Written By: - Date published: 10:56 am, May 18th, 2008 - 119 comments
Categories: MMP, same old national -
Tags: dpf, electoral law, FPP, free speech coalition, MMP, national, peter shirtcliffe, sunday star times
The Sunday Star Times reports National is keen to have a referendum on MMP. As you would expect Peter Shirtcliffe has been involved in lobbying the Nats for this policy. It’s just as AYB predicted.
I’m sure the advertising agencies will be rubbing their hands together in glee.
I would imagine we’ll hear a lot about how National just support the democratic right to choose an electoral system while their backers run big money campaigns to push first past the post. I see DPF is already running this line. Considering Peter Shirtcliffe was one of the funders of the ramshackle PR fiasco that was Davey’s Free Speech Coalition, one could be forgiven for suspecting David of sophism.
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Someone better tell the multibillion dollar advertising industry that their efforts are futile. I expect they’ll want to clear out their desks on Monday.
Rob – Thankfully then the electorate has you to protect it from itself. Thank you!
Awesome Billy,
No matter how many links I give about 911 for you to verify, you go on ridiculing me and ignoring the evidence but when somebody writes something you want him to give you links. What if he gave you the links would you go on ridiculing him as well or would you go there to verify his statements through the link.
you know what I think, you are just too chicken shit to check my links because if you can not deny what you see there you’re world will go in a spin. As did mine for quit awhile by the way.
Chicken shit, chicken shit, Billy is a scaredy cat
Captcha: afraid ap-. Very apt. lol
Hi ev,
I do not understand the question. Sorry.
There is no question. Just the answer. And if you don’t see the answer, well, then … there’s no helping you.
L
Wow Lew,
That is deep.
Thankfully then the electorate has you to protect it from itself. Thank you!
No problem sean, all part of the service.
Is it just my imagination or does this site really not like white middle class males? (tom s 12.37pm)
- hi rOb
captcha – which happens, ha ha
[lprent: I run this site, you address it and you address me. I am a white middle class male if you want to use those terms.
I am also a programmer which is of more relevance, and I don't like opinions being attributed to a computer program. I view comments addressed to the site as being an attempt to duck talking to the person you're upset with. Talk to the person whose posts and/or comments you object to.
Don't talk to me.]
Ev: Tell you what – a truce. I’ll go and watch your conspiracy theorist 9/11 films as well (I’m a propaganda geek, it’s why I got into polly sigh) – and you read Eric Hoffer’s `The True Believer’. I’ll mail you a copy if you promise to actually read it.
Maybe then we can talk.
L
Captcha: `encourage side’. This recaptcha business is wonderful.
vto, yes, it is your imagination.
It’s your imagination that lets you see one comment, and imagine that it is representative of “this site” – whatever that might actually be…
(woohoo, I edited a faulty grammar!)
[lprent: thanks - I missed that one.]
– hi rOb
Hi vto – hope the surfing weekend went well…
Sheesh Iprent, calm down. I was referring to the majority users of the site, not whoever the person is running it. Maybe see Mr Pilott’s comment re imagination.
Tom S’s bigotted racism went virtually unchecked by other users so I simply asked the question of “the site”, meaning its users. Challenging racism where it lurks Iprent.
Just trying to imagine the response if Tom S’s post had been similarly dismissive and nasty about gays, whales or equal-rights activists, to use some old terms.
[lprent: Those things don't concern me in this role.
I defend the site from direct and indirect attacks (the latter are tactics making the comment area an unreadable cesspool). I tend to go for a robust defense.
People can discuss their differences of opinions between themselves. I only get concerned when it drops into a flamewar.]
Lew,
Accepted.
I’ll be in Auckland on the 11th of June. To help local 911 truthers to start up an 11th of every month movement.
And in Wellington on the 11th of July to help them there.
Are you in any of these locations, that would be the easiest.
The places were we will do our street action will be announced on my blog.
And yes, I will read the book.
For those of you who want to watch a real authoritative documentary on the subject watch:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIhTXQfiENI it is a 9 part series of 10 minutes each, but I would be happy if you just started with the WTC 7 video.
Also Google: 11th of every month movement
The American people are in trouble and they need our help
By the way, my blog went up 21 places on the NZ blogosphere ranking and was promoted by Tim Selwyn as being Nutty and conspiracy HQ so it goes to show that ignorance is wide spread both in the right and left wing of the kiwi blog world.
Lew,
I looked up the book and it looks really interesting.
Yes, I will definitely read it.
As a complete side issue – vto’s comment about the “majority users” on this site. I don’t think that there is a majority on most topics.
If you look at it by the number of comments (obviously not the posts – this is a labour movement site after all), I think it splits fairly evenly on almost every main political axis. Similarly the quality of comments seems to be high across the whole spectrum.
What is encouraging to me is the strong centrist/extremist split and the slowing increasing number of female commentators.
Overall it makes for some very interesting discussions.