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Written By: - Date published: 6:30 am, September 10th, 2013 - 163 comments
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The last candidates’ meeting is tonight in Christchurch and that means there’s less than a week to get your vote in.

For those of you who are e-voting (as a good many Standardistas will) the vote is open until the last minute – although leaving it to the last minute is probably not the best plan – but for Labour brethren who are postal voting and who live in some of our more remote areas the time available to have your say is fast closing.

And it is vital you do vote. Getting a say in the leadership has been a long time coming and it has been hard won. And with thousands of members turning out to the meetings it looks like this right is well appreciated. But it all counts for nothing if you don’t close the deal.

It’a a great time to be a Labour member. Make sure you use your vote!

163 comments on “Vote!”

  1. Ad 1

    I voted!

    TRP may well be right that Cunliffe only wins on the second round of voting, but that’ll do me.

  2. Red Blooded 2

    Happily popped my vote in the post yesterday. Great to feel like one tiny voice will join in with others to have such a major impact on the party. May the best candidate win.

  3. amirite 3

    LP members, please vote (or kick) the fuckers in the caucus out.
    Signed,
    Labour Party voter

    • fender 3.1

      Some in the caucus are in their own little world imo, maybe they think they are voting in a new PM without the assistance of the voting public. When I hear the likes of Ruth Dyson on the radio this morning saying she is voting for someone the public want the least I can’t help but think we may end up facing another three long years of ShonKey dictatorship.

      • Hami Shearlie 3.1.1

        All the people who are publicly supporting Grant Robertson are the old deadwood types – Why on EARTH should anybody listen to them?? They only care about their jobs and salaries – they don’t give two hoots for the members of the Party or the wider public who are HURTING!!

  4. Sanctuary 4

    *sigh* still no sign of my ballot papers.

    • IrishBill 4.1

      Ring labour HQ asap to double-check you’ve been sent them. I don’t know if there’s a special vote process if papers are lost/too late arriving but I’m sure they’ll be able to do something.

    • Rod 4.2

      Likewise. Despite Head Office assuring me I meet criteria for voting..and assuring me e-ballot would be sent. Where is it??

      • miravox 4.2.1

        Just a thought – could there be a problem with the spam filter on some email addresses, so the email either goes into the trash folder or is deleted?

      • the sprout 4.2.2

        Have contacted Head Office several times, still waiting

      • chris 4.2.3

        if xtra is your email provider it could be lost in space. They have been having troubles since Friday last week.

    • Clement Pinto 4.3

      I gave them a call on Friday and gave my details. Within an hour they sent me an email to say my membership details were verified and my ballot papers would be posted. This morning I queried if they had posted it yet. The email reply said, they were posted yesterday and should arrive today or tomorrow. Looking forward to my post tomorrow.

      P.S : Do they send e ballot details too when they send the ballot papers by post?

    • Neoleftie 4.4

      I got a prompt reply from labour hq, and stated that’d my voting papers were dispatched and would reach me by Thursday…now who to vote for….hmmm.

  5. the sprout 5

    Still waiting for my papers.
    Anyone read Trotter’s article in the Daily Blog on vote rigging?

    • IrishBill 5.1

      I thought it was silly.

      • lurgee 5.1.1

        Very silly. At least he didn’t inflict any of his awful religious allegories and Eastertide twaddle on us. Though if Cunliffe does lose, I think it might provoke an outburst along the lines of “Sold thirty pieces of silver. Who is the Iscariot in the Labour Caucus?” with the moustache at full dudgeon.

    • Jenny Kirk 5.2

      To those still waiting for your papers – get onto Labour HO straightaway. My understanding is that all papers have been sent out.
      As to the Trotter scenario on vote rigging – I’ve been told its impossible. So don’t worry about that!

      • IrishBill 5.2.1

        It pisses me off because it undermines confidence in the (extremely sound) democratic process party members have fought for. On Labour party matters I put Trotter’s commentary in the same box as all the other non-member analysis – best ignored. This is about Labour members and about showing New Zealanders that we’re a strong democratic party – the tea-leaf reading of pundits outside of the process doesn’t come into it.

        • Tim 5.2.1.1

          Totally agree – and I commented at TDB. Can you imagine the response should anyone be caught trying it on anyway!

        • Richard McGrath 5.2.1.2

          It looks like Labour Head Office couldn’t organise a piss-up in a brewery, to use the old cliche.

          • mickysavage 5.2.1.2.1

            Can’t the right wing send us better trolls than Richard?

            • Richard McGrath 5.2.1.2.1.1

              That’s hilarious, I wasn’t ‘sent’ by anyone. But I was surprised at the ineptitude of a party that supposedly prides itself on the democratic process. And by the look of it, a lot of Labour Party members are also surprised – and dismayed.

          • mickysavage 5.2.1.2.2

            How embarrassing is this? I got caught up in the comment filter because I used the word describing creatures who live under bridges …

    • miravox 5.3

      “Anyone read Trotter’s article in the Daily Blog on vote rigging?”

      It seems to me he’s stirring – poses the question and then answers himself with why it’s unlikely. It was discussed yesterday as well, where CV also states here the process is contracted out to Electionz.

  6. Boadicea 6

    I just heard Gower on 3 News ridicule Cunliffe’s reference to Seddon bring a relation. Had Cunliffe’s press people not documented this in their press packs? Does Cunliffe have press handlers on the road with him?

    • Tracey 6.1

      That says far more about Gower than Cunliffe or his team.

    • Colonial Viper 6.2

      Not included in press packs to ensure that there were no leaks before the Blackball meeting.

      • js 6.2.1

        David Cunliffe proudly mentioned his Richard Seddon link at Saturday night’s meeting so hardly a secret by the time of last night’s Blackball meeting

  7. LynWiper 7

    My voting papers finally arrived yesterday, and I’m a South Auckland Rural Delivery address. I was also getting very concerned as I thought the delay might be due to the fact I’d only just rejoined. I e-voted, which I would encourage, as it was so very easy to do. Exciting times!

  8. Ron 8

    I would encourage all who have not received ballot papers to ring HQ don’t rely on email.

  9. the sprout 9

    Have contacted Head Office several times, still waiting

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      They got back to me pretty quick – a day or two after I emailed a quiz into them; I think they’re just swamped at the minute.

      • Virginia Linton 9.1.1

        A bit concerning they can’t cope with a bit of swamp at such a crucial time.

        • Comrade Coba 9.1.1.1

          Just a friendly reminder that the LP is under funded, under staffed, overworked & rely heavily on volunteers like us rank & file. Please pitch (in) rather than bitch. This is the only way to defeat Nact in 2014. I’ve asked my partner to work for 12 months on the campaign, it means down to one income & cutting our cloth, but hey it’s all worth it if we overthrow the current regime.

          Meanwhile over at the newly purchased 2.4 million dollar National Party HQ, the new renovations are being carried out. The teams of highly paid PR contractors & party pleb’s beaver away in a relaxed style.

        • Stephen 9.1.1.2

          There’s a national conference in November and a by-election coming soon, and both those things need a lot of extra organising. They weren’t exactly slacking off before this happened.

          • Virginia Linton 9.1.1.2.1

            Extra donation in the post!

            • Anne 9.1.1.2.1.1

              Well, it’s going to depend on the caucus. If they decide it doesn’t suit them to have a strong leader with oodles of knowledge and experience and choose yet again to thumb their noses at the membership, then I think you will find there will be few foot-sloggers and little by way of extra donations.

              • Hami Shearlie

                Well I know of two very faithful foot-sloggers who have mentioned voting green if Cunliffe is not elected Leader – Who wants a leader with absolutely zero charisma, who tells big porkies on nationwide tv and is unlikely to inspire anyone, or a leader with a type of charisma which will have us all cringing if he goes anywhere overseas?

