wife lactating, really? wtf, obviously he’d thought about this question and in his mind he considered that a good answer?
            Doesn’t say a lot about his judgement

            or

            the whole debacle surrounding last years conference which lead to his colleagues publicly eviscerating him.

            I get the feeling with David, in his own mind he is so awesome and destined for greatness he doesn’t need to listen to others, he’s got all the answers, hence the reason he’s completely oblivious to way he comes across to other people, someone this great can never be wrong.

            In the game of politics where popularity and knowing how to schmooze is so important, Cunliffe get an F-

            • Pascal's bookie 20.1.1.1.2.1

              “Did he not think our darker skinned brothers may have been offended.?”

              The only people I’ve seen complaining about it also tend to steal enough memes from kiwiblog comments and whaleoil that I have doubts about their sincerity, to be honest.

            • Murray Olsen 20.1.1.1.2.2

              Every WhaleSpew reader would have been highly offended. Diddums.

            • Saarbo 20.1.1.1.2.3

              BM, go to Waitite Rugby Club in Te Kuiti (Cunliffe went to school in Te Kuiti) and you will find dozens of pakeha speaking with a maori accent…its common in the smaller towns where all mix together. Just get over it.

              “Did he not think our darker skinned brothers may have been offended.?”

              Whats this about??? Only pakeha are going to read this on the standard??? Clearly being a rwnj is only the start of your problems, racist wanker.

              • BM

                Being Tangata whenua I found the rich white fella from Herne bay offensive.

                • felix

                  Yawn. Whatevs.

                • karol

                  Gee. You must really be offended by the VERY rich white fella from Hawaii.

                • Saarbo

                  Get out of the city BM, problem with you is you only mix with your own. Get out to small town provincial New Zealand and you will see (hear) why you shouldn’t have been.

                  At the Hamilton husting David Cunliffe spoke beautiful te reo maori also.

      • karol 20.1.2

        Did Jones just make a veiled reference to Curran’s monthly cycle?

        Edit: On 3 News tonight, Jones said:

        “Either the moon in Dunedin was in the wrong phase or she’s casting around for a new job,” says Mr Robertson.

        So Jones gets away with any kind of prejudice (re women, gays, etc) and Jenny Michie gets stood down for answering a question.

      • Neoleftie 20.1.3

        That I agree with…but also that cunliffe is about discipline and disire to create real meaningful expectation of the front members of the party.
        Poor Jenny but bad call from Clare too.

    • lurgee 20.2

      And this from a man who wants to lead the Party of the Workers? Did he hire her on a 90 Day Trial or something? For shame!

  19. James Thrace 21

    Er, if you read, im saying I dont support robertson, him being gay isnt as much of a red herring as its promoted to be as simple truth is he won’t resonate with the majority. Cunliffe is the only one with the goods but its annoying that so many tribal members support him solely because hes one of the gays and hey, good to have a pink leader.

  20. Tony Moder 22

    Yep whats done D.C .is done now its make every action from here in count and get rid of that old guard in caucus and the person of the three that is relying on them as his backstop because nobody else actually wants him as the leader.

  21. Peter Revell 23

    this issue galvanized me to vote, two strong people who speak their mind and act on principle, Go Jenny and David

  22. karol 24

    Why is Robertson talking rent controls for Christchurch only? Why not throughout the country?

    Cost of renting in Auckland is unacceptable.

    • big bruv 24.1

      Karol

      “Why not throughout the country?”

      Lol…would you make it compulsory to belong to a parasitic union as well?

      • karol 24.1.1

        Tell that to the people who can’t afford the going rents.

      • QoT 24.1.2

        What’s a parasitic union? Is it like the parasitic 1% who cream money off society and threaten to take their toys home if we tax them fairly?

        • felix 24.1.2.1

          Damn parasitic unions, if they weren’t making me pay above minimum wages and provide semi-decent conditions I’d be able to afford to buy slaves.

    • Saarbo 24.2

      Yes agree karol, rent controls are a great idea in Auckland also. There needs to a be a driver to reduce the attractiveness of investment housing, CGT will go some way but other initiatives need to be looked at.

    • Neoleftie 24.3

      Well talking to grant on twitter it was “ESP in Chch ” also that it would combine with kiwi build and state house rebuild, implies more market intervention,.
      The left block within labour might have found its voice, it’s only been thirty years, go cunliffe and Robertson.

