And the winner is…

Written By: - Date published: 10:07 pm, August 28th, 2014 - 119 comments
Categories: david cunliffe, john key - Tags:

According to the Herald:

3-1 to Cunliffe; Fran O’Sullivan, Toby Manhire and John Armstrong say Cunliffe, Audrey Young went for Key.

TVNZ:

Corin Dann says Cunliffe on points.

Fairfax:

No authoritative verdict, but the article says Key rattled, Cunliffe composed, so apparently Cunliffe.

Text poll: 61% Key 39% Cunliffe among people who can afford to waste 75c on a text.

TV3:

studiously ignoring the fact that TVNZ had a debate.

Update – twitter on the text poll:

keycunliffedebatepoll1 keycunliffedebatepoll2

 

119 comments on “And the winner is…”

  1. ghostwhowalksnz 1

    Third place goes to Hosking, what was the party he represents ?

    • karol 1.1

      The WO-Media Party

    • Richard Christie 1.2

      The Look at Me party

    • Matthew Hooton 1.3

      I don’t think that is fair. Given he clearly votes National, admires Key and doesn’t like Cunliffe, I thought he did a very good job. At least as good a debate as Key/Goff and Clark/Key and much better than the Clark/Brash fiascos.

      • felix 1.3.1

        Given he clearly votes National, admires Key and doesn’t like Cunliffe, he probably shouldn’t have been there at all.

        • Matthew Hooton 1.3.1.1

          That case can be made, and has been. But under the circumstances, I thought he was very fair. If anything (and this is only very marginal) I thought he gave a slightly easier ride to Cunliffe than Key, the same way John Campbell is just marginally softer towards the National leader when he does similar debates. Last night was certainly more illuminating than anything else in this “campaign” so far.

      • TheContrarian 1.3.2

        Yeah Hosking was fair – I’ll give him that (weird jokes about Cunliffe dating his own children aside)

      • AmaKiwi 1.3.3

        The role of the moderator is nothing more than to be a traffic policeman insuring each debater sticks to their allotted time to answer the question and to stop talking over.

        The format was a sham, a verbal brawl.

        What would any parliament be like if this chaos was tolerated.

      • David H 1.3.4

        And what’s the betting he (Hosking) got a severe bollocking from TricKey’s political minders after that debacle.

      • Rodel 1.3.5

        My apologies Matthew , much as I am against your politics and methods I think you are right. Hoskings was pretty fair and tried hard to be a proper mediator. For once you make reason.
        Hey your mate Brash was a fiasco all by himself.

  2. Skinny 2

    The debate showed that John Key is over politics. Pretty much a lackluster performance which signals that Key is counting the clock down.

    • BLiP 2.1

      I agree. In fact, I reckon Key has been “over it” for some time. Failfax is reporting that . . .

      . . . Key said Cunliffe’s predecessor Helen Clark was much stronger on policy.

      . . . which is kinda telling. Cunliffe’s predecessor was actually Shearer and Godd before him so, if Key’s comment has been accurately reported, its like he now sees Cunliffe as Prime Minister.

      • Rich 2.1.1

        I like that sort of analysis.

        • weka 2.1.1.1

          +1. Very insightful BLip

        • aerobubble 2.1.1.2

          Key does actually say anything, and hasnt for some time. People look for leadership, want to get an idea of what their leaders think, so they can predict them. Key could just as easily bail beneficiaries out as sell off assets, while raising GST and handing over a huge taxcut windfall to the richest. Key’s did next to nothing except gut the deposit guarantee in light of the GFC, yet another service Australians get that Key feels hurts our economy. Yeah, how does protecting savings of kiwis make it easier for them to take financial risks, well a lot actually, if they had them.

          Key is insufferably bland, useless at anything more than pissing in the wind to shine the next turd blossom his media panel his people come up with.

      • Colonial Viper 2.1.2

        Cunliffe’s predecessor was God(d)…what does that mean! 😈

        • Brendon Harre 2.1.2.1

          D is next to F on the keyboard. Give BLiP a break….

        • BLiP 2.1.2.2

          Heh! I always said I wouldn’t get glasses until I couldn’t do my morning crossword. While I can still manage that, the other day I got lost out Henderson way and couldn’t read the map!! Now I’m making more and more typos. Public shame is the tipping point . . . . . . odd to the optometrist for me this weekenf 😉

          • CnrJoe 2.1.2.2.1

            jon lenin frames?

