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Written By: - Date published: 6:30 am, September 10th, 2013 - 163 comments
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The last candidates’ meeting is tonight in Christchurch and that means there’s less than a week to get your vote in.

For those of you who are e-voting (as a good many Standardistas will) the vote is open until the last minute – although leaving it to the last minute is probably not the best plan – but for Labour brethren who are postal voting and who live in some of our more remote areas the time available to have your say is fast closing.

And it is vital you do vote. Getting a say in the leadership has been a long time coming and it has been hard won. And with thousands of members turning out to the meetings it looks like this right is well appreciated. But it all counts for nothing if you don’t close the deal.

It’a a great time to be a Labour member. Make sure you use your vote!

163 comments on “Vote!”

  1. Ad 1

    I voted!

    TRP may well be right that Cunliffe only wins on the second round of voting, but that’ll do me.

  2. Red Blooded 2

    Happily popped my vote in the post yesterday. Great to feel like one tiny voice will join in with others to have such a major impact on the party. May the best candidate win.

  3. amirite 3

    LP members, please vote (or kick) the fuckers in the caucus out.
    Signed,
    Labour Party voter

    • fender 3.1

      Some in the caucus are in their own little world imo, maybe they think they are voting in a new PM without the assistance of the voting public. When I hear the likes of Ruth Dyson on the radio this morning saying she is voting for someone the public want the least I can’t help but think we may end up facing another three long years of ShonKey dictatorship.

      • Hami Shearlie 3.1.1

        All the people who are publicly supporting Grant Robertson are the old deadwood types – Why on EARTH should anybody listen to them?? They only care about their jobs and salaries – they don’t give two hoots for the members of the Party or the wider public who are HURTING!!

  4. Sanctuary 4

    *sigh* still no sign of my ballot papers.

    • IrishBill 4.1

      Ring labour HQ asap to double-check you’ve been sent them. I don’t know if there’s a special vote process if papers are lost/too late arriving but I’m sure they’ll be able to do something.

    • Rod 4.2

      Likewise. Despite Head Office assuring me I meet criteria for voting..and assuring me e-ballot would be sent. Where is it??

      • miravox 4.2.1

        Just a thought – could there be a problem with the spam filter on some email addresses, so the email either goes into the trash folder or is deleted?

      • the sprout 4.2.2

        Have contacted Head Office several times, still waiting

      • chris 4.2.3

        if xtra is your email provider it could be lost in space. They have been having troubles since Friday last week.

    • Clement Pinto 4.3

      I gave them a call on Friday and gave my details. Within an hour they sent me an email to say my membership details were verified and my ballot papers would be posted. This morning I queried if they had posted it yet. The email reply said, they were posted yesterday and should arrive today or tomorrow. Looking forward to my post tomorrow.

      P.S : Do they send e ballot details too when they send the ballot papers by post?

    • Neoleftie 4.4

      I got a prompt reply from labour hq, and stated that’d my voting papers were dispatched and would reach me by Thursday…now who to vote for….hmmm.

  5. the sprout 5

    Still waiting for my papers.
    Anyone read Trotter’s article in the Daily Blog on vote rigging?

    • IrishBill 5.1

      I thought it was silly.

      • lurgee 5.1.1

        Very silly. At least he didn’t inflict any of his awful religious allegories and Eastertide twaddle on us. Though if Cunliffe does lose, I think it might provoke an outburst along the lines of “Sold thirty pieces of silver. Who is the Iscariot in the Labour Caucus?” with the moustache at full dudgeon.

    • Jenny Kirk 5.2

      To those still waiting for your papers – get onto Labour HO straightaway. My understanding is that all papers have been sent out.
      As to the Trotter scenario on vote rigging – I’ve been told its impossible. So don’t worry about that!

      • IrishBill 5.2.1

        It pisses me off because it undermines confidence in the (extremely sound) democratic process party members have fought for. On Labour party matters I put Trotter’s commentary in the same box as all the other non-member analysis – best ignored. This is about Labour members and about showing New Zealanders that we’re a strong democratic party – the tea-leaf reading of pundits outside of the process doesn’t come into it.

        • Tim 5.2.1.1

          Totally agree – and I commented at TDB. Can you imagine the response should anyone be caught trying it on anyway!

        • Richard McGrath 5.2.1.2

          It looks like Labour Head Office couldn’t organise a piss-up in a brewery, to use the old cliche.

          • mickysavage 5.2.1.2.1

            Can’t the right wing send us better trolls than Richard?

            • Richard McGrath 5.2.1.2.1.1

              That’s hilarious, I wasn’t ‘sent’ by anyone. But I was surprised at the ineptitude of a party that supposedly prides itself on the democratic process. And by the look of it, a lot of Labour Party members are also surprised – and dismayed.

          • mickysavage 5.2.1.2.2

            How embarrassing is this? I got caught up in the comment filter because I used the word describing creatures who live under bridges …

    • miravox 5.3

      “Anyone read Trotter’s article in the Daily Blog on vote rigging?”

      It seems to me he’s stirring – poses the question and then answers himself with why it’s unlikely. It was discussed yesterday as well, where CV also states here the process is contracted out to Electionz.

  6. Boadicea 6

    I just heard Gower on 3 News ridicule Cunliffe’s reference to Seddon bring a relation. Had Cunliffe’s press people not documented this in their press packs? Does Cunliffe have press handlers on the road with him?

    • Tracey 6.1

      That says far more about Gower than Cunliffe or his team.

    • Colonial Viper 6.2

      Not included in press packs to ensure that there were no leaks before the Blackball meeting.

      • js 6.2.1

        David Cunliffe proudly mentioned his Richard Seddon link at Saturday night’s meeting so hardly a secret by the time of last night’s Blackball meeting

  7. LynWiper 7

    My voting papers finally arrived yesterday, and I’m a South Auckland Rural Delivery address. I was also getting very concerned as I thought the delay might be due to the fact I’d only just rejoined. I e-voted, which I would encourage, as it was so very easy to do. Exciting times!

  8. Ron 8

    I would encourage all who have not received ballot papers to ring HQ don’t rely on email.

  9. the sprout 9

    Have contacted Head Office several times, still waiting

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      They got back to me pretty quick – a day or two after I emailed a quiz into them; I think they’re just swamped at the minute.

      • Virginia Linton 9.1.1

        A bit concerning they can’t cope with a bit of swamp at such a crucial time.

        • Comrade Coba 9.1.1.1

          Just a friendly reminder that the LP is under funded, under staffed, overworked & rely heavily on volunteers like us rank & file. Please pitch (in) rather than bitch. This is the only way to defeat Nact in 2014. I’ve asked my partner to work for 12 months on the campaign, it means down to one income & cutting our cloth, but hey it’s all worth it if we overthrow the current regime.

          Meanwhile over at the newly purchased 2.4 million dollar National Party HQ, the new renovations are being carried out. The teams of highly paid PR contractors & party pleb’s beaver away in a relaxed style.

        • Stephen 9.1.1.2

          There’s a national conference in November and a by-election coming soon, and both those things need a lot of extra organising. They weren’t exactly slacking off before this happened.

          • Virginia Linton 9.1.1.2.1

            Extra donation in the post!

            • Anne 9.1.1.2.1.1

              Well, it’s going to depend on the caucus. If they decide it doesn’t suit them to have a strong leader with oodles of knowledge and experience and choose yet again to thumb their noses at the membership, then I think you will find there will be few foot-sloggers and little by way of extra donations.

              • Hami Shearlie

                Well I know of two very faithful foot-sloggers who have mentioned voting green if Cunliffe is not elected Leader – Who wants a leader with absolutely zero charisma, who tells big porkies on nationwide tv and is unlikely to inspire anyone, or a leader with a type of charisma which will have us all cringing if he goes anywhere overseas?

            • Comrade Coba 9.1.1.2.1.2

              Nice one VL every dollar helps :)

              • Clement Pinto

                Dollar a day….or….every other day….or…..even every now and then from all Labour supporters would be so good for the party.

  10. Linz 10

    We’ve voted! Yay! I do love democracy. We should never take it for granted.

    • miravox 10.1

      Agree, Linz.

