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Wealth creators

Written By: - Date published: 7:48 am, August 27th, 2011 - 79 comments
Categories: capitalism, class war, socialism - Tags: ,

Dr Campbell Jones (Senior Lecturer in Sociology, University of Auckland) had an excellent piece in the Dom Post yesterday.  Some extracts are below, but the whole article is well worth a read.

The secret to making money

Who creates wealth?

Last month we learned that the “wealth creators” of this country have done remarkably well, in spite of the global economic situation. We were told in the National Business Review’s annual rich list that this is cause for celebration, given the wealth of the 151 richest individuals “has climbed a pleasing $7 billion from last year to sit at $45.2 billion, the highest ever”.

We also learned that over the last year incomes for most fell in real terms, and that 17 per cent of primary school children sometimes or always miss breakfast.

How best to understand that these things are possible at the same time? For some, there is nothing that can be done. We must simply live with this situation. Indeed, those concerned about these increasingly unequal distributions of wealth, income, power and privilege have been dismissed as “tall poppy bashers” or as being motivated by “envy”.

Central to such dismissal is the idea that whoever has wealth has created it by and for themselves. This sounds like meritocracy, that is, the idea that whoever puts in an effort merits reward. But this is meritocracy on its head. It assumes that just because someone is rewarded, they deserve that reward. This false meritocracy need not look at what anyone actually does. It reads reality backwards, imagining that those who have wealth are by definition the ones who have created it. …

Wealth is not created out of nothing. Wealth is not produced merely by the ideas or actions of isolated individuals. We produce things of value through our action on the material world and through the application of science and technology and the skill of social cooperation to that action. And as anyone who works knows, we work with others and for others in order to produce things of value. …

79 comments on “Wealth creators”

  1. whistlerspa 1

    It’s seems pretty obvious to me. Living in a finite world with limited resources, if one person or group becomes more ‘wealthy’ and has more, others must become poorer and have less

    • mik e 1.1

      Speculative investing is not covered in his naive spin

    • aerobubble 1.2

      People demand goods and services, they enter into contract with suppliers of these
      goods and services, on the basis of both parties benefit by giving up something they
      want less. The buyer gives up cash, and the sellor the time or resources they have spent.
      Everyone wins.

      In a cheap oil world people lost touch with how much cash was worth, they fooled
      themselves thinking that it was cheaper than it really was, so cheap they borrowed
      heavily believing they could pay it all back. The speculators then hoarded this money
      and got very wealthy. This debt is now stinking up the western world, because the
      Chinese, and the Mother Earth are now suggesting that they can’t pay it all back.

      we all lose when the wealthy didn’t earn their wealth. Which they haven’t.
      Since people were conned, and are now far worse off.

      • mik e 1.2.1

        France right wing govt increases taxes on the wealthy maybe Key might do the same here ha ha!Italy to Right wing running out of excuses to pander to small minority

        • aerobubble 1.2.1.1

          Italy is run by someone very close to be indicted, he has good reason to do the
          right thing. Unlike our b@rstools parliament.

    • Thomas 1.3

      if one person or group becomes more ‘wealthy’ and has more, others must become poorer and have less

      When was the last time you went shopping? Obviously the shop owner became wealthier because you gave him/her your money. So who got poorer? who has less? Was it you? If you did get poorer or now have less, why did you go shopping? Why didn’t you just stay home and stay wealthier?

      Or is it possible that both you and the shop owner are better off because of your shopping trip?

      • whistlerspa 1.3.1

        I’m not talking about money here but real tangible assets and commodities. Of course you can ‘make’ as much money as you like – it isn’t real

        • Thomas 1.3.1.1

          But both you and the shopowner are better off as a result of your trade. That’s a basic law of economics: people don’t trade unless both expect to be better off because of it. It isn’t a zero-sum game as you suggest.

          Also, only governments “make” money.

          • Draco T Bastard 1.3.1.1.1

            Actually, the economy is a zero-sum game. There is only a limited amount of resources available at any point in time (Some resources such as oil are limited in total mass). Setting up the economy so that a few have full control of those resources preventing everybody else from having them, which is what capitalism does, results in the poverty that we see about us.

            And it’s the private banks that print money through the fractional reserve banking system.

  2. randal 2

    Unless you sell a nuclear aircraft carrier at $15,000,000,000 a piece then most wealth is accumulated by selling many items to many people. therefore wealth is created by taking money from the many. and selling them stuff they never knew they wanted till it was waved in front of their noses on the teevee.

    • In Vino Veritas 2.1

      Ergo, randal, the old saying “a fool and his money are easily parted”

      • Colonial Viper 2.1.1

        Yeah and the elite 1% take the rest of us all as being fools.

        • In Vino Veritas 2.1.1.1

          Colonial, having read a good few of your comments, I doubt that you money would be that easily parted from you. For a good few out there, “if the cloth cap fits – wear it”.

          Jeepers. Pithy sayings are as true today as they were 100 years ago.

  3. BlairM 3

    You need to think a bit harder whistlerspa. Wealth is created when people think up smarter and more efficient ways of doing things. If you can provide a good or service cheaper than anybody else, that’s not a finite resource, that’s something that you created which wasn’t there before. Your brain is an infinite resource, and when people come up with new ideas, it contributes to collective wealth. It makes money for the people that sell it, and it leaves those who buy it with more time and more money than they would otherwise have. The only people it might make poorer are competing companies, but competition generally spurs further innovations from those companies.

    Just because the 150 wealthiest people are $7B wealthier, it doesn’t mean they are getting wealthier at others’ expense. Quite the opposite. If anything, it means that there is a cartel situation developing, to which the answer is always to reduce government intervention and regulation, not increase it.

    • mik e 3.1

      ACT rubbish Chicago BS Blair M its a pyramid scheme the money ends up at the top while the ones at the bottom get crushed.Afew would like your model it would hurry the end game faster.Most of the major innovations of modern times have come from taking money of the rich to do research and then hand it back for them to make a profit.Modern wealth spread would not have happened if not for unions forcing the wealth creators to pay better wages and make better conditions for them through political activism.So if we followed your ideology their would be less consumers able to buy less product that would fit right into afews ideology.The bottom is getting crushed now because the capitalists are moving their labour costs to the cheapest market damaging local economies for bigger profits, when more is manufactured by mechanization as is rapidly happening their are going to be even less consumers .So while you understand how companies can make a profit thats where your understanding ends .Association of Consumers and Taxpayers Ideology.Thats your shortsighted rhetoric .Thats why they have only 2% support.

      • BlairM 3.1.1

        Mik -e …. Unions have no interest in wealth redistribution, if they did, they wouldn’t support protection for their own workers against competition ie. the unemployed. Unions are about creating a wealthy elite. If you really want to redistribute wealth, abolish the minimum wage and employment regulations so that everyone who wants a job can get one. Competition for labour will then drive wages up fairly quickly as a result of the increase in productivity.

        The rest of what you said assumes so many things which just aren’t so, without any real substance to back it up. You should try rebutting my arguments rather than putting a label on me and treating that like it negates what I have to say.

        • Georgecom 3.1.1.1

          Blair. A nice attempt however reality doesn’t quite bear out your claim about deregulation, productivity and wage increases. Over the past quarter century in NZ, during a period of labour market deregulation, productivity growth occured however most of the fruits of that productivity increase did not materialise in the form of wages. Rather it went into profits. Market was deregulated, productivity increased, profit growth outstripped wages.

        • Colonial Viper 3.1.1.2

          Mik -e …. Unions have no interest in wealth redistribution, if they did, they wouldn’t support protection for their own workers against competition ie. the unemployed. Unions are about creating a wealthy elite.

          Gawd you Righties are full of shit

          Corporations and capital have systematically destroyed unions over the last 30 years (Governor Scott Walker in Wisconsin being only the latest in a long line). They moved massive amounts of revenues away from wages into corporate earnings, CxO salaries and shareholder dividends.

          They did this through various wage suppression tactics and the offshoring of jobs.

          You really are a moron, but please don’t treat us the same.

          • jbc 3.1.1.2.1

            I think he does have a point about self-interest in the unions. Recall NZEI and PPTA.

            The PPTA were not happy when NZEI got pay parity with secondary teachers and there has been quite a bit of tension between those groups if I recall. I find it odd that unions should be competitive with one another.

            The way I see it it all comes down to human nature: there is a base instinct that does not like to see someone else getting more for the same or less effort or perceived value of contribution.

            There is a similar base instinct that does not like to pay more than someone else for the same product or service.

            Both of these base instincts go into overdrive when you consider the rich listers though, where everything appears to be way out of proportion. Extremely wealthy people paying less tax proportionally than salaried employees, while earning huge money with little effort by leveraging money they already have. It permits escalation of wealth well beyond what any individual effort could produce.

            Personally I think that sucks. Not out of greed or envy but simply out of those two base instincts. If I want to give those instincts a nice label then I’d call them fairness.

        • mik e 3.1.1.3

          Blair M you haven’t read the history of economics. Just some act party comics!

    • Afewknowthetruth 3.2

      Do you mean converting nature into some previously unthought-of waste or converting nature into watse a bit more efficiently?