          • Tracey 2.1.2.2.2

            i have glasses and struggle to see my morning crossword. We didnt watch the debate in the peoples republic of mt eden, did we really miss anything?

            • Rosie 2.1.2.2.2.1

              You missed DC being fabulous! Calm, cool headed and collected whilst simultaneously being strong, policy focused and at the ready with an answer and a counter argument for everything. He really came across as a leader. I wanted to give the man a hug.

              Key looked tired and under duress, like he just couldn’t be bothered any more.

              Mike Hoskings wasn’t as bad as I was expecting.

          • David H 2.1.2.2.3

            I’ll tell you BLiP it will be the best decision you have made for a while. It’s like seeing all over again, and if you get headaches after reading, they will also go away.

  3. millsy 3

    I havent seen the debate, but it is good to know that Cunliffe performed well.

    It is early days, but this should give him a boost of confidence for the next debate.

    • Colonial Viper 3.1

      Key is going to come out firing from minute zero in the next debate. He’s going to try and rattle Cunliffe hard so Cunliffe must be prepared to stay cool and statesman like, saving the fire in the belly for just the right times.

  4. Herodotus 4

    After struggling to watch that…. The 800k non voter turnout from 2011 may now hit 1m.

  5. weka 5

    Interesting to see the NewstalkZB poll change so much in the past hour.

    Now:
    John Key 34 %
    David Cunliffe 32 %
    Neither/It was a tie 34 %
    Unsure 0 %

    Earlier: 71% Cunliffe to 28% Key

    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/election/

    • the pigman 5.1

      It’s gone even more mental than that, 46% now calling it a tie.

      There’s gonna be some carpal tunnel syndrome for whatever fool is sitting there re-voting and refreshing 😀

      • David H 5.1.1

        “There’s gonna be some carpal tunnel syndrome for whatever fool is sitting there re-voting and refreshing 😀 ”

        So that’s what happened to Jason Ede this must be his new important job.

    • Clemgeopin 5.2

      At the end of the day, these manipulated ‘poll results’ ackshully make no difference because people who watched the debate ackshully KNOW for themselves who performed better and who was rattled and is ackshully on the way out at the end of the day on Sept 20.

  6. emergency mike 6

    I’d really like to know whose brilliant idea it was to have a $0.75 per text poll where the results are announced as the debate ends. I.e. most votes cast before the end of the debate. I.e. what bollocks.

    • McFlock 6.1

      funnily enough, I didn’t catch any mention of that poll on the one news coverage at 10:40pm.

      Perhaps between the web crash and maybe time to do a quick breakdown of the cell numbers that txt-voted some issues in the concept showed up 🙂

      • emergency mike 6.1.1

        Indeed. Normally some numbers with an oh-so-snazzy graphic is automatically slapped on at the end.

      • seeker 6.1.2

        Went to vote on tvnz website at 7.25pm it then said Key 60% Cunliffe 40%. I voted for Cunliffe and the figures changed to 61% Key and 39% Cunliffe!! Strange I thought, then Hosking said the site had crashed.
        I rang tvnz and they took my vote over the phone saying something had gone wrong but one could still comment or text but I said that wouldn’t be fair as many could not afford 75c texts or, in my case mobile phones. Just sticking to comments seemed fairer.
        However I noticed that neither of my votes changed the outcome at the end which was the same as the one I noticed at 7.25pm when the site crashed i.e.Key 61% Cunliffe 39% thus I knew they had published an inaccurate/scuppered poll result..Yes, something definitely went wrong with tvnz’s online voting set up tonight. I’m surprised that wowee investigative reporter Andre Vance hadn’t noticed before she wrote her article. (never think of Tracy Watkins as being ‘investigative’.)

        Fotnote-looked at vote online site at 8.30pm and it had shifted back to Key 60% and Cunliffe 40% ! Ghost in the machine?

        Thought there might have been an apology for this mess up on the 10.40pm news.

        • McFlock 6.1.2.1

          several thousand votes in, I wouldn’t expect any variation related to an individual’s vote.
          But a vote so thoroughly at odds with even tory commentators tends to suggest something going on – maybe dirty politics, maybe just a system designed by the folk who did wheedle mark 1 🙂

      • Not a PS Staffer 6.1.3

        39% of texters said they prefer Cunliffe to Key. That is an excellent result for Cunliffe. Given the Labour demographics: the 75c charge; and the certainty that many Nats were texting from every phone within reach; a 4/10 spilt was a significant success.

