Arses and Elbows

Written By: - Date published: 1:21 pm, June 19th, 2014 - 123 comments
Categories: bill english, john key, national/act government, same old national - Tags: , ,

So, the Deputy Prime Minister insists that no-one from the ruling National Party knew of an eleven year old letter from Labour’s David Cunliffe asking Immigration about time frames for decision making.

Meanwhile, the Prime Minister states he knew of the letter for some weeks.

Scandalously, some ministers from the ruling National Party have sought to use their positions to overtly influence immigration matters.

Meanwhile, David Cunliffe forgot he had ever signed a letter eleven years ago that simply asked Immigration about time frames for decision making.

In keeping with not knowing your arse from your elbow, the National Party and their cheerleaders confuse and equate all of the above in an accidental, and probably successful, attempt to cover themselves in shit.

Trust the National Party, peeps. They really know what they are doing.

123 comments on “Arses and Elbows”

  1. Gosman 1

    Bill English did not insist noone in National knew about the letter. He stated he wasn’t aware of anyone who knew about it.

    • freedom 1.1

      English was not aware of what the PM said only a couple of hours earlier on the same station….??
      Tui time for Gosman

      • Gosman 1.1.1

        So the alternative is he was well aware of what the PM stated and knowingly stated that he wasn’t even though it was obvious that he did. What would have been his reason for making a statement he knew could be shown to be inaccurate so easily?

        • Te Reo Putake 1.1.1.1

          He’s a tory? Seriously, Gosman, do you really believe that Key had some interesting dirt on Cunliffe and didn’t mention that to English? While simultaneously expecting English to lead the charge on said dirt in his absence?

        • mickysavage 1.1.1.2

          Hey Gossie

          Woodhouse has confirmed he had the letter on May 9 and then briefed the PM’s office on this. Do you really think that Blinglish did not know about it?

          Don’t you get the feeling the media has been manipulated?

          • the card 1.1.1.2.1

            So the question becomes who forwarded the OIA in April ?

          • Gosman 1.1.1.2.2

            Then that should be the Labour party’s counter attack line on this topic. Hammer Bill English for the blatant lie he told the media. Do you think that is the approach that Labour will take?

            • Anthony Bull 1.1.1.2.2.1

              That is the worst thing they can do – it would make them look even more incompetent than they have already managed.

              The term ‘flogging a dead horse’ comes to mind.

            • framu 1.1.1.2.2.2

              “Do you think that is the approach that Labour will take?”

              do you think we havent seen you shift the goalposts like this a million times before?

          • Tracey 1.1.1.2.3

            Come now mickey. Its obvious isnt it. This shows key doesnt trust his deputy. After judith collins he trusts no one who doesnt owe their existence to him. Thats why so many are gone from this govt under his watch. He has a private control siege mentality and a publuc smile.

            The smiling assassin. No proof needed cos thia all obviously adds up to crisis in nats cos their internal polling shoes more want a change of govt than will vote for nation.

            I expect to see this in the headlines tomorrow…

            Pm keeps depury in dark

            Pm lost trust in cabinet

          • Mike the Savage One 1.1.1.2.4

            Radio New Zealand’s Checkpoint just reported that Woodhouse got the letter with other info on Liu separately from the PM’s Office. They clearly reported that Woodhouse said, that the PM’s staff obtained the copy of David Cunliffe’s letter earlier and independently!

            So this creates new questions needing answers, I suppose.

            • Mike the Savage One 1.1.1.2.4.1

              Correction, TV3 reported, that Woodhouse got documents on Liu, including Cunliffe’s letter, about 2 weeks ago, and the PM’s Office got documents apparently 3 weeks ago, and Radio NZ may well have reported the same.

  2. Once was Tim 2

    And if EVER there was evidence of the National Party not knowing its A from its E, it’d have to be Mr S Joyce’s brainwave in which he’s cobbled together conflicting functionality in government administration, and come up with a bugger’s muddle called MoBIE.
    Not even its own staff think it was a grand idea. I even had to feel sorry for its CEO and certain members of its management I just had dealings with.
    It’s a bit like a forced marriage of ARSES and ELBOWS

  3. Tiger Mountain 3

    Quantum politics–the Liu letter existing simultaneously in both Key and Blinglish scenarios?