      This is what I joined up for. Congrats all the Labour delegates and whoever else who made it possible for members to have a say in who leads the party. (Although I’m still not sold on the transferable voting system)

  11. Sable 11

    No doubt its Cunliffe who will be victorious. The question remains what this means for Labour and for partners such as the Greens. I hope for the best but suspect the worst.

  12. Wayne (a different one) 12

    The next 12 months are going to be great entertainment as the Labour Party self-destructs in full public view.

    This will be the most un-unified Labour Caucus ever – with much blood letting to come, can’t wait for the show to begin.

    Cunliffe is a two faced liar, full of his own shit and egotistical arrogance, who purports to support the underdog, while the “Rich Prick” lives in absolute affluance in the wealthist suburb in New Zealand – the majority of the caucus despise him.

    Robertson’s a gay, who will not connect with “Waitakere Man” – so whilst he has Caucus’s backing, he wont get the support of the unions or the general public.

    And Jones – well least said, we’ll leave that in the Hotel Room.

    So Cunliffe is your man – good luck.

    Meanwhile, National continue to laugh all the way to their next election victory.

    • Ad 12.1

      Key isn’t laughing. The only name on Key’s lips this morning was Cunliffe.
      You don’t need to understand why – the rest of us do.

    • fender 12.2

      Well it’s rather surprising that the richest prick of them all should become PM at all considering that (a dipshit one) argument.

      • Virginia Linton 12.2.1

        What’s wrong with being rich if you’ve worked hard … I’d say that’s a plus for Cunliffe and his wife. Grant being gay is a red herring. Many people couldn’t give a hoot. If he wins good luck to him. If he doesn’t I hope he and his followers shut the hell up and work for the good of the party and New Zealanders. If they don’t, they have to go or be demoted just as David unfairly was. If David is the leader and screws up they’ll have the last laugh. But I hope he gets his chance as Grant was part of the problem during the Shearer leadership (puppet stringed by Grant and colleagues) and doesn’t in my view deserve to be deputy on that basis alone. Let him spend some time on the back benches and reflect on how he got there. He has some building to do with the membership before he can count on the kind of support David is getting. And why has Shane seemingly gazumped Grant in the popularity stakes? Grant should reflect on that too; doubt much of it is due to his being gay. The difficulty is that some of the long-established MPs who have harmed the party and ignored the membership have considerable experience and skills. They can’t have senior roles in a new lineup on that basis alone but if they put a line in the sand and roll up their sleeves should Cunliffe be the leader, Labour as Opposition would be formidable and has a great crack at winning in 2014.

        • Rob 12.2.1.1

          Virginia

          “What’s wrong with being rich if you’ve worked hard “….. my god you dare write that on The Standard, are you on drugs. Could I have some.

          • framu 12.2.1.1.1

            good one rob – because you know that its all about the amount of money one earns – not the way its earned and how you treat others who earn less is what gets lefties riled up isnt it

            any other stupid shit you want to make up today?

            • Rob 12.2.1.1.1.1

              Wow, so only “lefties” are concerned about the way money is ‘earnt’ and how people are being treated, really , and you say I am making shit up. pffffft

          • Clement Pinto 12.2.1.1.2

            Being rich is not the problem. The problem is being rich AND being a government beneficiary with huge tax breaks, dodging taxes, getting subsidies, exploiting workers, being a sub civilised dishonest human.
            They need to be just and realise that their wealth HAS come from society and from those less wealthy. They have to learn to welcome higher tax rates for higher incomes to give some small fair share back to society. Even Warren Buffet says the wealthy should be taxed more.
            The wealthy need to realise the inequity and unfairness in the ever increasing wage, income and wealth gap and disparity between the top and bottom in society due to the uncontrolled exploitative nature of the free market and capitalist philosophy. They need to find ways to reduce this income gap in society.
            There is another point the wealthy need to consider by looking at what happened in China, Russia, France, India, Cuba etc when the masses rose up and revolted against exploitation. In this electronic age, such ‘revolutions’ can easily start any time anywhere when one least expects it. It is in their own interest for the wealthy to change their selfish uncontrolled capitalist greed and embrace socialist ideas in their philosophy.

    • Boadicea 12.3

      Mr King, you are a bitter person. The issues that torment you are inside you. Get help.

    • Crunchtime 12.4

      Wayne,

      If I would call John Key a two-faced liar, full of his own excrement and egotistical arrogance, would you object?

      Because I suggest it’s far more accurate description of Key than it is of Cunliffe.

    • Delia 12.5

      You got a problem with that Wayne, does it mess with your perception that all Labour supporters are low income or on benefits, well though, many of us are’nt.

      • Wayne (a different one) 12.5.1

        Not at all Delia – its just ironic given all we hear from Labour supporters – “is that rich prick Key only thinks of looking after his own wealth and those of all the other rich pricks in business.”

        Somewhat of a contradiction when your consider Cunliffe’s undoubted wealth and living style.

        Not wealth generated at his own hands, but those of his wife (Cunliffes own words).

        He is recognised as a “lazy prick” by many inside parliament – including some inside the Labour Caucus, as I’m lead to believe.

        • Crunchtime 12.5.1.1

          The difference being that Cunliffe hasn’t come from a currency trading background and worked for a company who helped bring about the very GFC he professed to rescue us from. Cunliffe also talks of social justice and a fair go and jobs for all, something John Key never did. Key just waffled about “time for change”, and did his best to paint Labour in a bad light… oh wait, he’s still doing that.

          • Rob 12.5.1.1.1

            Really Crunchtime , you should do some research on Mckinsey & Company consulting. He worked there for a while didnt he?

            Probably responsible for more corporate restructuring, lay offs , redundancies and worker hardship than any Govt sponsored austerity programme. The ultimate asset downsizers, union busters and off shoring specialists.

            Not the best background for a potential Labour NZ leader I would have thought, but you guys will let that one go through to the keeper.

            • Crunchtime 12.5.1.1.1.1

              Interesting. I see no mention of “McKinsey and Company consulting” in Cunliffe’s work history.

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cunliffe_(politician)

              “As a teenager he won a scholarship to study the International Baccalaureate at the United World College of the Atlantic in Wales. David Cunliffe studied politics at the University of Otago, where he was a member of the Otago University Debating Society, and gained a BA with first-class honours. He worked as a diplomat from 1987 to 1994 and gained a Diploma in Social Sciences (Distinction) in economics from Massey University in 1993. He was a Fulbright Scholar and Kennedy Memorial Fellow at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government and Harvard Business School in 1994 and 1995, earning a Master of Public Administration. He worked as a business consultant with Boston Consulting Group in Auckland from 1995 to 1999.”

              Boston Consulting Group is the same sort of thing as McKinsey, so I guess you mixed up the two organisations… unless you know more than wikipedia.

              The two of them along with Bain are the big three in business consulting. They do downsizing and offshoring to maximise the profits and productivity of the companies they work with. I imagine Cunliffe in his early 30s would have learned a lot from the 4 years he was there before he got the hell out and became a politician instead.

              He could have stuck around, and made well off, although not as well off as Key did with currency trading for more than a decade. But instead he bailed and decided to try to make the world a better place one way or another. I admire him for that.

              • Rob

                Sorry I did mean Boston, apologies. However I would also re-iterate that they a run pretty similar focus. In fact Boston is famous for the BCG matrix that invented the term “cash cow” and defined strategies for exiting dog type product & industry strategies. I do think this is a strange background for a proudly left leader, but thne so is saying all this and living in the most highest price suburb in Auckland.

                • Saarbo

                  Ignorant Rob, Mckinsey tended to be all about cutting costs, mainly labour while BCG worked on adding value through improving capacity utilisation (tended to add Labour). Worked with both, BCG = Awesome, McKinsey = Arseholes.

                  Get your facts right because there is quite a big difference in how the two organisations operate.

                  • Rob

                    “Ignorant” , man you are good at flinging the abuse at people and your pompous approach is grating.

                    I too have worked with both , like many others in the corp world, they are big enterprises. I worked with McKinsey in NZ on a large re-engineering project and yes they were terrible and worked BCG in the states on a major manufacturing re-alignment and they were also terrible.