      PS the entire economic system is predicated on converting oil and coal into CO2

      • BlairM 3.2.1

        If you really consider your computer, and the breakfast you ate this morning “waste”, then yes. If you consider the people who provide your internet service “waste”, then again, yes. If you think it’s such a terrible thing, I suggest you stop wasting oxygen for the rest of us.

        • Colonial Viper 3.2.1.1

          BlairM: planned obsolescence is waste e.g. the making of items which are so fragile they simply break after a handful of uses. Or where you are forced to “upgrade” for no reason in particular, even when the old item was working fine.

    • Colonial Viper 3.3

      Wealth is created when people think up smarter and more efficient ways of doing things.

      Wealth (for the few) is created faster, more easily and with less risk by breaking down existing assets and monetizing them (selling them off). Nothing smart or efficient about that.

      Your brain is an infinite resource, and when people come up with new ideas, it contributes to collective wealth. It makes money for the people that sell it, and it leaves those who buy it with more time and more money than they would otherwise have.

      What if the “new ideas” are focussed on taking wealth from the many and channeling it to the few? Eg. ripping off worker pension funds by selling them toxic securities and then pocketing all the cash as it all crashes and burns? Or closing down your local factory laying off the staff and offshoring all production? The staff and local community are all poorer but the shareholders all get richer for their “innovation”.

      Just because the 150 wealthiest people are $7B wealthier, it doesn’t mean they are getting wealthier at others’ expense. Quite the opposite. If anything, it means that there is a cartel situation developing, to which the answer is always to reduce government intervention and regulation, not increase it.

      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

      The answer to breaking up cartel situations is to make sure that the Government doesn’t do anything about it and leave the cartel be?

      I finally decided that you are a fucking loser.

      • BlairM 3.3.1

        “Wealth (for the few) is created faster, more easily and with less risk by breaking down existing assets and monetizing them (selling them off). Nothing smart or efficient about that.”

        On the contrary, that is very smart, and the whole point is efficiency. You get rid of assets that are not creating wealth, you cash up, and you reinvest in assets (or people) who can. That’s what Graeme Hart does. That’s why he’s New Zealand’s richest man. You seem to have this image of rich people as Uncle Scrooges sitting on a big pile of their loot and swimming in it while the poor suffer. There are a small number of wealthy people who are cashed up, but the vast bulk have all their wealth sunk into their businesses – y’know, things which employ people and provide homes and food and clothing. Even the cashed up ones have their money sitting in a bank, who presumably do not sit on the money either, but reinvest it. The wealth of the very wealthy does not deprive others of it. Quite the opposite. If you wiped out Graeme Hart’s wealth and took it all off him, thousands of people would suddenly lose their livelihood.

        “What if the “new ideas” are focussed on taking wealth from the many and channeling it to the few? Eg. ripping off worker pension funds by selling them toxic securities and then pocketing all the cash as it all crashes and burns?”

        You mean the funds that were invested in junk mortgages which left wing US politicians encouraged financial institutions to offer?

        “Or closing down your local factory laying off the staff and offshoring all production? The staff and local community are all poorer but the shareholders all get richer for their “innovation”.”

        Yes, but the workers in your new factory in China are wealthier -ooh look! WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION! The product is cheaper, and consumers save money. They use that money to purchase other products, which create jobs. The shareholders reinvest their extra profit, and that creates jobs. While some individuals are less well off, there are a greater number of individuals who are better off.

        “The answer to breaking up cartel situations is to make sure that the Government doesn’t do anything about it and leave the cartel be?”

        Ummm… well the Government is the one creating the cartel through protectionist legislation, so of course the government has to do something – it has to get rid of their protection of these companies. If you have a shrinking economy, but a wealthy elite, it is usually because your regulatory structures are set up to protect that elite. Get rid of that structure, and you will have people getting rich for the right reasons.

        “I finally decided that you are a fucking loser.”

        Ad hominem insults make you look like you know you don’t have a decent argument.

        • neoleftie 3.3.1.1

          @BlairM – you state
          Yes, but the workers in your new factory in China are wealthier -ooh look! WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION!
          But in a global sense taking the job from a higher paid worker in one location to allow one cheaper worker to do the same job in another global location, to allow for your global wealth redistribution system, is just plain dumb as that original worker now has an limited income stream to buy products, so overall net total demand goes down while profit levels go up which only benefit the few.
          If the same buying power and rules and regulation where consistant throughtout the global system then global repositioning of productivity would make sense as all workers then would be in realitive term be paid the same but this isnt the case…once again to generate increased profits, to benefit the owner class, cheap labour is necessary.
          real meaningful productivity is not about worker working better, faster or more effort but utilising non labour components such as better ideas, better management, better technology and scales of economy and now distance to market or even availaibility of resources and infrastructure.
          What happens when a globally connected world runs outa cheap pools of labour i.e 100 years time…where do we get the growth or productivity then.
          Do you think the chinese peasant class ( or NZ one ) will stand for limited and unfair income distribution when compared globally?
          Do you think it is at all clever in this day and age to rely on cheap labour and then crow about it?
          Weak, lazy and easy theory on how to increase growth and productivity.
          Pax Roma had slaves as there base class, we have the newly created and artifical poor labour countries propping up a lopside and disfunctional gloablly connected system.

          Sure a connected global system is necessary in the long term so as to utilise resourses and infrastructure in a holistic manner but in the short term the social cost is unbearable.

        • Colonial Viper 3.3.1.2

          On the contrary, that is very smart, and the whole point is efficiency. You get rid of assets that are not creating wealth, you cash up, and you reinvest in assets (or people) who can. That’s what Graeme Hart does. That’s why he’s New Zealand’s richest man.

          I am talking here about people who create nothing, but acquire and break up, perhaps find “value” (for themselves) by laying off whole communities, or perhaps move the income stream from the public purse to the private sector – making the rest of us poorer by forcing us to pay into foreign toll booths on a daily basis.

          Fay Richwhite for instance, whom you kowtow to because they are rich.

          Their screwing with TranzRail was indeed very smart. For them that is. Detrimental to the rest of the country’s wealth. But what do you care.

          Ad hominem insults make you look like you know you don’t have a decent argument.

          You little Right Wing fucker, I don’t particularly give a damn what you think.

          • In Vino Veritas 3.3.1.2.1

            Now, now Colonial, take a couple of deep breaths or surely you’ll be moderated – I think I got copped for mentioning Muldoon……

            I would point out the NZ rail is not a great analogy. It was a dog when owned by the Crown, a dog when owned by Fay, a dog when owned by Toll and a dog again, owned by the Crown. Stripping it and binning the whole lot would free up plenty for redistribution to the 50% of kiwi households that are net beneficiaries.

            take it easy….

        • mik e 3.3.1.3

          Blair M Don’t bring Graeme Hart into this argument with out knowing what his business model is.Breaking the monopoly of unions has left this country a lot poorer, the jobs have gone to china Asia where there is an over supply of labour they are working 60to70 hr weeks for $20 to $30 a week and haven’t seen a pay rise yet in 30 years, their living costs are sky rocketing to so that blows your theory right out the door.So who’s got wealthier since rogernomics the top 2to5% Capital investors and speculators at who’s expense the other 95% of us.And Blair I doubt very much if you are in the top 5% especially with your lack of Knowledge on economics.You have been reading to many Act party comics.

          • In Vino Veritas 3.3.1.3.1

            hello Mik e. May I just say “socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money”. Now with that out of the way, on to monopolies. I would have thought breaking up a monopoly would have been right up your alley. Or is it that the only monopolies that may exist are those created under your political model? My word of the day for you is “hypocrisy”.

            And in terms of the top 5%, I’m there, does that qualify me in terms of economics? It’s probably pertinent to mention that the threshold for being in the top 5% isnt that high.

            If you’ll forgive me, when was the last time you were in Beijing, Guangzhou or Shanghai?

    • whistlerspa 3.4

      And goods and services aren’t finite?

  4. Afewknowthetruth 4

    Nobody creates wealth.

    All wealth in the world was created millions of years ago by geochemical systems -rocks, metal ores, coal, oil, gas etc.- or is created now by living things.

    All that happens is that people use energy to take what already exists and convert it into something else which they regard as being more useful at the time, e.g. cutting down trees, sawing them up and constructing dwellings; mining ores and converting them into metals; killing animals and converting them into meals. The vast majority of human constructions erode or become obsolete, and the undigested components of meals end up in sewage works where energy is used to dispose of them.

    In modern western-style economies huge amounts of unearned wealth are accumulated in the form of computer digits by the banking sector, via the charging of interest (which is both immoral and unsustainable).

    Every day that passes the real wealth of the planet diminishes because all the natural systems that generate REALLY USEFUL STUFF like healthy food and breathable air are under attack by the industrial system, which simply sees nature as a resource to be converted into waste for short term profit, i.e. conversion into computer digits in banking systems or fancy-looking pieces of ‘paper’ that can be exchanged for something esle.

    Needless to say, the whole economic system is in the process of crashing because all the fundamental assumptions are incorrect. In particular, the mineral resources base is severely depleted, and without an energy supply nothing happens: the prime energy source for all modern industrial activity, cheap and readily extractable oil, is in decline.

    In this ‘shrinking cake’ world many at the top believe they are entitled to a bigger share of the cake simply because they have pieces of paper that provide them with the right of ‘ownership’ of resources previously stolen from the commons.