            • Comrade Coba 9.1.1.2.1.2

              Nice one VL every dollar helps :)

              • Clement Pinto

                Dollar a day….or….every other day….or…..even every now and then from all Labour supporters would be so good for the party.

  10. Linz 10

    We’ve voted! Yay! I do love democracy. We should never take it for granted.

    • miravox 10.1

      Agree, Linz.

      This is what I joined up for. Congrats all the Labour delegates and whoever else who made it possible for members to have a say in who leads the party. (Although I’m still not sold on the transferable voting system)

  11. Sable 11

    No doubt its Cunliffe who will be victorious. The question remains what this means for Labour and for partners such as the Greens. I hope for the best but suspect the worst.

  12. Wayne (a different one) 12

    The next 12 months are going to be great entertainment as the Labour Party self-destructs in full public view.

    This will be the most un-unified Labour Caucus ever – with much blood letting to come, can’t wait for the show to begin.

    Cunliffe is a two faced liar, full of his own shit and egotistical arrogance, who purports to support the underdog, while the “Rich Prick” lives in absolute affluance in the wealthist suburb in New Zealand – the majority of the caucus despise him.

    Robertson’s a gay, who will not connect with “Waitakere Man” – so whilst he has Caucus’s backing, he wont get the support of the unions or the general public.

    And Jones – well least said, we’ll leave that in the Hotel Room.

    So Cunliffe is your man – good luck.

    Meanwhile, National continue to laugh all the way to their next election victory.

    • Ad 12.1

      Key isn’t laughing. The only name on Key’s lips this morning was Cunliffe.
      You don’t need to understand why – the rest of us do.

    • fender 12.2

      Well it’s rather surprising that the richest prick of them all should become PM at all considering that (a dipshit one) argument.

      • Virginia Linton 12.2.1

        What’s wrong with being rich if you’ve worked hard … I’d say that’s a plus for Cunliffe and his wife. Grant being gay is a red herring. Many people couldn’t give a hoot. If he wins good luck to him. If he doesn’t I hope he and his followers shut the hell up and work for the good of the party and New Zealanders. If they don’t, they have to go or be demoted just as David unfairly was. If David is the leader and screws up they’ll have the last laugh. But I hope he gets his chance as Grant was part of the problem during the Shearer leadership (puppet stringed by Grant and colleagues) and doesn’t in my view deserve to be deputy on that basis alone. Let him spend some time on the back benches and reflect on how he got there. He has some building to do with the membership before he can count on the kind of support David is getting. And why has Shane seemingly gazumped Grant in the popularity stakes? Grant should reflect on that too; doubt much of it is due to his being gay. The difficulty is that some of the long-established MPs who have harmed the party and ignored the membership have considerable experience and skills. They can’t have senior roles in a new lineup on that basis alone but if they put a line in the sand and roll up their sleeves should Cunliffe be the leader, Labour as Opposition would be formidable and has a great crack at winning in 2014.

        • Rob 12.2.1.1

          Virginia

          “What’s wrong with being rich if you’ve worked hard “….. my god you dare write that on The Standard, are you on drugs. Could I have some.

          • framu 12.2.1.1.1

            good one rob – because you know that its all about the amount of money one earns – not the way its earned and how you treat others who earn less is what gets lefties riled up isnt it

            any other stupid shit you want to make up today?

            • Rob 12.2.1.1.1.1

              Wow, so only “lefties” are concerned about the way money is ‘earnt’ and how people are being treated, really , and you say I am making shit up. pffffft

          • Clement Pinto 12.2.1.1.2

            Being rich is not the problem. The problem is being rich AND being a government beneficiary with huge tax breaks, dodging taxes, getting subsidies, exploiting workers, being a sub civilised dishonest human.
            They need to be just and realise that their wealth HAS come from society and from those less wealthy. They have to learn to welcome higher tax rates for higher incomes to give some small fair share back to society. Even Warren Buffet says the wealthy should be taxed more.
            The wealthy need to realise the inequity and unfairness in the ever increasing wage, income and wealth gap and disparity between the top and bottom in society due to the uncontrolled exploitative nature of the free market and capitalist philosophy. They need to find ways to reduce this income gap in society.
            There is another point the wealthy need to consider by looking at what happened in China, Russia, France, India, Cuba etc when the masses rose up and revolted against exploitation. In this electronic age, such ‘revolutions’ can easily start any time anywhere when one least expects it. It is in their own interest for the wealthy to change their selfish uncontrolled capitalist greed and embrace socialist ideas in their philosophy.

    • Boadicea 12.3

      Mr King, you are a bitter person. The issues that torment you are inside you. Get help.

    • Crunchtime 12.4

      Wayne,

      If I would call John Key a two-faced liar, full of his own excrement and egotistical arrogance, would you object?

      Because I suggest it’s far more accurate description of Key than it is of Cunliffe.

    • Delia 12.5

      You got a problem with that Wayne, does it mess with your perception that all Labour supporters are low income or on benefits, well though, many of us are’nt.

      • Wayne (a different one) 12.5.1

        Not at all Delia – its just ironic given all we hear from Labour supporters – “is that rich prick Key only thinks of looking after his own wealth and those of all the other rich pricks in business.”

        Somewhat of a contradiction when your consider Cunliffe’s undoubted wealth and living style.

        Not wealth generated at his own hands, but those of his wife (Cunliffes own words).

        He is recognised as a “lazy prick” by many inside parliament – including some inside the Labour Caucus, as I’m lead to believe.

        • Crunchtime 12.5.1.1

          The difference being that Cunliffe hasn’t come from a currency trading background and worked for a company who helped bring about the very GFC he professed to rescue us from. Cunliffe also talks of social justice and a fair go and jobs for all, something John Key never did. Key just waffled about “time for change”, and did his best to paint Labour in a bad light… oh wait, he’s still doing that.

          • Rob 12.5.1.1.1

            Really Crunchtime , you should do some research on Mckinsey & Company consulting. He worked there for a while didnt he?

            Probably responsible for more corporate restructuring, lay offs , redundancies and worker hardship than any Govt sponsored austerity programme. The ultimate asset downsizers, union busters and off shoring specialists.

            Not the best background for a potential Labour NZ leader I would have thought, but you guys will let that one go through to the keeper.

            • Crunchtime 12.5.1.1.1.1

              Interesting. I see no mention of “McKinsey and Company consulting” in Cunliffe’s work history.

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cunliffe_(politician)

              “As a teenager he won a scholarship to study the International Baccalaureate at the United World College of the Atlantic in Wales. David Cunliffe studied politics at the University of Otago, where he was a member of the Otago University Debating Society, and gained a BA with first-class honours. He worked as a diplomat from 1987 to 1994 and gained a Diploma in Social Sciences (Distinction) in economics from Massey University in 1993. He was a Fulbright Scholar and Kennedy Memorial Fellow at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government and Harvard Business School in 1994 and 1995, earning a Master of Public Administration. He worked as a business consultant with Boston Consulting Group in Auckland from 1995 to 1999.”

              Boston Consulting Group is the same sort of thing as McKinsey, so I guess you mixed up the two organisations… unless you know more than wikipedia.

              The two of them along with Bain are the big three in business consulting. They do downsizing and offshoring to maximise the profits and productivity of the companies they work with. I imagine Cunliffe in his early 30s would have learned a lot from the 4 years he was there before he got the hell out and became a politician instead.

              He could have stuck around, and made well off, although not as well off as Key did with currency trading for more than a decade. But instead he bailed and decided to try to make the world a better place one way or another. I admire him for that.

              • Rob

                Sorry I did mean Boston, apologies. However I would also re-iterate that they a run pretty similar focus. In fact Boston is famous for the BCG matrix that invented the term “cash cow” and defined strategies for exiting dog type product & industry strategies. I do think this is a strange background for a proudly left leader, but thne so is saying all this and living in the most highest price suburb in Auckland.