  4. Mike the Savage One 4

    Is this what came to the surface yesterday perhaps simply nothing else by the result of some “papers” dropping out of John Key’s now infamous “top drawer”? Following past developments Key and his staff will have made sure they got all kinds of OIA accessible documents – and possibly others obtained in more “dubious” ways, to prepare for election 2014. They make sure that stuff implicating themselves is kept secret, but feed other material to media and right wing bloggers.

    It is indeed a strange coincidence, that such a letter signed by David Cunliffe from 11 years ago suddenly gets attention, and while they say it was as a result of the Herald’s OIA, perhaps a little “hint” was given to some APN Herald staff?

    NO wonder Key has shown himself to be so over confident as of recent, despite of Banks having to resign.

    Yes, I fear there will be more to come, and this election campaign will be the dirtiest this country has ever seen, make no doubt about it.

    Despite of all, Labour should have prepared better for such tactics to be used, and also should have prepared a better media strategy.

    • Kevin Welsh 4.1

      How could they have been better prepared when “Cunliffe said his staff had been unable to find the letter, which was sent in 2003. Manual records were usually not kept for more than three years for privacy reasons. An electronic search had not found anything either.” (Stuff: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10178013/Labour-top-backs-David-Cunliffe)

      • Gosman 4.1.1

        Put in an OIA request to get the same data that the a ministry actually found.

      • Mike the Savage One 4.1.2

        Well, it always pays to keep certain backup files of sensitive correspondence, even beyond certain “usual” time frames. I am not sure what the Privacy Act allows, but I do not think that it is strictly forbidden to keep copies of such letters for longer, as one can argue, they may need to be kept for possible future reference, should legal or other questions arise.

        What I mean with “better prepared” is, to have a better media strategy, to be more on guard for surprise attacks, and to have a plan to follow, rather than be caught out and surprised.

        The letter was obtained by OIA from Immigration New Zealand, and Cunliffe did not go to Immigration NZ to check records, he had his staff look through old computer files, and some hard copy files. As certain old hard files had already been destroyed, nothing could be found, and apparently one copy was only kept in one staff member’s separate files, not accessed and found.

        If I was Cunliffe, I would have, before hammering at National and the government re Liu, and questions about donations and so forth, gone and sought info per OIA or Privacy Act request on correspondence with the man, from Immigration NZ. It does not sound and look very professional to sling around, and attack Williamson, Key and Collins, while having assisted migrants from a wealthy background himself, and simply “forgotten” about it. It was just a formal request to Immigration in that letter, but it is still considered as a low level form of advocacy.

        • lprent 4.1.2.1

          Both OIA and Privacy requests usually take a while. Typically about 30 days minimum.

          That Jared Savage got his hands on them in 2 days is to say the least unusual. That David Cunliffe had 30 minutes warning before the file was sent was even more surprising. Usually permission would have to be sought from participants?

          Exactly how corrupt is Woodhouse or the immigration department?

          • NZ Femme 4.1.2.1.1

            lprent, apparently Jared Savage sent his initial OIA request on May 8th. It was denied on June 16th, and he immediately refined his request, and resent it the same day. In those circumstances, is it still unusual to have a 2 day turn-around?

            According to Tim Murphy’s (Herald Editor) tweet, Woodhouse received the letter on May 9th – one day after Savage’s initial OIA request.

            • lprent 4.1.2.1.1.1

              That I don’t know. The first delay was pretty typical and short. I will ask Idiot/Savant because it does seem short.

              It’d be interesting OIA’ing the response back to Savage to find out if it contained instructions (implied or direct) about what to ask for.

          • Mike the Savage One 4.1.2.1.2

            Yes, they take about 20 working days, which can be roughly 4 weeks or a month, that is “usually”. As I have done the odd one, they can take much longer though, often months, depending on what was asked.

            I presume that the media do at times get a bit of preferential treatment, but even they often have to wait and do not always get what they ask for.

