ACT, the continuing implosion

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1. Mbossa 1

   27 September 2011 at 7:17 am

   I don’t completely agree that decriminalisation supporters would never vote ACT (although they might not vote for what ACT has become). I personally know quite a few ACT supporters who would never vote Green in a million years but wholeheartedly support decriminalisation or legalisation of cannabis. ACT On Campus (http://www.actoncampus.org.nz/) quite clearly support legalisation, and our good friend Cactus Kate is quite a strong proponent of it too.

   I reckon now would be a great time for the Libertarianz to step into the breach and tell the not-insignificant subset of ACT voters who are socially liberal as well as economically liberal that they are the party they’re looking for. They won’t win any seats this time round, but if they played their cards right they could place themselves quite well for 2014.
   • The Voice of Reason 1.1

     27 September 2011 at 7:46 am

     I certainly hope the Libertarianz do well in Epsom! Every vote that doesn’t go to ACT is a small victory for the rest of us. I’d love to see some polling in the seat following dopey Don’s musing, because the only candidate who isn’t a blow in, a stooge or a patsy is Labour’s David Parker. And he must be laughing today.
     • Ben Clark 1.1.1

       27 September 2011 at 8:35 am

       David Parker’s line of “Vote Banks, get both dopes” is classic…
     • queenstfarmer 1.1.2

       27 September 2011 at 9:18 am

       David Parker isn’t a blow in? Actually, his nomination for the seat is pretty much the definition of that.

       But to the beset folk of Epsom, he may just be starting to look a heck of a lot better than the farcical rest.
2. tc 2

   27 September 2011 at 7:20 am

   Well Eddie they voted for the odious wodney last time out who proceeded to screw them and the rest of akl over with a supercity that’s head is still spinning with systems not implemented, dysfunctional structures and cronies atop the key boards.

   Banks is a marked improvement in some respects as at least he’s too lazy to wreak havoc like wodders, more the sit back and spin type whilst deciding how best to keep his snout in the trough.

   At least ACT get to have an MP on a full parliamentary pension again as Woger is going so like for like really.
   • Bored 2.1

     27 September 2011 at 7:42 am

     Thhe unfortunate thing about ACT is that their core beliefs are enshrined in the legislation Roger and crew put through in the 70s, and theirs is the prevailing orthodoxy. Labour in 9 years failed to roll this back, and Nact are a mirror of the Rogernomes. They have just got better at spinning and kid gloving it.
     • bbfloyd 2.1.1

       27 September 2011 at 12:40 pm

       i’m assuming it’s a typo, but roger was rogering us in the eighties… muldoon was doing the nasty to us in the seventies… different crew… same outcome, more or less..
       • Bored 2.1.1.1

         27 September 2011 at 5:04 pm

         Yeah BB, I had just woken up and it is a typo…Muldoon???? Perhaps I was having a nightmare.
3. higherstandard 3

   27 September 2011 at 7:32 am

   What’s Jacinda Arden doing posing with Key and Brownlee ?
   • Bored 3.1

     27 September 2011 at 7:39 am

     LOL….i have always thought her beautiful white teeth rather enhance her smile.
     • Lanthanide 3.1.1

       27 September 2011 at 8:45 am

       My bf has commented that they’re so distracting you can’t concentrate on what she’s actually saying and when she’s trying to front on a sensitive or concerning issue, it makes a small mockery of it seeing these flashing white teeth that almost look like a permanent smile.
       • Bored 3.1.1.1

         27 September 2011 at 5:02 pm

         Personally I think she has a lovely smile and is a fine looking lass (with a hint of menace …I suspect her tongue might be a little too sharp for Key to handle). I propose she should be used as the front person who looks better than Key, Mr Joe Smoothy in his Italian suit versus her sharp TV photo friendly looks. Mr Sound Clip Photo Op might be harried into second place in the public image gallery.
         • Ianupnorth 3.1.1.1.1

           27 September 2011 at 10:23 pm

           She certainly makes Bridges look like a pillock.
   • Kevin Welsh 3.2

     27 September 2011 at 7:52 am

     ‘Cause Bunter Bennett takes up too much room.
     • Craig Glen Eden 3.2.1

       27 September 2011 at 10:09 am

       Isnt that bunter on the right Brash in the middle and Banks on the left? Lol

       H/S I think Jacinda would have a little chuckle at that comment after she had come back with some little smart quip of her own.
4. Rich 4

   27 September 2011 at 9:26 am

   I guess ACT may well be short of grassroots activists (having pissed so many people off) and this might be an effort to get a couple more. But their normal MO is not to worry about that and use their wealthy supporters dollars to pay for campaigning – has something changed?
5. aerobubble 5

   27 September 2011 at 9:28 am

   decriminalization is an import issue, while most people DONT either totally
   disagree or totally agree, MOST people agree with legalization for medical use.
   So here we have the classic lobby construct that trashes democracy.
   Some fuckwit sees that there is a force of people who want and need
   change on the issue, and so some right wing politician sees an opportunity
   to get out in front and misdirect the popular sentiment away from change
   and so stop real debate.
   So Brash comes out says he wants to talk about decriminalizaton, yeah,
   what exactly does he have in mind, he never says once about medical
   use. Not once.
   Its why our democracy does not work, MSM loves right wing hecklers.
   I do not want decriminalization, I do not want criminalization, I
   want medical use and a advertizing campaign that stress how only the
   ol and infirmed need drug enhancements.
6. prism 6

   27 September 2011 at 10:26 am

   Why would the people of Epsom vote for these two?