        Go Cunliffe. This is why we picked you to be the Labour Party Leader. I’ll stand you a pint at the Black Salt.

  7. Leroy 7

    Wow – How good was David Cunliffe? Leader for only 10 months vs. JK 7 years and one of our most popular prime ministers ever. Looks like he wants to be PM – there was fire in his belly!

    One has to wonder what is going on within National? Key did not seem his usual self!

    • Clemgeopin 7.1

      I think ‘Collins’ and the ‘Dirty Politics’ is on his mind.

      • emergency mike 7.1.1

        All the free polls about the debate are favouring Cunliffe. The tide is turning. I’m guessing National’s internal polling means that Key already knows this. This is a governmet that has always been about brand Key. That brand is sinking fast. He has finally insulted the public’s intelligence a bridge too far over Dirty Politics re Collins, Ede, and ‘his office’. He’s got too close to Slater, now the smell just won’t go away. He know’s this job is a goner and is thinking about his next career move.

        Even Sean Plunket is coming around to what Hager’s book is saying about the National party. (Apparently he had a brain surge after accidently watching All The President’s Men.)

      • Kiwiri 7.1.2

        I think ‘Collins’ and the ‘Dirty Politics’ is on his mind.

        And political dirt on his [JK’s] hands.

        • AmaKiwi 7.1.2.1

          The Horizon poll shows how devastating Dirty Politics has been for National. I tried to post the link a few minutes ago but was told it was spam. Curious that I got this link yesterday from The Standard. Here goes again: http://www.horizonpoll.co.nz/attachments/docs/horizon-research-political-conduct-survey-repo.pdf

          [lprent: The site has a problem at present with comments going into auto-spam when they have odd punctuation like :// from a link. I haven’t located what is doing it, and probably won’t until the weekend. At present we’re manually shoving stuff out of the auto-spam folder. ]

    • Blue 7.2

      One has to wonder what is going on within National? Key did not seem his usual self!

      He’s over it. Done his dash as PM and is now dreaming of Hawaii. There’s no other way to explain it. He’s only ever wanted to be PM while it was easy – buoyant opinion polls, adoring media and a worshipful public. The fact that he considered quitting over the teapot tapes shows exactly where his mind must be at right now.

  8. Delia 8

    David Cunliffe was excellent.

    John Key seemed unprepared. He is busy, but so is Cunliffe and Cunliffe was ready for it.

  9. CeeH 10

    plus JK had an Xtra boost with the polls just before the debate – so, fantastic for David to come out on top. All praise to God.

  10. Jesus Wept 11

    Small point here.
    We voted significantly for DC in the Labour primaries. We needed an articulate voice to state the bleedingly obvious. You were humble, you got a bit dissed. Imagine right now how the other dude bless him would have fared. Not too well to state the bleedingly obvious.
    Well done tall guy. You pissed all over him. And you even impressed the hoskingcreep.
    Don’t forget if you get 42-3% in these debate things you’re probably in. You’ve got the Russell and Meretia (and some people you don’t acknowledge yet) cutting down the percentage that this weird horrible inarticulate hologram has left. Keep it up dude.

  11. Redzone 12

    About belief. Well done Cunliffe- took your opportunity tonight and owned key. Perhaps not a game changer but has definitely opened the door for the underdog.

    Weight of the whale on key. He’s checking out and it shows. His confidence has visibly diminished now and the Teflon has gone. He’s psyched out.

    Peter’s well timed Collins comment moments before the debate was incendiary. How the hell does peters mange to pull off hits like that? Can’t stand him but no denying he is the master of timing.

    Keys lesson is he should have fired Collins and didn’t and now he pays the consequence big time. She’s the albatross and It’s messing with him big time and he can’t hide it.

    If key thought the tea tapes were bad then this is 10 times worse.

    • Colonial Viper 12.1

      Winston Peters was mentored by Sir Robert Muldoon. And it shows.

    • Clemgeopin 12.2

      Collins has denied it and called Winston a liar!

      I believe Winston more than I do Collins, but
      I hope Winston has some proof.

      • emergency mike 12.2.1

        “Collins has denied it and called Winston a liar!”

        Well she has to, she’s on her last last warning…

        Winston Peters, quote of the year: “I didn’t put the ‘N’ in the National Party, they did.” I don’t know what it means but I like it.