            The circumstances in this case are very unusual indeed.

            Woodhouse cannot be trusted, the look on his face tells me, he is a man with agendas and secrets.

  5. Macro 5

    Well it has to be what double Dipton says. I mean how could it not be. This is an honest man. A man who is above feathering his own nest at the expense of tax-payers. A man who would never stoop to lining the pockets of SCF “investors”, or distorting the facts, or misusing statistics for his own political advantage, or thinking of the voting public as “punters”. He is above all that. The PM however, well we know how shonkey he is! So obviously he has had another brain fade and forgot that he really only got the letter yesterday.

  6. Te Reo Putake 6

    Gotta love Bill English!

    Yesterday: Nobody in National knew.
    This morning: The PM knew.
    This arvo: The Minister knew.

    Can’t wait for tomorrow.

    • Kiwiri 6.1

      And Doctor Paul Hutchison took a look at Double Dipton’s elbow:

      • Rob 6.1.1

        And yet TRP if only David Cunnliffe knew, none of this would have happened.

        • framu 6.1.1.1

          no – a completely different set of innuendo and rumor would have eminated from the PMs office

  7. Craig Glen Eden 7

    John Key say’s he had the letter some weeks ago, English say’s he isnt aware of anyone in National having the letter till this week. HMMm so Key obviously does not trust English or the rest of his Party. Is this the start of Key’s dictatorship and has Key gone rogue?

  8. grumpy 8

    Seems like the only guy who didn’t know about the letter was the one who wrote it.

    • Craig Glen Eden 8.1

      So who knew a letter existed.? Who gave Woodhouse a copy of the letter weeks ago. When did the journalist do their Info request?

      • grumpy 8.1.1

        Cunliffe knew the letter existed – and lied about it.

        • Te Reo Putake 8.1.1.1

          Bullshit. If he knew about it, he would have said so, because the letter is completely innocuous.

          • grumpy 8.1.1.1.1

            So he wrote the letter after meeting Liu and didn’t know about it? Was he sleepwalking?

            • One Anonymous Bloke 8.1.1.1.1.1

              For one thing he wrote (probably just signed it but that makes him the author in my book cos he’s responsible for the contents) the letter asking that Mr. Lui (not Mr. Liu) be provided with a timetable.

              What makes you think they met, other than political expedience? He didn’t even know the guy’s name.

              • grumpy

                First sentence “I have been approached…”
                Can’t have been a phone call or even email as Liu didn’t speak English………
                Goes beyond belief that he would write a letter like that without even knowing or meeting the guy……and he seemed to know a lot about his business plans – eh?

                • Hayden

                  Can’t have been a phone call or even email as Liu didn’t speak English………

                  So, they met in person and Liu waved his hands about until Cunliffe figured out what he was on about?

                  Are you retiring this persona soon or something?

            • Te Reo Putake 8.1.1.1.1.2

              Who says he met Liu? Just you? If you have any evidence to show that, feel free to put your cards on the table. But even if he did, that doesn’t mean a hell of a lot. He’s an MP. He meets lots of people. I met a lot of people at the pub last Saturday night watching the AB’s, but I don’t recall all their names. I certainly would struggle to name people I may not even have met a decade ago, but your experience may differ.

              Btw, it’s a form letter. The kind of thing that gets bunged in front of MP’s all the time. Cunliffe didn’t write it, MP’s employ staff to do that for them in minor matters like this.

              • grumpy

                First sentance of his letter “I have been approached….”

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  Yes, Grumpy, because meeting someone is the only way you can approach them. Why just the other day, I approached a potential client through their secretary to see if we could set up a meeting…no, wait…

                  • grumpy

                    Did their secretary speak English….?

                    • felix

                      grumpy, has it dawned on you yet that you’re actually arguing that Liu met with Cunliffe and discussed immigration issues despite not speaking a word of English?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Well, maybe Cunliffe conferenced in Rudd who knows Mandarin?

                    • Tracey

                      and john keys memory lapse, you agree they were all lies grumpy? Theres quite a few?

