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Bob Clarkson chose not to speak during his valedictory speech. Instead, he just held up a sign saying ‘bye bye’ (in the same font as Peter’s famous ‘no’ sign). An opportunity for both hilarity and embarrassing revelations missed. After all, this was the man who thanked the Exclusive Brethren for all their help in winning Tauranga at the National conference.
Still, he couldn’t leave without displaying his mastery of the English language one last time “I don’t require to be called a dignitary” (pronouncing it “digni-Tory”) ” I don’t require to be in this place, I don’t require to dress up in a bloody suit every day.”
Farewell, you bigoted old idiot.
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I guess he just ran out of feet to shove in his mouth…
I guess even bigoted old idiots need someone in Parliament to represent them.
Actually, I take that back – they’re already over represented on National’s front bench…
Great piss-take of Winston’s ‘No’ signs wan’t it?
He was also inadvertently responsible for the conditions which exposed Winston Peters as a liar, as corrupt, and as endorsed by the Labour Party. The conditions which are currently sending even loyal Labour voters away from their usual voting patterns, in disgust. Not bad for a ‘bigoted old idiot’. Imagine how effective he might have been if he’d had the right-on credentials and intellect of say – Cullen.
He might well have been the next in line for PM. In 2009. If Labour won. After Helen stepped down. But she won’t win. So it’s ‘Bye Bye’ to that too, I guess.
Monkey boy National was the party that pushed Clarkson out. Remember it was only a few months back he was still the candidate for tauranga
Did he do a Connell and tell the caucus the emperor has no clothes ?
They still got a pretty good deal out of him didn’t they? Wish Helen had shown a similar sense of leadership over Winston?
What a lot of time you spend on your ego games monkey boy:
I remember compiling a small selection of your gallons of bile off Kiwibog once – ahh yes, here it is. You’ve grown a bit more sophisticated over a year or so, but it’s still the same irrational hatred underneath isn’t it.
Wish Helen had shown a similar sense of leadership over Winston?
Yawn.
Aren’t IP addressses the same no matter the name?
oFFS R0b get a life mate. it’s a free blogosphere. At least until your lost ‘refine’ the EFA.
Aren’t IP addressses the same no matter the name?
For the same “session”, or over short periods yes, but over time IP addresses can change too. Depends where you log in from, who your ISP is, whether your IP address is dynamic or static, and so on.
monkey boy – you do realise that trolling and provoking are two different things?
Actually, of course you don’t….
oFFS R0b get a life mate.
You do post after post after post here to feed your vanity and amuse yourself, and you’re telling me to get a life? You might want to have a think about that some time big guy.
I had a go, at least. read the post you refer to as my ‘ego-game’ What does the last paragraph say about Labour?
Look at my posts about The Labour Party, actually read them. We’ve had this conversation before. The trouble with you, r0b is you are ideologically blinkered. If you read what I’m saying I am not talking as one riddled with ‘irrational hatred’, but as one who is worried about constitutional issues raised by poor lawmaking. Poor lawmaking which has been facilitated by an abuse of MMP.
I’ll tell you another thing that is wrong with you r0b, it is that you lack the maturity to look behind what you consider to be the motives of the messenger, and actually come to terms with the ideas that are being promoted.
While I’m at it, I’ll also give you an insight into why you feel so at home in these surroundings. Because, with a few exceptions, most of the contributers are infected with a ‘Four legs good, two legs better’ arrogance which is reflected, actually in your own ‘irrational hatred’ of anything that is not party-loyal to the present regime.
You see the difference between what I do, and what you do, is that I know I am being provocative, but you actually have been intellectually neutered into believing the crap you pass off as reality. Take some of the advice that I have been given by a number of unimaginative intellectual eunuchs who think they are the cleverer ones amongst us:
Grow up.
(Not you, Anita).
Wow, you just got spanked BY a monkey…
At least BC built a stadium, unlike Trevor Duckman. Paid for a lot of it too out of his own money, a concept you lefties seem to despise.
Tell you what, r0b, if you promise to have a good read of what I put and open your mind, I will promise to stop ‘feeding my ego’ and posting/trolling/provoking here at the Standard.
