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		<title>By: Robinsod</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16122</link>
		<dc:creator>Robinsod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My estate is filled with rentboys !Shackles I say !</description>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16119</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monty&#039;s against real estate agents cos they help his tenants exploit him.  The poor downtrodden owners of investment property should rise up and throw off the shackles put on them by renters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monty&#8217;s against real estate agents cos they help his tenants exploit him.  The poor downtrodden owners of investment property should rise up and throw off the shackles put on them by renters.</p>
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		<title>By: r0b</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16095</link>
		<dc:creator>r0b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; Of course there is no way you lefties will ever admit that Key won - Clark lost. &lt;/em&gt;

The result I&#039;m after, Monty, is for New Zealanders to win.

&lt;em&gt; Her hastily written speech with policy on the hoof has been an abject failure. &lt;/em&gt;

Oh please, that policy was a long time making.

&lt;em&gt; And please do not insult me by acusing me of being a real estate agent. As a proud bog irish catholic from a working class (west Coast) background, I would rather vote for Winston than demean myself by being a real estate agent &lt;/em&gt;

Wow - touchy!  What&#039;s wrong with REAs Monty?  They&#039;re just out there serving market forces.  I thought you like capitalism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> Of course there is no way you lefties will ever admit that Key won &#8211; Clark lost. </em></p>
<p>The result I&#8217;m after, Monty, is for New Zealanders to win.</p>
<p><em> Her hastily written speech with policy on the hoof has been an abject failure. </em></p>
<p>Oh please, that policy was a long time making.</p>
<p><em> And please do not insult me by acusing me of being a real estate agent. As a proud bog irish catholic from a working class (west Coast) background, I would rather vote for Winston than demean myself by being a real estate agent </em></p>
<p>Wow &#8211; touchy!  What&#8217;s wrong with REAs Monty?  They&#8217;re just out there serving market forces.  I thought you like capitalism?</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16094</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monty, are you John Minto?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monty, are you John Minto?</p>
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		<title>By: lawyer dude</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16092</link>
		<dc:creator>lawyer dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psycho,,,,, you are forgetting that your make up is all messed up because your arrogance and deceptive spin doctoring days are coming too a rapid closure.
Get a life Miss Mitty..........................

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent - junk warning - this is probably dad4justice under yet another alias. It is in his usual IP range and with the usual comment type.]&lt;/strong&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psycho,,,,, you are forgetting that your make up is all messed up because your arrogance and deceptive spin doctoring days are coming too a rapid closure.<br />
Get a life Miss Mitty&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p><strong>[lprent - junk warning - this is probably dad4justice under yet another alias. It is in his usual IP range and with the usual comment type.]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Robinsod</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16091</link>
		<dc:creator>Robinsod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stuck up for you Monty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stuck up for you Monty.</p>
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		<title>By: Psycho Milt</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16090</link>
		<dc:creator>Psycho Milt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dad, you&#039;re forgetting to remove the spaces from in front of your punctuation again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dad, you&#8217;re forgetting to remove the spaces from in front of your punctuation again.</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16088</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there is no way you lefties will ever admit that Key won - Clark lost.  Her hastily written speech with policy on the hoof has been an abject failure.

And please do not insult me by acusing me of being a real estate agent.  As a proud bog irish catholic from a working class (west Coast) background, I would rather vote for Winston than demean myself by being a real estate agent - I am in the property business but that is about all can say or you socialist prejudice will judge me for being a capitalist scum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there is no way you lefties will ever admit that Key won &#8211; Clark lost.  Her hastily written speech with policy on the hoof has been an abject failure.</p>
<p>And please do not insult me by acusing me of being a real estate agent.  As a proud bog irish catholic from a working class (west Coast) background, I would rather vote for Winston than demean myself by being a real estate agent &#8211; I am in the property business but that is about all can say or you socialist prejudice will judge me for being a capitalist scum.</p>
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		<title>By: lawyer dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>lawyer dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this an R18 Labour Party only site?
I blame the hot weather and full moon .

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent - junk warning - this is probably dad4justice under yet another alias. It is in his usual IP range and with the usual comment type.]&lt;/strong&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this an R18 Labour Party only site?<br />
I blame the hot weather and full moon .</p>
<p><strong>[lprent - junk warning - this is probably dad4justice under yet another alias. It is in his usual IP range and with the usual comment type.]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: lawyer dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>lawyer dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This site isn&#039;t really for children.&quot;

Really Lynn? 

Did you mean to say that this government isn&#039;t really for children, as the poll at the NZ Herald today has Key at 75% approval rating for his opening salvo. 

Kind regards soldier of fortune

&lt;strong&gt;[admin
Nicely quoted out of context - rephrase
This site isn&#039;t really a place for childish behaviour
]&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent - junk warning - this is probably dad4justice under yet another alias. It is in his usual IP range and with the usual comment type.]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This site isn&#8217;t really for children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really Lynn? </p>
<p>Did you mean to say that this government isn&#8217;t really for children, as the poll at the NZ Herald today has Key at 75% approval rating for his opening salvo. </p>
<p>Kind regards soldier of fortune</p>
<p><strong>[admin<br />
Nicely quoted out of context - rephrase<br />
This site isn't really a place for childish behaviour<br />
]</strong></p>
<p><strong>[lprent - junk warning - this is probably dad4justice under yet another alias. It is in his usual IP range and with the usual comment type.]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: r0b</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16080</link>
		<dc:creator>r0b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robinsod, right you are then, I withdraw and apologise!

