Bill English doesn’t get it – literally doesn’t get it – how messed up the “Brighter Future” is

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This is an astonishing admission from Bill English:

Prime Minister Bill English ‘puzzled’ by high numbers out of work and education

Both the Government and social agencies say they’re struggling to reach at-risk youth.

There are approximately 92,700 Kiwis aged between 15 and 24 who aren’t working, in education or training. That’s up 19 percent during National’s time in power, and Prime Minister Bill English admits he’s not sure why.

“That is a bit of a challenge, a bit of a puzzle because we have in place any number of programmes providing pathways for young people from school into work,” he told The AM Show on Monday morning. …

Why would young people dropping out of work or education be up 19% after 9 long years of National government?

Why. Why. Why oh why?

Could it be because they don’t see that they have a future in this country?
Could it be because the PM has told them that they are useless druggies who should be replaced by other workers?
Could it be because of the corrosive effects of increasing inequality? (Read The Spirit Level Bill).
Could it be because most work is too low paid?
Could it be because conditions for workers have been steadily eroded?
Could it be because they know they will never own their own home?
Could it be because they can look around and see poverty, people sleeping in cars, homeless…?
Could it be because education has been damaged by narrow standards and stupid targets?
Could it be because welfare and support systems are increasingly hard to access and punitive?
Could it be because they don’t have faith in a political system that allows dirty politics?
Could it be because support systems such as mental health have been slashed and can’t cope?
Could it be because they understand the irreparable damage that we are doing to our environment?
Could it be because of a stupid “war on drugs” instead of a considered health policy?
Could it be because the “Brighter Future” is a mess, it doesn’t work for them, and they live it every day?

Such a mystery.


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55 comments on “Bill English doesn’t get it – literally doesn’t get it – how messed up the “Brighter Future” is”

  1. Kevin 1

    Job advertised in Hawkes Bay at a national franchise store:
    Must be available for 91 hours a week, 10-20 hours guaranteed work.

    • Yeah, it’s not simply “puzzling” but astonishing that many people wouldn’t queue up to volunteer for that. If you’re Bill English, maybe.

    • UncookedSelachimorpha 1.2

      Disgraceful.

      Minimum wage too no doubt – a mere $4.45 / hour below what you actually need to live.

  2. The decrypter 2

    English “would get it” if his polling indicated that of the 92000 plus, those eligible may actually vote this election. I get it.

  3. BM 3

    Just talking to a sparky a few days ago, his apprentice called it quits because he’d prefer the weed and chilling out with his mate’s lifestyle.

    This kid was aged 19 and about nine months into his apprenticeship and threw it all away, fucking idiot.

    Drugs do seem to be a big part of the problem.

    Having said that when I was his age I was always blazed, the big difference was that

    1)We weren’t drug tested what you did outside of work hours was irrelevant, as long as you did your job no one cared.

    2) Contracts your boss entered into didn’t state that the contract will be terminated if any of his/her staff fail a drug test

    3) There was no super strict H&S regime that employers had to abide by.

    • tc 3.1

      Yes dear

      • Siobhan 3.1.1

        actually, that’s a fair comment from BM.
        Back in the 80s all the boot boys in AK could just walk onto a demolition/building site and be guaranteed work, no one cared what they’d been up to the night before, and they earned more money in the hand than my 19 year old boy gets for a weeks work nowadays.
        Not to mention all the casual work that, unlike now, was cash, which actually meant you could survive even if it meant baked beans and a cheap cruddy flat with no front door.

        If you ask me (adjusts woolen hat, reading spectacles and slurps another cup of cocoa), we’ve created a World that makes life far too small and mean and hopeless for young people who aren’t fully signed up ‘young achievers’.

        • WILD KATIPO 3.1.1.1

          Hear hear , Siobhan !!!

        • KJT 3.1.1.2

          We just had one rule when I was an apprentice. Turn up fit for work in the morning.

          If they had drug testing back then, all of us would have failed the alcohol test.

          A fair few would have failed a dope test.

    • …when I was his age I was always blazed, the big difference was that…

      …people back then didn’t accept the kind of bullshit that they’re being subjected to now. Maybe you’d have ditched an apprenticeship if there’d been the moronic drug-testing regime we have now. In which case, direct your ire at the government, not munter who quits his apprenticeship.

      • BM 3.2.1

        So what’s the answer? I can’t see H and S changing anytime soon?

        Might just have to accept there’s going to be a fuck load of youth who would rather turn down a job then go drug-free.

        Hopefully later on priorities change and it’s not such an issue, 25 seems to be a bit of a golden number.

        • Psycho Milt 3.2.1.1

          1. Statutory requirement that drug testing must measure actual impairment or not be carried out. If there’s no test for current impairment by a particular drug, no testing for it is permitted.

          2. Come up with a health and safety regime that isn’t both a knee-jerk reaction to Pike River and an attempt to avoid directly inconveniencing National’s constituency.

          Don’t think any party’s currently proposing those things, but we’re all free to lobby them.

          • BM 3.2.1.1.1

            I agree, how could you even consider legalising weed when you have such a draconian health and Safety policy in place.

            Thinking about it could you actually discriminate against some who was indulging in what is a legal activity?

            • Draco T Bastard 3.2.1.1.1.1

              They’re already discriminating against a legal activity. Taking drugs is legal – it’s possession of them that’s illegal.

