Why Key’s opportunism was sickening

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The Right is whining that Key said “If [the Norway massacre] is an act of global terrorism, I think what it shows is no country large or small is immune from that risk and that’s why New Zealand’s played its part in Afghanistan” . ‘IF! Don’t you see, IF!’

Try to get the point, righties.

It’s not that he was wrong about who was behind the attack (although the kneejerk assumption that is must have been muslims from him and others is terrible). Not his language was conditional. Even if he had been right. Even the attack was Al Qaeda. Key would have been out of line and opportunistic.

He took this tragedy. Immediately tried to frame it in terms that served his domestic political purposes.

He tried to tell us what happened in Norway justified us being in Afghanistan. The conditional tense doesn’t matter. What was sickening was that the first thing he thought of when hearing of a terrorist attack was how to spin it to his advantage back home.

None of the other leaders did that. They all behaved with far more basic humanity.

On that note. A short memorial service is being held at 11.45 at Parliament today.

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  1. higherstandard 1
    26 July 2011 at 9:28 am

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Zetetic

  2. Tigger 2
    26 July 2011 at 9:30 am

    DPF was running spin lines about this yesterday. Key gets a lot of credit for being smooth and likeable but see what happens when he’s not scripted or edited – we get this type of off the cuff shit Remember his smug silence during the Henry Governor General interview, his mincing, his non-memory of the Tour? His personal political weather vane isn’t very good. As soon as he deviates from the agreed script he fucks up, needing little worms like DPF to come and sweep up the broken china Key leaves in his wake.

    Worse, like the Paul Henry silence, this shows where Key’s head really is at. It’s not about compassion, it’s about any chance to brown nose men in power (in this case, Obama).

    • queenstfarmer 2.1
      26 July 2011 at 10:00 am

      Remember his smug silence during the Henry Governor General interview

      Well that’s clearly false. He could have given a sterner response, but the PM handled it better than Phil Goff’s light-hearted dismissal “I think that was Paul Henry being Paul Henry”. Yeah, he was just ‘avin a laff, eh Phil!

      • Tigger 2.1.1
        26 July 2011 at 10:44 am

        Phil Goff wasn’t there so you’re comparing apples and smug silence. And this isn’t about Goff, it’s about Key making hay off a tragedy.

        • queenstfarmer 2.1.1.1
          26 July 2011 at 11:59 am

          Phil Goff wasn’t there

          That’s right. Goff had time to make a considered response, yet gave a light-hearted quip instead.

      • mik e 2.1.2
        26 July 2011 at 11:44 am

        Key is the Prime Minister ie leader and should stand up against subtle racism like that, we are a multicultural society it offensive to us who are multicultural .so until you walk a mile in some one else foot steps don,t be an apologist for a smug pair like Key and Henry.The only reason Key didn,t speak out was Henry is a former National party candidate and now openly ACT supporter. thats Why he was on the show Henry has been ogling and hero worshiping Key for a long time.

  3. Colonial Viper 3
    26 July 2011 at 10:02 am

    Key actually has no PR radar of his own – he needs briefing notes and scripts every step of the way because he is so disconnected.

    No doubt he would be smooth as silk, fitting right in to a room full of investment banking mates however.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 3.1
      26 July 2011 at 11:21 am

      au contaire mon frere

      His knowledge is completely dated and was related to easy pickings such as the the ‘carry trade’ in currency speculation. And his investment banking knowledge goes back to NZ in the 80s.
      Thats why he was pushed out at a fairly early age.
      The path is being prepared for Norris to enter on Nationals list, now that he has given up the job at Commonwealth Bank. Now theres a guy who actually ran the business ( including Air New Zealand)

  4. queenstfarmer 4
    26 July 2011 at 10:04 am

    Key would have been out of line and opportunistic.

    Whereas you were out of line and opportunistic.

    He took this tragedy. Immediately tried to frame it in terms that served his domestic political purposes.

    What rubbish. I seem to recall it was you who had your blog post up within mere hours of the tragedy. Stop digging.

