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		<title>By: sweetd</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/williamson-goes-to-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-82367</link>
		<dc:creator>sweetd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful VTO

chances if it had been a labour MP in the lift, he would have been eying you up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful VTO</p>
<p>chances if it had been a labour MP in the lift, he would have been eying you up</p>
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		<title>By: vto</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/williamson-goes-to-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-82362</link>
		<dc:creator>vto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Williamson can go shit on his own head for all I care. Once, years ago my gorgeous now-wife of mine, an almost as gorgeous friend of hers, and myself, were in the lift in that apartment bldg next to the reserve bank going to our pad. Williamson gets in the lift too and proceeds to smarmingly smile and nod hello to the girls only, completely ignoring the male in the lift (moi). This type of lurid behaviour, together with his heinous arrogance when he introduced the new drivers licences, puts him head first down the dunny in my books. He has always been a liability to the nats.

re the actual topic - bit bloody rough around th edges nats. Sharpen up or suffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Williamson can go shit on his own head for all I care. Once, years ago my gorgeous now-wife of mine, an almost as gorgeous friend of hers, and myself, were in the lift in that apartment bldg next to the reserve bank going to our pad. Williamson gets in the lift too and proceeds to smarmingly smile and nod hello to the girls only, completely ignoring the male in the lift (moi). This type of lurid behaviour, together with his heinous arrogance when he introduced the new drivers licences, puts him head first down the dunny in my books. He has always been a liability to the nats.</p>
<p>re the actual topic &#8211; bit bloody rough around th edges nats. Sharpen up or suffer.</p>
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		<title>By: r0b</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/williamson-goes-to-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-82361</link>
		<dc:creator>r0b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Time to break out the Chardonney? &lt;/i&gt;

Not by a million miles.  But interesting to note that even The Herald is starting to question the Nats integrity:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10528932

&lt;blockquote&gt; Mr Williamson&#039;s candour was in accord with the logic of his party&#039;s stated policy, Mr English&#039;s correction of him leaves serious doubt of the policy&#039;s integrity. Sometimes caution is not the safest political course. National has merely muddied its water again and given the Government another straw to grab. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Time to break out the Chardonney? </i></p>
<p>Not by a million miles.  But interesting to note that even The Herald is starting to question the Nats integrity:<br />
<a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&#038;objectid=10528932" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&#038;objectid=10528932</a></p>
<blockquote><p> Mr Williamson&#8217;s candour was in accord with the logic of his party&#8217;s stated policy, Mr English&#8217;s correction of him leaves serious doubt of the policy&#8217;s integrity. Sometimes caution is not the safest political course. National has merely muddied its water again and given the Government another straw to grab. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: monkey-boy</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/williamson-goes-to-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-82358</link>
		<dc:creator>monkey-boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks to me like the actual &#039;secret agenda&#039; is how to lose the election. They blindsided us! Everyone seemed to think it was a &#039;secret agenda&#039; to win!

Time to break out the Chardonney?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me like the actual &#8216;secret agenda&#8217; is how to lose the election. They blindsided us! Everyone seemed to think it was a &#8216;secret agenda&#8217; to win!</p>
<p>Time to break out the Chardonney?</p>
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		<title>By: pinetree</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/williamson-goes-to-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-82357</link>
		<dc:creator>pinetree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I suspect Labour and it?s allies will be chomping at the bit to raise this embarrassing episode in the House tomorrow....&quot;

....embarassing, probably, hidden agenda....hells bells, can the Nats seriously be criticised for &#039;hiding&#039; something which is already in the Govt tool-bag..

....surely wasn&#039;t that long ago I the words tolling, Waterview and PPP appear in a press release from the Minister&#039;s of Labour and Finance...

My view, Maurice had his day, loooooong ago....pity Nats haven&#039;t refreshed that arm of the shadow cabinet......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suspect Labour and it?s allies will be chomping at the bit to raise this embarrassing episode in the House tomorrow&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;.embarassing, probably, hidden agenda&#8230;.hells bells, can the Nats seriously be criticised for &#8216;hiding&#8217; something which is already in the Govt tool-bag..</p>
<p>&#8230;.surely wasn&#8217;t that long ago I the words tolling, Waterview and PPP appear in a press release from the Minister&#8217;s of Labour and Finance&#8230;</p>
<p>My view, Maurice had his day, loooooong ago&#8230;.pity Nats haven&#8217;t refreshed that arm of the shadow cabinet&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J Mex</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/williamson-goes-to-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-82335</link>
		<dc:creator>J Mex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another embarasment for National. These guys haven&#039;t got their sh%t sorted out yet.

Shocker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another embarasment for National. These guys haven&#8217;t got their sh%t sorted out yet.</p>
<p>Shocker.</p>
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		<title>By: naughtybynature</title>
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		<dc:creator>naughtybynature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good ole Jim - another well orchestrated beat-up. You have to admire the man - a dinosaur keeping pace with the modern world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good ole Jim &#8211; another well orchestrated beat-up. You have to admire the man &#8211; a dinosaur keeping pace with the modern world.</p>
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		<title>By: And they say politics is a dirty business&#8230; &#171; Ideologically Impure</title>
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		<dc:creator>And they say politics is a dirty business&#8230; &#171; Ideologically Impure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (h/t: The Standard) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (h/t: The Standard) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: QoT</title>
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		<dc:creator>QoT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just cannot believe no one noticed how TOTALLY OBVIOUS the editing of the email is. COME ON, PEOPLE. Either someone forgot to run things past Crosby/Textor or their reputation is staggeringly overblown.