        • Clemgeopin 12.2.1.1

          N=Nasty? Neo?

        • crocodill 12.2.1.2

          lol just watched that interview. Winston says the National party claim to be Nationalists (the N in National) like him and his, which they don’t and never have done. So when has he ever misled the public..? oooh at about the time he said that I guess, but hey, I didn’t put the W in Winston.

      • weka 12.2.2

        I wouldn’t believe Collins either, and even if Peters is lying, it serves her bloody well right.

        Look at Peters’ facial expression, after he makes the statement about not going out there and telling the country he’d do one thing and then do another, around 9.20. He’s a master at this stuff, far outclassing Key. He’s telling the truth about asset buyback (probably, although there is a caveat in there I’m sure), but when he realises what he has just said (when did I ever mislead the public) he can’t help having a wee Muldoon-esque lopsided smile. I would guess it’s similar with the Collins thing. There is a truth in there, but it’s not a clear, open and honest truth. It’s one that completely supports Peters’ agenda.

        http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/full-interview-winston-peters-on-judith-collins-and-dirty-politics-2014082818

        • Clemgeopin 12.2.2.1

          I hope it is not a lie, because even though not many like Collins any more, lying is not ok.

          Thanks for the link. A brilliant interview. As I said, I still believe Winston over Collins, Key, Slater, Joyce any day!

      • Tracey 12.2.3

        she prolly didnt understand peters comment. Afterall she thought the privacy commissioner had cleared her of releasing a name to slater for bullying, intimidation and death threats.

        • You_Fool 12.2.3.1

          Her denial clearly showed that She didn’t understand Peter’s statement, unless she was getting in some practice for being PM and merging her office, office staff and herself into one mass-conglomerate

      • AmaKiwi 12.2.4

        The more often Collins is mentioned in the news, the more National is damaged. It’s a bit like someone constantly interjecting a reminder that you cheated on your taxes or stole from your employer.

    • kenny 12.3

      Like I’ve said before – Key won’t sack Collins because she knows where the bodies are buried. Through her friendship with Slater she knows just how deep Key is involved in dirty politics and how many lies he has told.

      • TE 12.3.1

        Yes agree with you there Kenny, thats probably why key will just be very laid back, mundane and boring till the fat lady sings.
        Once a liar always a liar, john key’s backside is as burnt as ‘on the last warning’ collins and ‘only I can publicize stolen email’s’ slater,
        Hypocrite’s all of them.

  12. Rich 13

    “The question drew 45,898 responses, with 61% voting John Key as the most impressive and 39% being most impressed by David Cunliffe.”

    Anybody want to go to the National Party’s ledger and see if they can find 21k election spending for tonight?

    🙂

  13. Jrobin 14

    Key can’t wait to get back to insider trading and hobnobbing it with Jamie Dimon. He is trying to lose now, just watch the rats leaping as the ship tilts and shudders. Why oh why would anyone think Winston would creep into a coalition with Ms Injustice? David was superb, take that Herald Digipoll, presumably they polled Remuera and Central Otago only.

  14. Brian 15

    Assured, collected, in command.
    DC was a good choice.

  15. blue leopard 16

    TV3 did cover the debate. It was on ‘The Paul Henry Show’ Tova O Brian was on giving a run-down of the events. …Oh hell, I have forgotten what she said – from memory it was positive for Cunliffe. You’ll just have to go and watch it online if you want to know more: http://www.3news.co.nz/TVShows/PaulHenryShow

    I have to say Paul Henry, despite being a self-confessed right wing bigot (or words to that effect), does some pretty good political interviews.

    • bad politics 16.1

      Yes, Paul Henry does. One thing about last nights debate, is Mike Hosking was way out of his depth, Alison Mau & Sean Plunkett were having a bit of a laugh about it, especially the weird ‘date night’ question.

      Cunliffe was bloody good.

      • Rodel 16.1.1

        Nah. Mike Hoskings ( and I’m not a fan of his) did quite well.
        I liked the way he stopped Key in his tracks, at first saying something like, ” This isn’t a party political broadcast. Can you please just answer the question?’

        It was a fairly well run debate and Hoskings didn’t insert his Ferrari driven Tory bias.Well done Mike…

        PS I’m glad Cunliffe dominated. God I so hope he’s our next PM. ( and I’m not even religious).
        Stay positive folks!

  16. NZJester 17

    Looks like the NZ Herald “Buzzdial” thing gave the debate to Cunliffe.