                    My facts are quite correct. Both consultancies have been involved in many restructures, many lay offs and much manufacturing off shoring, if you think that BCG hasn’t then you are the one with ignorant and naive view.

          • Grantoc 12.5.1.1.2

            Yeah but Cunliffe worked for the Boston Consulting Group, a US based private sector global management consulting firm. The investment banks who created the GFC were/are major clients of BCG (including probably the one John Key worked for – Merryl Lynch I think).

            Cunliffe and Key may have even met in that world in days gone by as like minded colleagues.

            Actually some of Cunliffe’s arrogance may stem from this experience too – because consultants at BCG and McKinsey, another like minded management consultancy, were known for their ego’s and their arrogance and for being mightily overpaid. .

        • framu 12.5.1.2

          you did notice that your description of cunliffe and the description you say labour supporters give to key dont actually match up?

          “He is recognised as a “lazy prick” by many inside parliament – including some inside the Labour Caucus, as I’m lead to believe.”

          so possible, maybe, cant prove it, but a few i think in labour think this? So according to your own statement, most of the group who think cunliffe is lazy arent even in the labour party. Whoop dee do!

          that must explain why key keeps trying to scare us off cunliffe then – he feels threatened by his laziness

          • McFlock 12.5.1.2.1

            lol
            I have a few reservations about Cunliffe, but laziness isn’t one of them by any means.

            Next, Tolley will accuse someone of incompetence.

          • Colonial Viper 12.5.1.2.2

            Cunliffe is “lazy” compared to who? Grant Robertson and Shane Jones? LOL the Righties are desperate as!!!

    • Richard McGrath 12.6

      Cunliffe will really be able to relate to the common man… from his $2.5M home in Herne Bay, where he doesn’t have to mix with the dirt-poor proles.

  13. Demelza 13

    I voted last week, but my husband only got his papers yesterday, online voting is great, it’s interesting that they are saying that people’s minds are still not made up, most people I have talked to have known before going to the meeting exactly who they are voting for and have voted as soon as they have their papers, it’s caucus who are possibly holding out.

  14. Crunchtime 14

    Anyone seen the Daily Blog’s post yesterday about the election being fixed?

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/09/09/is-someone-planning-to-fix-labours-leadership-election/

    • Rich 14.1

      I don’t think Electionz would risk their whole reputation by conniving in rigging an election. Especially for the Labour party, where what happened would never, ever leak.

      • Crunchtime 14.1.1

        Yeah… Just realised the author is Chris Trotter. Someone who paints himself as a poster-child of the Left… but forever paints it in a bad light. He’s the worst advocate for the Left and for Labour in particular I can imagine.

        I’m only going on the many articles I’ve read and opinions on natrad I’ve heard, but to me he seems very self-absorbed and self-congratulatory, and it appears journalism isn’t actually his primary interest.

        • Rhinocrates 14.1.1.1

          As I feel about many commentators: Great diagnosis, dubious prognosis, lethal prescription.

    • js 14.2

      It is a bit concerning that many David Cunliffe supporters appear unwilling to accept any outcome except their man winning. If he doesn’t win then that must be a conspriracy or vote rigging. Meanwhile the three candidates seem pretty genuine that they will back the candidate this new democratic process throws up – so perhaps the members should too. (Although personally I would rather Shane Jones didn’t win)

      • Crunchtime 14.2.1

        Grant Robertson is a representative of the ABC lobby, he has the backing of them, the old guard who continue to back neoliberal policy, Nat-lite, that has scared so many people away from the polls altogether.

        Shane Jones is even worse, he’s a pale blue misogynist with too many skeletons in his closet.

        Both of these candidates are representing the right wing of the party. Robertson makes the right noises about being for workers rights, Jones doesn’t even bother.

        The membership has been backing Cunliffe from the start and I wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t too happy with anyone else. I wouldn’t blame them either.

        • Bunji 14.2.1.1

          Grant Robertson does not represent the “right” of the party, no matter who votes for him.

          I think in Grant and David we have 2 highly intelligent, incredibly hard-working, passionate advocates for the left, with a real commitment to making life better for all NZers, not just the elite. One may be wittier and more affable, the other may have more economic cred, but I’ll be proud to have either of them as my party leader.

          Shane Jones has shown himself to be an excellent showman who can get some voters interested in Labour who aren’t currently.

          There is a diversity of opinion among members, unions and caucus. We have set up an excellent democratic process so all get to have their say – those who have to work with the leader on a day-to-day basis and those who do the ground-work to get them elected.

          I think it’s important that we respect that different people have validly held different viewpoints as to who is best to beat John Key and be the better Labour PM after 2014. That spectrum of viewpoints is both in caucus and among members, albeit in different measure.

          Some of the sledging and making unfounded accusations against rivals to their preferred candidate on here makes for some unpleasant reading – and not all of it is from trolls (be they right or left leaning). Whoever wins on Sunday, the process must be respected.

          I strongly suspect it will be Cunliffe, but if it isn’t, it won’t be because caucus “stole the vote” or any rigging or deals – it’ll be that he failed to convince enough Labour people that he should be leader.

          Whoever does win, we need everyone to unify behind that leader, or like Australia, we’ll see a crippled Labour party beaten, and a Tory reign…

        • Chooky 14.2.1.2

          +1 Crunchtime

      • QoT 14.2.2

        Whereas the Grant Robertson supporters have totally been keeping this fight clean. Remind me which team just lost a member due to comments made WEEKS ago which acknowledged, but did not agree with, the very thing Robertson’s team have been screaming blue murder about for the whole campaign?

    • GregJ 14.3

      I think Trotter wrote it after a few beers at said Pub! :twisted:

      It was rambling, not terribly logical or consistent, ill informed and frankly just a bit pointless. I generally like reading what Chris has to say (whether I agree with him or not) but I don’t think this piece will make it into any compilations of his writing. :-?

    • js 15.1

      That is offensive and puerile on so many levels. Reminds me of the nastiness directed by the angry white male extreme right at Helen Clark.

      • fender 15.1.1

        “That is offensive and puerile on so many levels”

        Feel free to expand on that js.

      • the pigman 15.1.2

        +1 js, and you don’t need to explain just because fender is being obtuse…

        Proudly gave DC my first preference, doesn’t mean I think misrepresenting what GR is is in any way cool. And that would be true of 99.9% of DC-voters, I’d imagine.

    • fender 15.2

      Lol, “cool” picture of a duck and a lapdog.

      Good to see there’s at least one gay person who can have a preference not dependant on the sexuality of a candidate.

      “Good on ya Steve Gray!”
      +1

  15. James Thrace 16

    My problem is that all the gays seem to be sticking together in the party for robertson on nothing more than ‘hes one of us’ The amount of assumptions people make that simply because as a gay member of rainbow labour I’m going to roll over and vote for the faghot is wide off the mark. I just nod and smile and publicly voice support for teh gay one, while knifing him in the back with a 1 for Cunliffe. Of course robertson knows all about the twisting knife and how to wield it.

    It appears that the best candidate to win the 2014 election is drowned out by the love in that at last, a gay PM will take the cake – and eat it all too.

    People forget that just because the house overwhelmingly supported queers getting hitched doesn’t mean the wider section of society supports it too.

    As far as I concerned, grant being gay isn’t a red herring, but a very valuable indication of whether NZ as a whole is actually ready for a gay PM who doesn’t know the pain of childbirth, abortion, or even raising a nuclear family with 2.4 kids because like it as not, thats where the majority of voters reside.

    • Crunchtime 16.1

      It IS a red herring. Sorry. Grant just isn’t the most able candidate. He is a very capable politician who may well be ready for the leadership in 6-9 years, but Cunliffe is the strongest personality of the bunch who has the best direction. That’s why he’s the most popular. Simple as that.

      • gobsmacked 16.1.1

        Crunchtime is right.

        First, “teh gayz” are not voting en bloc for Grant. Just read the comments on this blog for daily evidence of that.

        Second – let’s cut to the chase – suppose Grant was straight, and David C was gay? Ask yourselves who you’d want as leader? Changed your mind? Not me. Not many of us, I reckon.