    It will take a while for the cake to get sufficiently small to trigger widespread revolt in NZ because there are plenty of Africans and Asians who can be starved out in order that resources can contunue to flow to NZ. The day of reckoning is coming to NZ, of course (probably a few months after the oil and phosphate rock deliveries cease).

    People generally do not revolt until driven to desperation. The elites know this and are pushing towards more overtly fascist states almost everywhere (though I believe the Icelanders have won a temporary victory over the money-lenders).

    I see that the tribal system which has underpinned Libya for centuries is currently being smashed by NATO, so that Shell and BP can get the oil and ship it off to Europe and the US to prop up their failing economies for a little longer. This latest smashing and grab exercise is being couched in terms of ‘delivering freedom and democracy’, as ususal.

    These are very interesting times, as we watch it all slowly implode.

    Sadly it is the next geenration who will pay the horrendous price for all this madness.

    • Bazar 4.1

      “Nobody creates wealth.”

      Maybe in your case, i certainly do, and charge accordingly.

      “All that happens is that people use energy to take what already exists and convert it into something else which they regard as being more useful”

      Which can be called, creating wealth.
      Perhaps you should read the definition.

      “The vast majority of human constructions erode or become obsolete, and the undigested components of meals end up in sewage works where energy is used to dispose of them”

      Everything dies, everything. But just because things die, don’t mean there isn’t purpose and meaning in their life.

      “In modern western-style economies huge amounts of unearned wealth are accumulated in the form of computer digits by the banking sector, via the charging of interest (which is both immoral and unsustainable).”

      The charging of interest is immoral… I suppose you believe working for profit is also immoral. As they are one and the same.

      “Every day that passes the real wealth of the planet diminishes because all the natural systems that generate REALLY USEFUL STUFF like healthy food and breathable air are under attack by the industrial system, which simply sees nature as a resource to be converted into waste for short term profit, i.e. conversion into computer digits in banking systems or fancy-looking pieces of ‘paper’ that can be exchanged for something esle.”

      The stupidity of that statement both shows how accustomed you are to modern life, and out of touch with how dangerous and unforgiving mother earth is.

      Really useful stuff generally boils down to food, water, health, and housing. Mother nature isn’t willing to support a fraction of our population/life-style without the industrial farming we use today, and the industry that supports it.

      Reading this site makes me think that one day i’ll see a communist party spawn. “No one is entitled to anything, especially those who have plenty of things”

      • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1

        Mother nature isn’t willing to support a fraction of our population/life-style without the industrial farming we use today, and the industry that supports it.

        Mother Nature isn’t willing to support our over population at all. She will destroy industrial farming. Even now it’s starting to decrease from it’s peak a few years ago as top soil is eroded and the land becomes saturated in salt as a result of chemical fertilisers and irrigation. Throw in Climate Change from burning fossil fuels and most of what we have today that we consider “normal” will be gone by the end of the century.

  5. Draco T Bastard 5

    History teaches us that it is always possible that the real creators of wealth might decide they have had enough of the arrogance of elites who look down on them, dismiss them as envious and deny them their due role as wealth creators. And then it will be time to really get stuck in.

    We are most definitely heading in this direction courtesy of the capitalist system that has been designed to take the wealth off the wealth creators and give it to a few bludgers.

    • Colonial Viper 5.1

      The crony capitalist system which has been rampant since the late 1970′s has been particularly galling.

      The hyperfinancialisation which has occured since the mid 1990′s has made it 10 times worse.

      • Afewknowthetruth 5.1.1

        CV

        It looks like the entire system is on the cusp of imploding. Bernanke has now admitted he’s ‘run out of ammunition’ and doesn’t know what to do.

        According to the article below the markets will delay the implosion ‘for another three weeks’. (No admission of the role of energy in propping up present arrangements, of course). It is truly surreal.

        Yahoo7Finance:

        Bernanke offers no new stimulus for US
        ..Topics:Economic News.On Saturday 27 August 2011, 8:02 EST

        US central bank chief Ben Bernanke called on political leaders to do more to boost jobs and the housing market, saying the Federal Reserve could do little at this time to support economic growth.

        In a speech much-awaited for news of new stimulus moves, Bernanke on Friday offered no hints that the Fed would adjust monetary policy to give the near-stagnant economy a shot of adrenalin.

        Instead, he pushed the ball back to the government and fiscal policy, while adding a warning that politicians should not reprise their months-long political battle over spending and debt which he said could “seriously jeopardise” future growth.

        “In the short term, putting people back to work reduces the hardships inflicted by difficult economic times and helps ensure that our economy is producing at its full potential rather than leaving productive resources fallow,” Bernanke said in prepared remarks for a meeting of central bankers in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.

        “Notwithstanding this observation… most of the economic policies that support robust economic growth in the long run are outside the province of the central bank.”

        At the same time, Bernanke said the Fed did have policy tools to help out and would be reviewing them at an expanded meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) policy board on September 20-21.

        The Fed “is prepared to employ its tools as appropriate to promote a stronger economic recovery in a context of price stability,” he said.

        Bernanke said he expected growth in the second half of the year to improve after a first half in which expansion was nearly stagnant, at a rate of less than one per cent.

        But, against deep hopes in markets that he would at least hint that the Federal Reserve would adjust monetary policies to add some fuel to the economy, he stressed that the work would have to be done by politicians using admittedly tightly constrained budgetary resources.

        “Although the issue of fiscal sustainability must urgently be addressed, fiscal policymakers should not, as a consequence, disregard the fragility of the current economic recovery,” he said.

        Some analysts and investors had hoped that, with worries that the economy was sinking into recession, Bernanke might repeat what he did in a speech at the same venue almost exactly a year ago.

        At that time, with the economic recovery also appearing stalled, he signalled that the Fed would move to ease monetary conditions, in what became the “QE2″ “quantitative easing” program, which injected $600 billion into the economy via Treasury bond purchases.

        That move sent markets into a nine-month bull run, but ultimately failed to generate a self-sustaining recovery.

        While not offering up a “QE3″, on Friday Bernanke suggested he was more confident that growth was resuming, after a second-quarter expansion estimated at just 1.0 per cent.

        He did not repeat the sober description of the FOMC of August 9 when it forecast growth at a “somewhat slower pace” over the coming quarters than it had earlier estimated, and warned of increasing “downside risks” to the economic outlook.

        Stock markets took the news in stride, falling first but then moving into positive territory within a hour.

        Analysts said Bernanke’s speech had mainly served to put off expectations for another three weeks, giving time to see what economic data shows about growth.

        “Bernanke affirmed that policy is not made on the hoof at Jackson Hole but at the FOMC, by adding to the importance of the September meeting, that will now be a two-day meeting discussing alternative tools,” said economist Alan Ruskin of Deutsche Bank.

        • Colonial Viper 5.1.1.1

          I always thought you were a bit too much on the grim side AFKTT, but lately after looking into a few things, I can definitely see where you are coming from. Damn.

        • fatty 5.1.1.2

          in 50 years we are going to look back at capitalism and laugh.
          We’ll equate it to a stag night at the rugby club

        • neoleftie 5.1.1.3

          The only thing keeping new zealand afloat is offshore commodity prices and open access to overseas markets at the moment. Every night i praise H1 and Cullen for free trade agreements and lowering the Govt Debt ratios during the 90′s.
          Now the ‘wealth creators’ set is all well and good in the old fashion sense of production but the artificial creation of wealth from, as CV states, hyperfiancial methods of money creation has done exactly nothing to benefit the many and if anything bastardised the present economic system by creating artifical bubbles in housing, land and even extending to resources now.
          Time we had a new look at the system construct and determined if this new hyperfinacial wealth creation method can be harnessed for the betterment of the state and masses. In tangient we have a system wide resource crunch coming just when global liquidity is lacking.
          Within the labour party during the late 90′s the global fiancial numbers coming via treasury indicated this very problem and still 5 years on we still dont have, within labour, meaningful and direct dialogue to correct the imbalances, namely massive short term influxs of investment money.
          More micro focus on fringe social policies – were is the vision and boldness, the passion and conviction on what labour stands for…we champion the masses but no the party elite accept the staus quo and are nothing more than centre right on fiscal and monetary policies.
          Talk about John Key’s power block being labour lite our guys are gutless…A wimper from clare that her electrorate and the people are suffering and shot down.

          I say down with the elite wealth creators before its too late.

      • neoleftie 5.1.2

        CV you might call it galling; more likely in creating the gains for the elites from the system they have in fact wreaked the system in the process.
        What we need is stability, security and access to opportunities across the board.

  6. lefty 6

    The wealth creators are the workers who provide surplus value to their employers.

    The employers who steal the surplus value off workers are supposed to at least bring capital,labour and good management together effectively to produce value and wealth in return.

    In New Zealand they are piss poor at doing this because too many of the stupid bastards spend their time on speculation, greed, selfishness, union bashing, arrogance, pettiness and avoiding tax instead of playing their part.

    Despite (or maybe because of ) marginalising unions, driving down wages and having their governments reduce the workforce to a meek and submissive shadow of itself in earlier days, our employers are not even up to playing the traditional capitalist role of building successfull businesses and providing jobs for their exploited workers.

    The real wealth creators are leaving for Aussie in droves because of this.