It’s that simple, and a lot is riding on your response.
Tell you what, r0b, if you promise to have a good read of what I put
As in your comment of 1:23pm?
It’s that simple, and a lot is riding on your response.
I wouldn’t have thought so actually.
So just to be clear, you’re asking me to respond to your comment of 1:23?
I never got spanked by a monkey and anything that believed clarkson was in line for the PM’s job has less intelligence than an ameoba.
Last one today – I used to be Labour, was born and bred Labour, and if the present bunch of chinless hypocrites and over-educated buffoons that are infecting the Labour Party were cleared out tomorrow, by the Party itself, I would join the Labour Party and I would vote Labour. Basic principles. But this shower of shites is a parady of teh ‘labour movement’. They are the kinds of peopel who in teh normal course of events would only encounter the working classes if they were delivering their mail. That is why I hate them, and fervently hope they are flushed into the river with the rest of the turds this election. Then perhaps the Labour Party itself can grow some real balls and desist from rewriting the constitution to keep a power-hungry oligarchy in its high salaries and other associated perks.
Right now I got that off my chest, perhaps I can go back to being the court jester? It seems to be the only depth you are capable of working at.
Having read a number of contributions on a number of Blogs it seems to me that there is a concerted effort from anti-Labour posters, to swamp blogs with nasty streams of abuse. They seem to use the same words as though someone has assembled a list of toxic words to use. There is seldom any issue to respond to so I guess like others, I just skip over them after the first 3-4 words. Monkeyboy does not actually say anything, so skip him and his team of whatever they are.
r0b you provided a series of links of what I have stated historically and drew ‘irrational hatred’ as a conclusion. read the evidence you have first put on the table and stop dicking around.
“r0b
September 25, 2008 at 12:52 pm
What a lot of time you spend on your ego games monkey boy:
Lee C (3404) Vote: 0 0 Says:
June 28th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Kiwiblog has gone off the boil a bit so I thought would visit The Standard under ‘deep cover’. So disguised as ‘Monkey-Boy’ I spent a couple of day provoking people. Infantile I know, but rather entertaining
I remember compiling a small selection of your gallons of bile off Kiwibog once – ahh yes, here it is. You’ve grown a bit more sophisticated over a year or so, but it’s still the same irrational hatred underneath isn’t it.”
haha those threads on kiwi blog are classic, much arguing, then redbaiter comes along, claims the “liberal media” conspiracy and proceeds to rewrite history with one single copy and paste.
It probably goes a long way to explaining why the righties are so detached from reality, as shown in that video yesterday
Just to be clear, monkey-boy, I don’t think really think of you as a court jester.
Wow, all that got me confused again. monkey-boy – are you trying to be funny now, but not normally, or are you trying to be funny normally, and being serious now? Your indecipherable ‘parody’ most of which is utter gibberish, well it’s impossible to tell whether you think you’re being funny, witty, incisive, or just spouting off a meaningless stream-of-conciousness.
Just tell me what you think you’re doing when you usually post and I’ll take your word for it, and from no on, assume that all of your comments are in that style.
Well Matthew, like I said it’s a free blogosphere. I suggest you cherry-pick whatever confirms your own predispositions and just run with it. Plenty will agree. That is the best way to run an echo-chamber.
And Winston Peters, the darling of the Labour Party *isn’t* a bigoted old idiot?
Who would you rather have in supposedly liberal parliament?
And take off your partisan caps when answering.
Who would you rather have in supposedly liberal parliament?
Easy, John Rawls.
read the post you refer to as my ‘ego-game’ What does the last paragraph say about Labour?
Can’t tell which post / paragraph you mean, but in general I think Labour have handled WP appropriately. I think he’s as guilty as sin, and I hope that he’ll soon be gone from parliament, but like it or not there is actually some genuine doubt about the conflicting versions of events. I think Clark has been very cautious, standing him down from his portfolios, but otherwise on insisting on due process, as she should. I also think that there has been a genuine media witch hunt against Peters (one he did a lot to bring on himself!), compared to say Key’s more serious misdemeanours and lies.
