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And the winner is…

Written By: - Date published: 10:07 pm, August 28th, 2014 - 119 comments
Categories: david cunliffe, john key - Tags:

According to the Herald:

3-1 to Cunliffe; Fran O’Sullivan, Toby Manhire and John Armstrong say Cunliffe, Audrey Young went for Key.

TVNZ:

Corin Dann says Cunliffe on points.

Fairfax:

No authoritative verdict, but the article says Key rattled, Cunliffe composed, so apparently Cunliffe.

Text poll: 61% Key 39% Cunliffe among people who can afford to waste 75c on a text.

TV3:

studiously ignoring the fact that TVNZ had a debate.

Update – twitter on the text poll:

keycunliffedebatepoll1 keycunliffedebatepoll2

 

119 comments on “And the winner is…”

  1. ghostwhowalksnz 1

    Third place goes to Hosking, what was the party he represents ?

    • karol 1.1

      The WO-Media Party

    • Richard Christie 1.2

      The Look at Me party

    • Matthew Hooton 1.3

      I don’t think that is fair. Given he clearly votes National, admires Key and doesn’t like Cunliffe, I thought he did a very good job. At least as good a debate as Key/Goff and Clark/Key and much better than the Clark/Brash fiascos.

      • felix 1.3.1

        Given he clearly votes National, admires Key and doesn’t like Cunliffe, he probably shouldn’t have been there at all.

        • Matthew Hooton 1.3.1.1

          That case can be made, and has been. But under the circumstances, I thought he was very fair. If anything (and this is only very marginal) I thought he gave a slightly easier ride to Cunliffe than Key, the same way John Campbell is just marginally softer towards the National leader when he does similar debates. Last night was certainly more illuminating than anything else in this “campaign” so far.

      • TheContrarian 1.3.2

        Yeah Hosking was fair – I’ll give him that (weird jokes about Cunliffe dating his own children aside)

      • AmaKiwi 1.3.3

        The role of the moderator is nothing more than to be a traffic policeman insuring each debater sticks to their allotted time to answer the question and to stop talking over.

        The format was a sham, a verbal brawl.

        What would any parliament be like if this chaos was tolerated.

      • David H 1.3.4

        And what’s the betting he (Hosking) got a severe bollocking from TricKey’s political minders after that debacle.

      • Rodel 1.3.5

        My apologies Matthew , much as I am against your politics and methods I think you are right. Hoskings was pretty fair and tried hard to be a proper mediator. For once you make reason.
        Hey your mate Brash was a fiasco all by himself.

  2. Skinny 2

    The debate showed that John Key is over politics. Pretty much a lackluster performance which signals that Key is counting the clock down.

    • BLiP 2.1

      I agree. In fact, I reckon Key has been “over it” for some time. Failfax is reporting that . . .

      . . . Key said Cunliffe’s predecessor Helen Clark was much stronger on policy.

      . . . which is kinda telling. Cunliffe’s predecessor was actually Shearer and Godd before him so, if Key’s comment has been accurately reported, its like he now sees Cunliffe as Prime Minister.

      • Rich 2.1.1

        I like that sort of analysis.

        • weka 2.1.1.1

          +1. Very insightful BLip

        • aerobubble 2.1.1.2

          Key does actually say anything, and hasnt for some time. People look for leadership, want to get an idea of what their leaders think, so they can predict them. Key could just as easily bail beneficiaries out as sell off assets, while raising GST and handing over a huge taxcut windfall to the richest. Key’s did next to nothing except gut the deposit guarantee in light of the GFC, yet another service Australians get that Key feels hurts our economy. Yeah, how does protecting savings of kiwis make it easier for them to take financial risks, well a lot actually, if they had them.

          Key is insufferably bland, useless at anything more than pissing in the wind to shine the next turd blossom his media panel his people come up with.

      • Colonial Viper 2.1.2

        Cunliffe’s predecessor was God(d)…what does that mean! 😈

        • Brendon Harre 2.1.2.1

          D is next to F on the keyboard. Give BLiP a break….

        • BLiP 2.1.2.2

          Heh! I always said I wouldn’t get glasses until I couldn’t do my morning crossword. While I can still manage that, the other day I got lost out Henderson way and couldn’t read the map!! Now I’m making more and more typos. Public shame is the tipping point . . . . . . odd to the optometrist for me this weekenf 😉

          • CnrJoe 2.1.2.2.1

            jon lenin frames?

          • Tracey 2.1.2.2.2

            i have glasses and struggle to see my morning crossword. We didnt watch the debate in the peoples republic of mt eden, did we really miss anything?

            • Rosie 2.1.2.2.2.1

              You missed DC being fabulous! Calm, cool headed and collected whilst simultaneously being strong, policy focused and at the ready with an answer and a counter argument for everything. He really came across as a leader. I wanted to give the man a hug.

              Key looked tired and under duress, like he just couldn’t be bothered any more.

              Mike Hoskings wasn’t as bad as I was expecting.

          • David H 2.1.2.2.3

            I’ll tell you BLiP it will be the best decision you have made for a while. It’s like seeing all over again, and if you get headaches after reading, they will also go away.

  3. millsy 3

    I havent seen the debate, but it is good to know that Cunliffe performed well.

    It is early days, but this should give him a boost of confidence for the next debate.

    • Colonial Viper 3.1

      Key is going to come out firing from minute zero in the next debate. He’s going to try and rattle Cunliffe hard so Cunliffe must be prepared to stay cool and statesman like, saving the fire in the belly for just the right times.

  4. Herodotus 4

    After struggling to watch that…. The 800k non voter turnout from 2011 may now hit 1m.