                • Saarbo

                  Ignorant Rob, Mckinsey tended to be all about cutting costs, mainly labour while BCG worked on adding value through improving capacity utilisation (tended to add Labour). Worked with both, BCG = Awesome, McKinsey = Arseholes.

                  Get your facts right because there is quite a big difference in how the two organisations operate.

                  • Rob

                    “Ignorant” , man you are good at flinging the abuse at people and your pompous approach is grating.

                    I too have worked with both , like many others in the corp world, they are big enterprises. I worked with McKinsey in NZ on a large re-engineering project and yes they were terrible and worked BCG in the states on a major manufacturing re-alignment and they were also terrible.

                    My facts are quite correct. Both consultancies have been involved in many restructures, many lay offs and much manufacturing off shoring, if you think that BCG hasn’t then you are the one with ignorant and naive view.

          • Grantoc 12.5.1.1.2

            Yeah but Cunliffe worked for the Boston Consulting Group, a US based private sector global management consulting firm. The investment banks who created the GFC were/are major clients of BCG (including probably the one John Key worked for – Merryl Lynch I think).

            Cunliffe and Key may have even met in that world in days gone by as like minded colleagues.

            Actually some of Cunliffe’s arrogance may stem from this experience too – because consultants at BCG and McKinsey, another like minded management consultancy, were known for their ego’s and their arrogance and for being mightily overpaid. .

        • framu 12.5.1.2

          you did notice that your description of cunliffe and the description you say labour supporters give to key dont actually match up?

          “He is recognised as a “lazy prick” by many inside parliament – including some inside the Labour Caucus, as I’m lead to believe.”

          so possible, maybe, cant prove it, but a few i think in labour think this? So according to your own statement, most of the group who think cunliffe is lazy arent even in the labour party. Whoop dee do!

          that must explain why key keeps trying to scare us off cunliffe then – he feels threatened by his laziness

          • McFlock 12.5.1.2.1

            lol
            I have a few reservations about Cunliffe, but laziness isn’t one of them by any means.

            Next, Tolley will accuse someone of incompetence.

          • Colonial Viper 12.5.1.2.2

            Cunliffe is “lazy” compared to who? Grant Robertson and Shane Jones? LOL the Righties are desperate as!!!

    • Richard McGrath 12.6

      Cunliffe will really be able to relate to the common man… from his $2.5M home in Herne Bay, where he doesn’t have to mix with the dirt-poor proles.

  13. Demelza 13

    I voted last week, but my husband only got his papers yesterday, online voting is great, it’s interesting that they are saying that people’s minds are still not made up, most people I have talked to have known before going to the meeting exactly who they are voting for and have voted as soon as they have their papers, it’s caucus who are possibly holding out.

  14. Crunchtime 14

    Anyone seen the Daily Blog’s post yesterday about the election being fixed?

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/09/09/is-someone-planning-to-fix-labours-leadership-election/

    • Rich 14.1

      I don’t think Electionz would risk their whole reputation by conniving in rigging an election. Especially for the Labour party, where what happened would never, ever leak.

      • Crunchtime 14.1.1

        Yeah… Just realised the author is Chris Trotter. Someone who paints himself as a poster-child of the Left… but forever paints it in a bad light. He’s the worst advocate for the Left and for Labour in particular I can imagine.

        I’m only going on the many articles I’ve read and opinions on natrad I’ve heard, but to me he seems very self-absorbed and self-congratulatory, and it appears journalism isn’t actually his primary interest.

        • Rhinocrates 14.1.1.1

          As I feel about many commentators: Great diagnosis, dubious prognosis, lethal prescription.

    • js 14.2

      It is a bit concerning that many David Cunliffe supporters appear unwilling to accept any outcome except their man winning. If he doesn’t win then that must be a conspriracy or vote rigging. Meanwhile the three candidates seem pretty genuine that they will back the candidate this new democratic process throws up – so perhaps the members should too. (Although personally I would rather Shane Jones didn’t win)

      • Crunchtime 14.2.1

        Grant Robertson is a representative of the ABC lobby, he has the backing of them, the old guard who continue to back neoliberal policy, Nat-lite, that has scared so many people away from the polls altogether.

        Shane Jones is even worse, he’s a pale blue misogynist with too many skeletons in his closet.

        Both of these candidates are representing the right wing of the party. Robertson makes the right noises about being for workers rights, Jones doesn’t even bother.

        The membership has been backing Cunliffe from the start and I wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t too happy with anyone else. I wouldn’t blame them either.

        • Bunji 14.2.1.1

          Grant Robertson does not represent the “right” of the party, no matter who votes for him.

          I think in Grant and David we have 2 highly intelligent, incredibly hard-working, passionate advocates for the left, with a real commitment to making life better for all NZers, not just the elite. One may be wittier and more affable, the other may have more economic cred, but I’ll be proud to have either of them as my party leader.

          Shane Jones has shown himself to be an excellent showman who can get some voters interested in Labour who aren’t currently.

          There is a diversity of opinion among members, unions and caucus. We have set up an excellent democratic process so all get to have their say – those who have to work with the leader on a day-to-day basis and those who do the ground-work to get them elected.

          I think it’s important that we respect that different people have validly held different viewpoints as to who is best to beat John Key and be the better Labour PM after 2014. That spectrum of viewpoints is both in caucus and among members, albeit in different measure.

          Some of the sledging and making unfounded accusations against rivals to their preferred candidate on here makes for some unpleasant reading – and not all of it is from trolls (be they right or left leaning). Whoever wins on Sunday, the process must be respected.

          I strongly suspect it will be Cunliffe, but if it isn’t, it won’t be because caucus “stole the vote” or any rigging or deals – it’ll be that he failed to convince enough Labour people that he should be leader.

          Whoever does win, we need everyone to unify behind that leader, or like Australia, we’ll see a crippled Labour party beaten, and a Tory reign…

        • Chooky 14.2.1.2

          +1 Crunchtime

      • QoT 14.2.2

        Whereas the Grant Robertson supporters have totally been keeping this fight clean. Remind me which team just lost a member due to comments made WEEKS ago which acknowledged, but did not agree with, the very thing Robertson’s team have been screaming blue murder about for the whole campaign?

    • GregJ 14.3

      I think Trotter wrote it after a few beers at said Pub! :twisted:

      It was rambling, not terribly logical or consistent, ill informed and frankly just a bit pointless. I generally like reading what Chris has to say (whether I agree with him or not) but I don’t think this piece will make it into any compilations of his writing. :-?

    • js 15.1

      That is offensive and puerile on so many levels. Reminds me of the nastiness directed by the angry white male extreme right at Helen Clark.

      • fender 15.1.1

        “That is offensive and puerile on so many levels”

        Feel free to expand on that js.

      • the pigman 15.1.2

        +1 js, and you don’t need to explain just because fender is being obtuse…

        Proudly gave DC my first preference, doesn’t mean I think misrepresenting what GR is is in any way cool. And that would be true of 99.9% of DC-voters, I’d imagine.

    • fender 15.2

      Lol, “cool” picture of a duck and a lapdog.

      Good to see there’s at least one gay person who can have a preference not dependant on the sexuality of a candidate.

      “Good on ya Steve Gray!”
      +1

  15. James Thrace 16

    My problem is that all the gays seem to be sticking together in the party for robertson on nothing more than ‘hes one of us’ The amount of assumptions people make that simply because as a gay member of rainbow labour I’m going to roll over and vote for the faghot is wide off the mark. I just nod and smile and publicly voice support for teh gay one, while knifing him in the back with a 1 for Cunliffe. Of course robertson knows all about the twisting knife and how to wield it.