        Cunliffe is the best available candidate, in this contest. And to hell with TV3 Jonolism.

        • Colonial Viper 16.1.1.1

          Correct. Louisa Wall and Charles Chauvel were both for Cunliffe, for example. Btw voted today. I’m backing David :)

    • karol 16.2

      BS, James.

      I am lesbian and have over the last couple of years, always favoured Cunliffe for leader.

      It’s not about sexuality. It’s about the fact of who is most capable to lead, and, for me, who is least likely to continue following the neoliberal way.

      Robertson lacks ministerial experience, speaks well, but has been too aligned with the old guard neoliberals over the last couple of years.

      He is yet to prove to my satisfaction that he is capable of leading the Labour caucus, and to be PM.

      Robertson does very good speeches, and is clearly pretty smart. But that is not enough.

    • Rhinocrates 16.3

      all the gays… where the majority of voters reside

      So “gays” are the Borg? Well, I’m white (pale blue actually, as Billy Connelly said – it takes weeks of tanning to turn us Scots white), straight, cisgendered male blah blah blah. I won’t vote for my clone, but for the most capable.

      The more precisely one defines any individual, the smaller the group becomes, so David Cunliffe matches matches me on a number of points, but he has a different hair colour (and more of it).

      You call sexuality a red herring, but your post shows an overwhelming concern with it, and as is often the case, you shift your bigotry to “the public”, “the majority” and so forth in a weak attempt to divert attention from your bigotry.

      I’ve never known the pain of childbirth and never will. Presumably, that would make me entirely unsuited to comment on, say, literature, commerce, diplomacy… which is what you’re saying.

      I personally do not support Robertson at all, and that’s because I think that he’s a self-interested party apparatchik and that’s all.

      You should stop hiding behind your disguise of “the public” and say straight out (pun intended) that you hate gays.

  16. js 17

    With such narrowminded, smug and bigoted attitudes as displayed in the above comments I certainly wouldn’t want to be on the same side as any of you Whale Oil wannabees.

    • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 18.1

      Jenny?

      • chris 18.1.1

        yes, unfortunately. I have seen some vindictive bitches in my time but Clare Curran takes the cake. Dog awful woman…

        • Rob 18.1.1.1

          Lol, Ruddliffe

        • Anne 18.1.1.2

          The accusation she actually leveled at others was the very accusation that should be leveled at herself. She’s the one who brought the sexuality of a candidate into public focus – not those to whom she is pointing the finger.

          Clare Curran is not worth a 1000 Jennie Michies. I hope Cunluffe wins and tosses her on the bottom rung of the caucus ladder and leaves her there to sulk and whine until she’s gone in 2014.

          This is the 4th or 5th time she’s done it. Remember her allegation of a few years back? The Greens were “white-anting” Labour she said. Can’t remember the details but they were just doing their job.

          • Anne 18.1.1.2.1

            Clare Curran is not worth a 1000 Jennie Michies.

            Oops I think I’ve got that the wrong way around. :( you know what I mean – must go…

            • karol 18.1.1.2.1.1

              So sorry to read that about Jennie Michie.

              It looks like some in the old guard are not going to let go of their position in the Labour caucus quietly.

              I have no gone from hope to despondency again, and wonder how long it’s going to take to get parliamentary Labour back on track.

              Why is the old guard not listening to the people?

              • Bill

                Been thinking about this…and got to wondering what the acting leader of the opposition is going to do about Clare Curran using twitter for tosh and causing Jennie her position as well as introducing scurrilous disruptions and distractions into the leadership contest when she should have followed set procedure and protocol to air any grievance she might have been feeling?

                I’m guessing the answer could be a fair indicator of what to expect should the chips fall a particular way. Credit to David Cunliffe for being quick off the mark and heading off any need to deal with bullshit distractions. And Jennie, if your reading this, my heart goes out to you.

          • the pigman 18.1.1.2.2

            I got what you meant Anne ;)

            Yeah, that white-anting article was on Red Alert around early-mid 2011 if I recall, drove a lot of people away.

            I think people need to actually go and have a look at Clare Curran’s twitter feed to see how absurd it is – she launches a broadside at other DC-associated people, too.

            Just a witch, and unworthy of the ICT portfolio, so I hope there is a fine Green alternative.

      • Anne 18.1.2

        @ Gormless…..

        Not Jenny of climate change fame. Jenny Michie. Two different people.

  17. Richard Down South 19

    Voted… Cunliffe was my choice, and ill proudly say so

  18. hush minx 20

    I think a number of us are shocked that Jen has been asked to step down, for something that happened before the campaign even started, and where she was quite right to suggest the issue is of concern to some (but not her). What action is Grant taking to pull Clare into line given she complained via twitter rather than using the process the candidates signed up to in terms of code of conduct. Perhaps it’s because he knows Jen hasn’t breached the code but he wanted to stir up trouble anyway?

    • gobsmacked 20.1

      Of course Jenny Michie has done nothing wrong. Presumably DC just wanted to kill the story, though it’s probably gonna do the opposite.

      Just 4 days to go. Eyes on the prize. File away Clare’s comments in that bulging file marked “Curran: Unfit to Govern”, and the leader can deal with her later. Not now.

      • BM 20.1.1

        Yep not very clever by Cunliffe.

        Cunliffe doesn’t seem to be very aware of how his actions and behavior are perceived.
        Sort of leader who will lead you to certain death.

        For example
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvenqcfX1j8

        • Tony Moder 20.1.1.1

          That old video BM no one cares.

          • amirite 20.1.1.1.1

            I found a great one of John Key @ Porirua markets:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTE7EEixKvE

          • BM 20.1.1.1.2

            Yes it is old.
            But, anyway
            Did David really think jumping on the back of a truck and putting on a really bad bro voice was a good idea.?
            Did he not think our darker skinned brothers may have been offended.?
            Not very political astute, does rather open you up for attack

            or

            where he lived was due to his wife lactating, really? wtf, obviously he’d thought about this question and in his mind he considered that a good answer?
            Doesn’t say a lot about his judgement

            or

            the whole debacle surrounding last years conference which lead to his colleagues publicly eviscerating him.

            I get the feeling with David, in his own mind he is so awesome and destined for greatness he doesn’t need to listen to others, he’s got all the answers, hence the reason he’s completely oblivious to way he comes across to other people, someone this great can never be wrong.

            In the game of politics where popularity and knowing how to schmooze is so important, Cunliffe get an F-

            • Pascal's bookie 20.1.1.1.2.1

              “Did he not think our darker skinned brothers may have been offended.?”

              The only people I’ve seen complaining about it also tend to steal enough memes from kiwiblog comments and whaleoil that I have doubts about their sincerity, to be honest.

            • Murray Olsen 20.1.1.1.2.2

              Every WhaleSpew reader would have been highly offended. Diddums.

            • Saarbo 20.1.1.1.2.3

              BM, go to Waitite Rugby Club in Te Kuiti (Cunliffe went to school in Te Kuiti) and you will find dozens of pakeha speaking with a maori accent…its common in the smaller towns where all mix together. Just get over it.

              “Did he not think our darker skinned brothers may have been offended.?”

              Whats this about??? Only pakeha are going to read this on the standard??? Clearly being a rwnj is only the start of your problems, racist wanker.

              • BM

                Being Tangata whenua I found the rich white fella from Herne bay offensive.

                • felix

                  Yawn. Whatevs.

                • karol

                  Gee. You must really be offended by the VERY rich white fella from Hawaii.

                • Saarbo

                  Get out of the city BM, problem with you is you only mix with your own. Get out to small town provincial New Zealand and you will see (hear) why you shouldn’t have been.

                  At the Hamilton husting David Cunliffe spoke beautiful te reo maori also.

      • karol 20.1.2

        Did Jones just make a veiled reference to Curran’s monthly cycle?

        Edit: On 3 News tonight, Jones said:

        “Either the moon in Dunedin was in the wrong phase or she’s casting around for a new job,” says Mr Robertson.

        So Jones gets away with any kind of prejudice (re women, gays, etc) and Jenny Michie gets stood down for answering a question.