  23. Clement Pinto 25

    I think Clare Curran has done a great disservice to the Labour party and its image. A very stupid thing to do. She needs to be quietly sent packing at the next candidate selection time.

    • chris 25.1

      If Robertson is serious about uniting the factions within the Labour Party he would have chastised Curran.

      No leadership skills and even less mana…

      • Saarbo 25.1.1

        That is a fair point. Curran’s behaviour is really unfortunate and completely against the spirit of how the 3 candidates are running the competition…he needs to do something.

      • Neoleftie 25.1.2

        She means well in a silly naive amateur way…Robertson is all behind the scenes person I think.

        • chris 25.1.2.1

          There is nothing “well meaning” or “naïve” in Curran’s tweet. Definitely amateurish and petty.

        • miravox 25.1.2.2

          “Robertson is all behind the scenes person I think”

          Yes. Walks in as part of the team when it goes well for those who make the play, and then walks in as the one not involved when the play turns to custard. Make me wonder what Robertson really thinks about anything.

      • Hami Shearlie 25.1.3

        +1000

  24. big bruv 26

    Not sure why so many of the hard lefties here think that the Nats’ are running scared of Cunliffe.

    I desperately hope he wins the Labour party leadership, if two thirds of the Labour caucus have worked out that the man is odious then I don’t think it will take the public long to work that out for themselves.

    Please let it be Cunliffe, he and only he can assure the Nat’s of at least one more term.

  25. amirite 27

    It was great to see a good, interesting, civilised campaign for the Party leadership. The only tarnish was coming from a few party unfaithful and the media, desperate to find some shit to stir. It says more about them, than the candidates themselves.

    I doubt the Nats would’ve ever been able to pull a campaign like that, not in a million years. They simply don’t get the meaning of the word ‘democracy’.

    I hope we’ll see the last of Key in 2014.

    Signed,
    a life-long Labour voter (not a Party member).