   Because they’re perverse, reverse, obtuse and confused thinkers, and a living example of the Peter Principle whereby you rise to a level in society/organisation that is just above your level of capability and spend the rest of your time ineffectively covering up and relying on the efforts and brainpower of those at a lower level.
7. Afewknowthetruth 7

   27 September 2011 at 11:13 am

   At least Laurel and Hardy were amusing.

   The self-serving, sociopathological liars who constitute ACT are not the slightest bit amusing.
8. Pascal's bookie 8

   27 September 2011 at 11:42 am

   Latest media narrative, hot off the press:

   http://bit.ly/peCTQn

   Banks has all the moral authority in the party now.

   We’ve already seen with the dope debate that nothing will happen in the new-look ACT without his say-so.

   It is one-nill to Banksie.

   That is the way it is going to go from here on in. Banks is in charge.
9. randal 9

   27 September 2011 at 12:06 pm

   the way I understand it is Boscawen gets $40,000 if he hangs around and stands for Tamaki. Is this true?
   • Blighty 9.1

     27 September 2011 at 12:44 pm

     any MP who retires at an election or loses a seat gets it
10. John D 10

    27 September 2011 at 1:15 pm

    That TV3 video was rather cringeworthy, I have to agree.
11. Akldnut 11

    27 September 2011 at 3:08 pm

    My question would be “which of the three in the picture is number three on the list?
    I’m guessing number 1 is the guy in the middle.
12. Treetop 12

    27 September 2011 at 3:50 pm

    The way I see it is that Act consists of two people Brash and Banks. Two people who are having a tug of war because the leader of Act is such an ass as he has shown that he is unable to communicate with the ONLY hope that Act has.

    How stupid is Brash to think that he can offer Act any stability.

    How long is Brash going to last if Banks wins Epsom?

    Maybe if Brash goes now Banks has his best chance of taking Epsom.
13. Georgy 13

    27 September 2011 at 3:54 pm

    Can anyone explain what this means, in particular the ‘paradigm effect?

    “Just because it’s the view of the leader doesn’t mean it has a paradigm effect on my free thinking around drugs,” said Mr Banks [Herald today]
    • McFlock 13.1

      27 September 2011 at 6:16 pm

      It means that in order to do anything less than mercilessly persecute even the most minor drug offences, Banks would have to fundamentally change his world view (i.e. have an effect on his paradigm). This applies whether he is a member for a socially liberal party or not.

      It might be advisable for ACToids to also explore his views on abortion, homosexuality and prostitution. I wonder if they’ve asked him yet?
14. McFlock 14

    27 September 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Lol. Apparently Boscawen didn’t like early starts .
    Isn’t that what they get a double-dipton allowance for? At the very least he could have rented a room and flown down the night before. Pretty weak excuse.
    • Mbossa 14.1

      27 September 2011 at 6:42 pm

      Hehe, he’s been getting up at 4:20. Wake and bake?
    • millsy 14.2

      27 September 2011 at 10:01 pm

      Here’s me thinking that ACT are all about early starts, Calvinist/Presbyterian work ethic and all.
15. Rodel 15

    27 September 2011 at 8:08 pm

    ACT is about as genuine and absurd as the Disney, sorry Destiny party was.
    Honestly how could anyone think of voting to let such a pair of losers as Banks and Brash have any say in the running of our fair country?

    By the way- Thanks Helen and co. for negotiating the rugby world cup to be in New Zealand.

    Oh my Gawd! I just imagined Don Brash or Banks representing NZ at such a negotiating table-Our ambitions would be gone by breakfast time. Unthinkable!
16. uke 16

    27 September 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Banks & Brash are presumably in agreement on one thing, though. Neither knew about the misleading of investors in the Kiwisaver fund they were both directors of:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/5690645/Huljich-pleads-guilty-to-misleading-investors
17. Nick C 17

    27 September 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Hey Eddie you should follow this up with a post about how the National Party is far too stage managed and how this undermines any genuine internal debate and input by members. That would be great.
18. Jenny 18

    28 September 2011 at 6:02 am

    Hoisted by his own petard?

    Mr Key revealed National’s pitch for the November 26 election yesterday, saying New Zealanders would weigh up which of the parties could deliver “the strongest and most stable government”.

    John Key

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5694643/Labour-up-but-challenge-ahead-for-Goff

    The implication of the above statement that Key is trying to create in the public mind is that a coalition of the left would, not be “the strongest and most stable government”.

    With the continuing slow car crash being played out daily by National’s main support party, is if anything a warning that a coalition made up with the help of the loony right would be anything but, “strong and stable”.

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