    Eventually those of us who are left will have to make a stand against capitalism and its stupid bosses if we are going to halt the slide into poverty and environmental destruction.

    • In Vino Veritas 6.1

      “The wealth creators are the workers who provide surplus value to their employers.

      The employers who steal the surplus value off workers are supposed to at least bring capital,labour and good management together effectively to produce value and wealth in return”.

      Thats why they have a job lefty, to provide surplus value. If they dont like it, find another job.

      Driving down wages? What planet are you on? Wages have never been higher. You must be a youngster.

      “The real wealth creators are leaving for Aussie in droves because of this.”

      Oh, here we go. Its not enough to throw the old “exploited workers” into the equation, you have to come out with this drivel. Though I guess they are making a choice to not provide surplus value to NZ employers, and instead provide surplus value to Australian employers. Excellent. (that’s if these “wealth creators” can actually get a job in Aus). And as a very famous PM once said “those NZ’rs who go to Australia raise the IQ of both countries”.

  7. Afewknowthetruth 7

    Bazar

    You have just shot yourself in the foot: ‘Mother nature isn’t willing to support a fraction of our population/life-style without the industrial farming we use today, and the industry that supports it.’

    Exactly! We are in gross population overshoot as a direct consequence of industrial farming and the industry that supports it. And since the oil supply that makes industrial farming is in decline that does mean we will soon witness population collapse, probably via starvation, plus the eventual collapse of industrial civilisation.

    I do hope you are not going to tell us that Peak Oil has not yet arrived, since the International Energy Agency, supposedly the official body that all governments listen to when it comes to energy planning, admitted in Novermber 2010 that Peak Oil was 2005-6..

    Of course you could suggest, as many people do, that we can run tractors, harvesters, planes, ships and delivery trucks on magical thinking. I am not into magical thinking, but I know that a lot of people are; it seems to help them blot out reality in the short term while compounding their long term predicament.

    These forums are very intersesting because I discover that every time I write the truth that there is always some uninformed fool who wants to dispute it.

    By the way, I’d like to hear exactly how you ‘create wealth’ without using natural resources supplied by the Earth and without using up rapidly depleting fossil fuels.

  8. Afewknowthetruth 8

    DTB

    ‘Mother Nature isn’t willing to support our over population at all. She will destroy industrial farming. Even now it’s starting to decrease from it’s peak a few years ago as top soil is eroded and the land becomes saturated in salt as a result of chemical fertilisers and irrigation. Throw in Climate Change from burning fossil fuels and most of what we have today that we consider “normal” will be gone by the end of the century.’

    I am sure you are being wildly optimistic when you say ‘ gone by the end of the century’. Everything I have read in recent years [from reputable sources] indicates most of the things the majority of people consider normal will be gone by 2020 and that industrial civilisation will largely over by 2030. I have seen nothing to refute that.

    http://guymcpherson.com/2011/08/three-paths-to-near-term-human-extinction/

    What happens is that people on blogs totally ignore anthing connected with reality and carry on with discussions founded false paradigms and delusions.

    Even as we discuss the collapse of industrial civilisation, New York is on track for its ‘New Orleans’ moment, with Irene forecast to hit in a couple of days. This is unprecedented, of course, as all ‘Black Swan’ events are. Not long ago we had unprecedented snow in the North Island of NZ.

    One of the more interesting questions is this: which will get us first, collapse via Peak Oil or collapse via Climate Instability?

    There is not a word from our politicians on any of this stuff, of course; bad for business.

    • Draco T Bastard 8.1

      I am sure you are being wildly optimistic when you say ‘ gone by the end of the century’.

      Generally speaking I figure that the shit has hit the fan by 2020. At that point, nobody will be able to deny that our present civilisation* is headed for the dustbin of history. Things go down hill from there but not everything will be gone by then. Some places will fall harder and faster than others. Sure, some of those places will be unrecognisable by 2030 but other places won’t be. By 2100 even those places that had maintained present systems will have dropped them as well.

      One of the more interesting questions is this: which will get us first, collapse via Peak Oil or collapse via Climate Instability?

      They’re both coming at the same time which brings about that Perfect Storm feeling.

      * I really don’t think that we could call a society based upon war, colonisation, competition and massive over consumption civilised.

      • Afewknowthetruth 8.1.1

        DTB.

        Please don’t think I was criticising. It’s good that are a few other people who recognise reality and are willing to speak the truth.

        Here is an interesting concept: collapse occurs one person at a time, one family at a time, one city at a time via redundancy, foreclosure and environmental/economic/military-induced collapse.

        Detroit was a thriving centre of industrial activity in the 1950s; it has lost half its population and most of its industry, and local officials are considering demolishing 1/4 of the city to make it more manageable.

        Bagdhad was the ‘Paris of the Middle Eas’t till the Americans started bombing it.

        New Orleans was a thriving cultural and tourism centre until Katrina and Rita hit.

        Christchurch much the same before the ‘quakes.

        The Fukishima region was a ‘powerhouse’ and an important agricultural region prior to the ‘quake. Now it could be the site of a ‘China syndrome’ event.

        It will be interesting to see what happens to New York if it gets hit by full-force Irene.

        Yes, civilisation is anything but civilised. Of course there are two narratives: one for domestic consumption, which is full of high-minded ideals of truth, justice and democracy etc. (most of it fabrications), and another for overseas consumption, which is based on reppression, murder, looting etc. as has been going on in Nigeria for decades and is commencing in Libya, under the auspices of NATO ‘protecting the civlian population’. Gotta get that oil out as cheaply as possible and make sure the ‘right people’ can burn it. That’s a really smart move on behalf of the western powers, using Middle East oil to bomb the shit out of people living in the Middle East to get access to more Middle East oil.

  9. Thomas 9

    The author lists “truth” as a research interest and is writing a book entitled “Can the Market Speak?”.
    http://artsfaculty.auckland.ac.nz/staff/?UPI=cjon018

    His article makes no constructive comments (not that I think his suggestions would be constructive). It is just whinging about wealth not being distributed the way he wants it to be.

    So here is a question. Why don’t all you socialists form a club and run your own socialist economy? You can distribute wealth within that club however you want. All the people getting screwed by capitalism will join that club, right? The rich bastards will be left outside the club with no one to screw right? Getting initial capital will be a problem, but once it gets started things will run fine, right?

    So why does no one do that?

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      So why does no one do that?

      Because TPTB won’t allow it. Duh.

      Also – the masses of people don’t recognise the fact that they are currently being royally screwed. Essentially they’ve bought into the propaganda that:

      - Working even harder for longer hours
      - Smashing their own unions
      - Voting for Toff serving politicians
      - Saving their money
      - Kicking the weakest and most vulnerable in society

      Is going to fix things. (No need for a socialist revolution at all haha)

      • In Vino Veritas 9.1.1

        Sorry Colonial, can’t let this one pass.

        “the masses of people don’t recognise the fact that they are currently being royally screwed”

        Surely you are overreaching yourself? You are saying that you are the seer of all things right and that the masses cannot detect right from wrong? Please tell me you have not taken on a god complex?

        Could you not admit that the masses do recognise right from wrong and make decisions accordingly? That in fact, it might just be that your views are out of kilter?

    • Afewknowthetruth 9.2

      Thomas.

      ‘So why does no one do that?’

      Do you know no history at all?

      The American War of Independence, the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Chinese Civil War, the Korean War, the Vietnam War …… even the Co-operative movement in Britian were all attempts to throw off the power of elites, money-lenders and capitalists.

      A century ago there were dairy co-operatives and community banks in NZ.

      In practically every case international capitalism sponsored by money-lenders managed to take over/demolish/hi-jack/destroy socialist arrangemenets and re-impose ‘trickle up’ arrangements.

      ‘A slave in irons cannot work well and usually harbours thoughts of escape. A better kind of slave is one that has full use of his/her body, but knows that attempting to escape will incur terrible retribution and is effectively impossible. An even better kind of slave is one that is bound by ‘invisible chains’ that the slave has put on himself/herself and, thinking that ‘life is good’, does not contemplate escape. The very best kind of slave is one that has been brought up in a system of covert slavery and knows no other form of existence. Such a slave is utterly bound by ‘invisible chains’ which were imposed at the moment of birth. Knowing no other form of existence and not seeing the ‘chains’, the slave believes he/she is free. Such a slave may well unwittingly defend to the death the slave-master’s ‘right’ to own and exploit slaves.’

      We now have a general populace that has been bought-off by the trinkets of consumerism and ‘enjoys’ slavery …. but only for the moment. They won’t be enjoying their slavery for much longer because the trinkets of consumerism are going to disappear soon, as is the bulk of their food supply. A syste that is totally depemndent on a rapidly declining resouce has no future.

      I amazes me that so many people are so completely blind to common sense these days. I suppose it is because people in western societies have been carefully trained to behave stupidly, so the majority of them do.

      • Thomas 9.2.1

        A century ago there were dairy co-operatives and community banks in NZ.

        In practically every case international capitalism sponsored by money-lenders managed to take over/demolish/hi-jack/destroy socialist arrangemenets and re-impose ‘trickle up’ arrangements.

        How does capitalism manage to take over socialist arrangements? In the free market no one can force you do to anything; they can only offer you a deal.

        • Colonial Viper 9.2.1.1

          *Shakes head*

          A recent example is how Governor Scott Walker has crushed public sector unions in Wisconsin.