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    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Labour committed to a healthier NZ for all
    A Labour Government will shift the focus of the health system from narrow targets and short term thinking to make public health and prevention a priority, Labour’s health spokesperson Annette King says. Releasing Labour’s full Health policy today she said...
    Labour | 15-08
  • Time Key took responsibility for Collins
    It is well past time for John Key to take some responsibility for the misuse of power and information by his Minister Judith Collins, and follow through on his last warning to her, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “The evidence released...
    Labour | 14-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this!
    I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this weird spear tackle from behind by his own company. I was listening to this interview at the time, and the awkwardness of it must be the worst...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Is it weird Radio NZ ban me yet still have….
    Is it weird Radio NZ ban me for life because I criticised the Prime Minister yet still have Matthew Hooton, David Farrar and Jordan Williams, 3 of the main protagonists revealed in Dirty Politics as part of their ongoing political...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Christchurch GCSB meeting – why mass surveillance matters in 2014
    This is the video for last weeks GCSB meeting in Christchurch. Don’t forget Nicky Hager’s public meeting Wednesday night in Auckland, TDB will live stream the event in the interests of our democracy. Broadcast starts 7.30pm here on TDB....
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Assange, Greenwald to appear at Town Hall meeting? + KDC is not the hacker ...
    Wikileaks founder and the engineer of revealing some of the largest abuses of power in the modern era, Julian Assange, is rumoured to be appearing at the September 15th Town Hall meeting. Assange would join award winning investigative journalist Glen...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Why Paula Bennett will be the next leader and Hooton throws the Prime Minis...
    I don’t think the public have any idea of the behind the scenes meltdown now occurring within National. There are plenty of decent right wingers who all have ethical standards who have looked at what their leaders have been doing and...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – That Awkward Feeling When Your Campaign Goe...
    Urgh. It’s a thankless and nearly impossible task politically firefighting some days. Somebody (who isn’t you, but who’s in your care, or whom you’ve got a close professional relationship with) does or says something stupid; somebody from the Media’s there...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Dirty politics goes viral
    Join the latest social networking craze this election that every Dog Cat and Jabba is putting on their facebook pages.     Joe Trinder – Ngāti Awa Born and born in Ōtepoti Ōtākou, Ex RNZN he is an Information Technology...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Blogwatch: An open letter to David Farrar: Please, be that guy
    Dear David, In light of  Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics, you wrote a blog entitled ‘Some changes on Kiwiblog’ and you suggested it was time to tighten up ship on your website, saying “I want to improve trust in myself,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • What The Hell Was That! Reflections on the media’s coverage of the Intern...
    WHAT, EXACTLY, DO WE KNOW about the confrontation outside Internet-Mana’s campaign launch? Well, we know the news media was there in force. We also know Internet-Mana’s media person, Pam Corkery, blew her stack. We know that Corkery’s outburst led the...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • NZ First candidate – homophobic, bennie bashing anti-intellectual clown
    Oh God, apart from Ron Mark, Tracey Martin, Curwen Rolinson and Winston before midday, the woeful cavalcade of political circus freaks NZ First seem to attract has picked up another hitchhiker. This time Epsom candidate Cliff Lyon who said this about Labour… “If...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Nicky Hager Public Meeting LIVESTREAM on The Daily Blog 7.30pm Wednesday 27...
    As part of our commitment to the 2014 Election debate, The Daily Blog will Livestream the Nicky Hager public meeting in Auckland, 7.30pm live from the Mt Eden War Memorial this Wednesday on this site. Doors open at 7pm. It...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Opening Night. It’s like an opera!
    On Saturday night just gone, we collectively experienced one of the premier panegyrys of political pageantry in our three yearly electoral cycle. For one glorious weekend evening every three years, it’s not the All Blacks or some Super 14 team, or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Unions – what ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Timor-Leste’s Parliament handed ‘humiliating’ defeat over harsh media...
    East Timorese journalists raise their hands to approve the Timor-Leste JournalistCode of Ethics in October 2013. Photo: Tempo Semanal/Cafe Pacific   David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. PACIFIC SCOOP reported this week that East Timor’s Appeal Court had scrapped...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • THIS is why we need a public broadcaster!
    The richest 20% of us in NZ own 70% of the wealth, with 18% in the hands of the second richest quintile, and 10% in the hands of the middle quintile. Just 2 per cent was owned by people in...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • A vote for Key is a vote for this
    A vote for Key is a vote for this...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Why the Secret Intelligence Service feeding Cameron Slater information is s...
    Folks, it doesn’t matter if you are Right or Left, the issue of the Secret Intelligence Service being forced to feed a far right hate speech merchant like Cameron Slater with sensitive information is an ‘us’ issue. The SIS are...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • How lost and irrelevant are ACT?
    So ACT had it’s ‘launch’. Well, what passes as an ACT launch these days. Lot’s of anorak’s with that 1000 yard star and dreams of a Milton Friedman Free Market dancing behind their eyelids all crammed into a room small...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Party rowing advert aimed at Gen Xers
    Unkind wags such as myself would suggest that if the above were a real representation of National, it would look more like this…   National know they have the rural mob and the angry provincial vote locked in, with their...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • The boldest, most creative and dynamic policy on employment for two generat...
