[deleted] [You were under a two month ban. For being an idiot and looking to get around it, I've just doubled it to four months] - Bill https://thestandard.org.nz/cake-makers-and-fascists/#comment-1501986
[deleted] [You were under a two month ban. For being an idiot and looking to get around it, I’ve just doubled it to four months] – Bill https://thestandard.org.nz/cake-makers-and-fascists/#comment-1501986
[deleted] [You were under a two month ban. For being an idiot and looking to get around it, I’ve just doubled it to four months] – Bill https://thestandard.org.nz/cake-makers-and-fascists/#comment-1501986
Can. Which is why I said free speech is being limited. Limited by a fascist mayor uncomfortable with the opinion of a 23 year old blond. [lprent: Banned 2 months. Making actionable assertions without any supporting facts is what I consider to be a action ...
Churches have an exemption as long as their lead denomination has the exemption. That is what was promised when the SSM law was being debated.
Getting married is a choice. Using that specific cake maker over others is a choice. As for discrimination, happens every day. Your position discriminated against the free association of a private business.
They can get another venue, but by refusing access to council venues, Goff is limiting their right to speak. It’s not rocket science.
I didn’t say you did. You spoke of other people’s vomments, and I gave you an example.
Your beliefs say her beliefs are wrong. Stop judging.
Keep digging. Where does it say the cake shop owner has said gays will go to hell?
You are very confused. A person can believe all sorts of things without hating a person. I believe the man who attacked me after a road rage incident was wrong, and I believe they should face the consequences of their actions, but I don’t hate him.
Withdrawing access to council owned property is limiting free speech. It is substantially limiting the number of venues available, which limits the chance of the event taking place. If you don’t like what they have to say, don’t go. Simple.
labelling the cake maker as a hater? Perhaps you should have read other comments before responding to a post about other comments!!!
But Siobhan specifically applied the word hate.
Getting married is a choice. So is which cake shop you buy your cake from.
There seems no doubt Goff has the legal right to refuse access to council facilities. The bigger issue is whether in a free society he should exercise that right to limit free speech, when clearly there is no physical threat to anyone, and the speakers ...
“Being gay in and of itself does not spread intolerance and hate.“ Oh the irony!! You do realise the intolerance and hate being directed here toward the cake maker?
There is no evidence the cake maker hates anyone. But feel free to feed the hysteria.
Being black is not a choice. Getting married is.
And it would be entirely their business for a Board to make an appointment on such a basis. But a quote, per se, just patronises the people it seeks to benefit. I have worked alongside plenty of terrific women on boards - they don't need your help McFlock,...
Another stupid idea. I mean why only half? If appointments are based on merit, whose to say there shouldn't be more women than men? Or more men than women?
A good win for the taxpayers union. And well done David Parker for making the right noises. https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/105253796/council-releases-12m-cost-of-library-touch-wall-as-attorneygeneral-demands-urgent-action-over-secrecy
The dossier of Key's lies was a joke. But if you seriously think only National politicians tell lies, I have several bridges to sell you. https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/labours_lies.html https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/05/labours_lies_on_health_...
The question is whether or not you got the irony of David using a statistic to claim that "statistics can be skewed to blow a particular trumpet.”
"You really shouldn’t go all dogmatic on something as inherently flexible as a bunch of statistics." You really shouldn't make up bulls&*t and think you can get away with it.
"Depends on the comparison doesn’t it. " No, it really doesn't. The Trading Economics numbers are reliable. You f(*&'d up.
Once more: "...per capita GDP declined..." https://thestandard.org.nz/shock-horror-national-is-telling-fibs-about-labours-industrial-relations-policy/#comment-1498222 “The GDP per Capita in New Zealand is equivalent to 292 percent of the world’s average. ...
"You didn’t prove shit " So you don't trust Trading Economics?
I'm interested to know how feel this abuse of power and disregard for the parliamentary process might reflect a wider arrogance within the Labour party. https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=201220
"money was not a major factor" Yes, destroys your argument.
The link speaks for itself. Unless you can't be bothered reading it because you're afraid of an inconvenient truth.
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