  5. weka 5

    Interesting to see the NewstalkZB poll change so much in the past hour.

    Now:
    John Key 34 %
    David Cunliffe 32 %
    Neither/It was a tie 34 %
    Unsure 0 %

    Earlier: 71% Cunliffe to 28% Key

    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/election/

    • the pigman 5.1

      It’s gone even more mental than that, 46% now calling it a tie.

      There’s gonna be some carpal tunnel syndrome for whatever fool is sitting there re-voting and refreshing 😀

      • David H 5.1.1

        “There’s gonna be some carpal tunnel syndrome for whatever fool is sitting there re-voting and refreshing 😀 ”

        So that’s what happened to Jason Ede this must be his new important job.

    • Clemgeopin 5.2

      At the end of the day, these manipulated ‘poll results’ ackshully make no difference because people who watched the debate ackshully KNOW for themselves who performed better and who was rattled and is ackshully on the way out at the end of the day on Sept 20.

  6. emergency mike 6

    I’d really like to know whose brilliant idea it was to have a $0.75 per text poll where the results are announced as the debate ends. I.e. most votes cast before the end of the debate. I.e. what bollocks.

    • McFlock 6.1

      funnily enough, I didn’t catch any mention of that poll on the one news coverage at 10:40pm.

      Perhaps between the web crash and maybe time to do a quick breakdown of the cell numbers that txt-voted some issues in the concept showed up 🙂

      • emergency mike 6.1.1

        Indeed. Normally some numbers with an oh-so-snazzy graphic is automatically slapped on at the end.

      • seeker 6.1.2

        Went to vote on tvnz website at 7.25pm it then said Key 60% Cunliffe 40%. I voted for Cunliffe and the figures changed to 61% Key and 39% Cunliffe!! Strange I thought, then Hosking said the site had crashed.
        I rang tvnz and they took my vote over the phone saying something had gone wrong but one could still comment or text but I said that wouldn’t be fair as many could not afford 75c texts or, in my case mobile phones. Just sticking to comments seemed fairer.
        However I noticed that neither of my votes changed the outcome at the end which was the same as the one I noticed at 7.25pm when the site crashed i.e.Key 61% Cunliffe 39% thus I knew they had published an inaccurate/scuppered poll result..Yes, something definitely went wrong with tvnz’s online voting set up tonight. I’m surprised that wowee investigative reporter Andre Vance hadn’t noticed before she wrote her article. (never think of Tracy Watkins as being ‘investigative’.)

        Fotnote-looked at vote online site at 8.30pm and it had shifted back to Key 60% and Cunliffe 40% ! Ghost in the machine?

        Thought there might have been an apology for this mess up on the 10.40pm news.

        • McFlock 6.1.2.1

          several thousand votes in, I wouldn’t expect any variation related to an individual’s vote.
          But a vote so thoroughly at odds with even tory commentators tends to suggest something going on – maybe dirty politics, maybe just a system designed by the folk who did wheedle mark 1 🙂

      • Not a PS Staffer 6.1.3

        39% of texters said they prefer Cunliffe to Key. That is an excellent result for Cunliffe. Given the Labour demographics: the 75c charge; and the certainty that many Nats were texting from every phone within reach; a 4/10 spilt was a significant success.

        Go Cunliffe. This is why we picked you to be the Labour Party Leader. I’ll stand you a pint at the Black Salt.

  7. Leroy 7

    Wow – How good was David Cunliffe? Leader for only 10 months vs. JK 7 years and one of our most popular prime ministers ever. Looks like he wants to be PM – there was fire in his belly!

    One has to wonder what is going on within National? Key did not seem his usual self!

    • Clemgeopin 7.1

      I think ‘Collins’ and the ‘Dirty Politics’ is on his mind.

      • emergency mike 7.1.1

        All the free polls about the debate are favouring Cunliffe. The tide is turning. I’m guessing National’s internal polling means that Key already knows this. This is a governmet that has always been about brand Key. That brand is sinking fast. He has finally insulted the public’s intelligence a bridge too far over Dirty Politics re Collins, Ede, and ‘his office’. He’s got too close to Slater, now the smell just won’t go away. He know’s this job is a goner and is thinking about his next career move.

        Even Sean Plunket is coming around to what Hager’s book is saying about the National party. (Apparently he had a brain surge after accidently watching All The President’s Men.)

      • Kiwiri 7.1.2

        I think ‘Collins’ and the ‘Dirty Politics’ is on his mind.

        And political dirt on his [JK’s] hands.

        • AmaKiwi 7.1.2.1

          The Horizon poll shows how devastating Dirty Politics has been for National. I tried to post the link a few minutes ago but was told it was spam. Curious that I got this link yesterday from The Standard. Here goes again: http://www.horizonpoll.co.nz/attachments/docs/horizon-research-political-conduct-survey-repo.pdf

          [lprent: The site has a problem at present with comments going into auto-spam when they have odd punctuation like :// from a link. I haven’t located what is doing it, and probably won’t until the weekend. At present we’re manually shoving stuff out of the auto-spam folder. ]

    • Blue 7.2

      One has to wonder what is going on within National? Key did not seem his usual self!

      He’s over it. Done his dash as PM and is now dreaming of Hawaii. There’s no other way to explain it. He’s only ever wanted to be PM while it was easy – buoyant opinion polls, adoring media and a worshipful public. The fact that he considered quitting over the teapot tapes shows exactly where his mind must be at right now.

  8. Delia 8

    David Cunliffe was excellent.

    John Key seemed unprepared. He is busy, but so is Cunliffe and Cunliffe was ready for it.