              • john

                When you have sentences in the letter detailing a list of companies Liu owns, the products they make, where they will be sold, and the time frame that they hope start up in, that’s hardly a form letter.

                • lprent

                  Yes it is. That is a letter done on a word processor. Standard template letter, drop in a couple of extra bits as required.

            • freedom 8.1.1.1.1.3

              I am troubled by the base level failure of comprehension being expressed by those waving Armstrong’s jockstrap. Forgoing the absurd and widely repeated declaration that the letter somehow actively endorses Liu’s application, there is no evidence or indeed any reason to imagine that Cunliffe met Liu, or does ‘made contact through an immigration agent’ mean something different on Planet Key?

            • Craig Glen Eden 8.1.1.1.1.4

              No he didnt write the letter numpty a staff member did 11 years ago please keep up. Cunliffe wouldnt of had to meet with him because he would of meet with the staff member who wrote the letter.

              • grumpy

                so when he states “i have been approached…”, he was lying then too?

                • Hayden

                  You do know “approached” has other meanings than simply walking up to something, don’t you?

                  • One Anonymous Bloke

                    When Grumpy approaches something he usually hits his head quite hard in consequence of which his memory isn’t that great.

                    • grumpy

                      In your case, colliding with reality is particularly painful – eh?

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      Which reality would that be? That this is well played by National? That it’s a bad look if you don’t scratch the surface? That that great big dent in the surface was the result of your last approach?

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  Only on Planet Grumpy. On Earth an approach can take a variety of forms, and a meeting is usually described as such.

                  • grumpy

                    You forget Liu didn’t speak english so phone and writing is out – next?

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      You banged your head again and forgot that the approach was made to Cunliffe’s office through a third party.

                    • framu

                      You forget Liu didn’t speak english so a face to face is out – next?

                    • Tracey

                      and john keys memory lapse, you agree they were all lies grumpy? Theres quite a few?

                • freedom

                  “by an immigration agent “

                  • grumpy

                    Nice try, but if that was so, we would know who he is by now.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      How, by making an approach? You’d just knock the poor guy unconscious.

                    • freedom

                      so Liu, you remember him (?) the guy who a few months back needed an interpreter (and a government minister) because he could not talk with the Police, was able to negotiate immigration issues on his own back in 2003 ?
                      lmao

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      Nice one Freedom. Reality’s Liberal bias strikes again 🙂

                    • Tracey

                      and john keys memory lapse, you agree they were all lies grumpy? Theres quite a few?

                • Tracey

                  and john keys memory lapse, you agree they were all lies grumpy? Theres quite a few?

        • the card 8.1.1.2

          Nah he may be gaffe prone but he’s not that stupid.

        • Tracey 8.1.1.3

          and john keys memory lapse, you agree they were all lies grumpy? Theres quite a few?

        • Tracey 8.1.1.4

          and john keys memory lapse, you agree they were all lies grumpy? There’s quite a few?

      • the card 8.1.2

        I’m pretty sure Ministers get copies of OIAs in relation to their portfolios.

        • john 8.1.2.1

          Under the “no surprises” policy, the police said they had to let relevant ministers in the govt know what OIA information they were about to release in the Williamson/Liu case.

  9. john 9

    The letter was only one of hundreds of documents on the Liu case, and of little value to National.

    That was until this week when Cunliffe denied ever helping Liu – several times.

    • freedom 9.1

      ok john, your harping is getting really boring. In plain english..what special assistance are you imagining this letter represents? In what way does this letter help Liu, outside of that which is to be expected by any member of the public when asking for the help of any MP regardless of their party affiliation constituency position or personal wealth?

      • One Anonymous Bloke 9.1.1

        That isn’t how it works Freedom: the trick to repeating a lie is to keep repeating it, not to get bogged down in petty details.

        • freedom 9.1.1.1

          At school I used to get kicked out of class for the same petty need for accuracy! If something is wrong, it’s wrong .. right? 🙂

          • One Anonymous Bloke 9.1.1.1.1

            No, that a lie repeated often enough becomes truth isn’t just the National Party manifesto, it’s been verified by scientific research too.

            They do it because it works.