    It appears that the best candidate to win the 2014 election is drowned out by the love in that at last, a gay PM will take the cake – and eat it all too.

    People forget that just because the house overwhelmingly supported queers getting hitched doesn’t mean the wider section of society supports it too.

    As far as I concerned, grant being gay isn’t a red herring, but a very valuable indication of whether NZ as a whole is actually ready for a gay PM who doesn’t know the pain of childbirth, abortion, or even raising a nuclear family with 2.4 kids because like it as not, thats where the majority of voters reside.

    • Crunchtime 16.1

      It IS a red herring. Sorry. Grant just isn’t the most able candidate. He is a very capable politician who may well be ready for the leadership in 6-9 years, but Cunliffe is the strongest personality of the bunch who has the best direction. That’s why he’s the most popular. Simple as that.

      • gobsmacked 16.1.1

        Crunchtime is right.

        First, “teh gayz” are not voting en bloc for Grant. Just read the comments on this blog for daily evidence of that.

        Second – let’s cut to the chase – suppose Grant was straight, and David C was gay? Ask yourselves who you’d want as leader? Changed your mind? Not me. Not many of us, I reckon.

        Cunliffe is the best available candidate, in this contest. And to hell with TV3 Jonolism.

        • Colonial Viper 16.1.1.1

          Correct. Louisa Wall and Charles Chauvel were both for Cunliffe, for example. Btw voted today. I’m backing David :)

    • karol 16.2

      BS, James.

      I am lesbian and have over the last couple of years, always favoured Cunliffe for leader.

      It’s not about sexuality. It’s about the fact of who is most capable to lead, and, for me, who is least likely to continue following the neoliberal way.

      Robertson lacks ministerial experience, speaks well, but has been too aligned with the old guard neoliberals over the last couple of years.

      He is yet to prove to my satisfaction that he is capable of leading the Labour caucus, and to be PM.

      Robertson does very good speeches, and is clearly pretty smart. But that is not enough.

    • Rhinocrates 16.3

      all the gays… where the majority of voters reside

      So “gays” are the Borg? Well, I’m white (pale blue actually, as Billy Connelly said – it takes weeks of tanning to turn us Scots white), straight, cisgendered male blah blah blah. I won’t vote for my clone, but for the most capable.

      The more precisely one defines any individual, the smaller the group becomes, so David Cunliffe matches matches me on a number of points, but he has a different hair colour (and more of it).

      You call sexuality a red herring, but your post shows an overwhelming concern with it, and as is often the case, you shift your bigotry to “the public”, “the majority” and so forth in a weak attempt to divert attention from your bigotry.

      I’ve never known the pain of childbirth and never will. Presumably, that would make me entirely unsuited to comment on, say, literature, commerce, diplomacy… which is what you’re saying.

      I personally do not support Robertson at all, and that’s because I think that he’s a self-interested party apparatchik and that’s all.

      You should stop hiding behind your disguise of “the public” and say straight out (pun intended) that you hate gays.

  16. js 17

    With such narrowminded, smug and bigoted attitudes as displayed in the above comments I certainly wouldn’t want to be on the same side as any of you Whale Oil wannabees.

    • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 18.1

      Jenny?

      • chris 18.1.1

        yes, unfortunately. I have seen some vindictive bitches in my time but Clare Curran takes the cake. Dog awful woman…

        • Rob 18.1.1.1

          Lol, Ruddliffe

        • Anne 18.1.1.2

          The accusation she actually leveled at others was the very accusation that should be leveled at herself. She’s the one who brought the sexuality of a candidate into public focus – not those to whom she is pointing the finger.

          Clare Curran is not worth a 1000 Jennie Michies. I hope Cunluffe wins and tosses her on the bottom rung of the caucus ladder and leaves her there to sulk and whine until she’s gone in 2014.

          This is the 4th or 5th time she’s done it. Remember her allegation of a few years back? The Greens were “white-anting” Labour she said. Can’t remember the details but they were just doing their job.

          • Anne 18.1.1.2.1

            Clare Curran is not worth a 1000 Jennie Michies.

            Oops I think I’ve got that the wrong way around. :( you know what I mean – must go…

            • karol 18.1.1.2.1.1

              So sorry to read that about Jennie Michie.

              It looks like some in the old guard are not going to let go of their position in the Labour caucus quietly.

              I have no gone from hope to despondency again, and wonder how long it’s going to take to get parliamentary Labour back on track.

              Why is the old guard not listening to the people?

              • Bill

                Been thinking about this…and got to wondering what the acting leader of the opposition is going to do about Clare Curran using twitter for tosh and causing Jennie her position as well as introducing scurrilous disruptions and distractions into the leadership contest when she should have followed set procedure and protocol to air any grievance she might have been feeling?

                I’m guessing the answer could be a fair indicator of what to expect should the chips fall a particular way. Credit to David Cunliffe for being quick off the mark and heading off any need to deal with bullshit distractions. And Jennie, if your reading this, my heart goes out to you.

          • the pigman 18.1.1.2.2

            I got what you meant Anne ;)

            Yeah, that white-anting article was on Red Alert around early-mid 2011 if I recall, drove a lot of people away.

            I think people need to actually go and have a look at Clare Curran’s twitter feed to see how absurd it is – she launches a broadside at other DC-associated people, too.

            Just a witch, and unworthy of the ICT portfolio, so I hope there is a fine Green alternative.

      • Anne 18.1.2

        @ Gormless…..

        Not Jenny of climate change fame. Jenny Michie. Two different people.

  17. Richard Down South 19

    Voted… Cunliffe was my choice, and ill proudly say so

  18. hush minx 20

    I think a number of us are shocked that Jen has been asked to step down, for something that happened before the campaign even started, and where she was quite right to suggest the issue is of concern to some (but not her). What action is Grant taking to pull Clare into line given she complained via twitter rather than using the process the candidates signed up to in terms of code of conduct. Perhaps it’s because he knows Jen hasn’t breached the code but he wanted to stir up trouble anyway?

    • gobsmacked 20.1

      Of course Jenny Michie has done nothing wrong. Presumably DC just wanted to kill the story, though it’s probably gonna do the opposite.

      Just 4 days to go. Eyes on the prize. File away Clare’s comments in that bulging file marked “Curran: Unfit to Govern”, and the leader can deal with her later. Not now.

      • BM 20.1.1

        Yep not very clever by Cunliffe.

        Cunliffe doesn’t seem to be very aware of how his actions and behavior are perceived.
        Sort of leader who will lead you to certain death.

        For example
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvenqcfX1j8

        • Tony Moder 20.1.1.1

          That old video BM no one cares.

          • amirite 20.1.1.1.1

            I found a great one of John Key @ Porirua markets:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTE7EEixKvE

          • BM 20.1.1.1.2

            Yes it is old.
            But, anyway
            Did David really think jumping on the back of a truck and putting on a really bad bro voice was a good idea.?
            Did he not think our darker skinned brothers may have been offended.?
            Not very political astute, does rather open you up for attack

            or

            where he lived was due to his wife lactating, really? wtf, obviously he’d thought about this question and in his mind he considered that a good answer?
            Doesn’t say a lot about his judgement

            or

            the whole debacle surrounding last years conference which lead to his colleagues publicly eviscerating him.

            I get the feeling with David, in his own mind he is so awesome and destined for greatness he doesn’t need to listen to others, he’s got all the answers, hence the reason he’s completely oblivious to way he comes across to other people, someone this great can never be wrong.

            In the game of politics where popularity and knowing how to schmooze is so important, Cunliffe get an F-

            • Pascal's bookie 20.1.1.1.2.1

              “Did he not think our darker skinned brothers may have been offended.?”

              The only people I’ve seen complaining about it also tend to steal enough memes from kiwiblog comments and whaleoil that I have doubts about their sincerity, to be honest.