  9. CeeH 10

    plus JK had an Xtra boost with the polls just before the debate – so, fantastic for David to come out on top. All praise to God.

  10. Jesus Wept 11

    Small point here.
    We voted significantly for DC in the Labour primaries. We needed an articulate voice to state the bleedingly obvious. You were humble, you got a bit dissed. Imagine right now how the other dude bless him would have fared. Not too well to state the bleedingly obvious.
    Well done tall guy. You pissed all over him. And you even impressed the hoskingcreep.
    Don’t forget if you get 42-3% in these debate things you’re probably in. You’ve got the Russell and Meretia (and some people you don’t acknowledge yet) cutting down the percentage that this weird horrible inarticulate hologram has left. Keep it up dude.

  11. Redzone 12

    About belief. Well done Cunliffe- took your opportunity tonight and owned key. Perhaps not a game changer but has definitely opened the door for the underdog.

    Weight of the whale on key. He’s checking out and it shows. His confidence has visibly diminished now and the Teflon has gone. He’s psyched out.

    Peter’s well timed Collins comment moments before the debate was incendiary. How the hell does peters mange to pull off hits like that? Can’t stand him but no denying he is the master of timing.

    Keys lesson is he should have fired Collins and didn’t and now he pays the consequence big time. She’s the albatross and It’s messing with him big time and he can’t hide it.

    If key thought the tea tapes were bad then this is 10 times worse.

    • Colonial Viper 12.1

      Winston Peters was mentored by Sir Robert Muldoon. And it shows.

    • Clemgeopin 12.2

      Collins has denied it and called Winston a liar!

      I believe Winston more than I do Collins, but
      I hope Winston has some proof.

      • emergency mike 12.2.1

        “Collins has denied it and called Winston a liar!”

        Well she has to, she’s on her last last warning…

        Winston Peters, quote of the year: “I didn’t put the ‘N’ in the National Party, they did.” I don’t know what it means but I like it.

        • Clemgeopin 12.2.1.1

          N=Nasty? Neo?

        • crocodill 12.2.1.2

          lol just watched that interview. Winston says the National party claim to be Nationalists (the N in National) like him and his, which they don’t and never have done. So when has he ever misled the public..? oooh at about the time he said that I guess, but hey, I didn’t put the W in Winston.

      • weka 12.2.2

        I wouldn’t believe Collins either, and even if Peters is lying, it serves her bloody well right.

        Look at Peters’ facial expression, after he makes the statement about not going out there and telling the country he’d do one thing and then do another, around 9.20. He’s a master at this stuff, far outclassing Key. He’s telling the truth about asset buyback (probably, although there is a caveat in there I’m sure), but when he realises what he has just said (when did I ever mislead the public) he can’t help having a wee Muldoon-esque lopsided smile. I would guess it’s similar with the Collins thing. There is a truth in there, but it’s not a clear, open and honest truth. It’s one that completely supports Peters’ agenda.

        http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/full-interview-winston-peters-on-judith-collins-and-dirty-politics-2014082818

        • Clemgeopin 12.2.2.1

          I hope it is not a lie, because even though not many like Collins any more, lying is not ok.

          Thanks for the link. A brilliant interview. As I said, I still believe Winston over Collins, Key, Slater, Joyce any day!

      • Tracey 12.2.3

        she prolly didnt understand peters comment. Afterall she thought the privacy commissioner had cleared her of releasing a name to slater for bullying, intimidation and death threats.

        • You_Fool 12.2.3.1

          Her denial clearly showed that She didn’t understand Peter’s statement, unless she was getting in some practice for being PM and merging her office, office staff and herself into one mass-conglomerate

      • AmaKiwi 12.2.4

        The more often Collins is mentioned in the news, the more National is damaged. It’s a bit like someone constantly interjecting a reminder that you cheated on your taxes or stole from your employer.

    • kenny 12.3

      Like I’ve said before – Key won’t sack Collins because she knows where the bodies are buried. Through her friendship with Slater she knows just how deep Key is involved in dirty politics and how many lies he has told.

      • TE 12.3.1

        Yes agree with you there Kenny, thats probably why key will just be very laid back, mundane and boring till the fat lady sings.
        Once a liar always a liar, john key’s backside is as burnt as ‘on the last warning’ collins and ‘only I can publicize stolen email’s’ slater,
        Hypocrite’s all of them.

  12. Rich 13

    “The question drew 45,898 responses, with 61% voting John Key as the most impressive and 39% being most impressed by David Cunliffe.”

    Anybody want to go to the National Party’s ledger and see if they can find 21k election spending for tonight?

    🙂

  13. Jrobin 14

    Key can’t wait to get back to insider trading and hobnobbing it with Jamie Dimon. He is trying to lose now, just watch the rats leaping as the ship tilts and shudders. Why oh why would anyone think Winston would creep into a coalition with Ms Injustice? David was superb, take that Herald Digipoll, presumably they polled Remuera and Central Otago only.

  14. Brian 15

    Assured, collected, in command.
    DC was a good choice.

  15. blue leopard 16

    TV3 did cover the debate. It was on ‘The Paul Henry Show’ Tova O Brian was on giving a run-down of the events. …Oh hell, I have forgotten what she said – from memory it was positive for Cunliffe. You’ll just have to go and watch it online if you want to know more: http://www.3news.co.nz/TVShows/PaulHenryShow

    I have to say Paul Henry, despite being a self-confessed right wing bigot (or words to that effect), does some pretty good political interviews.