    The right will make a lot about the text poll giving the debate to John Key by talking it up, while they are downplaying all the ones that show David Cunliffe the clear winner.
    Your line of “among people who can afford to waste 75c on a text” says a lot about the very heavy bias that poll should have had for National. In my mind the fact David still reached 39% on that poll says a lot about Nationals current appeal to those more well healed. The crack in John Keys nice guy mask has cracked even further and Cameron Slater’s face peeking out from inside is scaring the right wing voters away from National. I just wish a lot less of them would be switching to Act or the Conservitives and vote Labour for a real positive change.

  17. Brian 18

    Boxing analogy – no knockout but Key stunned by a good straight left!

    • Inky 18.1

      He was groggy, on the ropes and at times defenceless. But he did have the referee in his corner.

      • Paul 18.1.1

        Not just in his corner.
        Throwing the odd punch as well.

        • Rich 18.1.1.1

          Well he threw the odd punch at Key as well, especially when Key did one of his ‘you’re dismissed’ arm wavements and sneer, that resulted in a ‘no, no, no you’re not doing that’ from Hosking who you could see and hear was pretty angry with Key at the time. I just wonder if the media hacks forced to write pro-national junk will, if pushed, turn on their masters, or whether if they are actually National that they have had enough of Key leading that party. After watching the visceral hate for Key last night in Parliament when the guy tried to jump from the balconey which resulted in an attempt to blame Labour for it and a throat cutting gesture from Key I’m surprised that Key has lasted this long, as he’s an absolute turd, or more appropriately as he was called at the time by more than one parliamentarian – ‘a scumbag’.

      • Kevin 18.1.2

        I can’t stand Hosking, but I thought he was fair to both of them.

        • Tracey 18.1.2.1

          i suspect that means the campaign to removed him worked. IF he hadcany intention to favour key, he didnt. I didnt see it so just going by folkscomments here.

          I note that claire trevitts article asked peters dunne and craig what they thought of cunliffes performance but asked no one from greens, imp, etc what they thought of key. Balance?

          • Kiwiri 18.1.2.1.1

            I’ve just been shown the UF’s campaign broadcast. Very puzzling.
            Did the GCSB infiltrate the production and rubbish it?

    • Te Reo Putake 18.2

      Funnily enough, after the debate I switched over to the Ali/Holmes doco on Maori TV. It was the story of a populist winner who took on one fight too many and lost badly to his younger, fresher opponent. Karmic coincidence?

  18. Inky 19

    When David Cunliffe got the Labour job, a friend told me he’d debate the a$$ off Key. That he did. In fact Key’s probably still trying to find his a$$ now.

    An outstanding effort, Mr Cunliffe. More please.

  19. vince warner 20

    Is there a VOD or rebroadcast available of the debate, i tried looking on tvnz and youtube but no luck.

  20. NZJester 21

    If any of you missed the debate it is up online at TVNZ
    http://tvnz.co.nz/one-news/s2014-ep1-video-6066764

    I don’t know if it just my browser but the timing of the ads inserted in at the breaks on these TVNZ on demand videos is annoying. Part of the welcome back from the break speech starts to play before the actual ad finally kicks in late cutting him of mid sentence till after the ads have completed.

  21. dv 22

    I didn’t hear ANY policy from Key (Except the possibility of some cash for first home buyers.)

    NOTHING to support Keys claim we are on the cusp of something great.

    Oh he may be thinking that lab are going to win AND that will be great!!!!

    I heard a lot of Key criticising lab polices.

    BUT he can because Lab has policies.

  22. ScottGN 23

    Herald readers are running about 3 to 1 in favour of Cunliffe.

  23. Tracey 24

    Audrey young gave it to John Key?!? Of course she IS his herald campaign manager.

    Did i read people could vote before thedebate began, surely not? And before it end?

    Baby Cheeses!

    • ghostwhowalksnz 24.1

      Father was National MP, brother is a national MP. Audrey is what they say ‘family’

  24. dave 25

    Key looked flat as if didn’t want to be there the only zip and am was from cunliffe
    And far more serious note hoskins was a fashion disaster of Clarkson like proportions for a media fashion icon like hoskin you really have to wonder if his status needs a review . Any thoughts .

  25. ScottGN 26

    Surprise, surprise former Shipley staffer Claire Robinson calls it a draw in RadioNZ and then goes on to admit that, yes, Cunliffe did actually do better in almost all aspects of the debate.