    • freedom 4.1
      26 July 2011 at 10:09 am

      last time i looked, Zetetic was not our Prime Minister,

    • bbfloyd 4.2
      26 July 2011 at 10:24 am

      the only one digging here is you queeny… digging yourself into a hole.

      your apologist cant is as facile and transparent as a childrens story book..

      is it just my imagination, or are the morons backing keys obnoxious, ignorant bigotry showing a desperation not evident two years ago, and exposing a worrying lack of depth and intelligence?

    • Blue 4.3
      26 July 2011 at 10:28 am

      Stop whining.

      There is no way you can spin this to make what Key said okay. He should not have even mentioned Afghanistan or the role of NZ troops there at such a moment. It was totally inappropriate.

      The world was reacting to news of a horrible tragedy. The only thing to do was to express sorrow for that and then shut his mouth.

      What he said was designed to suck up to Obama, because the only thing the Yanks ever want to talk to us about is our role in Afghanistan, and Key thinks that he can get a free trade deal out of that.

      It was sickening political opportunism and you can try to spin it any which way you like, but it won’t change that.

      Key made a mistake. It happens. Get over it instead of trying to deny it.

      • Blue 4.3.1
        26 July 2011 at 12:15 pm

        Of course Pinky you wouldn’t have critisised him if had said nothing would you? you would have thought great he’s acting like a Labour man – failing to be prepared.

    • felix 4.4
      26 July 2011 at 4:03 pm

      Jesus queenstfarmer you can’t really be that fucking thick.

      He’s saying that Key WAS out of line AND wrong about the scary muslims, BUT EVEN if it HAD been scary muslims he would STILL have been out of line.

      Sheesh, learn to read you moron. The trouble with these right-wingers is half of them genuinely don’t know what we’re talking about most of the time because their comprehension skills are so limited by their lack of education and experience, and the other half of them pretend not to understand because it’s more convenient for them to do so than to have the discussion.

  5. Craig Glen Eden 5
    26 July 2011 at 10:19 am

    “Whereas you were out of line and opportunistic.”

    Argh dosnt quite work Queen street, infact its a pretty bad attempt at covering for your beloved PM Keys.

    Zetetic has simply stated what Key did. Zetic didnt make shit up.

  6. Deb 6
    26 July 2011 at 11:02 am

    So if Key was according to you capitalising on tragedy to score political points, what was Goff doing about the Israeli briefing/non-briefing situation. Remember that 3 young and probably innocent Israeli kids were tragically killed here too.

    You’ve opened yourself up to the “he said, she said, we’re perfect, you’re rotten” type of circular argument. Applying any sort of morality guidelines to this low level example of politicians politicking (your opinion) is disingenuous imho. Polticking is what they all do to a greater or lesser degree and I might add it’s what you do and what I do.

    • freedom 6.1
      26 July 2011 at 11:14 am

      Key said blah blah, Goff was asked if blah blah was accurate, Goff said no
      what is your issue?
      It is called responding to a question, or is the Opposition not allowed to do that now?

      • Pete George 6.1.1
        26 July 2011 at 11:21 am

        You’d expect that the Opposition leader would at least be sure of his facts before he responds with criticism of the PM and the head of the SIS.

        • freedom 6.1.1.1
          26 July 2011 at 11:38 am

          Mr George Squirreltail you can live your lie of selective memory or engage as an adult and admit the PM’s statements regarding the briefing of the Leader of the Opposition was innaccurate. It was reported widely, repeatedly and from his own lips that Goff had been fully briefed. This is blatantly incorrect and the PM must be held to account for this breach in basic protocol that we have engaged in throughout numerous Security issues in our history.

          I can only imagine the furor if the roles in this had been reversed

          I am also adding Pete George/Secret Squirrel to the list of people i will no longer bother to read as the conscious derailment of discussion is pointless, wastes everybody’s time and there are far more important things to do than argue incidental nuances when the very future of free and open democracy is resting on the block.

          so well done you manged to successfully alienate another person in your life.