    If you watched TV news last night you could be forgiven for thinking that a circus was on when Internet MANA launched its election campaign today. The reporting was abysmal but I won’t rehash it here because it’s been described...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Call for Aaron Bhatnagar’s resignation from govt body
    .   . One of the many sordid “bit”-players in Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“, and one of Cameron Slater’s inner-cabal, is businessman, National Party card-carrying cadre,  and former city councillor, Aaron Bhatnagar; . . In 2008, Bhatnagar was caught...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Internet MANA announce free tertiary education & full employment – me...
    Internet MANA launch their campaign after an extraordinary road tour and after gaining 4% in the Colmar Brunton Poll, today should have been the start point for a momentous occasion  in progressive political history. It was, but sadly most won’t...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Privilege denies true representation of disability rights
    The human right of people with disabilities in New Zealand has come back into the spotlight by the Human Rights Commission. The report named ‘Making Disability Rights Real’ highlights some of the main issues as being adequate data collection, accessibility,...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Election TV campaign ads – Opening Night
    . .The infamous National Party ‘Dancing Cossacks’ Attack advert  NZ, 23 August -  The election campaign “kicked off” on Saturday evening, with a one hour “televisual feast”. Party advertisements were broadcast for National, Labour, Greens, NZ First, United Future/Peter Dunne,...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Blogging vs Journalism vs Politics – The 7 latest revolting revelations
    So we now enter the most dangerous phase for National, the phase where the minutia of detail is so great now, the media have all the ammunition to keep asking questions that clearly show Key isn’t being honest in his...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • A positive story of political co-operation!
    .   . Wellington, NZ, 23 August - The following is a true story and shows how the natural inclination of the rank-and-file of our main left-wing parties is to work together… I’ve been in contact with both the Green...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • “Dirty Politics” – the fall-out continues…
    . . As the shock-wave from Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics” continues to engulf everything in it’s path, it’s worthwhile looking at the damage caused by the ever-expanding fallout… Fallout Dispersal Zone: 1oom Farrar wrote on 19 August  (and later...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • #TeamKey’s sinking boat
    #TeamKey’s sinking boat...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Cat vs Key – I know nuffin
    Cat vs Key – I know nuffin...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Israel’s sudden fixation with Hamas
    Israel’s sudden fixation with Hamas...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • A Matter of Whether John Key is Credible
    Headline: A Matter of Whether John Key is Credible Analysis by Selwyn Manning. Prime Minister, John Key.WITHIN NATIONAL’S STRATEGY TEAM there is an acceptance that the facts revealed in the book, Dirty Politics, is chewing away at the party’s popular...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • TDB Political Diary for 2014 Election
    Here are the political events TDB will be covering this election. I will be live tweeting these events and  blog reviews will follow the next day. Internet MANA launch – August – Sunday 24th – 1pm, Western Springs School Green...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • One man’s struggle to find a copy of Dirty Politics
    I’m typing this on top of Dirty Politics.  I got the last copy yesterday morning at the local branch of a chain bookshop.  I was really in to get the paper.  I know it sold out – everyone knows - but the first thing...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • From Tucker to Key – while you were out
      From Tucker to Key – while you were out...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Amnesty International – Justice is not Blind in Ferguson
    When a US cop pulls a gun on an unarmed man, he could be acting upon a series of impulses that have been formed since before he or she could talk. What does that police officer see in front of...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Putting an end to zero-hour contracts in 2015
    All around the world attention is being drawn to what have been dubbed in the UK “zero-hour contracts”. These are contracts that don’t have any guaranteed hours even though the worker may be regularly employed. Unite Union has been struggling...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • NZ’s Foreign Aid: The Party Policies Compared
    For the past two elections, I’ve cast my vote based on a single question, which party promises to give the most money in foreign aid? I grant that this is a fairly narrow and simplistic lens through which to judge...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Steering By The Real: Chris Trotter responds to Paul Buchanan
    WHEN ACADEMICS take to blogging the rest of us best be careful. And when they offer comment on the subject of dirty politics we should all pay attention. I will always remember my history lecturer, Dr Michael Cullen’s, confident dismissal...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Toke the Vote 2014: NORML’s guide to NZ cannabis policies
    NORML’s policy, renewed at our recent national conference , is to encourage supporters to vote for parties and candidates who will work to reform our cannabis laws....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Internet Mana List Embodies Modern Aotearoa
    An impressive mix of personal and professional skills, cultural backgrounds and ages marks the release of Internet MANA’s combined party list. “Our list highlights the calibre of talent woven throughout Internet MANA,” said leader Hone Harawira....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • The Dirty Politics Fallout
    Tonight’s 3News-Reid Research poll shows that the Conservative Party is on the verge of making it into the next Parliament, even without an electorate deal with National. The poll, conducted in the week following the release of Nicky Hager’s...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te reo Māori trending at New Zealand Fashion Week
    Language and fashion express culture and identity so it’s fitting for the Māori Party to launch its te reo Māori policy at New Zealand’s premiere fashion event in Auckland....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Party And Candidate Lists for 2014 Election Released