          • Thomas 9.2.1.1.1

            *Public* sector unions. The socialist club can have as many private unions as it wants.

            • Colonial Viper 9.2.1.1.1.1

              Bullshit. Private sector unions were the first to be destroyed. Steel mills and car companies closed down, production offshored.

              • Thomas

                CV: No. I asked you “How does capitalism manage to take over socialist arrangements?” and I was referring to private cooperatives. But you gave an example in the public sector.

    • Thomas 9.3

      CV, Afew: I’m sorry, I don’t see the obstacle. In a free market system, you are free to start your own socialist subsystem (but good luck doing it the other way around). That’s the great thing about the free market: you don’t have to participate.

      Why don’t you guys advocate this? Why do you demand that the government forces everyone to join the socialist club?

      Surely there are enough people who realise the failure of capitalism to start this thing up, right? Once it gets going, the masses will join, right?

      • Colonial Viper 9.3.1

        Exactly. And $100M in start up capital is all that is needed to kick it off.

        From that point onwards, democratic socialist enterprises will begin to grow in the economy at the expense of capitalist enterprises.

        Why do you demand that the government forces everyone to join the socialist club?

        Don’t be a little liar fucker.

        • The Voice of Reason 9.3.1.1

          I suspect Thomas’s world view will change the day he gets a job, CV. Or the day he gets fired, more likely.

        • Thomas 9.3.1.2

          CV: So why doesn’t it happen? If you get 100k supporters and each contributes 1k, you can get started.

          Don’t be a little liar fucker.

          How so? Whenever socialists get in power they demand that everyone participate in their little experiment.

          • Colonial Viper 9.3.1.2.1

            How so? Whenever socialists get in power they demand that everyone participate in their little experiment.

            You attributed that statement to me, a statement which was not mine, therefore you are a little liar fucker

            I stand for democratic socialism, not some kind of centrally planned authoritarian throw back to the USSR, go look it up.

            By the way, the capitalist free market experiment is coming to an end whether you like it or not. (Actually it already ended a few years ago, thanks to the actions of the US Fed and others).

            • Thomas 9.3.1.2.1.1

              CV: Democratic socialism is not voluntary. 51% of the people can vote to steal from the other 49%. Those 49% are compelled to participate.

              • KJT

                51% can require those who have been advantaged by the society, others have built up with their taxes, to pay their share.

              • Draco T Bastard

                Ah, I see a RWNJ is here defending the theft that the rich participate in to become rich.

      • Afewknowthetruth 9.3.2

        Thomas.

        The free market is one of the greatest myths of all time. It is totally Orwellian, as per ‘freedom is slavery’.

        There is nothing free about the free market, other than the freedom of global corporations to loot from the commons at will and sell what they loot back to the people at a trremendous profit, the freedom of money-lenders to destroy people’s lives through debt slavery and the freeedom of the advertising sector to mislead a huge segement of the populace via fabrications and illusions.

        Anyone who attempts to do anything that challenges the power structures and money rorts of the status quo is set upon by the system. I have spoken with many innovative people who get nowhere because they are ‘assassinated by the system. Of course, presidents Lincoln, Garfield and Kennedy were literally assissinated because they challenged the freedom of the money-lenders to enslave the populace (and the economy).

        Each month that passes the saboteurs in central government and local government increase the indebtedness of communities and impose ever greater restrictions on the general populace while they personally loot the till. Every system that is put in place is to make it more and more difficult for people tolive freely. Every system that is put in place is to give greater power to corporations and money-lenders who control the government and to reduce accountability of those who run the system.

        I cannot even burn garden rubbish -something people have been doing for cneturies- in my own garden these days! The system is awash with fees for permits and fines.

        Fascisim has always had its advocaters. Every society has greedy, psychotic sociopaths. Right now we have greedy, psychotic sociopaths running most of NZ, as per the money-lenders plan for total world domnation through debt slavery and control of food and energy supplies. (And I suspect many of our so-called leaders are alcoholics.)

        As I said, some people are totally blind to the truth (or have a selfish vested interest in the present system). They are quite ‘happy’ to see the world looted and lpollued, and probably made uninhabitable for their grandchildren, just so long as they can continue live affluently in the short term.

        • Thomas 9.3.2.1

          Afew: You sound a bit like an ACT supporter. You want the government to leave you alone—i.e. no permits or fees. You want the government to stop indebting the people. We have a lot in common.

          There is nothing free about the free market, other than the freedom of global corporations to loot from the commons at will and sell what they loot back to the people at a trremendous profit, the freedom of money-lenders to destroy people’s lives through debt slavery and the freeedom of the advertising sector to mislead a huge segement of the populace via fabrications and illusions.

          How do they loot? Seriously, I don’t understand where you are coming from. You say corporations steal, but everywhere I look they are just trading and people trade voluntarily. The only organisation that steals and is involuntary is the government.

          • Colonial Viper 9.3.2.1.1

            Your view of the world is a lie. Look at the wikileaks documents which show the coercive strategies corporates use in concert with the US Govt (there is no true difference between the US Government, the bankers and the corporates nowadays) to ensure that countries fall into line.

            Sure, NZ could choose not to sign FTAs. But we would then be sanctioned by powerful forces.

            That kind of payment is as “voluntary” as one to the mafia, eh.

            • Thomas 9.3.2.1.1.1

              CV: You have changed to arguing against government intervention. That’s exactly what I want. We should be free to do what we want with our time and money. Even if that includes joining a socialist cooperative. So I take it that you will vote ACT too in November?

              • Colonial Viper

                You’re advocating a “freedom” based on a laundry list of bad choices. Should an employee have a choice between being shot, stabbed or poisoned? Between having their job outsourced or their wages suppressed and conditions cut?

                That’s real “freedom of choice” right?

                This is a similar trap the US electorate has fallen into. They espouse freedom, like the fact that 46M of them are “free” to “choose” Food Stamps.

                Sorry mate, your deregulated free markets have failed world wide and central intervention in the markets has been the norm for several years now.

                As for ACT: might as well go vote for your tory undead great grandpa.

          • joe90 9.3.2.1.2

            How do they loot?

            >

            Corporate ownership of my local lines company has seen a 400% increase in my daily connection charge, asset stripping of inventory and a skills exodus means blue sky low voltage low cost equipment failures cause 15 hour consumer outages and the cutting of maintenance programmes and staffing levels has resulted in a network that’s less reliable than it was a decade ago.

            • Colonial Viper 9.3.2.1.2.1

              At least returns to major foreign and faraway shareholders will be up. What’s there to complain about? :P

              • joe90

                The way corporate’s protect their assets with their own compliance policies, costs passed on to the monopolised consumers, is the real eye opener.

      • mik e 9.3.3

        Thomas the biggest unions around are the business barons they cooperate to keep costs down workers are merely a cost they don’t look upon a worker as a human being these days labour is purely a commodity. to be perchased at the least amount

  10. KJT 10

    IT IS NOT THEIR, MONEY!

    http://kjt-kt.blogspot.com/2011/08/it-is-not-their-money.html

    “For most of the wealthy though IT IS NOT THEIR MONEY! It is basically stolen money.
    Do you really believe it is right that 50% of the richest people in NZ pay little or no tax despite being the biggest beneficiaries of the society we have created over decades”.

    http://kjt-kt.blogspot.com/2011/08/wealthy-deserve-their-wealth.html

    “Those at the top, got there, mostly, because of A) inherited wealth, B) the old boy network. (The real advantage of private schooling). C)total psychopathic self interest and disregard for others. (Called theft when done by those at the bottom).
    They would have us believe that they have some special talent or superiority that justifies their wealth”. Even though they themselves do nothing to earn it.

    No one grudges, proportionate, extra income for those who have earned it because of extra effort, talent, benefit to society, or risk.
    We have a problem with those who get massive incomes for such things as rorting the NZ currency, gambling in finances which require taxpayer bailouts when it fails, huge salaries for managing duopolies (While they cut staff pay) or have inherited accumulating wealth. Who then do not think they owe anything to the society which enables them to live the way they do..

  11. Afewknowthetruth 11

    Thomas

    ‘How do they loot? Seriously, I don’t understand where you are coming from.’

    If you don’t understand how the system works, and you genuinely want to know, you need to read this book urgently.

    http://www.publishme.co.nz/shop/theeasyway-p-684.html

    The system is rapidly progressing to the crash point, and most people are going to get ‘wiped out’ because they have no idea what is going on.

    If it is not in you local library you could put in a request (or buy it).

    .

  12. Crashcart 12

    What amazes me is that the initial article stated the fact that figures show the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer yet you will still get RWNJ’s claiming that the system works and that those rich people are actually making everyone richer, they just don’t realise they are richer cause they can’t pay the power bill this month.

    It is the same as Nationals plan for selling asset sale to the public. Don’t tell people why it is good, just tell them over and over again they don’t understand why it is good and eventually they will come to believe that they right.