    • bad politics 16.1

      Yes, Paul Henry does. One thing about last nights debate, is Mike Hosking was way out of his depth, Alison Mau & Sean Plunkett were having a bit of a laugh about it, especially the weird ‘date night’ question.

      Cunliffe was bloody good.

      • Rodel 16.1.1

        Nah. Mike Hoskings ( and I’m not a fan of his) did quite well.
        I liked the way he stopped Key in his tracks, at first saying something like, ” This isn’t a party political broadcast. Can you please just answer the question?’

        It was a fairly well run debate and Hoskings didn’t insert his Ferrari driven Tory bias.Well done Mike…

        PS I’m glad Cunliffe dominated. God I so hope he’s our next PM. ( and I’m not even religious).
        Stay positive folks!

  16. NZJester 17

    Looks like the NZ Herald “Buzzdial” thing gave the debate to Cunliffe.

    The right will make a lot about the text poll giving the debate to John Key by talking it up, while they are downplaying all the ones that show David Cunliffe the clear winner.
    Your line of “among people who can afford to waste 75c on a text” says a lot about the very heavy bias that poll should have had for National. In my mind the fact David still reached 39% on that poll says a lot about Nationals current appeal to those more well healed. The crack in John Keys nice guy mask has cracked even further and Cameron Slater’s face peeking out from inside is scaring the right wing voters away from National. I just wish a lot less of them would be switching to Act or the Conservitives and vote Labour for a real positive change.

  17. Brian 18

    Boxing analogy – no knockout but Key stunned by a good straight left!

    • Inky 18.1

      He was groggy, on the ropes and at times defenceless. But he did have the referee in his corner.

      • Paul 18.1.1

        Not just in his corner.
        Throwing the odd punch as well.

        • Rich 18.1.1.1

          Well he threw the odd punch at Key as well, especially when Key did one of his ‘you’re dismissed’ arm wavements and sneer, that resulted in a ‘no, no, no you’re not doing that’ from Hosking who you could see and hear was pretty angry with Key at the time. I just wonder if the media hacks forced to write pro-national junk will, if pushed, turn on their masters, or whether if they are actually National that they have had enough of Key leading that party. After watching the visceral hate for Key last night in Parliament when the guy tried to jump from the balconey which resulted in an attempt to blame Labour for it and a throat cutting gesture from Key I’m surprised that Key has lasted this long, as he’s an absolute turd, or more appropriately as he was called at the time by more than one parliamentarian – ‘a scumbag’.

      • Kevin 18.1.2

        I can’t stand Hosking, but I thought he was fair to both of them.

        • Tracey 18.1.2.1

          i suspect that means the campaign to removed him worked. IF he hadcany intention to favour key, he didnt. I didnt see it so just going by folkscomments here.

          I note that claire trevitts article asked peters dunne and craig what they thought of cunliffes performance but asked no one from greens, imp, etc what they thought of key. Balance?

          • Kiwiri 18.1.2.1.1

            I’ve just been shown the UF’s campaign broadcast. Very puzzling.
            Did the GCSB infiltrate the production and rubbish it?

    • Te Reo Putake 18.2

      Funnily enough, after the debate I switched over to the Ali/Holmes doco on Maori TV. It was the story of a populist winner who took on one fight too many and lost badly to his younger, fresher opponent. Karmic coincidence?

  18. Inky 19

    When David Cunliffe got the Labour job, a friend told me he’d debate the a$$ off Key. That he did. In fact Key’s probably still trying to find his a$$ now.

    An outstanding effort, Mr Cunliffe. More please.

  19. vince warner 20

    Is there a VOD or rebroadcast available of the debate, i tried looking on tvnz and youtube but no luck.

  20. NZJester 21

    If any of you missed the debate it is up online at TVNZ
    http://tvnz.co.nz/one-news/s2014-ep1-video-6066764

    I don’t know if it just my browser but the timing of the ads inserted in at the breaks on these TVNZ on demand videos is annoying. Part of the welcome back from the break speech starts to play before the actual ad finally kicks in late cutting him of mid sentence till after the ads have completed.

  21. dv 22

    I didn’t hear ANY policy from Key (Except the possibility of some cash for first home buyers.)

    NOTHING to support Keys claim we are on the cusp of something great.

    Oh he may be thinking that lab are going to win AND that will be great!!!!

    I heard a lot of Key criticising lab polices.

    BUT he can because Lab has policies.

  22. ScottGN 23

    Herald readers are running about 3 to 1 in favour of Cunliffe.

  23. Tracey 24

    Audrey young gave it to John Key?!? Of course she IS his herald campaign manager.

    Did i read people could vote before thedebate began, surely not? And before it end?

    Baby Cheeses!

    • ghostwhowalksnz 24.1

      Father was National MP, brother is a national MP. Audrey is what they say ‘family’

  24. dave 25

    Key looked flat as if didn’t want to be there the only zip and am was from cunliffe
    And far more serious note hoskins was a fashion disaster of Clarkson like proportions for a media fashion icon like hoskin you really have to wonder if his status needs a review . Any thoughts .

  25. ScottGN 26

    Surprise, surprise former Shipley staffer Claire Robinson calls it a draw in RadioNZ and then goes on to admit that, yes, Cunliffe did actually do better in almost all aspects of the debate.

  26. Pete 27

    Glad to hear Rob Salmond was in Cunliffe’s corner and was advising him during the ad breaks. DC has a good team behind him.

    On Morning Report, Claire Robinson said it was a draw. Which if you convert that into normal-person speak, is a resounding win for Cunliffe.

  27. philj 28

    xox
    Hoskin did a reasonable job of the interview,considering he is biased against Labour. I even heard him criticize Nats housing policy in a question to Key! And with Plonker Plunket having an epiphany after watching “All the Presidents Men”! There is none so blind as them in our MSM.