  26. Pete 27

    Glad to hear Rob Salmond was in Cunliffe’s corner and was advising him during the ad breaks. DC has a good team behind him.

    On Morning Report, Claire Robinson said it was a draw. Which if you convert that into normal-person speak, is a resounding win for Cunliffe.

  27. philj 28

    xox
    Hoskin did a reasonable job of the interview,considering he is biased against Labour. I even heard him criticize Nats housing policy in a question to Key! And with Plonker Plunket having an epiphany after watching “All the Presidents Men”! There is none so blind as them in our MSM.

    Sing along, ( with a smile )

    ” Come on, Honest John,
    Throw in the towel,
    ( And ) move Right along “

  28. philj 29

    xox
    Claire Robinson is another wannabe right wing ‘influencer’ …. like Julie Christie?
    Enema time!

    • ghostwhowalksnz 29.1

      Julie thinks it all so ‘unfair’ After all Key has 65% popularity, and why bother with an election at all.

      The scary part is this moron is an influential director of TV3.

  29. heather tanguay 30

    John Key looked as if he wanted to leave, he looked uncomfortable and rattled, he had no edge at all. David Cunliff was on fire, he is waiting in the wings with great policies, ready to go. His performance, as almost all the media say was the best – come on Audrey catch up!

  30. TheContrarian 31

    I’d go 50/50 for that – a draw.

    Winner takes all next round.

  31. Jenny Kirk 32

    To Seeker @ 6.1.2

    You might think about putting in a complaint to the Broadcasting Standards Authority. You can go direct to them if its an election complaint – without having to go thru the broadcaster and waiting two weeks for a reply. Here’s the link

    http://bsa.govt.nz/complaints/election-programme-complaint

    [lprent: There is a problem with punctuation like the :// falling into autospam. Looks like I won’t be able to track it down and fix until tomorrow. In the meantime we’re just pulling messages out of spam. ]

  32. Jenny Kirk 33

    at Seeker 6.1.2 Have you tried putting in a complaint direct to the Broadcasting Standards Authority re TVNZ poll breakdown last night ? You can go direct to BSA without having to go thru the broadcaster because it would be an election complaint. I won’t put the link up because I’m having difficulty getting this message through – but just google BSA and go to complaints page and follow thru to the election complaints page.

    • Anne 33.1

      To make a formal complaint to TVNZ:

      http://tvnz.co.nz/content/823787

      I’ve just submitted a complaint and the more people who do so the better!!

      Note: You must first complain to the offending broadcaster/TV outlet, and then if their response is unsatisfactory you can refer the matter to the BSA.

      Always worth doing because it forces the broadcaster to toe the line regardless of the outcome.

  33. vto 34

    But how can this be anything other than Key being a “winner”. That is what he is, isn’t he? He is a winner – he has gone overseas and traded money and come back and bought a house at Omaha and has millions. He is a winner. He takes no prisoners. He epitomises all that is right and good with the neoliberal me-me-me generation. It is all about the self and Key is it. So how can Key be anything but a “winner”. What a winner.

    And how can Cunliffe be anything other than a loser? That is what the tv ad shows isn’t it? That’s they way in which people like Collins talk about people like Cunliffe … “what a loser”. He is not even in business ffs. Why isn’t Cunliffe milking his political business opportunities? What a loser. Wasting his time with losers in south Auckland and other “feral” places.

    winners and losers

    the choice is as clear as a bell

    unfortunately for key the tide is well on the ebb now and those previous ‘winners’ are no longer

    • Murray Olsen 34.1

      You’re 100% correct about the way people like Collins talk about people like Cunliffe, and it goes further than that. My PhD supervisor was Dan Walls, sometimes said to be the greatest Kiwi scientist since Rutherford. If he’d lived a few more years he very probably would have gained a Nobel Prize. At his funeral there were some businessmen from his church in Mission Bay/St. Heliers. They were saying what a waste it was that he’d used his brain for something other than business.

      The moneychangers need throwing out of a lot more than just the temple.

  34. Sable 35

    I never watched as I have no time for National or Labour, its MMP not a two horse FPP system anymore. I do remember the debate between John Kerry and Bush jnr for the US presidency. Kerry wiped the floor with Bush but Bush still won. So whilst this may be nice for Labour supporters I may not be that significant.