            • Murray Olsen 20.1.1.1.2.2

              Every WhaleSpew reader would have been highly offended. Diddums.

            • Saarbo 20.1.1.1.2.3

              BM, go to Waitite Rugby Club in Te Kuiti (Cunliffe went to school in Te Kuiti) and you will find dozens of pakeha speaking with a maori accent…its common in the smaller towns where all mix together. Just get over it.

              “Did he not think our darker skinned brothers may have been offended.?”

              Whats this about??? Only pakeha are going to read this on the standard??? Clearly being a rwnj is only the start of your problems, racist wanker.

              • BM

                Being Tangata whenua I found the rich white fella from Herne bay offensive.

                • felix

                  Yawn. Whatevs.

                • karol

                  Gee. You must really be offended by the VERY rich white fella from Hawaii.

                • Saarbo

                  Get out of the city BM, problem with you is you only mix with your own. Get out to small town provincial New Zealand and you will see (hear) why you shouldn’t have been.

                  At the Hamilton husting David Cunliffe spoke beautiful te reo maori also.

      • karol 20.1.2

        Did Jones just make a veiled reference to Curran’s monthly cycle?

        Edit: On 3 News tonight, Jones said:

        “Either the moon in Dunedin was in the wrong phase or she’s casting around for a new job,” says Mr Robertson.

        So Jones gets away with any kind of prejudice (re women, gays, etc) and Jenny Michie gets stood down for answering a question.

      • Neoleftie 20.1.3

        That I agree with…but also that cunliffe is about discipline and disire to create real meaningful expectation of the front members of the party.
        Poor Jenny but bad call from Clare too.

    • lurgee 20.2

      And this from a man who wants to lead the Party of the Workers? Did he hire her on a 90 Day Trial or something? For shame!

  19. James Thrace 21

    Er, if you read, im saying I dont support robertson, him being gay isnt as much of a red herring as its promoted to be as simple truth is he won’t resonate with the majority. Cunliffe is the only one with the goods but its annoying that so many tribal members support him solely because hes one of the gays and hey, good to have a pink leader.

  20. Tony Moder 22

    Yep whats done D.C .is done now its make every action from here in count and get rid of that old guard in caucus and the person of the three that is relying on them as his backstop because nobody else actually wants him as the leader.

  21. Peter Revell 23

    this issue galvanized me to vote, two strong people who speak their mind and act on principle, Go Jenny and David

  22. karol 24

    Why is Robertson talking rent controls for Christchurch only? Why not throughout the country?

    Cost of renting in Auckland is unacceptable.

    • big bruv 24.1

      Karol

      “Why not throughout the country?”

      Lol…would you make it compulsory to belong to a parasitic union as well?

      • karol 24.1.1

        Tell that to the people who can’t afford the going rents.

      • QoT 24.1.2

        What’s a parasitic union? Is it like the parasitic 1% who cream money off society and threaten to take their toys home if we tax them fairly?

        • felix 24.1.2.1

          Damn parasitic unions, if they weren’t making me pay above minimum wages and provide semi-decent conditions I’d be able to afford to buy slaves.

    • Saarbo 24.2

      Yes agree karol, rent controls are a great idea in Auckland also. There needs to a be a driver to reduce the attractiveness of investment housing, CGT will go some way but other initiatives need to be looked at.

    • Neoleftie 24.3

      Well talking to grant on twitter it was “ESP in Chch ” also that it would combine with kiwi build and state house rebuild, implies more market intervention,.
      The left block within labour might have found its voice, it’s only been thirty years, go cunliffe and Robertson.

  23. Clement Pinto 25

    I think Clare Curran has done a great disservice to the Labour party and its image. A very stupid thing to do. She needs to be quietly sent packing at the next candidate selection time.

    • chris 25.1

      If Robertson is serious about uniting the factions within the Labour Party he would have chastised Curran.

      No leadership skills and even less mana…

      • Saarbo 25.1.1

        That is a fair point. Curran’s behaviour is really unfortunate and completely against the spirit of how the 3 candidates are running the competition…he needs to do something.

      • Neoleftie 25.1.2

        She means well in a silly naive amateur way…Robertson is all behind the scenes person I think.

        • chris 25.1.2.1

          There is nothing “well meaning” or “naïve” in Curran’s tweet. Definitely amateurish and petty.

        • miravox 25.1.2.2

          “Robertson is all behind the scenes person I think”

          Yes. Walks in as part of the team when it goes well for those who make the play, and then walks in as the one not involved when the play turns to custard. Make me wonder what Robertson really thinks about anything.

      • Hami Shearlie 25.1.3

        +1000

  24. big bruv 26

    Not sure why so many of the hard lefties here think that the Nats’ are running scared of Cunliffe.

    I desperately hope he wins the Labour party leadership, if two thirds of the Labour caucus have worked out that the man is odious then I don’t think it will take the public long to work that out for themselves.

    Please let it be Cunliffe, he and only he can assure the Nat’s of at least one more term.

  25. amirite 27

    It was great to see a good, interesting, civilised campaign for the Party leadership. The only tarnish was coming from a few party unfaithful and the media, desperate to find some shit to stir. It says more about them, than the candidates themselves.

    I doubt the Nats would’ve ever been able to pull a campaign like that, not in a million years. They simply don’t get the meaning of the word ‘democracy’.

    I hope we’ll see the last of Key in 2014.

    Signed,
    a life-long Labour voter (not a Party member).