Captcha: &quot;tender underwear&quot;. Worrying, guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just cannot believe no one noticed how TOTALLY OBVIOUS the editing of the email is. COME ON, PEOPLE. Either someone forgot to run things past Crosby/Textor or their reputation is staggeringly overblown.</p>
<p>Captcha: &#8220;tender underwear&#8221;. Worrying, guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/williamson-goes-to-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-82322</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The final three sentences were entirely inserted.&lt;/i&gt;


This is clearly another dirty Labour trick.
Email stealing rubbish bin overturnin labourish lackspottling ninjatech bastards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The final three sentences were entirely inserted.</i></p>
<p>This is clearly another dirty Labour trick.<br />
Email stealing rubbish bin overturnin labourish lackspottling ninjatech bastards!</p>
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		<title>By: Savage</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/williamson-goes-to-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-82320</link>
		<dc:creator>Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think they have quite a good chance of winning the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think they have quite a good chance of winning the election.</p>
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		<title>By: ak</title>
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		<dc:creator>ak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ye gods.  The leaks have turned into a torrent.  

And it&#039;s not like the odd gaffe here and there - it&#039;s more like &lt;em&gt;every time&lt;/em&gt; a senior Nat opens his mouth he or he provides another nail for the tory coffin - and then highlights the fact by trying to hide it!

Silly old me, I used to think that the fact that they would have dragged us all into Iraq and the massive policy u-turns was enough to chill the heart of Josephine Public.

But since then, despite a concerted and &lt;em&gt;admitted&lt;/em&gt; campaign of the most brazen venality to hide policy, we have learned &lt;em&gt;mostly by chance&lt;/em&gt; of plans to:

- raise the cost of GP visits,

- borrow to fund tax cuts, 

- sell Kiwibank,

- &quot;sort out&quot; Working for Families&quot; (later), and...drum roll....

- PRIVATISE: 
Private Profiteering by Pilfering Public Assets: ACC, schools, hospitals, welfare, and now, unbelieveably, ROADS.

Roads!! From the tories! Almost too good to be true. 
The final frontier of free-rollin&#039; kiwis:  a deadly electronic bug inserted into our sacred steel steeds to ensure our wallets are automatically clipped by Maurice and his Big Money mates every time we cut a track, feel the wind in our soul and hit the big out yonder.

And that clip will be bigger than the tax cut! 

Way to go Maurice - can&#039;t think of a more fitting soul to provide the final nail for this shambolic platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ye gods.  The leaks have turned into a torrent.  </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not like the odd gaffe here and there &#8211; it&#8217;s more like <em>every time</em> a senior Nat opens his mouth he or he provides another nail for the tory coffin &#8211; and then highlights the fact by trying to hide it!</p>
<p>Silly old me, I used to think that the fact that they would have dragged us all into Iraq and the massive policy u-turns was enough to chill the heart of Josephine Public.</p>
<p>But since then, despite a concerted and <em>admitted</em> campaign of the most brazen venality to hide policy, we have learned <em>mostly by chance</em> of plans to:</p>
<p>- raise the cost of GP visits,</p>
<p>- borrow to fund tax cuts, </p>
<p>- sell Kiwibank,</p>
<p>- &#8220;sort out&#8221; Working for Families&#8221; (later), and&#8230;drum roll&#8230;.</p>
<p>- PRIVATISE:<br />
Private Profiteering by Pilfering Public Assets: ACC, schools, hospitals, welfare, and now, unbelieveably, ROADS.</p>
<p>Roads!! From the tories! Almost too good to be true.<br />
The final frontier of free-rollin&#8217; kiwis:  a deadly electronic bug inserted into our sacred steel steeds to ensure our wallets are automatically clipped by Maurice and his Big Money mates every time we cut a track, feel the wind in our soul and hit the big out yonder.</p>
<p>And that clip will be bigger than the tax cut! </p>
<p>Way to go Maurice &#8211; can&#8217;t think of a more fitting soul to provide the final nail for this shambolic platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Macro</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/williamson-goes-to-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-82317</link>
		<dc:creator>Macro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No they are NOT ready to run the country - despite having been in opposition for 9 years now, National have twiddled their thumbs and have not developed one credible plank of policy - other than hidden schemes to aid their rich mates. They are not releasing any policy - because they haven&#039;t got any! An A4 of a couple of bullet points is NOT policy. The off the cuff statements from English, Smith, Smith, Williamson, Foss et al are just empty hot air! which in the cold light of day even they are force to admit are completely stupid! There is no policy - but there is a &quot;hidden agenda&quot;. And anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows what that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No they are NOT ready to run the country &#8211; despite having been in opposition for 9 years now, National have twiddled their thumbs and have not developed one credible plank of policy &#8211; other than hidden schemes to aid their rich mates. They are not releasing any policy &#8211; because they haven&#8217;t got any! An A4 of a couple of bullet points is NOT policy. The off the cuff statements from English, Smith, Smith, Williamson, Foss et al are just empty hot air! which in the cold light of day even they are force to admit are completely stupid! There is no policy &#8211; but there is a &#8220;hidden agenda&#8221;. And anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows what that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like every bit of policy these guys release is accompanied by a correction, a denial, a PR back-pedal and a general screw up.

I&#039;m almost feeling sorry for them. Do they really think they&#039;re ready to run the frickin country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like every bit of policy these guys release is accompanied by a correction, a denial, a PR back-pedal and a general screw up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m almost feeling sorry for them. Do they really think they&#8217;re ready to run the frickin country?</p>
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		<title>By: randal</title>
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		<dc:creator>randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uuuuhhhh...maybe his perm frizzed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uuuuhhhh&#8230;maybe his perm frizzed?</p>
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