            • freedom 9.1.1.1.1.1

              yup… sad but true, the beat goes on
              power is reality and truth is for suckers

      • john 9.1.2

        It’s blatantly obvious that by including the list of business interests, export information, and the time frame that they wanted to start exporting, that the letter from Cunliffe was a hurry up.

        Official Information documents show that at least one of the reasons Liu’s immigration application was slow was because the Department of Internal Affairs were investigating why he was on Interpols red list (along with investigations from two other government departments).

        However the letter itself would have been of little importance, if not for the fact that Cunliffe was highly critical of National helping Liu, then taking his money.

        Labour did the same thing, denied it, then got caught out on both counts.

        • freedom 9.1.2.1

          john, I have some tartan paint I would like to sell you

        • Tracey 9.1.2.2

          do you understand that williamson was interfering in a case of domestic violence against two people to which the offender later pleaded guilty? You think tgat is the same? Then you agree collins is a very bad woman who cannot possibly stay was minister of justice?

          Just trying to locate your shifting moral compass

          • john 9.1.2.2.1

            I was away for the Williamson fiasco but that sounds much worse.

            In writing the letter to help Liu, it’s highly likely Cunliffe did nothing wrong.

            Where he’s gone wrong is attacking National for helping Liu and taking his money, when Labour had been helping Liu and taking his money.

            That’s hypocrisy, but what made it significantly worse was denying getting donations and (repeatedly) denying helping Liu, then immediately getting caught out on both counts.

            That would be like Cunliffe attacking Banks on taking anonymous donations, then getting caught with a secret trust taking anonymous donations. Oh that’s right. That happened..

            Ok, a better example. It would be like Kim Dotcom complaining about someone breaching his copyright.

            The point when Cunliffe now attacks National on these subjects, he’s seen by the public to have no credibility.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 9.1.2.2.1.1

              Was Banks “attacked”* for taking anonymous donations? Or was he “attacked” for pretending they were anonymous? Perhaps you were away for that too.

              Or perhaps you’re just mendacious.

              Which is it, John? Is your comment mistaken, ignorant, or duplicitous?

              *by the Crown Solicitor, no less!

              • john

                Pretending they were anonymous, you mean like Cunliffe taking donations from his friend through his secret trust?

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  No, I mean was your comment just ignorant and sloppy, or was that a(nother) feeble attempt to advance a false narrative?

                  Either way it undermines your credibility, but I’d like you to choose whether I treat you with charity or hostility and contempt.

                  • john

                    How you chose to regard it has absolutely no relevance to me.

                    I’m happy to debate ideas and issues, but if you prefer to debase your own argument and revert to personal abuse, that ‘s your choice.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      As is your choice to argue in bad faith.

                      PS: behave like a maggot and I reserve the right to call attention to your resemblance to the larval offspring of an insect.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Oh fuck a voice pretending to be moderate and rational advocating for the radical and oligarchic and against the interests of his own neighbours. Meh.

                    • framu

                      theres that – “im so polite, but i will be a complete bullshit artist until someone tells me to get fucked so i can call them rude” tactic so favoured by the likes of srylands and friends

                • McFlock

                  nah, like intentionally signing a document banks knew to be false, the criminal…

                • Tracey

                  which friend? One of the three he named or one of the two he returned money to?

                  Can you name the people who paid $5000 each to dine at Antonine’s to raise money for Mr key?.

                  so you are basically saying that Mr Cunliffe should not have held the right to account for their behaviour, their lies, their misleading parliament, in case he himself had written a letter 11 years ago, asking for a time frame for a decision from immigration, before the subject of the letter had given any money to Labour and without his wife being on the board of any of Mr Liu’s companies? That’s what you object so strongly to?

                  Do you have any children?

            • Delia 9.1.2.2.1.2

              There is no proof that any donations were taken. I am waiting for our Dear Leader to produce that evidence. So far he has not. Right now the National party looks stupid.

  10. grumpy 10

    Clearly Key also has information on Liu’s donations to Labour (something Labour probably does not have). He probably also has information on Cunliffe’s secret donors. The leadup to this election is going to be gold, whoever thought it was smart to attack National over a glass of milk and donations from Liu was a genius.