      • Neoleftie 20.1.3

        That I agree with…but also that cunliffe is about discipline and disire to create real meaningful expectation of the front members of the party.
        Poor Jenny but bad call from Clare too.

    • lurgee 20.2

      And this from a man who wants to lead the Party of the Workers? Did he hire her on a 90 Day Trial or something? For shame!

  19. James Thrace 21

    Er, if you read, im saying I dont support robertson, him being gay isnt as much of a red herring as its promoted to be as simple truth is he won’t resonate with the majority. Cunliffe is the only one with the goods but its annoying that so many tribal members support him solely because hes one of the gays and hey, good to have a pink leader.

  20. Tony Moder 22

    Yep whats done D.C .is done now its make every action from here in count and get rid of that old guard in caucus and the person of the three that is relying on them as his backstop because nobody else actually wants him as the leader.

  21. Peter Revell 23

    this issue galvanized me to vote, two strong people who speak their mind and act on principle, Go Jenny and David

  22. karol 24

    Why is Robertson talking rent controls for Christchurch only? Why not throughout the country?

    Cost of renting in Auckland is unacceptable.

    • big bruv 24.1

      Karol

      “Why not throughout the country?”

      Lol…would you make it compulsory to belong to a parasitic union as well?

      • karol 24.1.1

        Tell that to the people who can’t afford the going rents.

      • QoT 24.1.2

        What’s a parasitic union? Is it like the parasitic 1% who cream money off society and threaten to take their toys home if we tax them fairly?

        • felix 24.1.2.1

          Damn parasitic unions, if they weren’t making me pay above minimum wages and provide semi-decent conditions I’d be able to afford to buy slaves.

    • Saarbo 24.2

      Yes agree karol, rent controls are a great idea in Auckland also. There needs to a be a driver to reduce the attractiveness of investment housing, CGT will go some way but other initiatives need to be looked at.

    • Neoleftie 24.3

      Well talking to grant on twitter it was “ESP in Chch ” also that it would combine with kiwi build and state house rebuild, implies more market intervention,.
      The left block within labour might have found its voice, it’s only been thirty years, go cunliffe and Robertson.

  23. Clement Pinto 25

    I think Clare Curran has done a great disservice to the Labour party and its image. A very stupid thing to do. She needs to be quietly sent packing at the next candidate selection time.

    • chris 25.1

      If Robertson is serious about uniting the factions within the Labour Party he would have chastised Curran.

      No leadership skills and even less mana…

      • Saarbo 25.1.1

        That is a fair point. Curran’s behaviour is really unfortunate and completely against the spirit of how the 3 candidates are running the competition…he needs to do something.

      • Neoleftie 25.1.2

        She means well in a silly naive amateur way…Robertson is all behind the scenes person I think.

        • chris 25.1.2.1

          There is nothing “well meaning” or “naïve” in Curran’s tweet. Definitely amateurish and petty.

        • miravox 25.1.2.2

          “Robertson is all behind the scenes person I think”

          Yes. Walks in as part of the team when it goes well for those who make the play, and then walks in as the one not involved when the play turns to custard. Make me wonder what Robertson really thinks about anything.

      • Hami Shearlie 25.1.3

        +1000

  24. big bruv 26

    Not sure why so many of the hard lefties here think that the Nats’ are running scared of Cunliffe.

    I desperately hope he wins the Labour party leadership, if two thirds of the Labour caucus have worked out that the man is odious then I don’t think it will take the public long to work that out for themselves.

    Please let it be Cunliffe, he and only he can assure the Nat’s of at least one more term.

  25. amirite 27

    It was great to see a good, interesting, civilised campaign for the Party leadership. The only tarnish was coming from a few party unfaithful and the media, desperate to find some shit to stir. It says more about them, than the candidates themselves.

    I doubt the Nats would’ve ever been able to pull a campaign like that, not in a million years. They simply don’t get the meaning of the word ‘democracy’.

    I hope we’ll see the last of Key in 2014.

    Signed,
    a life-long Labour voter (not a Party member).