    The Electoral Commission has released the nominations for the 2014 General Election, with 15 registered political parties and 554 candidates contesting the election....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Take Steps Against Child Poverty with Us!
    TAKE STEPS AGAINST CHILD POVERTY WITH US! Britomart to Aotea Square, Auckland, 11am, Saturday 6 Sept Music * Interactive Art * Stilt Walkers * Great Speakers * Plus more!...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Leading politicians to debate NZ’s role in the world
    Have you ever wondered where New Zealand stands when it comes to issues beyond our borders? Join Amnesty International's North Shore Group on Monday 1 September for a lively cross party debate and the chance to find out the answer...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Political Debate on Family Violence – Livestream
    The Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence is happy to announce the upcoming political debate on Family Violence chaired by Professor Nicola Atwool of the University of Otago. Family Violence is a huge problem in our community and we invite representatives...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Politicians ignore 20% of New Zealanders
    Despite 20% of New Zealanders supporting it, none of the parties currently represented in Parliament endorse the legalisation of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Company tax rates
    The Op Ed pages of the left-leaning New York Times are full of articles by economists supporting proposals to dramatically lower Company Taxes. These economists are urging the United States to lower company taxes and point to Canada where the...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Stephen Dudley Case: No appeal or review of discharge
    On 8 August 2014 Crown Law received a request from the office of the Auckland Crown Solicitor to consider a Crown appeal against the discharge without conviction entered in respect of M in the High Court at Auckland on 7...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Dudley Family Statement
    “We are utterly devastated at the news regarding the law not allowing for this unjustified discharge without conviction to be appealed....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Chief Judge: Chief Sized Offender Bias
    “Justice by name, not by nature” states Ruth Money Sensible Sentencing Trust National Spokesperson, of Justice Helen Winkelmann’s decision to discharge without conviction the offender charged with the fatal attack on 15 year old schoolboy Stephen...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Confusion over BPS Reducing Crime and Reoffending Results
    A survey has revealed widespread confusion – even amongst professionals in the justice sector – about what the government’s reducing crime and reoffending progress reports actually mean....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Commission condemns violent attack on Gay Wellingtonians
    The Human Rights Commission has condemned a violent attack on staff and patrons at a gay bar in central Wellington last Friday. GayNZ reported that the alleged attackers were abusive and violent when they realised the bar and the people...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • One down, 12 to go says Community Housing Aotearoa
    The Waimahia Inlet is a step in the right direction for community housing to deliver 20% of New Zealand’s social and affordable housing by 2020, says Community Housing Aotearoa. CHA Director Scott Figenshow says the sector has been set a...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Research considering changes to pedestrian crossing laws
    A University of Canterbury research project has been considering the costs and benefits of a range of potential changes to pedestrian crossing laws that would bring New Zealand in line with the rest of the world....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Dairy farmers and consumers at risk from unapproved GE Grain
    The Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) must immediately test all maize and soy for presence of unapproved GE lines coming from the Americas....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • NZ on Air Refuse to Condemn “Kill the PM” Song
    New Zealand On Air has refused to condemn @peace’s 'Kill the PM' song, and will not provide any assurance that no further taxpayer money will be used to support groups that promote violence and political hate. Earlier today the Taxpayers’...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • iPredict Ltd 2014 Election Update #32
    The combined wisdom of iPredict’s 8000 registered traders suggests National has begun a recovery after its prospects crashed last week following the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics . The governing party’s forecast party vote is back...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Juicy carrot for prisoners alarming suggestion – McVicar
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar says the public will be alarmed to learn that the only tool the Corrections Department has available to get prisoners to behave is to offer them a juicy carrot....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Panel: Fiji’s Return to Democracy
    Fiji’s post-coup elections and their impact in the Pacific o What is the role of the media in the Elections? o How might New Zealand help Fiji on its return to democracy?...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Cross-party consensus on climate change critical
    Senior NZ health professionals welcome recent policy announcements on climate change by major political parties, saying cross-party consensus is critical to address this leading health issue....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Minister of Transport to Attend Election Debate Tomorrow
    Organisers of tomorrow night's transport debate in Auckland are delighted that Minister of Transport Hon. Gerry Brownlee will now be attending....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Society Applauds Proposed NZ-Wide Risk Assessment
    The Wise Response Society is heartened to see that Labour' just released Climate Change policy includes formal support for the Society's call for a New Zealand-wide Risk Assessment. The Green Party has also formally acknowledged support for the Wise...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Iwi Leaders welcome Labour policy on climate change
    Labour’s policy to stamp out price – gouging by big polluters that has cost New Zealand tax-payers $1.4 billion over the last 3 years and especially impacted low – income Maori households has been welcomed by Dr. Apirana Mahuika, Chairman...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Auckland Broadcasting Debate this Sunday