    What is important for Labourites is Labour getting its message out there which I do not believe they are doing well at all. Their bill boarding in particular this election has been woeful thus far when compared to National and the Greens….

    • Kiwiri 35.1

      Not that many Labour billboards. Lots of National and Greens. And nicely and clearly standing out are Internet-MANA.

    • aerobubble 35.2

      I sometimes wonder whether Labour might actually worry it will win, when the housing market is so close to collapse. The farm debt is high, all China needs is to throttle back a bit on milk (or the Eu start pumping it as I hear they are about to), and NZ housing prices start wobbling. I mean its a poisoned chalice, would explain why Key has such a hard time saying anything substantive as nothing to say. All style no substance.

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    . . Just when you thought Simon Bridges couldn’t sink any lower – he has. After the March 15th  Christchurch terror attack, the (current) Leader of the National Party issued strong committments to support urgently needed gun law reform; “We will be ready and prepared to be constructive and to ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 day ago
  • Only the least intelligent students, with bad parents, will attend the nonsense climate strike
    We all know that bad parents simply don’t care about their children’s education. Most truants have loser parents, and grow up to be involved with crime, or in low paid employment usually like their parents. The nonsense so-called “climate strike” coming up will be attended mostly by the least intelligent ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    2 days ago
  • Professional Internet Trolls being used to push manmade climate change lies
    Is the terrorist Organisation Greenpeace and the loony Green parties around the World hiring professional internet trolls? I have noticed a trend lately where if you post research, news articles or even comments that show the manmade climate change scam to be just that, you are immediately attacked, often within ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: Strike!
    Today is the first day of the global climate strike. Led by schoolkids, people all around the world are going to protest to demand action on climate change. New Zealand isn't doing it till next Friday (join us!), but if you want to get active early, there's plenty to do ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: Squandering our opportunity?
    The Herald has a story today about the 400 MW of wind power currently under construction. Good news, right? Except that none of it is being driven by policy (instead, its about replacing Contact Energy's Taranaki Combined Cycle gas-fired power plant, due to shut down in 2022), and most of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Protect The King!
    To Protect and Serve: When the Prime Minister finds herself enmeshed in the coils of a full-blown political scandal, her colleagues and party comrades have only one priority: to release her as swiftly – and with as little lasting injury – as possible. Is this what Jacinda Ardern’s colleagues and ...
    2 days ago
  • The rot at the top.
    When military leaders cover up and lie to elected civilian authorities, the foundation of democratic civil-military relations is undermined because it is those authorities who are entrusted to hold the military accountable to the public that they mutually serve. But this is only true if civilian political authorities take their ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 days ago
  • Challenging the voting age in court
    The Make It 16 campaign to lower the voting age is launching this afternoon, and they have already announced plans to challenge the law in court:The campaign, named "Make it 16" will launch at Parliament on Friday, with plans to take their case to the High Court, testing the rights ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Israel’s elections herald a long siesta
    by Daphna Whitmore The long years of Netanyahu’s reign are drawing to an end. For years he has epitomized reactionary zionism as he oversaw hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers seize land in the West Bank. There are now 700,000 settlers, putting an end to the myth that Israel was ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Petrol companies promise prices will come back down once peace is restored to the Middle East
    BP, Z and Mobil all insist that petrol price hikes are temporary, “in a very literal sense.” The nation’s major petrol providers are trying to allay customer fears over prices, promising that they’ll move to lower them again “immediately” when the Middle East is returned to its formerly peaceful state. ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 days ago
  • All Blacks unveil boat for Rugby World Cup 2019
    South African coach Rassie Erasmus says he has no idea what they’re going to do about the boat. In a highly anticipated press conference this afternoon, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has finally unveiled the team’s boat for its Rugby World Cup 2019 campaign. In a press conference that went ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 days ago
  • An increasingly shoddy coverup
    The Operation Burnham inquiry continued to question senior NZDF staff today, and their shoddy coverup over their knowledge of civilian casualties continue to fall apart. If you recall, first, we were asked to believe that it was all a series of "mistakes and errors": a senior officer with multiple degrees ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • If we are to avoid making the earth uninhabitable, we need to rapidly decarbonise our civilisation, and cut emissions to zero as quickly as possible. This seems like an impossible task, but its not. Pushing hard on a few technologies and trends will let us halve emissions in a decade:Greenhouse ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    3 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    4 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    4 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    4 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    5 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    5 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    6 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    6 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    1 week ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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