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    Yesterday, I was swearing. Swearing the Parliamentary oath, that is. But, under my breath, I was also quietly swearing about the archaic, colonial form of that oath and its inappropriateness for today’s Aotearoa New Zealand. To be permitted to speak...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Damning report on Ruataniwha dam numbers
    When I presented my submission to the Board of Inquiry on the Tukituki Catchment Proposal I compared the proposed 83 metre high Ruataniwha dam with the Clyde Dam and noted the risk of cost blowouts in the construction process.  The...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Church congratulated on child poverty stand
    The efforts by the bishops of the Anglican Church to ensure that the issue of child poverty is not forgotten is a call to all New Zealanders to take action, says Labour’s Interfaith-Dialogue Spokesperson, Su’a William Sio.   “I think...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review.  He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban (see further biographical details here). The Review Team...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour backs urban development plans
    Auckland Council’s plan to set up an urban development agency is to be applauded and central government should get behind it to make it a success, Labour’s Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford says. Auckland Council CEO Stephen Town has indicated plans...
    Labour | 18-10
  • New Zealand can be rightly proud of seat on Security Council
    Gaining a seat on the United Nation’s Security Council shows the sort of standing that New Zealand has in the world and the quality of the long campaign that we ran over nearly a decade, says Foreign Affairs spokesperson David...
    Labour | 16-10
  • NZ has opportunity on UN Security Council
    New Zealand has an opportunity to make a major contribution to the strengthening of international law and institutional capacity through its upcoming two-year tenure on the United Nations Security Council, Green Party spokesperson on global affairs, Dr Kennedy Graham said...
    Greens | 16-10
  • MPI still dragging the chain over causes of food bug
    The Ministry of Primary Industries’ release of Environmental Science and Research’s initial reports regarding the sources of a nasty stomach bug will be little comfort to the 127 people affected by it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “This...
    Labour | 16-10
  • Treasury officials should try working without food
    The Green Party is challenging Treasury officials to work for a week without eating properly, in light of their advice to Government that a food in schools programme is not needed."Treasury's advice was that providing food for children in schools...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Councils need to better protect our drinking water
    Environment Canterbury (ECan) is proposing several variations to its regional land and water plan that will allow for increased nutrient and other pollution from irrigation and intensive agriculture on the Canterbury Plains. Commissioners are hearing submissions on Variation 1 to...
    Greens | 15-10
  • National needs to commit to making NZ workers safe
    The National Government must do more to help make New Zealand workplaces a safer place to work in, Green Party industrial relations spokesperson Denise Roche said today.Data released by Statistics New Zealand today showed that workers in the fishing and...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Key commits to deployment before consultation or analysis
    John Key’s offer to consult Opposition parties on whether to deploy New Zealand forces against ISIS looks increasingly like a PR exercise only, says Labour’s Defence spokesperson, Phil Goff. “The presence of New Zealand’s Chief of Defence Force at a...
    Labour | 15-10
  • National must end ideological opposition to raising income
    If John Key is serious about tackling child poverty he must approach it with an open mind, and overcome his ideological block to raising incomes as a solution, the Green Party said today.Papers released to Radio New Zealand today show...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Pentagon links climate change and terrorism
    Yesterday the Pentagon launched a plan to deal with a threat that “poses immediate risks to national security”; one that “will affect the Department of Defense’s ability to defend the nation”. It wasn’t referring to Ebola or ISIS. It was...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Four Nominees for Labour’s Leadership
    As at 5pm today four valid nominations had been received for the position of Labour Leader, as follows: Andrew Little(nominated by Poto Williams and Iain Lees-Galloway) Nanaia Mahuta(nominated by Louisa Wall and Su’a William Sio) David Parker(nominated by Damien O’Connor...
    Labour | 14-10
  • Green Party calls for consultation over terrorism law changes
    The Green Party has today written to the Prime Minister asking him to engage in wider consultation prior to changing any laws as a result of the recently announced terrorism law reviews, said the Green Party today. In a letter...
    Greens | 14-10
  • MPI must name product and supermarket chain
    The Ministry of Primary Industries must name the product responsible for severe gastroenteritis affecting people around the country, and the supermarket chain distributing it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “The Ministry seems to be more concerned about protecting...
    Labour | 13-10
  • John Key dishonest about reasons for wanting to change terrorism law
    John Key is misleading the public to push through terrorism law changes under urgency, the Green Party said today. On Sunday, John Key stated that it is not illegal for someone to fight overseas for a terrorist group, such as...
    Greens | 12-10
  • Law changes shaping up to be worse than first thought
    The Prime Minister needs to be up front about exactly what changes he is planning to make to the Employment Relations  Amendment Bill, Labour's spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.Interviewed on Q&A yesterday John Key said he did not...
    Labour | 12-10
  • Rapists, not Tinder, the threat to women
    Blame for rape and sexual assault should only ever be laid at the door of the perpetrator, not dating services or the actions of women themselves, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “Tinder is not the problem and women...
    Labour | 09-10
  • Safer Journeys For People Who Cycle
    You have a rare opportunity to tell the people who are making the decisions on cycling how to make it better. The Cycling Safety Panel is seeking feedback on their draft recommendations for improving the safety of cycling in New...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Subsidising more pollution will undermine water clean-up plan at Te Waihora...
    In 2010, NIWA found Canterbury’s Te Waihora/Lake Ellesmere had the worst nutrient status of 140 lakes around New Zealand that it measured. In 2011, the National Government committed to spending $15 million across the country through the Fresh Start for...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Adding value not herbicides
    The HT swedes, and other brassicas, might seem like a good idea to farmers struggling against weeds but like the GE road, is this the path we want our agriculture to be treading? The Federated Farmers President, Dr William Rolleston...
    Greens | 07-10
  • ‘Blame the Planner’ bizarre approach to child poverty
    The National Government is stooping to a bizarre new low in blaming "planning processes" for poverty and inequality, after spending six years doing nothing about either the housing market or child poverty, the Green Party said today. Finance Minister Bill...
    Greens | 07-10
  • Media Advisory
    MANA Leader, Hone Harawira will not be available to speak with media today regarding his release “Recount Just One Step To restoring Credibility”. He is however available for media comment tomorrow, Tuesday the 8th of October, all media arrangements are...
    Mana | 07-10
  • RECOUNT JUST ONE STEP TO RESTORING CREDIBILITY
    “I have applied for a judicial recount of the votes in the Tai Tokerau election because it is one step in trying to restore credibility to the electoral process in the north, and, I suspect, in all other Maori electorates...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA SEEKS TAI TOKERAU RECOUNT
    The MANA Movement is supporting Leader Hone Harawira’s application for a judicial re-count in the Te Tai Tokerau electorate for the 2014 general election. President Lisa McNab says there are a number of serious issues of concern regarding the ability...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA to fight mass privatisation of state housing
    Announcements over the past 12 hours from the Minister responsible for Housing New Zealand, Bill English, and Minister for Social Housing, Paula Bennett, make clear the government’s intention for the mass privatisation of state housing. This comes during the middle...
    Mana | 07-10
  • Journalists have right to protect sources
    Legal authorities must respect the right of journalist Nicky Hager to protect the source of his material for his Dirty Politics book under Section 68 of the Evidence Act, Acting Labour Leader David Parker says. “It is crucial in an...
    Labour | 06-10
  • It shouldn’t take the Army to house the homeless
    National’s move to speed up its state house sell-off shows it is bankrupt of new ideas, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “National has been in office for six years, yet the housing crisis has got worse every month and...
    Labour | 06-10
  • Government must lift social housing supply, not shuffle the deck chairs
    National's decision to shift the state provision of housing to third parties is a smokescreen for the Government decreasing the provision of affordable housing, the Green Party said today."What National should be doing is increasing the supply of both social...
    Greens | 06-10
  • Election 2014 – the final count
    While we have to wait for the final booth level counts we can now see how well we did in the specials and look at electorate level data. First off special votes (and disallowed/recounted votes etc). There was a change...
    Greens | 06-10
  • We need more houses, not Ministers
    The Government’s decision to have three housing Ministers will create a dog’s breakfast of the portfolio and doesn’t bode well for fixing the country’s housing crisis, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “New Zealanders need more houses, not more Ministers....
    Labour | 05-10
  • Review: Perfect Place
    I went to a Perfect Place on Tuesday night, and what a delight it was. The marshmallows sweetly (and forcefully) handed out pre-show, set the tone for the next hour. Walking up the stairs at The Basement was a complete...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • More Latté Than Lager: Reflections on Grant Robertson’s Campaign Launch.
    BIKERS? SERIOUSLY! Had Grant Robertson’s campaign launch been organised by Phil Goff? Was this a pitch for the votes of what few Waitakere Men remain in the Labour Party? Was I even at the right place? Well, yes, I was....
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • About Curwen Ares Rolinson
    Curwen Ares Rolinson – Curwen Ares Rolinson is a firebrand young nationalist presently engaged in acts of political resistance deep behind enemy lines amidst the leafy boughs of Epsom. He is affiliated with the New Zealand First Party; although his...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kelly Ellis
    Kelly Ellis.Kelly Ellis – As a child, Kelly Ellis didn’t so much fall into the cracks, but willfully wriggled her way into them. Ejected from Onslow College – a big job in the 70s – Kelly worked in car factories,...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kate Davis