    Sing along, ( with a smile )

    ” Come on, Honest John,
    Throw in the towel,
    ( And ) move Right along “

  28. philj 29

    xox
    Claire Robinson is another wannabe right wing ‘influencer’ …. like Julie Christie?
    Enema time!

    • ghostwhowalksnz 29.1

      Julie thinks it all so ‘unfair’ After all Key has 65% popularity, and why bother with an election at all.

      The scary part is this moron is an influential director of TV3.

  29. heather tanguay 30

    John Key looked as if he wanted to leave, he looked uncomfortable and rattled, he had no edge at all. David Cunliff was on fire, he is waiting in the wings with great policies, ready to go. His performance, as almost all the media say was the best – come on Audrey catch up!

  30. TheContrarian 31

    I’d go 50/50 for that – a draw.

    Winner takes all next round.

  31. Jenny Kirk 32

    To Seeker @ 6.1.2

    You might think about putting in a complaint to the Broadcasting Standards Authority. You can go direct to them if its an election complaint – without having to go thru the broadcaster and waiting two weeks for a reply. Here’s the link

    http://bsa.govt.nz/complaints/election-programme-complaint

    [lprent: There is a problem with punctuation like the :// falling into autospam. Looks like I won’t be able to track it down and fix until tomorrow. In the meantime we’re just pulling messages out of spam. ]

  32. Jenny Kirk 33

    at Seeker 6.1.2 Have you tried putting in a complaint direct to the Broadcasting Standards Authority re TVNZ poll breakdown last night ? You can go direct to BSA without having to go thru the broadcaster because it would be an election complaint. I won’t put the link up because I’m having difficulty getting this message through – but just google BSA and go to complaints page and follow thru to the election complaints page.

    • Anne 33.1

      To make a formal complaint to TVNZ:

      http://tvnz.co.nz/content/823787

      I’ve just submitted a complaint and the more people who do so the better!!

      Note: You must first complain to the offending broadcaster/TV outlet, and then if their response is unsatisfactory you can refer the matter to the BSA.

      Always worth doing because it forces the broadcaster to toe the line regardless of the outcome.

  33. vto 34

    But how can this be anything other than Key being a “winner”. That is what he is, isn’t he? He is a winner – he has gone overseas and traded money and come back and bought a house at Omaha and has millions. He is a winner. He takes no prisoners. He epitomises all that is right and good with the neoliberal me-me-me generation. It is all about the self and Key is it. So how can Key be anything but a “winner”. What a winner.

    And how can Cunliffe be anything other than a loser? That is what the tv ad shows isn’t it? That’s they way in which people like Collins talk about people like Cunliffe … “what a loser”. He is not even in business ffs. Why isn’t Cunliffe milking his political business opportunities? What a loser. Wasting his time with losers in south Auckland and other “feral” places.

    winners and losers

    the choice is as clear as a bell

    unfortunately for key the tide is well on the ebb now and those previous ‘winners’ are no longer

    • Murray Olsen 34.1

      You’re 100% correct about the way people like Collins talk about people like Cunliffe, and it goes further than that. My PhD supervisor was Dan Walls, sometimes said to be the greatest Kiwi scientist since Rutherford. If he’d lived a few more years he very probably would have gained a Nobel Prize. At his funeral there were some businessmen from his church in Mission Bay/St. Heliers. They were saying what a waste it was that he’d used his brain for something other than business.

      The moneychangers need throwing out of a lot more than just the temple.

  34. Sable 35

    I never watched as I have no time for National or Labour, its MMP not a two horse FPP system anymore. I do remember the debate between John Kerry and Bush jnr for the US presidency. Kerry wiped the floor with Bush but Bush still won. So whilst this may be nice for Labour supporters I may not be that significant.

    What is important for Labourites is Labour getting its message out there which I do not believe they are doing well at all. Their bill boarding in particular this election has been woeful thus far when compared to National and the Greens….

    • Kiwiri 35.1

      Not that many Labour billboards. Lots of National and Greens. And nicely and clearly standing out are Internet-MANA.

    • aerobubble 35.2

      I sometimes wonder whether Labour might actually worry it will win, when the housing market is so close to collapse. The farm debt is high, all China needs is to throttle back a bit on milk (or the Eu start pumping it as I hear they are about to), and NZ housing prices start wobbling. I mean its a poisoned chalice, would explain why Key has such a hard time saying anything substantive as nothing to say. All style no substance.