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  • NZ goes backwards on gender equality
    It is no coincidence that in the same week New Zealand is singled out for going backwards on child poverty under National,  we’ve also dropped in global rankings for gender equality. In one year New Zealand has dropped from 7th...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Kevin Hague questions the Minister of Health on management of Katherine Ric...
    Is he satisfied that all conflicts of interest that arose by the head of Food and Grocery Council Katherine Rich being a member of the Health Promotion Agency were managed in accordance with the provisions of the Crown Entities Act...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Bennett parks numbers on social housing
    Social Housing Minister Paula Bennett admitted today that well over 1000 families have been subsidised through the accommodation supplement to stay in the Ranui campground, somewhere she has previously described as not the right place for children to be growing...
    Labour | 30-10
  • 50,000 sign petition against anti-worker law
    More than 50,000 Kiwis have signed Labour’s petition against the Government’s scrapping of tea break entitlements, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “That’s the equivalent of five people signing our petition every minute for a week. It shows the...
    Labour | 30-10
  • Address in Reply Debate – Dr Kennedy Graham on UN Security Council- 2...
    In the Speech from the Throne last week the Prime Minister identified the usual domestic goals for his Government. I counted 17. They are not my subject today. I wish instead to focus on matters beyond our shores. In the...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Climate change harming ocean health
    New Zealand is responsible for one of the largest areas of sea in the world – an area 14 times the size of our land area. The National Government is promising new marine protected areas legislation with a discussion document...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Key misled public over Jason Ede
    Information contained in a new chapter of the book Key: Portrait of a Prime Minister, that Jason Ede stopped working for the National Party on the night the book Dirty Politics was released, shows Mr Key and senior ministers hid...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Greenpeace report highlights better path for NZ agriculture
    A Greenpeace International report highlights a better way forward for New Zealand agriculture than the GE and chemical mutation technologies supported by Federated Farmers, and the National Government through its research funding packages, the Green Party said today. "This report...
    Greens | 29-10
  • BNZ post record profits while leaving savers vulnerable
    A small part of the $850 million record profit posted by the Bank of New Zealand (BNZ) today needs to be set aside to protect savers' deposits in the future, said Green Party Co-leader Dr Russel Norman today.Dr Norman was...
    Greens | 29-10
  • RBNZ U-turn shows monetary settings were wrong
    The Reserve Bank's U-turn on interest rates today shows monetary policy settings were wrong and New Zealanders have suffered unnecessarily through the loss of jobs and having to pay higher interest rates, the Green Party said today.Reserve Bank Governor Graeme...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Ports must take responsibility for shameful death toll
    Port companies must step up and take responsibility for a shameful toll of seven deaths and 133 serious accidents in the past three years, Labour MP Iain Lees-Galloway says. The frightening figures – released by the Rail, Maritime and Transport...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Please help me get my Feed the Kids Bill to Select Committee
    Last week I took over the Feed the Kids Bill that Hone Harawira had introduced to Parliament. If passed, my Bill will provide government-funded breakfast and lunch in all decile 1 and 2 schools. Hungry kids can’t learn and are...
    Greens | 29-10
  • TVNZ Outsourcing Pasifika and Maori Programmes
    I’ve always been a big fan of our state broadcaster and I’ve particularly liked their range of current events programmes. But after Friday’s announcement that TVNZ will be sacking up to 40 staff by contracting out the Pacific and Maori...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Labour urges iwi leaders to meet with National
    Labour’s Māori Caucus has called on iwi leaders and national Māori organisations to seek urgent meetings with the National Government to directly express their concerns about employment law changes which will harm Māori workers. In an open letter sent today...
    Labour | 29-10
  • ACC’s reputation needs fix, not glitz
    Restoring public trust and confidence in ACC will take a lot more than a new communications strategy or social media blitz, says Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway. “Under National, ACC has come to be perceived as insensitive, difficult to deal...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Lessons to be learned from police investigation
    The outcome of the so-called Roast Busters case should not put victims off reporting sexual crimes, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “This case has been mishandled from the start. Within days of police initially saying no charges had...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Anti-worker legislation is anti-Pacifica
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga, will go down in history as being part of a Government that harmed his own people through anti-worker legislation, says Labour’s Pacific Island Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “Pacific people are among...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Five-year tax holiday for overseas tax dodgers
    National has just gifted a five-year tax holiday for foreign companies dodging their tax payments, says Revenue spokesperson David Clark. “Todd McClay has pretended he is doing something about overseas companies dodging their tax duties by joining an international initiative...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Traffic Jam Tax must be given the red light
    Auckland Council’s proposed Traffic Jam Tax could cost some households thousands of dollars a year just to use roads they had already paid for with their taxes and must be rejected, says Labour’s transport and Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 29-10
  • National has chance to show leadership on limos
    The National Party has the opportunity to show leadership by transitioning our vehicle fleet towards renewable electricity when a new contract to supply Government limousines for VIPs goes to tender next month, the Green Party said today. "This is a...
    Greens | 29-10
  • The Māori Party can’t have it both ways over labour laws
    The Māori Party has to fess up over its voting record on the Employment Relations Amendment Bill, says Labour’s Māori Caucus.  “It’s simply not good enough to oppose the bill at the same time  as they helped speed up its progress through...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Equal pay and the aged care sector
    Today the High Court upheld the historic ruling by the Employment Court that our Equal Pay Act could be used to consider work of equal value cases; the government has been telling the UN and ILO that it could for...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Court case perfect opportunity for Government to improve gender pay gap
    If the Government wants to halt New Zealand’s slump in international rankings on the gender pay gap it should act on the court finding that women deserve equal wages, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “The World Economic Forum’s...
    Labour | 28-10
  • All Auckland transport options should be considered
    All options for meeting Auckland's transport needs should be considered, including reprioritising the transport budget away from wasteful spending on motorways, the Green Party said today.Auckland mayor Len Brown is today releasing a transport report by the Independent Advisory Board,...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Another report highlights Govt failure on child poverty
    An international report measuring the impact of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) on child poverty rates, showing children in New Zealand have done worse than children in other countries, is further proof the Government needs to urgently take additional steps...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Child poverty: No more wake-up calls
    A new report which shows the National Government has made no inroads whatsoever into child poverty should do more than just set alarm bells ringing, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “UNICEF’s  latest Innocenti Report Card highlights the fact...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Eugenie Sage speaks in the 2014 Address in Reply Debate
    I congratulate you, Assistant Speaker Mallard, as Assistant Speaker and look forward to your knowledge, your fairness, and your light touch in being a referee of proceedings in this House. I congratulate also the other Assistant Speaker, Lindsay Tisch; the...
    Greens | 28-10
  • James Shaw’s Maiden Speech
    Tena Koe, Mr Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to speak a little of the past, the present and the future. The privilege to serve in this Parliament was given to me by all those who gave their...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Govt airs real views on public broadcasting
    An admission by the Government that it is happy to experiment with Pacific and Maori audiences shows just how weak its vision for public broadcasting in New Zealand is, Labour’s Broadcasting spokesperson Kris Faafoi says. “National today admitted it doesn’t...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Does Judith Collins have a get out of jail card?
    Former justice minister Judith Collins appears to have been gifted a get out of jail free card based on the Prime Minister’s answers in Parliament today, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “Judith Collins claimed in an Official Information...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Solid Energy decision delay sensible
    Today’s announcement by the Board of Solid Energy that it will delay making a final decision on re-entering the Pike River mine is a sensible move, Labour’s MP for  West Coast-Tasman Damien O’Connor says. “It has been clear for some...
    Labour | 28-10
  • New York Green Bank off to a $1B start
    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced late last week the New York Green Bank’s first NZD$1 billion tranche of green energy investments. The projects, which are difficult for the private sector to finance, are now possible by New York Green...
    Greens | 28-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Blockade the Budget
    The ‘Independent’ Police Conduct Authority’s report into the policing of student protests in 2012 is a whitewash The report released by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is a whitewash riddled with inaccuracies....
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • When National claim new anti worker laws provide ‘flexibility’ they mea...
    And so it comes to pass. The first law National ram through as part of their victory march are new anti worker laws they pretend will generate ‘flexibility’. The new law denigrate the unions ability to protect workers and provide...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • City Transport: A Taxing Matter
    This week the prospect of paying tolls on Auckland motorways became a hot topic. (See Mathew Dearnaley:Motorway tolling could hit some hard, NZ Herald, 30 Oct 2014.) As we might expect, the kneejerk response has been quite negative. But, as with...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Open Letter to Amy Adams: Please Reopen The Review Into Sexual Violence Cou...
    Ms Amy Adams, Justice and Courts Minister, Right now in this country it seems that although rape is illegal, it is not being prevented by the agents who uphold the law. It almost feels like rape is only illegal on paper,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Things That Make You Go Hmmmmmmm
    Every so often in politics, a public figure comes out with something so absurd and so outlandish … that it really does just make you go “Hmmmmmmmmmm”. We’re accustomed to this from certain quarters – by mid point through the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Poverty & inequality don’t need protest marches – they need a riot:...
    The global level of inequality continues to skyrocket… Number of billionaires doubled since financial crisis The number of billionaires has doubled since the start of the financial crisis, according to a major new report from anti-poverty campaigners. According to Oxfam,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • If Key knows who Rawshark is…
    I’m sorry, what? John Key ‘given Rawshark’s name’The Prime Minister believes he knows who hacked Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater’s computer and produced the source material for Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics, according to a new edition of a recently published...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Child Poverty stats in NZ
    Child Poverty stats in NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Crimes Act + Police Investigation = WTF