    Kate Davis.Kate Davis – Having completed her BA in English and Politics, Kate is now starting her MA. Kate works as a volunteer advocate at Auckland Action Against Poverty and previously worked for the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective. Kate writes...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Parker does a Shearer – oh for a Labour Leader who can challenge msm fals...
    Sigh. It seems David Parker has done a Shearer… Like a cult and too red – Parker on LabourLabour leadership contender David Parker says Labour borders on feeling like “a cult” and must look at its branding – including its...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • A brief word on the hundreds of millions NZ is spending on the secret intel...
    The enormity of the mass surveillance state NZ Government’s have built carries a huge price tag… Kiwis pay $103m ‘membership fee’ for spyingThe $103 million taxpayer funding of New Zealand’s intelligence agencies is effectively a membership fee for joining the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Where. Is. Jason. Ede?
    Where. Is. Jason. Ede?...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Labour’s Din of Inequity
    Watching Labour’s leadership candidates on Q+A on Sunday, I noticed the ongoing use of terms like “opportunity” and “aspiration”, and “party of the workers”. What do these mean? We glean much from Labour, and from the media about Labour, but not...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • “Blue-Greenwash” fails the test when it comes to endangered dolphins
    National’s pre-election promises saw some wins for the environment – perhaps as the party sought to appease its “Blue-Green” voters and broaden its popular appeal. Some of the ecological gains were a long time in the making, overdue even– such...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Reasons not to be cheerful, Part #272b
    Why don’t you get back into bed? The next few years — the rest of this century — are not going to be pretty. There is an obvious disconnect between any remaining political ambition to fix climate change and the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • OIA protocols and official advice ignored to hide Child Poverty
    It might not seem so now, but child poverty was a major election issue. What a pity we did not have the full debate. In that debate it would have been very helpful to have seen the Ministry of Social...
    The Daily Blog | 20-10
  • Previewing the 4 candidates for Leader of the Labour Party
    The extraordinary outbursts by Shearer last week highlights just how toxic that Caucus is. Shearer was on every major media platform as the ABC attack dog tearing into Cunliffe in the hope of diminishing Cunliffe’s support of Little by tearing...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – the sudden explosion of ‘left’ blogs
    Time to Teach or more people will suffer from P.A.I.D. Political And Intellectual Dysmorphia.I was on the Twitter and a guy followed me so of course I did the polite thing and followed him back. He wrote a blog so...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Ego vs Eco
    Ego vs Eco...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • We can’t let the Roastbuster case slip away
    Those of us (like me) left with hope that the police would aggressively follow through on the large amount of evidence on offer to them (let’s not forget they forgot they even had some at one point) in the Roastbusters...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Food, shelter and medicine instead of bombs and bullets
    The on-going conflict across the Middle East – due in large part to the US-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq – has created another humanitarian crisis of biblical proportion. The essentials of life are desperately needed in Iraq and Syria...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • The politics of electorate accommodations
    National’s electorate accommodations with ACT and United Future were a big factor in it winning re-election. Interestingly, there is another electorate accommodation scenario whereby the centre-left could have come out on top, even with the same distribution of party votes....
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Why you should join the TPPA Action on 8 November
    On 8 November 2014, thousands of Kiwis will take part in the International Day of Action to protest the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA). The rally cry for us is TPPA – Corporate Trap, Kiwis Fight Back. Why should you join...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG – Patrick O’Dea: no new coal mines
    Green Party and Mana Party policy is “NO NEW COAL MINES!” Auckland Coal Action is trying to put this policy into action on the ground. ACA after a hard fought two year campaign waged alongside local residents and Iwi, in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Comparing Police action – Hager raid vs Roast Buster case
    This satire had the NZ Police contact TDB and threaten us with 6months in prison for using their logo.   The plight of Nicky Hager and the draconian Police actions against him has generated over  $53 000 in donations so...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Malala Yousafzai, White Saviour Complexes and Local Resistance
    Last week, Malala Yousafzai was the co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Since her exposure to the worldwide spotlight, her spirit, wisdom and strength have touched the hearts of people everywhere. However, there have been cynics who have argued that...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Jason Ede is back – but no media can interview him?
    Well, well, well. Jason Ede, the main figure connected to John Key’s office and the Dirty Politics black ops is back with a company with deep ties to the National Party. One thing you can say about the right –...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Leadership Transitions In Other Parties: A ...
    As cannot have escaped anyone’s attention by now, the country is presently in the grips of an election and campaign that will help determine the fate of the nation for years to come. It’s gripping stuff – with clear divides...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • SkyCity worker says she faces losing her house
    SkyCity worker Carolyn Alpine told the company annual shareholder’s meeting today that she faced the prospect of losing her house because the company had cut her shifts from two a week to one without consultation. The solo mother, has worked...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • Greg O’Connor’s latest push to arm cops & 5 reasons not to
    I was wondering at what point within a 3rd term of National that Police Cheerleader Greg O’Connor would start trying to demand cops be armed. O’Connor must have thought to himself, ‘if bloody Key can get us and the GCSB vast new...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • You can’t have crisis without ISIS
    So the new scary bogeyman ISIS might have chemical weapons that the US secretly found in Iraq, but America didn’t want to expose this find because the WMDs were actually built and made by the US and Europe, the two powers...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • NZ WINS UN SPIN THE BOTTLE! Privately sucking up to America for a decade me...
    Oh, we are loved! Little old NZ, the 53rd state of America after Israel and Australia, gets to sit at the adults table for the special dinner party that is the UN Security Council. How delightful, a decade of privately...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • MEDIA BLOG – Myles Thomas – A World Without Advertising
    Non-commercial broadcasting and media. It’s a solution for all manner of problems ailing our tender nation… voter engagement, unaccountable governance, apathy, stupefaction, public education, science in schools, arts appreciation, cultural cringe… But no-one could’ve guessed that non-commercial media might solve...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October
    March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • Whack a mole as US govt foreign policy
    Whack-A-Mole was a popular arcade game from my youth.  It consisted of a waist high cabinet with holes in the top. Plastic moles seemingly randomly pop out of these holes. The purpose of the game was to hit as many...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • In Paean of Debt
    This week is ‘Money Week’. It’s an opportunity to promote to the middle classes, and anyone else who will listen, the virtues of wise ‘investment’. The aims are to promote the mystical (and indeed mythical) virtues of saving for the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • The last 48 hours – Poverty denial, war denial and unapologetic abuse of ...
    The bewildering speed of events that simply end in Key shrugging and proclaiming he doesn’t really give a shit is coming think and fast as the Government suddenly appreciate the full spectrum dominance they now enjoy. Here is Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Mana 2.0 Rebooted
    Internationally the news is that Evo Morales of Bolivia won big with Left Wing policies But what are the chances that the Left will make a resurgence in this country? As the internecine struggles between the Left and the Right...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Blomfield IPCA letter – Has Dirty Politics leaked into the NZ Police ...
    It’s difficult to know what to make of the IPCA letter to Matthew Blomfield over Slater’s continued insistence that the hard drive taken from Matthew wasn’t stolen.  Slater has selectively cherry picked the Police referring back to his claim that Blomfeild perjured...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • ​Media release: Rail and Maritime Transport Union – Auckland move for K...
    The Rail and Maritime Transport Union is questioning a KiwiRail proposal to progressively relocate its Zero Harm personnel from Wellington to Auckland. “The purpose of the Zero Harm team is to drive KiwiRail’s performance in health and safety.  Rail is a...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Amnesty International – Friend request from an IS militant
    There’s always that one person, that one Facebook friend, usually a musician or event promoter, who, when you so foolishly accept their friend request, will completely inundate your news feed with copious event invitations and promotions. The person who, despite...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • NZ should follow the UK and recognize the Palestinian state
    Over the past two weeks, the United Kingdom and Sweden have made headlines through their decisions to recognize the state of Palestine. They are hardly the first nations to do so. Indeed, 134 countries have, in various ways, given formal...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Discordant Chimes of Freedom: Why Labour has yet to be forgiven.
    WHY DOES THE ELECTORATE routinely punish Labour and the Greens for their alleged “political correctness” but not National? It just doesn’t seem fair. Consider, for example, the Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007 – the so-called “anti-smacking legislation” –...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Hosking or Henry – Which right wing crypto fascist clown do you want to w...
    So Mediaworks are finally going to make some actual money from their eye watering contract with Paul Henry by launching a new multi-platform Breakfast show over TV, Radio and internet. This is great news for Campbell Live who have dodged...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Families need more money to reduce child poverty