    Auckland Broadcasting Debate 6.30pm, August 31st 2014 (doors open 6.15pm) Pioneer Women's Hall High Street, Auckland City...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • New Zealand First Party List 2014
    New Zealand First is pleased to release the Party list for the 2014 election. We believe the list is a balance of experience, youth, skill and ability. These candidates, many of whom will be in Parliament after the election, will...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Refugee Policy in Election Year
    Leading politicians representing major political parties will be highlighting their policies, answering questions and ebating the issues in the lead-up to the coming election in an event organised by RCNZ this coming Saturday in Auckland. The present...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Intueri shareholders celebrate corporate welfare
    New Zealand's largest tertiary education company Intueri, which announced a $1.6 million profit yesterday, has received an increase in public funding over the last two years of at least $1.8 million....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Response to “Kill The PM” Song Coverage
    I do not want to literally kill this man. I do not wish to have sexual relations with anybody related to him. Let's not pretend a silly little song ever changed anything. Last I seen famine was still going pretty...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Sarjeant Gallery redevelopment resource consent approved
    Mayor Annette Main has welcomed the granting of resource consent for the Sarjeant Gallery Te Whare o Rehua Whanganui redevelopment project....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • How much tax does PM pay compared to a minimum wage worker?
    John Minto, MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson Tuesday 26 August, 2014 MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage...
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Aucklanders to March in Solidarity with Iraqi Christians
    Hundreds of people are expected at a march this weekend in Auckland's Queen St, calling for solidarity with persecuted minorities in Iraq....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Why not let Robin Hood help our children thrive?
    Why have we been so willing to accept the fact that a quarter of our children live in poverty? And why are we so unwilling to do anything about it when some simple measures would give all New Zealand’s kids...
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Te Mana o Te Wai – the quality and vitality of water
    The Māori Party intends introducing legislation that gives the status of taonga to freshwater and will prioritise the improvement of its quality and vitality making it safer for drinking, swimming and gathering food....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • “Kill the PM” Band @Peace with Taxpayers’ Money
    Responding to the Fairfax article that hip-hop group @peace have released a track that threatens to kill the Prime Minister and have sex with his daughter, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • New Zealanders are right to be afraid of burglars
    “A poll in a major morning newspaper shows New Zealanders are afraid they will be burgled. They are definitely right about that,” said Dr. Jamie Whyte ACT Leader. “Official Police statistics report less than half of the burglaries that actually...
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • National and Labour to outline economic visions
    The deputy leaders of National and Labour will outline their visions for the New Zealand economy in two upcoming public lectures hosted by Victoria University of Wellington....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Objectionable Hip-Hop Song Offensive to All NZ’ers
    Family First is slamming Auckland hip-hop crew @peace for their new release containing lyrics that threaten to kill Prime Minister John Key and have sex with his daughter....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Maori party Candidates Announced
    Maori Party Candidates Announced The Māori Party has today announced its list of 24 candidates to contest the 2014 General Election. "The list is headed by our co-leader Te Ururoa Flavell, and followed by two brilliant young candidates, number...
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Commercial Industry Opposes Recreational Fishing Policy
    Press release from Alan Simmons. United Future Outdoors spokesperson and Candidate for Taupo. United Future Party President....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Statement on William Yan
    The Internet Party has noted published comments from Mega Ltd. about a shareholding in the company being subject to a Restraining Order by police under the Criminal Proceeds (Recovery) Act in relation to Mr William Yan....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Conservatives will abolish Parole – McVicar
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman says that one of his first tasks when he gets to Parliament will be to overhaul the Parole system. On current polling and the fact he is ranked No 3 on the Conservative Party list...
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • ONE News & Facebook – Election Coverage Collaboration
    Auckland - ONE News and Facebook are collaborating to offer an interactive and social experience for the 2014 General Election utilising data insights and trends. This collaboration provides a new way for the electorate and candidates to share their...
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Vote Compass Reaches 200,000+ Respondents
    On Friday 22 August the total number of respondents to Vote Compass reached an impressive 200,000 - and that number continues to grow rapidly (the total was more than 204,500 as of 5.00pm Sunday 24th)....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Climate Policies Commit to Single Most Important Reform
    Labour’s response to climate change includes the single most important reform required - a Carbon Budgeting process and a Climate Commission to drive it....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Foodies come out for a CAN DO government
    Wellington culinary celebrities will be joining the call for a “can-do government” and supporting “can-do people getting out to vote” as they help build the beehive out of cans tomorrow....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Nicky Hagar – Auckland Public Meeting
    A public meeting meeting with Jesson Prize winner Nicky Hagar will be held Wednesday 27th August, 7.30pm, at the Mt Eden War Memorial Hall (Cnr Dominion Rd & Balmoral Rd)....
    Scoop politics | 25-08
  • Remote Pacific atoll challenge lures Christchurch planner
    How do you come up with an urban development plan for a city which consists of tiny islets connected by causeways located in a remote Pacific atoll and subject to flooding on the next king tide?...
    Scoop politics | 25-08
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