          ( i now await with wide-eyed wonder what his next handle will be )

          • Pete George 6.1.1.1.1
            26 July 2011 at 11:50 am

            Have you got something different to this?

            GUYON Did you brief Phil Goff?

            JOHN Phil Goff was briefed, yeah, that’s right. I personally didn’t brief him, but my understanding from the director of SIS, Warren Tucker, is that he was briefed and he was shown the same note and report that I saw.

            If not it’s you that’s incorrect.

    • Craig Glen Eden 6.2
      26 July 2011 at 11:23 am

      Shit the right wingers are getting more and more desperate. Was what Goff said true…………. was what Key said true………………. right so theirs the difference Deb. Goff hadn’t been briefed which he should have been thats normal protocol Key claimed he wouldn’t answer questions because it was not in the public/ National interest, if that was the case Goff should have been briefed, but he hadnt been.

      Did 68 young Labour people loose their lives because of terrorism, no, did it have anything to do with Afghanistan and our troops no. So don’t try and compare the two because they are nothing the like . Key stuffed up again because he is a half wit.

      • Pete George 6.2.1
        26 July 2011 at 11:31 am

        Goff hadn’t been briefed

        Goff now accepts that he had been briefed by the SIS.

        “”The head of the SIS said he flicked the issue past me and said there wasn’t much to it. If there had been anything of substance said to me, I’m sure I would recollect it.”
        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5338674/Today-in-Politics-Tuesday

        • The Voice of Reason 6.2.1.1
          26 July 2011 at 11:50 am

          “Goff now accepts that he had been briefed by the SIS”
           
          Can you back that up with a quote, Pete? The one you use doesn’t say anything of the sort.

          • Pete George 6.2.1.1.1
            26 July 2011 at 11:54 am

            Ok, so he either accepts he was briefed as he has indicated in the quote, or he privately thinks Tucker is lying.

            • The Voice of Reason 6.2.1.1.1.1
              26 July 2011 at 12:20 pm

              Er, no. He doesn’t say anything about being briefed in the quote you supplied. In fact, he says the issue was ‘flicked past’ him, which is not a briefing.
               
              So do you have a quote in which he acknowleges being briefed or not?

            • Ianupnorth 6.2.1.1.1.2
              26 July 2011 at 4:28 pm

              A briefing is generally accompanied by a piece of paper. I am sure gentleman John will be  typing away furiously…

          • freedom 6.2.1.1.2
            26 July 2011 at 12:31 pm

            today is a fine example of the reason you do not argue politics with diseased marshmallows.

            across many blogs and in almost every thread, i have read today of the willing ignorance expressed by SquirrelBrain et al when they choose to ignore the real and implied meaning of words to support certain Politicians in one instance then use the inverse of that logic to defame another. There is a fine word to describe this activity, tedious

            NZ is at another crtical stage of its future development as a Nation. If the wrong motives are returned to power we are doomed. This is not meant to imply we are spoilt for choice either as the hard realities of the Global crises show in stark relief the inequality on our planet. It is important to remember that remedies exist. The first step is honest discussion. On politics, on medicine, on food, on war, we occupy the halls of the blame game, hearing nothing due to the overpowering noise from the room next door.

            There is an elephant in the room that is getting very very angry at the fact is has been noticed. An angry elephant is not a good thing. When the room it is in houses all you hold so dear, it might be an idea to let it out. Show it some sunshine, let it see all the people it could do so much good for.

            This elephant that we call the free market does not work due to a complete lack of commercial integrity that premeates every fabric of our lives. If it worked why do we have 2.5 billion people without adequate food, water and shelter? Why are over 4 billion people living at or below the poverty level? Why does approximately 0.01% of its population own over 80% of the world’s wealth?

            Change occurs when an individual has the temerity to accept the negative impact of their own contribution and alter their behaviour accordingly. Be it in a blog or at the ballot box.

        • Anne 6.2.1.2
          26 July 2011 at 12:56 pm

          Goff now accepts that he had been briefed by the SIS.