(By the way, I don&#039;t recall Monty&#039;s profession for sure, it was just a vague memory from an earlier thread.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robinsod, right you are then, I withdraw and apologise!</p>
<p>(By the way, I don&#8217;t recall Monty&#8217;s profession for sure, it was just a vague memory from an earlier thread.)</p>
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		<title>By: Robinsod</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16077</link>
		<dc:creator>Robinsod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rOb - I think you&#039;ll find Monty&#039;s correct title is &quot;slumlord&quot;. Please apologise and retract that &quot;real estate agent&quot; slur....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rOb &#8211; I think you&#8217;ll find Monty&#8217;s correct title is &#8220;slumlord&#8221;. Please apologise and retract that &#8220;real estate agent&#8221; slur&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16075</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>insider: At least you asked the question slightly differently this time. So I&#039;ll answer sort of nicely once more...

Chris is a nice guy, is definitely left-wing, but has been a long time away from the NZLP. Over the years he has criticized the NZLP as often as he has praised it, especially in the days when New Labour and the Alliance were very active. Being left or in the labour movement does not mean supporting the NZLP (as he&#039;d be the first to tell you). 

Now as an &#039;insider&#039;, your questions really should be - would he have any idea if the site was run by the NZLP. Or was he just talking off the top of his head? Or would I as sysop know, bearing in mind that I run the nuts and bolts?

So to answer your implied question, yet again. There are NZLP supporters helping with the site (like me). But it isn&#039;t run by the NZLP. Have you read our About page. 

It is just some of the trolls who prefer to never listen, and who appear to be too dumb to come up with original ways of asking that question (look at burt quoting you - that was almost clever). 

We like discussion. But to have trolls doing the &quot;I want icecream, Icecream, ICECREAM&quot; trick of a child is a total pain to all but their their proud parents. We&#039;d like it if you applied some thought about it. This site isn&#039;t really for children. It is here for an adult discussion. I&#039;m starting to get annoyed with it, and I don&#039;t read comments a lot. 

It is usually a bad idea to annoy a sysop, especially a technical one, if you want access.

Lynn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>insider: At least you asked the question slightly differently this time. So I&#8217;ll answer sort of nicely once more&#8230;</p>
<p>Chris is a nice guy, is definitely left-wing, but has been a long time away from the NZLP. Over the years he has criticized the NZLP as often as he has praised it, especially in the days when New Labour and the Alliance were very active. Being left or in the labour movement does not mean supporting the NZLP (as he&#8217;d be the first to tell you). </p>
<p>Now as an &#8216;insider&#8217;, your questions really should be &#8211; would he have any idea if the site was run by the NZLP. Or was he just talking off the top of his head? Or would I as sysop know, bearing in mind that I run the nuts and bolts?</p>
<p>So to answer your implied question, yet again. There are NZLP supporters helping with the site (like me). But it isn&#8217;t run by the NZLP. Have you read our About page. </p>
<p>It is just some of the trolls who prefer to never listen, and who appear to be too dumb to come up with original ways of asking that question (look at burt quoting you &#8211; that was almost clever). </p>
<p>We like discussion. But to have trolls doing the &#8220;I want icecream, Icecream, ICECREAM&#8221; trick of a child is a total pain to all but their their proud parents. We&#8217;d like it if you applied some thought about it. This site isn&#8217;t really for children. It is here for an adult discussion. I&#8217;m starting to get annoyed with it, and I don&#8217;t read comments a lot. </p>
<p>It is usually a bad idea to annoy a sysop, especially a technical one, if you want access.</p>
<p>Lynn</p>
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		<title>By: r0b</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16073</link>
		<dc:creator>r0b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah Monty, we socialists are working.  We can&#039;t all have a job like yours (real estate agent isn&#039;t it?)

Key only &quot;won&quot; if you score things on the dogwhistle scale.  Scoring on substance, Clark wins by a country mile.  I&#039;m not unhappy with that outcome.  When push comes to shove, I&#039;m confident that the electorate will vote for substance over &quot;style&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah Monty, we socialists are working.  We can&#8217;t all have a job like yours (real estate agent isn&#8217;t it?)</p>
<p>Key only &#8220;won&#8221; if you score things on the dogwhistle scale.  Scoring on substance, Clark wins by a country mile.  I&#8217;m not unhappy with that outcome.  When push comes to shove, I&#8217;m confident that the electorate will vote for substance over &#8220;style&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tane</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/wholl-run-johns-boot-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-16072</link>
		<dc:creator>Tane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Monty, na we just have jobs to do. I&#039;d love to have more time to blog, but well, you know how it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Monty, na we just have jobs to do. I&#8217;d love to have more time to blog, but well, you know how it is.</p>
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