    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      Full spectrum internet surveillance is a handy capability to have.

    • Hayden 10.2

      It wasn’t about a glass of milk, it was about using Ministerial travel and status to promote her husband’s company.

      Look here:
      http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/1405/020520141724330001.pdf (PDF)

      Go to page 83 (85 in the PDF).

      Event

      Visit and tour of Oravida facilities

      Purpose

      To increase the profile of a successful importer and distributor of New Zealand products into China

      Actually, you probably know all that and choose to lie. Fair enough, I suppose.

  11. Gosman 11

    It does raise the question if this letter came up as part of a routine OIA request to verify governmental abd parliamentarian interaction with Mr Liu why didn’t Mr Cunliffe ‘ s office request the same data BEFORE making attacks on National over their links to the man?

    • One Anonymous Bloke 11.1

      Because National have come under attack for the nature of those links, not the fact that they exist. A convenient error on your part.

      • Gosman 11.1.1

        But why didn’t David Cunliffe’s office get this information?

        • One Anonymous Bloke 11.1.1.1

          It’s a fools errand when the media will attack him for doing his job. I note the little dogs throwing microphones at him never accuse the lying Prime Minister of lying. “You lied” – show me the last time a journalist said that to Judith Collins or John Key or even the criminal Banks.

          • Gosman 11.1.1.1.1

            Wah wah wah. Bitching about the horrid media doesn’t mean Cunliffe shouldn’t have done some more homework on this issue. Indeed it makes it more imperative that his team does so so he doesn’t get caught out by revelations such as yesterday’s.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 11.1.1.1.1.1

              Actually Gos, it does. The media will attack Cunliffe at the behest of the National Party whether there is substance to the allegations or not. Homework is pointless when you’re under attack for going to work.

              In strategic terms, the National Party is lighting fires. The use of fire in warfare is risky, to put it mildly. When the wind changes you burn too.

              • Gosman

                Excellent. I would love that to become a Labour party mantra. “The media will attack us regardless so don’t bother about doing the homework on anything”.

    • grumpy 11.2

      Jeez, Gosman, you don’t half state the obvious……

  12. JK 12

    THIS is what should be plastered all over the media, and be of concern to NZ people and journalists
    – ShonKey and the USA Secretary of State John Kerry – putting nuclear power on the agenda.
    Much more important to NZ people than Cunliffe’s memory of 11 years ago.

    This is a quote from Stuff online –

    ” But one of the issues on Kerry’s agenda when he spoke to the gathering of Pacific leaders was a topic that used to be a thorn in the side of New Zealand-US relations – nuclear power.
    New Zealand’s refusal to distinguish between nuclear powered warships and those carrying nuclear weapons was at the heart of the decades-old Anzus bustup and freeze on US-NZ relations till the early 2000s.
    But Kerry was less interested in that dispute than in the benefits of nuclear power in the future – using a wide-ranging speech addressing climate change and ocean depletion to press the advantages of nuclear energy.
    Ignoring the traditional sensitivities on the issue, Kerry warned that nuclear energy was an inevitable response to the world’s climate change and pollution problems. “

  13. dimebag russell 13

    so what did the letter say?

  14. Matthew Hooton 14

    “Scandalously, some ministers from the ruling National Party have sought to use their positions to overtly influence immigration matters.”

    Hilarious. It was Labour who gave Liu residency one day before the 2005 election. And Labour that gave Bill Liu the same, against advice.

    And what is your problem with ministers “overtly” influencing immigration matters. The law allows them too (unfortunately). Would you prefer they influence immigration matters “covertly”??

    • redfred 14.1

      It is the purchasing of influence that we are concerned about, and we are lacking the evidence that Cunliffe did that, no smoking gun, no donation, no nothing apart from an innocuous form letter, that was a simple request.

      No even in the same ball park as

      Minister Williamson trying to influence a police investigation.
      Minister Nick Smith trying to influence ACC payments for his lover

      These two should have been thrown out of parliament for this.