          Bullshit! Goff said nothing of the sort.

          If there had been anything of substance said to me, I’m sure I would recollect it.

          If Goff – remember we’re talking about the former Defence and Foreign Affairs minister at the time of the Israeli passport scandal – doesn’t recollect anything it’s because he was told nothing of note. In other words he received a Clayton’s briefing. That is, a briefing you get when you’re not being briefed. An insult to Goff and I understand why he is angry about it.

          This pratt Pete G was whining non-stop about this yesterday. He got all the responses he needed to pass an informed judgement. Please, please someone toss him back to Kiwiblog from whence he came.

          • Pete George 6.2.1.2.1
            26 July 2011 at 1:06 pm

            doesn’t recollect anything it’s because he was told nothing of note

            That’s because apparently there was nothing much of note to tell, and nothing of note to remember.

            The Israeli story seems to have been much ado about bugger all, and so have the attempts to make political stories out of it.

            • Deadly_NZ 6.2.1.2.1.1
              26 July 2011 at 6:19 pm

              Pete George Secret Squirrel or whatever else you want to try to hide behind. I think Anne put it succinctly enough, but I’ll take the round about route, so if you are so brain dead as to still attempt to fight yet another losing battle. May I diffidently offer you 2 words, Sex Travel.

          • Tangled up in blue 6.2.1.2.2
            26 July 2011 at 3:54 pm

            Unfortunately for Goff, it looks like that it’s his word against the SIS Director.

            • Deadly_NZ 6.2.1.2.2.1
              26 July 2011 at 7:50 pm

              Surely not. If he (Phil Goff) had an official briefing then would there, or would there not, be about 2 trees worth of paper signifying the fact? After all it ‘s An Official briefing, so there should be paperwork. And why did the sis man not get a signature??

      • Deb 6.2.2
        26 July 2011 at 11:53 am

        What are you on about when you say – ” Did 68 young Labour people loose their lives because of terrorism, no” Of course the people lost their lives to terrorism Craig. The alleged murderer is Norway’s very own homegrown terrorist. You’re not suggesting that only Islamist fundamentalists can be terrorists are you?

      • queenstfarmer 6.2.3
        26 July 2011 at 12:01 pm

        Did 68 young Labour people loose their lives because of terrorism, no

        Um, yes.

        • Craig Glen Eden 6.2.3.1
          26 July 2011 at 12:42 pm

          No I was not suggesting Terrorists only come from Islamic fundamentalism, but I was saying that this man had nothing to do with terrorists in Afghanistan as Key was first suggesting.
          Also our troops in Afghanistan would not have prevent this mass murder as Key was suggesting.But I guess I could have said it better, so as not to have given you a another smoke screen to hide behind. So back to the issue Did Key use this event for his own politicking.

          Im just waiting for Key to know extend our SAS time in Afghanistan which is what I think he was primming us for.
          .

          • freedom 6.2.3.1.1
            26 July 2011 at 12:48 pm

            Maybe he will do what Obama has just done. Announce the complete withdrawl of all troops…. except the fifteen thousand he is retasking as Diplomats. No joke. go look it up .

      • seanmaitland 6.2.4
        28 July 2011 at 12:04 am

        Lol – desperate – you’ve just had your worst poll ever, and your leader has been caught out making false allegations against the head of the SIS.

        Fucking hilarious mate. Yep thats definitely desperate.

        • Colonial Viper 6.2.4.1
          28 July 2011 at 12:36 am

          Meh, NAT is winning the polling game purely based on smoke and mirrors.

          And you are supporting a side selling out NZ to foreigners.

          Don’t gloat about it, you’re hurting your friends, your neighbours and the future of your family.

          Enjoy.

  7. Jason 7
    26 July 2011 at 11:59 am

    No, he is not alone, Obama did the exact same thing. All of the top level politicians are globalist puppets singing from the same song sheet and controlled by the same puppet masters:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59679.html
    “But earlier in the day, just hours after the bomb exploded in Oslo and long before authorities there captured the alleged gunman, President Barack Obama had said the events in Norway are a reminder that stopping terrorism is a global responsibility.