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 hours ago
  • Climate Change: We need to end fossil fuels
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 hours ago
  • As bad as we expected
    Stuff has begun interviewing NZ First's secret donors, and it turns out that its as bad as we expected. They start with racing industry figure Garry Chittick, who is predictably grumpy about NZ First's coalition choices. Meanwhile, I'm looking at the list of pork NZ First has effectively given its ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 hours ago
  • The Second (And Final?) Crucifixion Of Winston Peters.
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    13 hours ago
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    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
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  • Softy Jejune Parson – the new Mother Superior of Wellington
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    RedlineBy Admin
    22 hours ago
  • Atlantic shakeup: US and UK leadership contenders ripping up the usual scripts?
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    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    24 hours ago
  • Winston is the PM’s problem
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Australia’s secret prisoner
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Bridges should put his money where his mouth is
    Stuff has more details on what New Zealand First's slush-fund has been funding, with much of the spending directly benefiting the party. Which makes it look a lot like hidden donations, rather than the completely-innocent-giant-pile-of-cash Winston is trying to portray it as. The Electoral Commission is now investigating, but Simon ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • The APEC police state enabling bill
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Why coastal floods are becoming more frequent as seas rise
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 day ago
  • The cost of a range clearance.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 day ago
  • Still denying responsibility
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • A corrupt practice
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Democracy “A Bit Bonkers” – Thoughts Inspired By Lizzie Marvelly’s Latest Co...
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    2 days ago
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    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • On the road to Net Zero, the next step is to update our UN pledge
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    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    3 days ago
  • Corruption as usual
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Fairer rentals
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Another NZDF coverup
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • A loss for the Greens
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • New era for Ngāti Kuri and Auckland Museum
    Words and images by Jacqui Gibson Gone are Auckland Museum’s days of doing science using a museum-centric academic approach, after Māori land rights holders Ngāti Kuri gave the museum an ultimatum.
    Tom Trnski holding a fossilised whale tooth from the Far North.Aussie-born Head of Natural Sciences at Auckland Museum ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    3 days ago
  • Circling vultures: Why MediaWorks TV is really in trouble
    MediaWorks announced in October 2019 that it intended to sell off its struggling television business and cancel or cut back on several popular local programmes, including New Zealand Today, Married at First Sight New Zealand and 7 Days. Its radio and outdoor advertising arms are currently performing well, but MediaWorks’ ...
    Briefing PapersBy Peter Thompson
    4 days ago
  • Scary Opinium Poll
    Westminster voting intention:CON: 44% (+3)LAB: 28% (-1)LDEM: 14% (-1)BREX: 6% (-)via @OpiniumResearch, surveyed this weekChgs. w/ 08 Nov— Britain Elects (@britainelects) 16 November 2019 This, of course, doesn't look good.  Labour have been chucking big, headline grabbing policies left, right and centre ... Well, maybe not right.  Left, left ...
    4 days ago
  • A coward’s ploy.
    Some readers may remember that I mentioned last year that I was applying for NZ citizenship. I filled out the paperwork and had my original citizenship interview in February. Everything went well until they discovered that, because I had spent five months in the US in 2017, I had not ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    4 days ago
  • Left censorship and exclusion against gender-critical women: a Marxist critique
    by Deirdre O’Neill It is becoming quite acceptable for certain sections of the left to declare that people like me – women who are ‘gender critical’ – should not be allowed in leftist or anarchist spaces. Leaving aside the arrogance and implicit authoritarianism of this claim, its lack of critical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • “Uncertainty” can be better solved with a better grasp of life’s inherent complexities…
    There is an article in The Conversation, written by Jeremy P. Shapiro (Adjunct Assistant Professor of Psychological Sciences, Case Western Reserve University), about what he sees as the psychologically-based underpinnings of three main matters that seem to vex people all around the planet. The article is titled “The Thinking ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    5 days ago
  • Citizens vs the Rogue Deep State
    . .   Blogger Martyn Bradbury has won his case against unreasonable search and surveillance against the NZ Police; and subsequent Police attempts to produce evidence in secrecy, in a closed Court. His case highlights a disturbing growing trend in Aotearoa New Zealand for State power to be used against ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Massey University’s free speech policy double-plus-good
    The Committee of Disobedient Women has intercepted an email from Dr Emma Eejut, Senior Lecturer in Sociology, Massey University to the university’s Vice-Chancellor, Jan Thomas. Dear Jan, Thank you for your courageous move.  I think 10 pages of blether** should tie any of the students game enough to try holding ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Unacceptable
    That's the only response to the findings of the Ombudsman's investigation into LGOIMA practices at the Christchurch City Council:My investigation identified serious concerns about the Council’s leadership and culture, and its commitment to openness and transparency. In particular, Council staff raised concerns with me about various methods employed by some ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • There is what corruption looks like
    NZ First seems to be nakedly trying to enrich itself from public office:A powerful New Zealand First figure helped establish a forestry company that then pushed for money from two key funding streams controlled by a New Zealand First Minister. An RNZ investigation has found Brian Henry, lawyer for Winston ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Escape from Manus Island
    Behrouz Boochani is an award winning author and journalist. He is also a refugee, who for the past six years has been detained in Australia's offshore gulag on Manus Island, and in Papua New Guinea. But last night, with the cooperation of the WORD Christchurch festival and Amnesty International, he ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • When World’s Collide.
    Different Strokes: If a multicultural immigration policy imposes no obligation on immigrant communities to acknowledge and ultimately embrace their host nation’s most cherished traditions and values, then how is that nation to prevent itself from being reduced to a collection of inward-looking and self-replicating ethnic and cultural enclaves?THE COALITION GOVERNMENT’S ...
    6 days ago
  • Could There Be Method In Massey University’s Madness?
    Protective Zone: Reading the rules and guidelines released by Massey University, it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that its governing body considers the whole concept of free speech a disruptive threat to the orderly imparting of orthodox academic knowledge.IN TRUE ORWELLIAN fashion, Massey University has announced its commitment to ...
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: We need more trees, not less
    Farmers held a hate-march on Parliament today, complete with MAGA hats, gun-nut signs, and gendered insults. While supposedly about a grab-bag of issues - including, weirdly, mental health - it was clear that the protest was about one thing, and one thing only: climate change. And specifically, forestry "destroying" rural ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The IGIS annual report: Dead letters and secret law
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security released their annual report today, and I've been busy reading through it. In amongst the usual review of what they've been doing all year, there's a few interesting bits. For example, a discussion on "agency retention and disposal of information", which points out that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A referendum on bigotry
    The End of Life Choice Bill passed its third reading last night, 69 - 51. Thanks to a compromise with NZ First - which looks to have been necessary on the final numbers - the commencement of the bill will be subject to a referendum. Given the ugliness of the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why municipal waste-to-energy incineration is not the answer to NZ’s plastic waste crisis
    Trisia Farrelly, Massey University New Zealand is ranked the third-most-wasteful country in the OECD. New Zealanders produce five times the global daily average of waste per person – and they are getting more wasteful, producing 35% more than a decade ago. These statistics are likely to get worse following China’s ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Political parties and GMOs: we all need to move on