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    For some reason, I seem to be getting a lot of visits from Turkey.  Or perhaps that's just where IP address disguisers are presenting as at the moment.  But I like to thin the Ruritanian nature of New Zealand politics...
    Left hand palm | 01-09
  • The health pillar of good government
    Whatever the result on September 20, John Key will start the next term with diminished personal authority. Our democracy’s health is also diminished. Key’s inch-by-inch retreat to the point where his imagined leftwing conspiracy turned into a rightwing one and...
    Colin James | 01-09
  • Keystone XL: Oil Markets and Emissions
    Estimates of the incremental emission effects of individual oil sands projects like the Keystone XL (KXL) pipeline are sensitive to assumptions about the response of world markets and alternative transportation options. A recent Nature Climate Change paper by Erickson and...
    Skeptical Science | 01-09
  • Union to support Work and Income staff following tragedy
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says today’s shooting at a Work and Income office is a tragedy, and nobody should...
    PSA | 01-09
  • We no longer have a Prime Minister
    Having just listened to an item featuring John Key on Checkpoint (National Radio) I now have to announce that New Zealand has no-one at present performing the proper role of Prime Minister. John Key could not have acted less Prime Ministerial if he had...
    Political Scientist | 01-09
  • We no longer have a Prime Minister
    Having just listened to an item featuring John Key on Checkpoint (National Radio) I now have to announce that New Zealand has no-one at present performing the proper role of Prime Minister. John Key could not have acted less Prime Ministerial if he had...
    The Political Scientist | 01-09
  • Ashburton, 1 September 2014.
    Crime Scene: The murder of two WINZ workers and the wounding of another in Ashburton adds another tragic chapter to New Zealand's grim history of lone men committing multiple murders.I NEVER WENT BACK to Aramoana after the killing. I had...
    Bowalley Road | 01-09
  • Radio NZ: Politics with Matthew Hooton and Mike Williams – 1 September 20...
    . - Politics on Nine To Noon - . - Monday 1 September 2014 - . - Kathryn Ryan, with Matthew Hooton & Mike Williams - . Today on Politics on Nine To Noon, Mike Williams and Matthew Hooton on...
    Frankly Speaking | 01-09
  • Radio NZ: Politics with Matthew Hooton and Mike Williams – 1 September 20...
    . - Politics on Nine To Noon - . - Monday 1 September 2014 - . - Kathryn Ryan, with Matthew Hooton & Mike Williams - . Today on Politics on Nine To Noon, Mike Williams and Matthew Hooton on...
    Frankly Speaking | 01-09
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies, Today no. 19 – The SkyCity deal doesn’t m...
     SkyCity deal doesn't mean more pokies – Key SkyCity is understood to be seeking law changes allowing 300 to 500 additional pokie machines and wider use of technology which would increase gambling revenue in return for building the $350 million facility...
    Arch Rival | 01-09
  • Will an inquiry make it all better?
    So far, the Dirty Politics book has generated two inquiries. The first is into the release  of information from the SIS to a certain blogger whom we don't name. The second is into Judith Collins' alleged involvement with an alleged...
    Pundit | 01-09
  • We Play Dirty at the Climate Talks Too: New Zealand’s Dirty Politics of C...
    This guest post is by David Tong, an Auckland based community lawyer working on his Master’s in Law on the UN climate talks. He chairs the P3 Foundation and co-chairs the Aotearoa New Zealand Human Rights Lawyers Association, and last...
    Hot Topic | 01-09
  • The trouble with liars
    A group of habitual liars try to get their story straight....
    Imperator Fish | 01-09
  • Photo of the day: Mitre 10′s bike parking
    The other weekend I went to the Mitre 10 Mega in Wairau Road to pick up some building supplies. To my surprise, they’ve put in a bike rack near the store entrance. I’m not sure how much use it’s going...
    Transport Blog | 01-09
  • TEU VICTORIA UNIVERSITY BRANCH NEWSLETTER – SEPTEMBER 2014
      TEU Victoria University Branch Newsletter – September 2014 In this issue: AGM-a-calling: Welcome from the Branch President Ask them Anything: TEU Presidential Election Election Special: Union members could make the difference Election Special: 3 Reasons to Vote Bringing Back Dignity:...
    Tertiary Education Union | 01-09
  • Stumbling towards Power?
    Let's be honest about it.  Labour have absolutely nothing to celebrate just now.The last few days have been fantastic for the left and in particular for a certain Mr D Cunliffe.  But before we get too deliriously joyous, let's face...
    Left hand palm | 01-09
  • Will the police investigate?
    John Key is busy putting together an inquiry into Judith Collins' attempt to undermined SFO Chief Executive Adam Feeley. The effectiveness of any inquiry will ultimately depend on its terms of reference, and the signs are not good; Key looks...
    No Right Turn | 01-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Speech to Canterbury Chamber of Commerce
    Today I'm going to talk about our policy package to upgrade and grow our economy and how we turn that growth into a foundation for a decent and fair society. But first I want to address the issue of our...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Commission of Inquiry must have bipartisan support
    The Labour Party is drafting terms of reference for a Commission of Inquiry, Labour’s Shadow Attorney-General David Parker says. “It is abundantly clear there is a need for an independent Commission of Inquiry, chaired by a High Court Judge, into...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Rapid Transit to unclog Christchurch
    Labour will build a 21st century Rapid Transit system for Christchurch, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The long delayed recovery of Christchurch hinges on a modern commuter system for the city. “We will invest $100 million in a modern rail plan...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s commitment to public broadcasting
    A Labour Government will set up a working group to re-establish a public service television station as part of our commitment to ensuring New Zealand has high quality free-to-air local content. “We will set up a working group to report...
    Labour | 31-08
  • A new deal for the conservation estate
    The health of our economy depends on New Zealand preserving and restoring our land, air, water and indigenous wildlife, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. Announcing Labours Conservation policy, she said that there will be a comprehensive plan to restore...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s plan to end homelessness
    Labour has a comprehensive approach to end homelessness starting with the provision of emergency housing for 1000 people each year and putting an end to slum conditions in boarding houses, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes that homelessness is not...
    Labour | 30-08
  • Labour: A smarter approach to justice
    A Labour Government will improve the justice system to ensure it achieves real public safety, provides equal access to justice and protects human rights, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. “Our approach is about tackling the root causes of crime, recognising...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Labour to foster Kiwi love of sport and the great outdoors
    A Labour Government will promote physical activity, back our top athletes and help foster Kiwis’ love of the great outdoors by upgrading tramping and camping facilities. Trevor Mallard today released Labour’s sports and recreation policy which will bring back a...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Pacific languages recognised under Labour
    Labour will act to recognise the five main Pacific languages in New Zealand including through the education system, said Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. Announcing Labour’s Pacific Island policy he said that there must be a strong commitment to...
    Labour | 29-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Better protection, fairer deal for Kiwi consumers
    Tackling excessive prices, ensuring consumers have enough information to make ethical choices and giving the Commerce Commission more teeth are highlights of Labour’s Consumer Rights policy. “The rising cost of living is a concern for thousands of Kiwi families. A...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki Annette Sykes, Waia...
    Media are advised that this coming weekend, the MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will be on the Internet MANA Road Trip within the electorate of Waiariki. Speakers confirmed are Annette Sykes, Hone Harawira, John Minto, Laila Harre and Kim...
    Mana | 27-08
  • Internet MANA – Waiariki Road Trip: 29, 30, 31 Aug 2014
    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • The Daily Blog 2014 progressive voter guide – who to vote for to change ...
    If you want to know how to vote in a way to change this Government,  here is the electorate by electorate guide on how to strategically vote to kick National out of office. There are two votes. Electorate vote and Party...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Are Cameron Slater and Judiith Collins bare-faced liars?
    . . Are Cameron Slater and Judith Collins both bare-faced liars? Both of them. Liars? Here is why I ask… In the latest revelations, information disclosed by Rawshark/Whaledump to the NZ Herald alleges in further leaked sensitive information from  ...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • What has surprised me most about the Ashburton WINZ shootings
    The terrible deaths at a WINZ office in Ashburton took us all by surprise. Staunch poverty campaigner Sue Bradford commented before the deaths were known and was attacked by waves of twitterarti who knew best. Sue apologised but her wider...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kiri Hannifin  – Make domestic violence an election issue
    Violence against women and children continues to be a profound issue in this country.  Despite the stellar efforts of thousands of grass roots workers to support victims of violence every day, we cannot seem to stem the tide. The past...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Factchecking Key’s Leaders debate claims
    There were so many questionable facts Key threw at Cunliffe in last nights debate that I emailed a few contacts to ask if they were true. Here is the very long list of things Key said that simply were not...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • August Blog stats – TDB closing in on Kiwiblog – our final election con...
    The August blog stats are in, and The Daily Blog retains our position as the largest left wing blog in NZ with 416 374 visits last month and 667 411. Kiwi Blog who has been operating for a decade with...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – New Zealand First: Coalition of the Willing...
    There is, right now, an absolute metric truck-tonne of misinformation, lies, and willful distortion flying about on social media, in the blogosphere and even in the media and corridors of power about New Zealand First’s coalition position. Some of this...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Judith Collins i...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • The Press Leaders Debate – proof a newspaper can kill the internet
    No more beersies for you Mr Key. Seriously – was the Prime Minister drunk during this debate? I am so sickened by what passed as a Leaders debate, I will make this review short and vicious. Everyone involved in putting...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Voting starts tomorrow!
    On the telly, in the papers, on the Net, billboards on almost every street corner – it’s hard to miss the fact that there’s an election coming up. Everyone’s trying to win your vote on Election Day, September 20, (this...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Collins inquiry a whitewash before it has even started
    The farce whitewash that Key is trying to push through here for the inquiry into Judith Collins role in a hit on the SFO should enrage any NZer, regardless of how they vote. Whaleoil won’t be forced to appear, it’s...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Press Leaders Debate – Round 2 – 7pm tonight
    This debate is live in a Town Hall, Key has done well at these in the past, but since the hate politics exposed in Dirty Politics, expect real fury directed at Key. My guess is that Key will attempt to use whatever he...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • MANA hit speed wobbles – why Annette Sykes will win Waiariki