    “I wanted to personally extend my condolences to the people of Norway,” Obama said at the White House after meeting with New Zealand Prime Minister John Key. “It’s a reminder that the entire international community holds a stake in preventing this kind of terror from occurring. We have to work cooperatively together both on intelligence and in terms of prevention of these kinds of horrible attacks.”

    • Puddleglum 7.1
      26 July 2011 at 3:35 pm

      “preventing this kind of terror from occurring”

      Yes, this was also opportunistic but note the – clever – non-committal nature of what ‘this kind of terror’ might turn out to be? Key specified a link to an action supposedly aimed at stopping a quite different and specific kind of terrorist threat (and, for now and for the sake of argument, I won’t debate whether the action in Afghanistan is actually about ‘stopping terrorism’ in any of its guises). 

    • Tangled up in blue 7.2
      26 July 2011 at 3:41 pm

      Yes but Obama had the common sense to mention stopping terrorism is a general way without specifically bringing up the political issue of troops in Afghanistan.

    • Ianupnorth 7.3
      26 July 2011 at 4:31 pm

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503076&gal_cid=1503076&gallery_id=120453
      Watch – does Obama once mention or apportion blame 

      We have to work cooperatively together both on intelligence and in terms of prevention of these kinds of horrible attacks.

      E.g. the Norwegians talking to the Poles about the 6 tonnes of fertiliser that were used to make the bomb.

      Not once does the president mention any other country than Norway; key on the other hand….

  8. Bart 8
    26 July 2011 at 5:40 pm

    So now you ARE accepting that he said “If” but you are still trying to spin this!

    Depite the agenda of the perpetrator, we still have to take our place in the world, and we still have to contribute. And while you are at it, why has everyone conveniently forgotton that NZ forces went in to Afghanistan under a Labour government?

    • jackal 8.1
      26 July 2011 at 7:44 pm

      So that is your argument eh! That Zetetic initially left out the word if. How god damn pathetic is that. The qualifying statement had nothing to do with John Key using the word if.

      Then you jump on the “Labour did it” bandwagon to try and justify National’s idiotic leader.

      Do you really think that such an argument is going to carry the right wing over the line in the next general election? “National is fucking the country up like never before, but because Phil Goff farted back in 1973 it’s a OK.”

      Contributing to the world stage is a bit different to propping up a failed war for oil that has killed millions of innocent civilians and increased New Zealand’s chances at being the victim of terrorism.

      Let’s export top quality products, support culture and ensure people are leaving New Zealand instead of escaping. Let’s not send badly trained army personnel to kill and be killed in foreign lands.

  9. Bart 9
    27 July 2011 at 9:38 am

    @ Jackal. How dare you cast aspersions on our people in Afghanistan. In every case where our people have fired on insurgents, they have returned fire, not initiated combat. As for our Provincial Reconstruction Team, there is a reason that Bamiyan Province is held up as a model for other PRT’s to emulate.

    But you want to pull our people out, and leave the civilian population of Afghanistan at the mercy of thugs who hang 8 year old boys!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/5334356/Afghan-insurgents-hang-eight-year-old-boy

    • jackal 9.1
      27 July 2011 at 5:15 pm

      The Bush administration began its bombing strikes on the hapless, poverty-stricken country October 7, and ground attacks by US Special Forces began October 19.

      But the US planned to undertake the war on Afghanistan well before the terrorist attacks of September 11 that destroyed some of New York and the Pentagon.

      Make no mistake, America is undertaking a war for oil, and have undertaken a systematic cover-up in conjunction with many media outlets of the real economic and strategic interests that underlie the war.

      Afghanistan has been subjected to a barbarous air bombardment which kills around 50 civilians per day. So yes! I will cast aspersions on New Zealand’s involvement in an unjust war.

