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	<description>The New Zealand labour movement used to have its own newspaper. A group of us thought that now might be a good time for it to be digitally reborn: The Standard v2.0 - now in a new format The Standard v3.0</description>
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		<title>By: Failing the future &#171; The Standard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180387</link>
		<dc:creator>Failing the future &#171; The Standard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and failed the future. New Zealand was among the intransigent &#8220;developed&#8221; nations that spouted empty words but refused to commit to real change. We bear our share of shame for this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and failed the future. New Zealand was among the intransigent &#8220;developed&#8221; nations that spouted empty words but refused to commit to real change. We bear our share of shame for this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zaphod Beeblebrox</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180228</link>
		<dc:creator>Zaphod Beeblebrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might have to back that one up with a bit of scientific evidence. There&#039;s over five hundred peer reviewed studies that I know of that have shown association to a high degree of certainty, so your reply is likely to be quite long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might have to back that one up with a bit of scientific evidence. There&#8217;s over five hundred peer reviewed studies that I know of that have shown association to a high degree of certainty, so your reply is likely to be quite long.</p>
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		<title>By: Cadwallader</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180172</link>
		<dc:creator>Cadwallader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter who attends Copenhagen or who says/does what: Man made climate change is a discredited theory. If Key/Obama/Brown/Rudd see political points in it; leave them to it! They&#039;re losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter who attends Copenhagen or who says/does what: Man made climate change is a discredited theory. If Key/Obama/Brown/Rudd see political points in it; leave them to it! They&#8217;re losers.</p>
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		<title>By: gitmo</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180162</link>
		<dc:creator>gitmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoots mon where&#039;s me Aberdeen Angus ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoots mon where&#8217;s me Aberdeen Angus ?</p>
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		<title>By: illuminatedtiger</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180118</link>
		<dc:creator>illuminatedtiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Says an old fart behind a keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Says an old fart behind a keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Draco T Bastard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180115</link>
		<dc:creator>Draco T Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cash comes from the taxpayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cash comes from the taxpayers.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180108</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Git: what is it with you and gingas? Seen the rear of too many ginga cows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Git: what is it with you and gingas? Seen the rear of too many ginga cows?</p>
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		<title>By: gitmo</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180089</link>
		<dc:creator>gitmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon Terry and the NZ Sustainability Council ... is that this chap

&quot;Since 1991 Simon has also managed an economics consulting partnership, STA Ltd. Through this firm, he has led an extensive series of research projects on issues including climate change response strategies, mechanisms for boosting renewable energy uptake, utility valuation and pricing, transport pricing, water supply contract structures, measures of sustainability, economic issues associated with genetic modification, and energy efficiency uptake.

Prior to founding STA, Simon worked as an investment banker and as a financial journalist. He received a string of awards for his investigative reporting in the National Business Review during the 1980s.&quot;

Yes I&#039;m sure he hasn&#039;t got any financial interests at stake from felching as much money out of climate change as possible... plus he&#039;s a bearded ginga !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon Terry and the NZ Sustainability Council &#8230; is that this chap</p>
<p>&#8220;Since 1991 Simon has also managed an economics consulting partnership, STA Ltd. Through this firm, he has led an extensive series of research projects on issues including climate change response strategies, mechanisms for boosting renewable energy uptake, utility valuation and pricing, transport pricing, water supply contract structures, measures of sustainability, economic issues associated with genetic modification, and energy efficiency uptake.</p>
<p>Prior to founding STA, Simon worked as an investment banker and as a financial journalist. He received a string of awards for his investigative reporting in the National Business Review during the 1980s.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes I&#8217;m sure he hasn&#8217;t got any financial interests at stake from felching as much money out of climate change as possible&#8230; plus he&#8217;s a bearded ginga !</p>
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		<title>By: grumpy</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180073</link>
		<dc:creator>grumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen is not part of &quot;our national credibility&quot;, she&#039;s part of the UNDP&#039;s credibility (which is zero).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen is not part of &#8220;our national credibility&#8221;, she&#8217;s part of the UNDP&#8217;s credibility (which is zero).</p>
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		<title>By: Tigger</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180067</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post rob, nothing like choking someone with their own hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post rob, nothing like choking someone with their own hands.</p>
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		<title>By: tc</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180065</link>
		<dc:creator>tc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to laugh after talking to the folk who voted for Nat&#039;s.....besotted with the spin, got sick of helen (most I speak to haven&#039;t lived in nz pre 2000 so have no shipley/muldoon history) and when you ask about their kids education, tax cuts, S59, EFA, public transport etc etc........gosh they go all quiet and bang on about how unispiring Phil is.

Style is dancing all over substances grave in the current climate, the denial monkeys are everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to laugh after talking to the folk who voted for Nat&#8217;s&#8230;..besotted with the spin, got sick of helen (most I speak to haven&#8217;t lived in nz pre 2000 so have no shipley/muldoon history) and when you ask about their kids education, tax cuts, S59, EFA, public transport etc etc&#8230;&#8230;..gosh they go all quiet and bang on about how unispiring Phil is.</p>
<p>Style is dancing all over substances grave in the current climate, the denial monkeys are everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Bored</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180064</link>
		<dc:creator>Bored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>give us more, its so bloody accurate hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>give us more, its so bloody accurate hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180062</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having very quickly scanned the full speech here&#039;s the bare ones of it. The italics denote my add ons which are intended  to act purely as clarification. 

&quot;A clear and firm signal must be sent to the world.(...) We must also avoid inefficient rules that constrain the carbon market. An open global carbon market is crucial for maximizing global emissions reduction &lt;i&gt;profit flow&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

The words and deeds match.

Oh, missed this wee doozy....&quot;Progress will require commitment, compromise and cash&quot;.

There you go. nuff said. 

Cash comes from compromising any commitment to dealing with the problem which equals progress</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having very quickly scanned the full speech here&#8217;s the bare ones of it. The italics denote my add ons which are intended  to act purely as clarification. </p>
<p>&#8220;A clear and firm signal must be sent to the world.(&#8230;) We must also avoid inefficient rules that constrain the carbon market. An open global carbon market is crucial for maximizing global emissions reduction <i>profit flow</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>The words and deeds match.</p>
<p>Oh, missed this wee doozy&#8230;.&#8221;Progress will require commitment, compromise and cash&#8221;.</p>
<p>There you go. nuff said. </p>
<p>Cash comes from compromising any commitment to dealing with the problem which equals progress</p>
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		<title>By: tc</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180061</link>
		<dc:creator>tc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah just like back in the old money market dealing days.......don&#039;t let truth get in the way of a good story.

Inside the PM&#039;s brain the thoughts are....&quot;Geez this podium&#039;s shiny, I hope geri hasn&#039;t eaten anymore civil servants, Jude quite a spunk if she wasn&#039;t so butch, is there a danish disneyland......etc&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah just like back in the old money market dealing days&#8230;&#8230;.don&#8217;t let truth get in the way of a good story.</p>
<p>Inside the PM&#8217;s brain the thoughts are&#8230;.&#8221;Geez this podium&#8217;s shiny, I hope geri hasn&#8217;t eaten anymore civil servants, Jude quite a spunk if she wasn&#8217;t so butch, is there a danish disneyland&#8230;&#8230;etc&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Welsh</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/words-and-deeds/comment-page-1/#comment-180058</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Key... you is a twat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Key&#8230; you is a twat.</p>
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