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    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    1 week ago
  • Class, Identity Politics and Transgender Ideology
    by Deirdre O’Neill Under Thatcher and then Blair and continuing up until our contemporary moment, the working class has seen its culture slowly and progressively destroyed. The change from an industrial society to a service society produced a marked shift in focus from the working class as the backbone of ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Irony
    Since 2013, the Australian government has detained refugees without trial in Pacific gulags, where they are abused, tortured, and driven to suicide. The policy is not just an abuse of human rights and possible crime against humanity; it has also had a corrosive effect on the states Australia uses as ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An age of protest.
    It seems fair to say that we currently live in a problematic political moment in world history. Democracies are in decline and dictatorships are on the rise. Primordial, sectarian and post-modern divisions have re-emerged, are on the rise or have been accentuated by political evolutions of the moment such as ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Another captured agency
    Last month, Greenpeace head Russel Norman surrendered his speaking slot at an EPA conference to student climate activist Sorcha Carr, who told the EPA exactly what she thought of them. It was a bold move, which confronted both regulators and polluters (or, as the EPA calls them, "stakeholders") with the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • NZ First’s dodgy loans
    The core principle supposedly underlying New Zealand's electoral finance regime is transparency: parties can accept large donations from rich people wanting to buy policy, but only if they tell the public they've been bought. Most parties abide by this, so we know that TOP was wholly-owned by Gareth Morgan, and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: The choice on End of Life Choice
    Today is a Member's Day, probably the second-to-last one of the year, and its a big one, with the Third Reading of David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill. last Member's Day it was reported back from committee, after MPs voted narrowly to make it subject to a (rules TBA) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • How growth in population and consumption drives planetary change
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • The disappearing Women …
    by The Council of Disobedient Women In her excellent oral submission to the Abortion reform select committee on 31st October on behalf of Otago University’s Department of Public Health, historian and public health researcher Hera Cook stated: “We would ask that the committee not use the term ‘pregnant persons’ and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • “A Passage to India”: enduring art in changing times
    by Don Franks In 1957, E M Forster wrote, of his greatest work: “The India described in ‘A Passage to India’ no longer exists either politically or socially. Change had begun even at the time the book was published ( 1924) and during the following quarter of a century it ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Contemptuous
    The Referendums Framework Bill was due back from select committee today. But there's no report on it. Instead, the bill has been bounced back to the House under Standing order 29593) because the Committee didn't bother to produce one. They probably tried. But given the membership of the committee (which ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Zero Carbon: It’s not just a good idea, it’s the law
    Two years into New Zealand’s Labour-led government, the long-delayed Zero Carbon Bill became law on 7 November. Passed essentially unanimously, the lengthy public debates and political manoeuvring faded away until the final passage was even anticlimactic: Flipping through the @nzstuff @DomPost I was starting to wonder if I’d dreamt ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: What happens next?
    Now the Zero Carbon Bill is law, what's next? Obviously, the ETS changes currently before select committee are going to be the next battleground. But we're also going to get a good idea of where we're going, and if the progress the Zero Carbon Act promises is good enough, during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate change will fuel bush fires
    Grant Pearce The effects of the current Australian bushfires in New South Wales and Queensland (and also again in California) are devastating and far-reaching. To date, the fires have resulted in several lives being lost and many homes and properties destroyed. Here in New Zealand, the impacts have been only ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Participation rates
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    SciBlogsBy Michael Reddell
    1 week ago
  • Not So Much “OK Boomer” As “OK Ruling Class”.
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    1 week ago
  • Asking for it …
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    1 week ago
  • New Zealand’s Poor Pandemic Preparedness According to the Global Health Security Index
    Dr Matt Boyd, Prof Michael Baker, Prof Nick Wilson The Global Health Security Index which considers pandemic threats has just been published. Unfortunately, NZ scores approximately half marks (54/100), coming in 35th in the world rankings – far behind Australia. This poor result suggests that the NZ Government needs to ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Thank Winston
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Illicit markets and Bali Booze
    The Herald reprints an Australian story on a couple of tragic deaths in Bali from drinking cocktails that had methanol in them.  The story argues that methanol is likely the result of home distillation. But what the young tourists were experiencing was far from a hangover. They’d consumed a toxic cocktail ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    1 week ago
  • This is not what armed police are for
    Last month, the police announced a trial of specialist roaming armed units, which would drive round (poor, brown) areas in armoured SUVs, armed to the teeth. When they announced the trial, they told us it was about having armed police "ready to attend major incidents at any time if needed". ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Spain’s failed electoral gamble
    Spain went to the polls today in the second elections this year, after the Socialists (who had come to power in a confidence vote, then gone to the polls in April) rejected the offer of a coalition with the left-wing PoDemos, and instead decided to gamble n a better outcome ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The astroturf party
    National has finally rolled out its "BlueGreen" astroturf party, fronted by an array of former nats and people who were dumped by the Greens for not being Green enough. Its initial pitch is described by Stuff as "very business-friendly", and its priorities are what you'd expect: conservation, predator-free funding, a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • How to cheat at university
    A couple of days ago I attended (and spoke at) the University of Waikato’s “LearnFest” event. There were lots of talks and sessions on very diverse aspects of teaching, mostly at tertiary level. One was by Myra Williamson from Te Piringa Faculty of Law here at Waikato, on Contract Cheating ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    1 week ago
  • How NZ was put on world maps using a transit of Mercury
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    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    2 weeks ago
  • Georgina Beyer: We need to be able to talk without being offended
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The anti-fluoride brigade won’t be erecting billboards about this study
    If FFNZ really put their faith in “Top Medical Journals” they would now be amending their billboards to recognise new research results. Image from FFNZ but updated to agree with the latest research. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Chosen To Rule? What Sort Of Christian Is Chris Luxon?
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    2 weeks ago
  • War of the worms
    I'm going to make a Reckless Prediction™ that the Tories have 'topped out' in the 'poll of polls' / Britain Elects multipoll tracker at about 38%, and in the next week we will start to see Labour creep up on them.In fact, we might just be seeing the start of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Marvelly shows us how to be a feminist without feminism
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Out of the past – Tories to revive racist laws from the 16th century
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    2 weeks ago
  • 1000 of these now
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    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Shane Jones Just Saved NZ First?
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    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: As predicted
    Yesterday, when National voted for the Zero Carbon Bill, I predicted they'd gut it the moment they regained power, just as they had done to the ETS. And indeed, they have explicitly promised to do exactly that within their first hundred days in office. What would their amendments do? Abandon ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Let this never be forgot
    In the spirit of Remember, remember the fifth of November, let's keep this in mind FOREVER.
    Oh dear. Extraordinary interview on PM with Andrew Bridgen and @EvanHD just now. Bridgen was defending Jacob Rees Mogg’s Grenfell comments. Evan asked him if JRM had meant to say he would have left ...
    2 weeks ago