    Just to frame the farce that is the Roastbuster’s investigation and conclusion – here are the parts of the Crime Act http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/whole.html#DLM329057  the Roastbusters are proven to have violated – that the police (and some suspects!) themselves acknowledge occurred: Crimes...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Publishing Journalists’ Home Addresses Is A Tactic Of The Right, Not The ...
    I think I’m starting to get rather annoyed with the conduct of some pro-MANA people over this ongoing Parliamentary Services crew complement issue. Yes, we get that there are legitimate issues to be raised with how some political reporters in...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Aucklanders caught between a tarseal-addicted government and a weak mayor
    Len Brown’s proposal for motorway tolls to reduce congestion and provide funding for better public transport is a weak response to a critical issue. The $12 billion dollar shortfall on transport funding he talks about is mainly for projected new...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • A Very Weird Story: Deconstructing Darren Aronofsky’s Noah.
    NOAH is a curious movie. Conceived as a biblical epic, it’s target audience was originally the millions of Americans who regard the Bible as God’s inerrant word. With the sin-filled works of Hollywood forbidden to these true-believers, Christian movie-makers have developed...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • You Can Get Away With Rape In New Zealand
    Jessie Hume with last years petition against rape     The police have sent a strong message today.  In fact they’ve been sending a strong message for a while; a message that our government supports. “You can literally get away...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Roast Buster case – no charges. In the immortal words of NWA…
    Roast Busters case: No prosecutions Police are to make an announcement this afternoon on Operation Clover, the investigation into the “Roast Busters” allegations. The Herald understands the victim has been told that the alleged offenders will not be prosecuted due...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Key’s flag change distraction to cost $26million!
    No. Way. Bid to change NZ flag to cost millions The cost of holding two referendums and consulting on a change of flag has been estimated to be just under $26 million. Look. We all appreciate that the sleepy hobbits...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Why NZ Herald’s Labour Party crocodile tears are so audacious
    The front page the NZ Herald would use if they thought they could get away with it No one can take the recent columns by NZ Herald seriously… John Armstrong: Shadow lingers on National John Roughan: Labour’s leadership vote matters...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • The beginning of the end of Cameron Slater?
    Slater postings on man bizarre, court told A businessman has changed his appearance and had to install extra security at his home after Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater posted his business and personal documents online, he says. Mr Slater has...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • We are a milk power republic and Fonterra our unelected senate
    Wow. Just wow… Deputy mayor says he’ll be sacked South Taranaki deputy mayor Alex Ballantyne says he expects to be sacked because he has spoken out about the impact gasses coming from dumped Fonterra dairy products have had on his...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: “…But *actually* this is about ethics in political-game jo...
    Yesterday, a piece of mine on the recent revelations about Hone Harawira employing several gentlemen either accused or convicted of sex offences was published on The Daily Blog. Predictably, given the fierce loyalty which Hone inspires in his party faithful and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Privilege cheque
    There was no race problem in my childhood. Living in central Wellington I was well-insulated from what was going on not so far away. This was the 60s and 70s, where the teachers enjoyed free love in the staff room...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • A brief word on Key’s claim that it will be raining carnage
    Isis will ‘rain carnage on the world’ – John Key Left unchecked Isis would “rain carnage on the world”, Prime Minister John Key says, but he has yet to make a decision on whether New Zealand troops will join a...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Meanwhile…
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    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • How does Andrew Little win Labour Leadership and unify the caucus?
    Audrey Young’s excellent column on how the Caucus vote  is shaping up shows how Andrew Little becomes the next leader of the Labour Party. She identifies the factions as the following… Andrew Little 6: Andrew Little, David Cunliffe, Iain Lees Galloway,...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Right of response to Curwen
    You have asked that Hone Harawira deserves to explain what happened, how would he explain when his next door neighbour is an alleged sex offender. What explanation can Hone offer he wasn’t involved, Hone had no idea this offending was...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: That Hella-Weird Feeling When You Defend Tova O’Brien
    Oh dear. Yesterday morning I blogged that Hone deserved a chance to explain what exactly had happened as applies his office’s Parliamentary Services crew complement – and, importantly, that we deserve to be able to judge him on the strength of...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Canadian Green MP warns against harsh anti-terror measures
    Canada’s Green Party has provided a welcome counterpoint to Prime Minister Harper’s call for tougher anti-terrorism laws in the wake of a soldier outside the Canadian Parliament. On October 22, while she was still locked in her parliamentary office, Green...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • When is an asset sale not an asset sale? When it robs from the poor and ste...
    National have turned state housing on its head. At no time during the 2014 election did the Key Government even hint that they were going to privatise 30% of the Housing NZ stock of state homes. Not once. Key even...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part To...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Rua) . Bill English comes clean on National’s intentions for HNZ privatisation . On 14 October, in a report on The Daily Blog, I wrote, In...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • The Questions Have Been Asked – They Deserve An Answer
    A few days ago, allegations that had been percolating for some time about Hone Harawira employing three either accused or convicted sex offenders on his Parliamentary pay-roll came to light. (one imprisoned before working for MANA; one who found himself convicted and...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • I have seen one future, and it is bleak
    . . Back in  March 2012, I wrote this story regarding a march to support striking workers at Ports of Auckland. It appears there was some prescience about some of my observations at the time… . | | 18 March...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • US air strike war Key wants us in has killed a civilian a day so far
      The US air strike war that John Key wants us to join has killed a civilian a day so far. From the Washington Post... The United States launched its first airstrikes on militants in Syria on Sept. 23, and has continued...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • The instant Jihad syndrome
    My favourite new term is ‘self-radicalised’ – it suggests the reasons for terrorism are totally divorced from the actions of the West. This need to suddenly ramp up terror laws because of lone wolf, self-radicalised Jihadists seems convenient and counter-productive....
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • We have nothing to fear from Ebola but fear itself
    I suspect most Americans perceive Ebola like this   I can’t work out if the fear being spread within the media about Ebola is deliberate or just ignorance. Yes Ebola is a terrible plague that kills a large percentage of...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – “Meritocracy? I wish.”
    I’d like to start by linking to a post I had published at another site in support of Nanaia Mahuta for the Labour Party leadership election.  She has a reasonable chance, given that she already has the endorsement of Te...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Chocolate milk shortage and creepy Santa? Let’s talk about real news
    Child poverty is still a scarily serious problem in this country and house prices are soaring through the roof to the point where it is simply impossible for the average New Zealander to buy a home. There is also little...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • It’s time to celebrate Kiwi schools and teachers
    Some would have you believe that New Zealand’s schools are in a state of collapse, that your children are not being educated well and that things are going to hell in a hand basket.  That there is no innovation, no...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Ideological Blitzkrieg – Privatization of state housing, more charter sch...
    Pundits in pundit land will tell you that this Government is boring, that Key is the great pragmatist and that it is his ability to create elegant solutions that keeps him the firm favourite in many Kiwi eyes. This ability...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • Hegemony rules but resistance is fertile
    The Prime Minister is a puppet. Not just our current Prime Minister, but given the forces of multinational globalisation, the role of any head of state, is less as independent actor, and more as a puppet of international trends and...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • An open Letter to Sir Bob Jones: demanding a ‘liveable wage’ is not “...
    How out of touch with reality is Sir Bob Jones? You know, that white dude who invested in privatised SOEs after the selling off of our assets in the eighties and made a ludicrous and disgusting amount of money and is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • My insecurity about the Security Council
    As I write this (on 24 October) it is international UN Day. Of course, you all knew that already, right? Well, the day celebrates the entry into force of the UN Charter in 1945. With the ratification of this founding...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Back in That House
    Parliament opened this week and I still find it a very odd place. Most of the people are reasonably courteous and friendly, but the rituals are archaic and the rules around issues like the swearing in oath are oppressive and...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Marae Investigates No More
    TVNZ yesterday announced the closure of their Māori and Pacific programmes department. That means they’ve chosen to stop making Fresh, Tagata Pasifika, Waka Huia and Marae Investigates to let independent producers get their hands on these lucrative contracts. This is...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • BLOGWATCH: An Un-Civil War in Labour, eh?
    Earlier today, my attention was directed to an entry that’s just recently appeared on the Slightly Left of Centre blog. It purports to contain the ‘inside word’ from a highly placed NZF source – which is funny, because I’m pretty sure...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Santanomics 101
    Santanomics could mean a number of things. It could be the study and practice of giving. Or it could mean the study and practice of rampant end-of-year commercialism. However, for me today it is the economics of erectingAuckland’s giant Santa...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • SkyCity boss misleads public over workers lost shifts
    SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison has defended the employment practices at his company in an “Opinion” piece entitled “Human Capital key to corporate success” in the NZ Herald on Thursday. A number of his claims are misleading, contain only partial truths...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Review: Perfect Place
    I went to a Perfect Place on Tuesday night, and what a delight it was. The marshmallows sweetly (and forcefully) handed out pre-show, set the tone for the next hour. Walking up the stairs at The Basement was a complete...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • Roast Busters: Turn Indignation into Action
    People raged about the Roast Buster case. The indignation was justified – it was horrible. “Where were their parents!?” Fair question. I am sure the Roast Busters’ parents and the victims’ parents all wish they had been more proactive in...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Stats NZ only have themselves to blame for postponement
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says Statistics NZ only have themselves to blame for the indefinite postponement of the release of the Food Price Index: November 2014....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • NZ Diversity Survey – benchmarking workplace diversity
    AUT University’s New Zealand Work Research Institute (NZWRI) has released a report on diversity in New Zealand workplaces....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Māori Language (Te Reo Māori) Bill
    Tutehounuku Korako, Chair of the Māori Affairs Committee, is inviting further public submissions on this bill. The closing date for submissions is Friday, 5 December 2014....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • ERA amendments a mixed bag