    MANA are my favourites. But of late, their transition from crawling to sprinting has hit some speed wobbles. Hone’s and Pam’s aggressive attitude towards the media recently is very understandable in light of how connected many of the media were to...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Soz Cam – PaknSave boycott of whaleoil continues – time to start a boyc...
    Cam is so carcinogenic now, not even his mates in the Tobacco Industry are talking to him any longer. I suspect only the Israeli Defence Force propaganda department are paying for content on whaleoil now. Cam says that PaknSave have dropped their problems...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • The Rock Fuels NZ Roastbuster Rape Culture
    This is making me feel pretty uncomfortable. Here we have an instance of Jono and Ben posing like “exposed celebrities”. But do you know what I’m seeing? I’m seeing two dudes who basically “roasted” a woman online (exposed pictures of...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – Why beneficiaries need advocacy
    There are times when I am wrong. I was wrong recently when someone suggested to me that AAAP should be eligible for government funding to continues its advocacy work. That was before. Before dealing with advocacy on a weekly basis...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • TheDailyBlog September Political Poll Has Been Kicked Off
    The Daily Blog’s August poll has concluded and the September poll has been kicked off, asking readers: What party will you likely vote for at this year’s General Election? You will see this month’s poll in the right-hand sidebar of...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Jamie Whyte, leave that poor seal alone!
    Worse than showing mere lip service to Rainbow inclusion, ACT leader Jamie Whyte showed stunning arrogance when appeared at a candidates debate on rainbow issues hosted by the Auckland University Students’ Association last Thursday. The stunning hypocrisy was evident as...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Right wing can’t help but use scum
    Some people have been shocked that the traditional right wing party in New Zealand politics is so deeply embedded with scum like the blogger Whale Oil. We need not be so surprised. It takes a certain type to support the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: National’s Ohariu candidate admits contact by Simon Lusk
    . . Wellington, NZ, 31  August – At a meet-the-candidates public meeting in the Rongotai Electorate, National’s Ohariu candidate, Brett Hudson, confirmed that he had been approached by “a mate”, who passed on a message from  National Party operative, Simon...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014
    Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Petition for Governor General of New Zealand to Investigate all the allegat...
      Now we see the inquiry will be a whitewash, that is secret, won’t be consulted with the Opposition, will have limited scope and will ignore Nicky Hager’s book, we must demand the Governor General step in and demand an...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Ashburton, 1 September 2014
    I NEVER WENT BACK to Aramoana after the killing. I had been a frequent visitor to the tiny seaside village back in the late 1970s and throughout the 80s. Its tall cliffs and broad beaches providing a colourful backdrop to...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Checkmate in 1 move – how could Slater have known what was in OIA request...
    And now we get down to the final few moves before checkmate. If the following investigation is right, how could Slater and Collins have known what was in the Secret Intelligence Service Official Information Act request that hadn’t been released...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Of Jennifer Lawrence Without Consent
    Today the Edge website – owned by Media Works – published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent. It is not OK to publish naked media of any woman without her consent, full stop. It is absolutely disgusting...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate ...
    Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how good was I i...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Maggie Barry slags Laila Harre & blogger, audience erupt
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting held their public meeting in Auckland last night and it became a fiery shouting match when Maggie Barry decided to slag Laila Harre and me off. 250 people packed into the Pioneer Hall off High...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • It has to be a full independent public inquiry and Key MUST front
      You know things are bad when images like this start appearing in the media.  It isn’t a ‘left wing conspiracy’ to point out the over whelming evidence of what is clearly a right wing conspiracy! If it looks like a conspiracy, sounds like a conspiracy...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Political Party social media stats – National playing Dirty Politics on s...
    Interesting data from friend of the blog, Marty Stewart, on social media likes and it shows an interesting question that post Dirty Politics should probably get asked…   …it’s interesting that Key has so many personal followers.  One wonders if...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • The depth of the National rot and the compliance of our news media
    I’m so tired. Aren’t you? I don’t want to read the news anymore. It’s awful and I feel ashamed of it. We live in a country that people all over the world would give an arm, a leg; their life...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Conservative Party candidate links smacking ban with suicide, sexually tran...
    If Chemtrails, faked moon landings and climate change denial weren’t enough, welcome to your new Minister for Spanking,  Edward Saafi... The anti-smacking law is to blame for youth suicide, youth prostitution and even sexually-transmitted infections, a leading Conservative party candidate...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on the canonisation of Matthew Hooton
    Before we all start the canonisation of Matthew Hooton, let’s consider some home truths here shall we? While the Wellington Ruminator Blog, the blog who was previously mates with Judith Collins, now seems to have a crush on Matthew Hooton… …I...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on undercover cops in bars
    Dunedin police booze operation labelled ‘creepy’ Undercover police officers drank in Dunedin bars as part of an operation targeting liquor licensing offences. While police said the inaugural operation was a success — with most bars found compliant — the Hospitality...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Judith Collins press conference
    Judith Collins press conference...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Angry Lawyer – Collins, Odgers, Williams and legal ethics
    We deserve better lawyers than Judith Collins Three of the worst offenders exposed in Dirty Politics are lawyers: Judith Collins, Cathy Odgers, and Jordan Williams. What Nicky Hager exposed them doing would be out of line for anyone, but from...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Necessary Defence
    Increasingly climate change is becoming the main fracture line between political parties. Where political parties stand on climate change defines political parties and movements like no other issue. The Mana Movement like the Maori Party it sprang from, came out...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Why it is all over for John Key
    Image: Melanie D I’ve been confident that National will lose this election and that our focus should be on what a progressive Government needs to establish as its agenda in the first 100 days. Past that point, the establishment pushes back...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word to everyone who voted National in 2011
    I received this interesting email from a National Party supporter today… …let me say this to anyone who voted National last election – you should be ashamed by what has been revealed and what your vote ended up enabling but...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Déjà Vu All Over Again: John Ansell confirms his participation...
      THE MAN BEHIND the Iwi-Kiwi billboards that very nearly won the 2005 election for Don Brash and the National Party has confirmed his involvement in businessman John Third’s and former Act MP Owen Jennings’ campaign to drive down the...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Public Broadcasting Auckland debate 6.30pm tonight now with Colin Craig &am...
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting debate on public broadcasting happens tonight at 6.30pm in Auckland at the Pioneer Women’s Hall, High Street, Auckland City.  In the light of Dirty Politics and the manipulation of the media, public broadcasting is more important for...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Winners & Losers in Collins sacking plus what’s the latest on Slater...
      Make no mistake, there was no way this was a resignation, it’s a face saving way out for Collins, she was sacked.  My understanding is that National internal polls are haemorrhaging and that the powers that be within National...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Third party propaganda attacks incoming Labour-led government
    . . Further to a report by Daily Blogger, Chris Trotter, on receiving information regarding planned attack-billboards, the following billboard is highly visible to traffic on the southbound lane of the Wellington motorway, just prior to the Murphy St turn-off....
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Labour wins the Internet
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who tried to vote online for the leaders debate and couldn’t because the website was down. The next option was the txt vote, 75c a pop of course. So I’m not surprised that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Rotherham and the need to challenge willful bl...
    I haven’t been following the events in Rotterham too closely.  I’ve read about the basic issues and the culture of silence that stopped action been taken even after complaints were made.  That culture of silence is incredibly familiar, and described...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Review: Hairspray
      Oh Hairspray! What fun! Somehow I managed to miss the movie when it came out, I had no idea really what it was about though I felt it had a vague relation to High School Musical. In retrospect, that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Mounting global pressure against Timor-Leste’s ‘death sentence’ media...
    East Timor’s José Belo … courageous fight against ‘unconstitutional’ media law.Image: © Ted McDonnell 2014 CAFÉ PACIFIC and the Pacific Media Centre Online posted challenges to the controversial ‘press law’ nine months ago when it emerged how dangerous this draft...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Spies, Lies and When Campaigns Are Fried
    Like most of the rest of the nation’s political classes, I was eagerly affixed to TV One from 12:30 on Saturday afternoon to witness the downfall of Judith Collins.Whenever we witness the crumbling of a titan of the political landscape...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Whaleoil crushes Crusher
    Judith ends up shooting herself A new email has been released suggesting that Collins was attempting to undermine the head of Serious Fraud Office with the help of far right hate speech merchant Cameron Slater. Unbelievable!   She has been forced...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Independent Epsom Candidates ‘One Strike’ Crime Policy
    Best wishes to all of those who live in Epsom, Mount Eden, New Market, Remuera and of course the rest of New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Large majorities of NZ First voters would prefer Labour deal
    67% of those who voted for New Zealand First at the 2011 general election would prefer Labour to lead a coalition government if one is needed after September 20’s general election....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Jointly owned urban development agency for Christchurch
    “Given the strategic importance of the Canterbury rebuild, it is logical that the transition from emergency governance arrangements is overseen by the Prime Minister’s office, but to maintain momentum in the city centre an expert development agency...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Collins inquiry at best a Band-Aid, a permanent fix needed
    Collins inquiry at best a Band-Aid, a permanent fix is needed The Public Service Association (PSA) says the inquiry into Judith Collins’ behaviour must be accompanied by a process to restore the lost trust between Ministers and public servants if...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Association welcomes new Chief Executive