  10. randal 10
    28 July 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Unfortunartely the limit of John Keys knowledge is the current bond yield rate.
    Anything else is manufactured by the manques in the policy unit who are so blinded by the possibility of getting shares in the privatised soe’s that they cant see the wood from the trees.
    they are just arrivistes anyway with no real knowledge of the world and furthermore they dont care.

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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    20 hours ago

  • How to Screen Record on a Dell Laptop A Guide to Capturing Your Screen with Ease
    Screen recording has become an essential tool for various purposes, such as creating tutorials, capturing gameplay footage, recording online meetings, or sharing information with others. Fortunately, Dell laptops offer several built-in and external options for screen recording, catering to different needs and preferences. This guide will explore various methods on ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    20 hours ago

  • How Much Does it Cost to Fix a Laptop Screen? Navigating Repair Options and Costs
    A cracked or damaged laptop screen can be a frustrating experience, impacting productivity and enjoyment. Fortunately, laptop screen repair is a common service offered by various repair shops and technicians. However, the cost of fixing a laptop screen can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article delves into the ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    20 hours ago

  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    20 hours ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    21 hours ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
    Experiencing a locked computer can be frustrating, especially when you need access to your files and applications urgently. The methods to unlock your computer will vary depending on the specific situation and the type of lock you encounter. This guide will explore various scenarios and provide step-by-step instructions on how ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    22 hours ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
    While the world has largely transitioned to digital communication, faxing still holds relevance in certain industries and situations. Fortunately, gone are the days of bulky fax machines and dedicated phone lines. Today, you can easily send and receive faxes directly from your computer, offering a convenient and efficient way to ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    22 hours ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    22 hours ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    23 hours ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
    The absolute brass neck of this guy.We want more medical doctors, not more spin doctors, Luxon was saying a couple of weeks ago, and now we’re told the guy has seven salaried adults on TikTok duty. Sorry, doing social media. The absolute brass neck of it. The irony that the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    23 hours ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    24 hours ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
    Having written, taught and worked for the US government on issues involving unconventional warfare and terrorism for 30-odd years, two things irritate me the most when the subject is discussed in public. The first is the Johnny-come-lately academics-turned-media commentators who … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 day ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
    Mariupol, on the Azov Sea coast, was one of the first cities to suffer almost complete destruction after the start of the Ukraine War started in late February 2022. We remember the scenes of absolute destruction of the houses and city structures. The deaths of innocent civilians – many of ...
    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    1 day ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
    Climate change is expected to generate more and more extreme events, delivering a sort of structural shock to inflation that central banks will have to react to as if they were short-term cyclical issues. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMy pick of the six newsey things to know from Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    1 day ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    1 day ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
    This is a re-post from Andrew Dessler at the Climate Brink blog In 2023, the Earth reached temperature levels unprecedented in modern times. Given that, it’s reasonable to ask: What’s going on? There’s been lots of discussions by scientists about whether this is just the normal progression of global warming or if something ...
    Skeptical Science
    2 days ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
    Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
    Buzz from the Beehive Point  of Order first heard of the Oceans Secretariat in June 2021, when David Parker (remember him?) announced a multi-agency approach to protecting New Zealand’s marine ecosystems and fisheries. Parker (holding the Environment, and Oceans and Fisheries portfolios) broke the news at the annual Forest & ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    3 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

    Cats, with their independent spirit and beguiling purrs, have captured the hearts of humans for millennia. In New Zealand, felines are no exception, boasting the highest national cat ownership rate globally [definition cat nz cat foundation]. An estimated 1.134 million pet cats grace Kiwi households, compared to 683,000 dogs ...

    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    5 days ago

  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Did global warming stop in ...
    Skeptical Science
    6 days ago

  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago

  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    Turning Point: “What has turned me away from the mainstream news media is the very strong message that its been sending out for the last few years.” “And what message might that be?” “That the people who own it, the people who run it, and the people who provide its content, really don’t ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    56 mins ago

  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago

  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 hours ago

  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 hours ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 hours ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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