  • New high tech traps will reduce the need for 1080 poison
    New Zealand First are celebrating the announcement of an investment of $3.5 million into five new trapping devices. These are a range of bait and trap devices, all designed to be left unattended for long periods of time. NZ First conservation spokesperson Jenny Marcroft says that this latest development will ...
    7 hours ago
  • Cowboy clampers will be stymied
    Clayton Mitchell, Spokesperson for Consumer Affairs The ‘wheel clamping’ Bill that will cap clamper fees to $100 passed its third reading in Parliament today. New Zealand First welcomes The Land Transport (Wheel Clamping) Amendment Bill to combat predatory wheel clamping behaviour in what is currently a largely unregulated business. Cowboy clampers are: gouging ...
    1 day ago
  • Mental Health Commission back on track
    Jenny Marcroft, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First welcomes the passage of the Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill through its first reading in Parliament. “Today’s progress takes serious action on the mental health and addiction crisis the country is facing,” says New Zealand First Health Spokesperson Jenny Marcroft. “The re-establishment ...
    1 day ago
  • New Zealand’s key assets are not for sale: national interest test delivered
    Mark Patterson, Spokesperson for Primary Industries Today the Government announced the delivery of the promise to protect New Zealand interests by applying a new National Interest Test to the sales of our most sensitive and high risk assets to overseas buyers. This further strengthening of the Overseas Investment Act will ...
    2 days ago
  • National interest test added to protect New Zealanders’ interests
    The Coalition Government is delivering on its promise to protect New Zealanders’ interests by applying a new national interest test to the sales of our most sensitive and high-risk assets to overseas buyers. Under current Overseas Investment Act (OIA) rules, assets such as ports and airports, telecommunications infrastructure, electricity and ...
    2 days ago
  • Electoral law breach allegations
    Rt Winston Peters, Leader of New Zealand First Allegations raised this morning by Stuff Limited / Fairfax concern a party matter but I am confident that New Zealand First has operated within electoral laws, now and for the last 27 years. Declarable donations were declared to the Electoral Commission. Our ...
    2 days ago
  • Wayne Brown hits back at critics: Ports of Auckland has to move
    The chairman of the Upper North Island Supply Chain Strategy (UNISCS) working group, Wayne Brown, has hit back at critics of his group’s recommendations to relocate the Ports of Auckland cargo operations to Whangarei’s deepwater port of Northport. The working group's recommendation to close Auckland waterfront to all but cruise ...
    3 days ago
  • Week That Was: Supporting our schools
    We're setting our young people up for success, investing in education around the country.  ...
    3 days ago
  • Kiwis to have their say on End of Life Choice
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First backs the public to decide on the End of Life Choice Bill via a referendum at the 2020 General Election. The Bill, with New Zealand First’s referendum provision incorporated, passed its final reading in Parliament this evening. New Zealand First Spokesperson for ...
    1 week ago
  • Addressing miscarriages of justice
    Darroch Ball, Spokesperson for Justice New Zealand First is proud that a key Coalition Agreement commitment which will provide for a more transparent and effective criminal justice system has been realised. Legislation to establish the Criminal Cases Review Commission, an independent body focused on identifying and responding to possible miscarriages of ...
    1 week ago
  • Week That Was: Historic action on climate change
    "Today we have made a choice that will leave a legacy... I hope that means that future generations will see that we, in New Zealand, were on the right side of history." - Jacinda Ardern, Third Reading of the Zero Carbon Bill ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Tax-free deployments for Kiwi troops
    Darroch Ball, New Zealand First List MP A Member’s bill has been proposed that would provide income tax exemptions for all New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel while on operational deployment overseas. The Income Tax (Exemption for Salary or Wages of NZDF Members on Active Deployment) Amendment Bill proposed by New Zealand First ...
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