    Prime Minister John Key is mistaken to rule out extending the In Work Tax Credit to all poor children (The Nation 11th Oct) and Child Poverty Action Group challenges government advisors to come up with a more cost effective way...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Don’t shit on my dream
    Once were dreamers. A large man, walks down the road and, even from 200 yards there’s light showing between his big arms and bigger body. It’s as if he’s put tennis balls under his arms. Two parking wardens walk out...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Labour and ‘special interests’
    The media narrative of Labour is that it is unpopular because it’s controlled by ‘special interests’. This ‘special interests’ garbage is code for gays, Maoris, wimin and unionists. We should show that argument the contempt it deserves. The next Labour...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Ru...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Tahi) . National’s housing development project: ‘Gateway’ to confusion . Perhaps nothing better illustrates National’s lack of a coherent housing programme than the ‘circus’ that is...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Here’s what WINZ are patronisingly saying to people on welfare when they ...
    Yesterday, a case manager from WINZ called to tell me that I needed to “imagine what I would do if I did not have welfare”. I replied “Well, I guess if I couldn’t live at home, I would be homeless.”...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • David Shearer’s ‘no feminist chicks’ mentality highlights all that is...
    Mr Nasty pays a visit Shearer’s extraordinary outburst last night on NZs favourite redneck TV, The Paul Henry Show, is a reminder of all that is wrong within the Labour Caucus right now… He said the current calls for a female or...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0
    Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Unanimously Call for Commissioner to Arm Police Full Time
    In the wake of a series of recent armed offender incidents, delegates to the Police Association Annual Conference today called unanimously on the Commissioner to arm Police full time....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Bank gets behind NZ wildlife icon with sizable donation
    It will be easier than ever this summer for holiday-markers to dip into their pockets to support the yellow-eyed penguin....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • WorkSafe report raises concerns about asbestos
    The union representing construction workers in the Canterbury rebuild is surprised at WorkSafe’s conclusion that no action needs to be taken against EQC and Fletcher EQR over asbestos exposure in Canterbury homes. “This report was an opportunity...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Union accuses SkyCity CEO of misleading public
    Unite Union has accused SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison of misleading the public over the cut in hours for a staff member who raised the issue at the company's AGM....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Last Hurrah on the Taxpayer
    Responding to the NZ Herald report that Hone Harawira spent up $54,000 on the taxpayer in his last three months as an MP, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “It is absolutely disgraceful that an MP managed to rack...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Press statement in relation to search of Nicky Hager’s home
    On 2 October 2014, Nicky Hager's home in Wellington was searched by police. Mr Hager asserted that documents kept at his house were protected by privilege, including because they contained information that might identify confidential sources....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • The Sam Simon arrives into Auckland for new campaign
    This morning Sea Shepherd ship, the Sam Simon, arrived into Auckland harbour after its journey from Melbourne. The ship and its 25 crew from around the globe have come to New Zealand to source supplies and prepare for the upcoming...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Low inflation – time for meaningful wage increases
    With inflation low, now is a good time for workers to negotiate for pay increases that outstrip price rises and deliver real increases in wages and salaries. “For too many people, real pay increases have been missing for several years...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Auckland Rates Rises Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald report that Auckland ratepayers will face an average of a 29 percent rates increase, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “These rate rises show that Len Brown's spending is out of control.”...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Protest at New Plymouth Oil and Gas Expo
    About 30 protesters from Climate Justice Taranaki, Frack-free Kapiti, Te Uru Pounamu Action Group, Oil Free Wellington, Frack-free Manawatu and the east coast protested yesterday outside New Plymouth's biennial Oil and Gas Expo at the TSB Stadium....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • FMA warns consumers about cold-calling investment offers
    The Financial Markets Authority (FMA) is warning New Zealand consumers and investors to be wary of cold-calls asking them to buy shares or put their money into offshore firms....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Comprehensive plan needed to end child poverty
    Child Poverty Action Group says it is vital the newly re-elected National government takes a planned and comprehensive approach to reducing child poverty in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Metiria Gets Feed the Kids
    Yesterday the Speaker of the House advised that he had accepted my request to transfer my Feed the Kids (Education (Breakfast and Lunch Programmes in Schools) Amendment) Bill to Metiria Turei of the Green Party....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • DIA undercover investigation leads to jailing
    An undercover Internal Affairs investigation has led to a Hastings man being jailed for three and half years....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of Balibo Five
    Media Information: Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of journalist Gary Cunningham and the Balibo Five...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Australia and NZ actions on press freedoms alarming
    Global support for investigative journalism in Australia and New Zealand is a welcome response to law changes and a police raid, says the Pacific Freedom Forum...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call for release of French journalists in West Papua
    West Papua Action Auckland, the EPMU Print and Media Council and the NZ Media Freedom Network call on the Minister of Foreign Affairs to speak out in support of the two French TV journalists whose trial has just begun in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Court of Appeal: Dotcom v 20th Century Fox Film Corporation
    A The appeal is dismissed. B The 20 August 2014 order of the High Court dealing with confidentiality and the 29 August 2014 order of this Court dealing with confidentiality are set aside. C The confidentiality orders set out in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Glassons Blasted For Glamourising Animal Cruelty
    Clothing brand Glassons have found themselves embroiled in another controversy after launching a new advert featuring a girl riding a bull. Animal advocacy organisation SAFE have asked them to remove the ad immediately as it glamourises animal cruelty....
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet
    Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet Federated Farmers Bee Industry Group applauds the tough line taken by Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) Border Staff at Auckland Airport. In deporting the couple found trying to smuggle bee products...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Taxpayers’ Union Responds to Joyce on Corporate Welfare
    Responding to Economic Development Minister Steven Joyce’s defence of corporate welfare , Jim Rose, the author of Monopoly Money , a Taxpayers Union report on corporate welfare since 2008, says:...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech from the Throne brings welcome focus on children
    Today’s speech from the Throne confirms the Government’s focus on children, youth and their families in the areas of health, education, youth employment, poverty alleviation and Whānau Ora; now the challenge is to ensure every child in New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • John’s Job Fairs no fix for unemployment and poverty
    “John Key has clearly been looking to the US for his latest bright idea on dealing with employment issues,” says Auckland Action Against Poverty coordinator Sue Bradford. “Job fairs where the desperately unemployed queue in their corporate best to compete...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech From the Throne Foreshadows More Corporate Welfare
    Responding to the Governor General’s Speech from the Throne, which outlined that the Government’s intentions for the next Parliamentary term would include further Business Growth Agenda initiatives, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Green MP to speak at panel on Rainbow Mental Health
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
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  • Chatham Rise mining could have impact on whales and dolphins
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  • Council endorses Nanaia Mahuta as the next Labour leader
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
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  • Announcing a New Voice for The Left
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  • Public services held back by poor workplace culture
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • iPredict New Zealand Weekly Economic & Political Update
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Prison Drug Treatment Unit marks a milestone
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Security Council seat a chance for NZ to empower women
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Waipareira and ACC sign Partnership
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Humanitarian aid desperately needed in Iraq and Syria
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Court Judicial Decision: Dotcom v The USA: 17 October 2014
    The United States of America is seeking the extradition of Messrs Dotcom, Batato, Ortmann and Van Der Kolk. The matter has been before the Courts on numerous occasions, and no further recitation of the facts is needed....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Many tourist car accidents preventable
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • RainbowYOUTH: 25 Years, 25 More
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Outdated Oath shows need for Kiwi Head of State
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Council shouldn’t revenue grab from windfall valuations
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • EPMU endorses Andrew Little for Labour leadership
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • World Food Day promotes Agroecology not GE technology
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Labour Names Review Team
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Contenders for Labour leadership debate for first time
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • UN Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme
    New Zealand's United Nations Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme....
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
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    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Foreign Minister Murray McCully
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