    “The New Zealand Police Association is pleased to announce the appointment of Heather Verry to Chief Executive. Heather picks up the mantle from Chris Pentecost, who recently retired from this position,” Police Association President Greg O’Connor said...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Young Voters Want Politicians to Grow Up
    Young voters want answers to the questions that directly affect them – but it seems as much as anything, they want politicians to grow up....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Climate Voter election debate to get big audience
    Auckland, 2 September 2014 - Tickets to tomorrow night’s first-ever Climate Voter election debate have sold out but an online audience will also get to see the event live....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • The Edge show disregard for consent
    The Edge has shown complete disregard for consent, for women’s bodies and in doing so has contributed to the wider issue of rape culture in New Zealand says specialist sexual violence prevention organisation, Sexual Abuse Prevention Network. Yesterday,...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • The Rock is Fuelling New Zealand’s Roastbuster Rape Culture
    The Rock are still displaying without-consent images of Jennifer Lawrence and other celebrities online. They are making fun of this without-consent action, saying that she was "asking for it", etc. They appear to be supporting this kind of...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • HRLA Condemns Murder of Filipino Human Rights lawyer
    Attorney Rodolfo R. Felicio, a member of the National Union of Peoples Lawyers , was gunned down while working on a land dispute in Rizal, east of Manila. Two caretakers of the disputed land were also injured in the attack....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • SFO lays charges for procurement fraud
    Two individuals have been charged in the Auckland District Court today with Crimes Act charges laid by the Serious Fraud Office for alleged fraud against Mighty River Power Limited relating to procurement for the Company’s Southdown power station....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Commitment to lifting wages good for New Zealand
    The Service and Food Workers Union has applauded the Green Party workers’ policy announced today....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Sykes: There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Winston Peters Shown up by the Civilian Party
    Even the satirical 'Civilian Party' has now offered the Taxpayers’ Union more credible figures for the ' Bribe-O-Meter ' than Winston Peters’ New Zealand First. The Taxpayers’ Union Bribe-O-Meter now includes, National, Labour, the Greens,...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Further criminal investigation into CTV Building collapse
    Police has today confirmed it will be advancing the criminal investigation into the collapse of the CTV building in February 2011....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Greens policy to restore link between effort and reward
    The Green Party’s new workers policy articulates an alternative to wage repression and job insecurity based on restoring the link between effort and reward, according to FIRST Union. The core tenets of the policy include implementing an $18 minimum...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Greens workers policy supported by union movement
    The CTU is supporting the Green Party’s policy launched today focused on improving life for working New Zealanders. “This policy shows the Greens commitment to collective bargaining as the best and fairest way to improve workers terms and conditions. It...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Research Scholarships for Cannabis Treatments
    Medical cannabis research will be boosted by $140 million if the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party is elected on September 20. Pediatric epilepsy treatment will be one of the main priorities for the research scholarships....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Ngai Te Rangi Change to Tribal Elections
    Ngai Te Rangi has begun a postal vote of beneficiaries to change the way representatives are elected to the two Ngai Te Rangi tribal organisations....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Greens’ commitment to pay equity welcomed by workers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says the 58,000 workers they represent will benefit from the announcement by the Green Party of a commitment to pay equity and to a living wage for core public servants and contractors....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Real People Powering Real Policy
    New Zealanders from all walks of life have helped the Internet Party create a full platform of strong, progressive and realistic policies that will create a better future for everyone, says leader Laila Harré....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • University of Canterbury to help with forestry safety
    The University of Canterbury is to launch a new research project to make sure New Zealand’s new forestry roads are safe and are established with minimal environmental impact....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Time to get serious about ending homelessness!
    New Zealand needs a comprehensive set of policies that address the housing and support needs of homeless people as well as significantly increasing the supply of affordable, good quality houses and flats....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Hundreds to join domestic, sexual violence march
    Several social service providers from across New Zealand have come together to call for an end to the epidemic level of domestic and sexual violence in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Students helped with debt repayments
    New Zealand students now living in Australia are being reminded not to ignore their student loan debt as Inland Revenue expands its latest tool to help with repayments....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Launch of GenderNeutral.co.nz website
    GenderNeutral.co.nz are excited to announce the launch of their new website, GenderNeutral.co.nz ....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Factory farming debaters to look chicken in the eye
    MPs participating in a panel discussion about factory farming will come face-to-face with a real live hen, rescued from the claws of the intensive farming industry. Hettie the Hen will demonstrate to the MPs what little space is afforded to...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton
    Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton 1 September 2014 For Immediate Release “This morning I made comments on Radio New Zealand’s Nine to Noon programme about an attempt by staff in the Prime Minister’s Office to interfere in the appointment...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Worm turns down for John Key
    John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s Reactor, the original Worm. John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Without Consent
    The Edge website, owned by Media Works have published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Statement from the Governor-General on Ashburton Shootings
    The Governor-General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has expressed his deep shock following the shooting of three people in Ashburton today....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Update on IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    In recognition of the public interest, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, Cheryl Gwyn, took the unusual step of providing an update during the course of an inquiry and confirmed today that she would be summoning a number of individuals...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • An Open Government Plan developed in secrecy
    The State Services Commission sent NZ’s Open Government Action Plan to the international Open Government Partnership (OGP) Secretariat on 31 July. The countries involved in the OGP since its inception - from the UK and US to Indonesia and Brazil...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • KiwiRail; another year older and deeper in debt
    That is a lot of money and there are lessons that need to be learnt before we pour in another $1 billion....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Fonterra China Deal Demands Safe Supply Chain
    The future success of Fonterra’s deal to sell infant formula in China [1] requires all milk it uses be safe and for Fonterra to secure its supply chain from contamination by GE DNA and pesticide residues. There is now significant...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • HRC praises Auckland mum for speaking out
    Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy has praised an Auckland mother of four who went public after humiliating treatment by staff at The Warehouse....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Southern DHB refers disputed issue to Serious Fraud Office
    Following advice from forensic investigation firm Beattie Varley Limited, Southern District Health Board has referred the expenditure at the centre of its long running dispute with South Link Health to the Serious Fraud Office. The parties have been...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Letter 1 September 2014
    Last night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts the left and right 60 MPs each. United and the Maori Party say they will go with the side that gets to 61 MPs. ACT just needs just 1.3% or 28 thousand Party...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Shopping Giveaway Harmless Fun For Kids
    Family First NZ is rubbishing claims by critics including Gareth Morgan that the New World ‘Little Shop’ promotion is harmful for kids, and says that kids should be allowed to be kids. “Children love acting like their parents and pretending...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Red Cross launches employment service for former refugees
    New Zealand Red Cross is encouraging employers to give refugees a fresh startwith the launch of Pathways to Employment, a nationwide work assistance service....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Conservation Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Conservation Policy including the key objective of halting the current pattern of indigenous biodiversity decline within ten years....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Poverty is falling and income inequality is not rising
    “A Roy Morgan poll shows that the issue people are most concerned about is income inequality. This just goes to show how the persistent repetition of a lie bewilders the public. Income inequality is not in fact rising. And the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Rotary NZ responding to Fiji water and sanitation issues
    Clean water and sanitation are vital to health. In Fiji Rotary New Zealand have been targeting 22 communities that are experiencing severe hardship mainly because they don’t have access to clean water for their drinking, cleaning and cooking needs....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Work & Income shooting a Tragedy
    Kay Brereton speaking on behalf of the National Beneficiary Advocacy Consultancy group says; “Two people shot and another wounded, this is a tragedy and our deepest sympathy goes out to the family and whanau of the victims, as well as...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • 1080 Poison Deer Repellent not Effective – Farmers
    Four deer have been found dead within a farmer's bush block, after an aerial 1080 poison drop applied with deer repellent. The drop was part of a 30,000 hectare drop across the Northern Pureora Forest Park....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Employment Charter will strengthen migrants’ rights
    Establishing an Employment Charter for construction companies is a critical step to strengthening the rights of migrant workers that are fast becoming the face of the Christchurch rebuild, according to an alliance of union groups. The charter has...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Global March For Elephants and Rhino
    It’s a trans-national business that funds terrorist organisations, fuels conflict in Africa, and poses environmental, development and security challenges. The illegal wildlife trade is also a lucrative business, generating an estimated USD$20 billion...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • New series of videos aimed at disengaged youth
    From the people who brought you 'NZ Idle' (NZ's favourite web series about an artist on the dole) comes a new series about election time: Choice Lolz....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Picket Of Leaders Christchurch Debate
    KEEP OUR ASSETS PICKET OF LEADERS CHRISTCHURCH DEBATE TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 2nd, 6 p.m. ST MARGARETS COLLEGE, SHREWSBURY STREET, MERIVALE...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
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