      Hardly worth mentioning when our Prime Minister lies about Golfing donations from Orivida
      Did we have John Amstrong squealing for Key resignation over this blatant lie?

      The stink over this mess is emanating from John Keys office

      • Anthony Bull 14.1.1

        Williamson didn’t try to influence a police investigation.

        • Colonial Viper 14.1.1.1

          Really? So why did he call the police up about an active operational criminal matter?

        • Tracey 14.1.1.2

          So when he described him as welathy so they had better make sure they get their facts straight, he was just advising on operational matters? Oh wait, that would be for the Minister of Police? Oh wait, Ministers cant interfere in operational matters? Oh wait Williamson wasn’t Minister for Police, he was just the Cable Guy

    • Once was Tim 14.2

      Quick question Matty Ho …. PR is something that can be more readily rescinded than citizenship? I’m only asking since you have a reputation of being the expert on everything and its dog. And I understand it’s especially easier if that PR status was granted under false pretenses.
      Ekshly, the more I think about it, you should be really really greatful that all those bleeding heart lefty bloody liberals aren’t really that much into revenge. Give it a year or two though, and who knows what might eventuate.

    • dimebag russell 14.3

      if you know so much where did john keys get $80,000,000 from?

    • framu 14.4

      well they make a dogs breakfast of immigration cases and its the poor staff who cop the flak everytime it blows up in the media for start

    • Tracey 14.5

      by covertly do you mean like when Williamson phone the cops to give them a stern talking to on behalf of an accused domestic violence perpetrator?

      Or do you mean when the Minister of Justice pretended she just popped into Oravida on the way to the airport (in the opposite direction), despite it being part of her itinerary, her husband being on the Board, and her pretend private dinner being originally arranged by MFAT?

  15. redfred 15

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/john-key-admits-keeping-dirt-file-labour-mps-5655555

    Prime Minister John Key has admitted he keeps a dirt file on Labour MPs in his top drawer.

    But the Prime Minister says he receives a lot of scandalous information.

    “I’ve had plenty of people who’ve rung me up with information about Labour MPs,” he said.

    “And I’ve done the same thing to every person that’s rung me. I’ve written it down, put it in my top drawer and kept it to myself. I’m just not interested in engaging in it.”

    Mr Key quipped that if he writes a book one day, people will find it “quite fascinating”.

    In this case kindly supplied by the NZ police

    • framu 15.1

      which is weird – we have the PM, FFS, basically admitting hes neck deep in the smears, and engaging in trial by gossip and how many journos call him out on acting like a character from mean girls?

  16. ffloyd 16

    Dogs seem to be featuring today! Has anyone seen Emerson in the herald today? Very funny and so true.

    [lprent: Thanks… Posted. ]

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    BP, Z and Mobil all insist that petrol price hikes are temporary, “in a very literal sense.” The nation’s major petrol providers are trying to allay customer fears over prices, promising that they’ll move to lower them again “immediately” when the Middle East is returned to its formerly peaceful state. ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 hours ago
  • All Blacks unveil boat for Rugby World Cup 2019
    South African coach Rassie Erasmus says he has no idea what they’re going to do about the boat. In a highly anticipated press conference this afternoon, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has finally unveiled the team’s boat for its Rugby World Cup 2019 campaign. In a press conference that went ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 hours ago
  • An increasingly shoddy coverup
    The Operation Burnham inquiry continued to question senior NZDF staff today, and their shoddy coverup over their knowledge of civilian casualties continue to fall apart. If you recall, first, we were asked to believe that it was all a series of "mistakes and errors": a senior officer with multiple degrees ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 hours ago
  • If we are to avoid making the earth uninhabitable, we need to rapidly decarbonise our civilisation, and cut emissions to zero as quickly as possible. This seems like an impossible task, but its not. Pushing hard on a few technologies and trends will let us halve emissions in a decade:Greenhouse ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    8 hours ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    9 hours ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    13 hours ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    14 hours ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    14 hours ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    17 hours ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    1 day ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    1 day ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 day ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 day ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    3 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    3 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    3 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    3 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    4 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    6 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    7 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

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