    The Employment Relations Amendment Act has the potential to put vulnerable workers in a more precarious position, says Equal Opportunities Commissioner, Dr Jackie Blue. However, the commissioner says the right for all to request flexible work hours is...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Sensible Sentencing calls for appeal of judicial activivism
    The Sensible Sentencing Trust is appalled that Justice Jill Mallon has today refused to apply the Life without Parole (LWOP) provisions of the Three Strikes law as enacted by Parliament....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Global Rally against ISIS – for Kobanê – for Humanity, Nov 1
    The New Zealand Kurdish Community will march in solidarity with Kurdistan as part of the “GLOBAL RALLY AGAINST ISIS – FOR KOBANÊ – FOR HUMANITY” on 1 November 2014, 2pm....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Safer roads are better for everyone
    Recent pedestrian versus vehicle incidents highlight the real issues being addressed by delegates as the 2Walk and Cycle conference concludes....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Law change creates more flexible labour market
    The Employment Relations Amendment Act, passed yesterday, will bring new flexibility to the labour market and will reduce the ability of unions to organise and to recruit....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Bumper ANZ profits mean no excuse for insecure hours
    A big rise in profits at New Zealand's largest bank needs to be reflected in a better pay offer and more security around hours of work, the bank workers’ union said today....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Count down to lowered alcohol limit
    With just a month to go until a new lower alcohol limit for adult drivers comes into effect, Police and road safety agencies are reminding drivers of the impending change....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • WorkSafe Supports Forestry Review Findings
    WorkSafe NZ says the Independent Forestry Safety Review has clearly identified the problems facing an industry in which ten workers were killed last year. “The Review’s analysis matches our own view and leaves no doubt about the need for comprehensive,...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CTU welcomes forestry review recommendations
    The CTU is welcoming the today's release of the independent forestry safety review panel findings. "These recommendations must be implemented to ensure that everything possible is done to make forestry safer." CTU President, Helen Kelly said....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Activists will confront animal abusers
    Today animal rights activists will confront a group of wealth advisers who want to build the biggest egg factory-farm in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Turia: Women’s Refuge Conference 2014
    This is a milestone moment in my life. This will be my last official address as Co-leader of the Maori Party. On Saturday night at our Hui-a-Tau, I will be standing down from that role and enabling a new co-leader,...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rodeo Code of Welfare ‘Sick Joke’
    Animal advocacy organisation SAFE says the revised Code of Welfare for Rodeos just released is nothing but a sick joke. “Rodeo animals are goaded, tormented and forced to endure needless suffering and gross mistreatment, all for the sake of so-called...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Conservative Party applauds binding referenda on flag
    The Conservative Party are congratulating the Government on the decision to hold two binding referendums to decide the fate of New Zealand’s flag – and believes it will pave the way for binding referenda to form part of New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Walk the Talk – Opposing violence against women
    Soroptimist International of Auckland have organised a walk on 22 November from Silo Park at the Wynyard Quarter through the Viaduct and back to Silo Park, to show their opposition to violence against women. This event hopes to raise awareness...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Recommendations on the Design of Pecuniary Penalties
    The Law Commission has reviewed the use of pecuniary penalties as a regulatory tool. Pecuniary penalties are financial penalties that policymakers are increasingly opting to use in place of criminal sanctions in order to punish and deter misconduct in...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Every worker will be affected by employment law changes
    Every worker will feel the effects of the government’s new employment laws and should join a union if they want to maintain and increase their wages and conditions, says New Zealand’s largest private sector union, the EPMU....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Shameful attack on all workers
    The Government has passed the Employment Relations Amendment Act slashing the rights of all Kiwi workers. “These changes are shameful. New Zealand now has some of the worst employment protections in the OECD. It is embarrassing that a country which...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Unnecessary law changes more to do with ideology
    The government’s employment law changes are simply ideological and are at odds with its approach in the related areas of health and safety and immigration law, FIRST Union said tonight....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CTU Runanga calls on iwi leaders
    Maori workers are calling on iwi leaders to speak out against the employment law changes expected to go through today. “Iwi leaders have previously spoken out when workers in Aotearoa have been under attack, we believe they should do so...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Educating children not the best solution to alcohol harm
    Alcohol Healthwatch says we need to look beyond educating children and young people to address deeply embedded attitudes and behaviours concerning alcohol....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • New code of welfare for rodeos released
    New standards to strengthen the animal welfare requirements for rodeos have been issued today by the Minister for Primary Industries, Nathan Guy....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • IPCA report riddle with inaccuracies, say students
    A report by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is riddled with inaccuracies, say students who laid the original complaint with the IPCA....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CT v The Queen – indecency convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rameka v The Queen – murder convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Auckland Council Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald article that some Auckland households will face a rates rise of up to 9.6 per cent next year, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “Len Brown’s pledge to cap rates rises at 2.5 per...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Stats NZ staff escalate action with ‘no more meetings’ rule
    Statistics NZ staff have voted to escalate their ongoing industrial action in an effort to get Stats NZ back to the bargaining table with a reasonable offer. The staff, who are members of the Public Service Association (PSA), have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Rape Crisis calls for changes to criminal justice system
    Wellington Rape Crisis has added its voice to the public outcry following the announcement that there will be no charges in the teen rape gang case. Butterworth says the decision not to lay charges will not have been a surprise...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Police action justified in Blockade the Budget demonstration
    Police actions in dealing with a demonstration in Central Auckland known as Blockade the Budget on 1 June 2012 were justified and appropriate, an Independent Police Conduct Authority report released today found....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • NZDF Joins with Australia to Commemorate WWI Centenary
    A contingent of New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel will join their Australian counterparts at Australia’s first major commemoration of the First World War centenary in Albany, Western Australia this weekend....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Reserve Bank should reduce interest rate
    “The Reserve Bank should be reducing its policy interest rate, the OCR”, says CTU Economist Bill Rosenberg in response to the Bank’s announcement today that it is not increasing it....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • 2015 Stout Fellow will write about Māori & Criminal Justice
    Kim Workman, founder and advocate for the Robson Hanan Trust, which administers the Rethinking Crime and Punishment and Justspeak initiatives, has been awarded the 2015 John David Stout Fellowship at Victoria University....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • What John Key thought about ‘dirty politics’
    On September 20, John Key swept to victory to become one of New Zealand’s most successful and popular Prime Ministers. Rocked by scandal, the 2014 election campaign was one of the most brutal – and riveting – in recent history....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Trade Deal Threatens Farmers and Food Businesses
    The secret Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations are a direct threat to food businesses and farmers, and a moratorium on the release of GE crops must be enshrined in law before the TPP is signed....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • CTU announces election of new Secretary
    The contested election for the position of CTU Secretary has been won by Sam Huggard. Sam officially takes office on Monday 1 December 2014. Sam has worked in the union movement and brings a wealth of experience and a commitment...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kim Workman awarded 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship
    The Victoria University of Wellington 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship, funded by the Stout Trust, has been awarded to justice reform advocate Kim Workman. Mr Workman (Ngati Kahungungu ki Wairarapa, Rangitaane) is well known for his work on criminal justice,...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • TPPA causing concern
    Concern over the secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) negotiations is being expressed in two public meetings over the next week; one at a presentation on 5th November by former councillor Robin Gwynn to the Napier City Council, the...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kiwis rally to demand justice for ‘Roast Buster’ survivors
    Over 1,500 kiwis have rallied to demand justice after the announcement of the NZ Police decision not to lay charges in the ‘Roast Busters’ saga....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • New employment law will hurt the most vulnerable NZers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says changes to the Employment Relations Act, expected to be passed in Parliament tonight, will hurt vulnerable workers and their families more than anyone....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Consultation to close on proposed place names
    The New Zealand Geographic Board (NZGB) Ngā Pou Taunaha o Aotearoa today advised that only one month remains before public consultation closes for 18 name proposals for geographic features and places around Te Ika ā Māui (the North Island)....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Operation Clover – Statement from Police Commissioner
    I have taken a close interest in this investigation and I am confident police have conducted a thorough and professional enquiry in what has been a challenging and complex case. The Operation Clover team has ensured that victims have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Better policy would have protected children from recession
    Child Poverty Action Group says an international report released by UNICEF today shows good policy can protect and improve child well-being, even during a recession....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Outcome of Operation Clover investigation
    Police have completed a multi-agency investigation, Operation Clover, into the activities of a group calling themselves “The Roast Busters”. The 12 month enquiry focused on incidents involving allegations of sexual offending against a number of girls...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • False birth registration brings home detention
    A Whangarei woman who attempted to register the birth of a fictitious child to claim a sole parent benefit was sentenced to six months home detention in the Whangarei District Court today....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Family of Robert Ellis demand a proper investigation
    The family of a New Zealander killed in Indonesia are growing increasingly concerned at the lack of information they’ve received, and the handling of the investigation into his murder....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Minister of Health must account for aged care workers’ pay
    The New Zealand Federation of Business and Professional Women (BPW NZ) congratulates rest-home worker Kristine Bartlett on her landmark claim for equal pay from her employer and successfully pursuing this to the Court of Appeal....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
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