If you read what I’m saying I am not talking as one riddled with ‘irrational hatred’, but as one who is worried about constitutional issues raised by poor lawmaking.
You might have aspects of genuine concern, I can’t tell. What I can tell is that you certainly have aspects of vanity trolling (comment quoted above) and pretty nasty hatred:
I’ll tell you another thing that is wrong with you r0b, it is that you lack the maturity to look behind what you consider to be the motives of the messenger, and actually come to terms with the ideas that are being promoted.
I’m fond of a good debate on ideas Lee, as I think the record shows. I’m also fond of exploring motives – part of one of my little side quests to raise the standards of online debate. I regard the posting of juvenile hateful bile and vanity trolling as a waste of time and space, lowering the standard of on line discussion, detracting from the issues that you profess to care about. So I sometimes call them when I see them, in the hopes of discouraging their future occurrence. Kinda like trying to encourage people to self moderate. I’d rather see good quality discussion here than the kind of nonsense that you sometimes get up to.
So, you’ve cherry-picked the idea, made a few assumptions that everyone here only wants to hear consenting views, and you want me to do the same as you have clearly done? No thanks, mb, not my style. So, say your first comment in this thread. Reading it I’d conclude that you thought Clarkson was a Labour MP. Was that deliberate, some form of joke, of have I misinterpreted it?
Here’s a thought – you know how being paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you? Well just because no one agrees with what you say doesn’t mean they won’t agree with other people’s dissenting views.
Monkey-boy
I can relate to that. Shame about the corruption – they won’t get my vote this election.
Ianmac
Yes! I have also noticed this for some time now.
My personal favourite is “move along, nothing to see here” or similar which is often used by “righties” and normally makes no sense in the context they use it.
I am glad others notice this too
at least one Nat has understood the Crosby Textor strategy advice for candidates: KEEP MOUTH FIRMLY SHUT AT ALL TIMES
I’m with Ianmac and Joanna, is someone putting out instructions to right wing bloggers because I see an awful lot of similar themed comments on any threads where the government is mentioned. Not a conspiracy theory so much as a theory of organised trolling…
My personal favourite is “move along, nothing to see here’
You talking about the Winston Peters business?
drat, and I got the quote wrong “nothing to see here, move along” was what I meant to type.
Billy, I was refering to a line (one of many) that is trotted out continuously in comments (on quite a few blogs). This one in particular purports to be a quote (most often from Helen Clark) that, to the best of my knowledge, has never actually been said by a New Zealand politician. As always, I will be happily corrected if this is wrong.
But I’m betting you already knew that was what I meant
Dom, I did think it could be organisied trolling but I actually am leaning towards simple laziness coupled with no real arguement to back up ideas.
Joanna
If you think no Labour MP (especially Helen Clark) has never said “move on” then you probably believe that Taito Field was just guilty of trying to help people and Winston is honest and his presence in the Labour-led govt is helping their chances of winning the election. Best of luck to you.
Thank you for taking the time to respond Matthew at least you had a go.
So far, I’ve had ‘irrational hatred’ ‘brain of an amoeba’ and your rather bizarre assumption that i think Clarkson is a Labour MP.
And then people accuse me of trolling!
I think I started out with a general statement about how the Labour Party’s behaviour is driving old-party-loyal away. I think I offered supporting evidence from previous posts (On r0b’s initiative) about how I have been consistent in this criticism since last year. I think I have outlined again why as an ex Labour, the present lot have driven me and ar driving others away. and I think I have been pretty consisent on this and the record proves it. Perhaps I should have drawn a diagram, but I respectfully submit that I have not deviated one iota in the past year… but the constant and wilful attempts by people to accept my particular brand of dissent is evidence that … I am paranoid.
Ok I suppose I must be. But I am consistently paranoid, whereas many who address what I say are wilful in their choices of approach – often in a vain attemtp to appear arch and clever, because deep down they are intellectual snobs. Just like the present upper echelons of the LPNZ..
Which is one of the reasons I hate them.