            • WILD KATIPO 3.2.1.1.1.2

              Half of Scandinavia are either pissed or stoned after hours , but somehow they just keep managing to run the most prosperous economy’s and social welfare nations on the globe.

              I wonder if their oil CEO’s lead by example…

            • Psycho Milt 3.2.1.1.1.3

              Thinking about it could you actually discriminate against some who was indulging in what is a legal activity?

              Yep, all above board. Drinking alcohol is legal but you can discriminate the fuck out of someone who drinks it on the job.

              • BM

                I was thinking more along the lines of having a joint at night but getting stung the following morning in a random drug test.

                Anyone who’s ever smoked weed knows that you’re not the slightest bit impaired but you will lose your job and your boss could lose a lot of money..

                Someone desperately needs to develop a drug impairment test for weed along the same lines as alcohol.

                Getting done when you’re not even under the influence is just ludicrous.

                • The issue is that the tests for cannabis test residue that stays past the point you’re impaired, wheras blood alcohol and breath alcohol are reasonably correlated with alcohol impairment. Nobody specifically designed alcohol tests as impairment tests, it just happens the easy ways to test for alcohol work relatively well that way.

                  I’m not saying it’s categorically impossible, but the lack of an actual impairment test for cannabis isn’t due to lack of imagination, it’s due to the distinct active properties of THC and ethanol, and that most testers are quite happy to get back a result of “yes they used cannabis in the past few months.”

                  That said, it’s a fair distinction that deserves to make its way into employment law that you can’t dismiss someone for drug use outside of work that didn’t demonstrably impair them on the job. Drug tests that don’t measure impairment are really just another form of constructive dismissal, especially seeing you can just fire someone for their behaviour on the job being unacceptable without any proof they were high anyway.

            • KJT 3.2.1.1.1.4

              In the days when alcohol was a problem, I just used to get another workmate to keep the watch, if anyone turned up staggering.
              The culprit would come to work the next day very sorry for himself, and sporting a cauliflower ear.
              Once was usually enough, to ensure it was not repeated.

    • aerobubble 3.3

      Controlling behavior from the freedom loving economic party. Businesses need more control of workers, lowe paid employees, so who are you going to hire, yep, t freedom libertarian leave to the market economists who push legistigation that hampers the ability of the economy to find either good employees, or employers who have to lower standards hire mediocre managers. Managers incentivized to financial market needs not the needs of the real economy.

      Loathsome Naff party puzzles inself into its own mess.

    • Interesting side note , BM ,…

      A Salvation Army Major was picked up at the airport when he was commissioned to establish the Army in Russia when the Soviet Union collapsed,… the Russian S.A member who picked him up was quite drunk on vodka.

      This Major was a hard man ,- and had to deal with the Russian Mafia on a regular basis regarding supply’s kept in warehouses for the poor. He told them , ” if you deal fairly with me , and don’t break the law , I’ll deal fairly with you ”.

      That was the sort of man he was. Blunt and no nonsense. And a marathon runner to boot. And he said the Russians are a hard , tough people by and large.

      When I asked him why they drank so much , he said ” it was just so incredibly cold”…

      My point being , – what people choose to do after hours is their private choice. And so long as it does not cause harm ( which invariably all drugs do including alcohol , sadly) or detract from ones capacity to do their job , well then ,… these invasive measures should not be enforced. The problem , however is that people rarely show control over substance abuse.

      I constantly struggled to enforce / encourage production , group motivation or prevent absenteeism when I was a foreman and had to deal with ‘P’ induced withdrawals in my youthful painter / decorator workgang. And that was not a pleasant experience. I was 20 years these guys their senior, played 6 years in a metal band in some dodgy gang pads and Pare prison , been around the block … yet still felt it was an uphill battle.

      Not all young people are like this by any chalk, however. Most are not.

      Its a difficult one , BM.

      I can see both sides atm.

      Even though right now as I type this I am enjoying a glass of red wine… I reckon we’d all be better off without all these things…

      • BM 3.4.1

        The painting trade does seem to be a bit of a magnet for those who like to walk a bit on the wild side.

        I remember a painter chap I used to run into all the time of job sites, telling me about the awards night for the Waikato painter business of year awards.

        Wall to wall drugs and booze with a caravan out the back full of hookers, classy bunch those painters, lol.

        • mosa 3.4.1.1

          ‘Wall to wall drugs and booze with a caravan out the back full of hookers ! Classy bunch those painters ! ”

          Not if your Nana ordered blue and white for the exterior and got orange, green and pink instead.

          • WILD KATIPO 3.4.1.1.1

            Yeah but BM’s quite right,… its like that.

            And the guy who became my boss that gave me a fair deal after 30 years of neo liberalism was an ex army guy running a painting / decorating business that had a picture of the Queen on the wall as soon as you walked into his living room / kitchen and thought nothing of punching out the lights of a Waikato based DJ who was a shit payer and a talking head all in one. And that wanker DJ was the one who threw the first punch.

            My boss decked the pratt.

            I was in my mid thirty’s and early forties and he was 20 years my senior and was STILL like my mentor. I owe a lot to that bloke , he was a real KIWI hard case.

            Unlike the boss I worked for in the example in comment 3.4 ,… that was when I was working for an ex Queen St cowboy privileged pratt from Auckland who shifted tio the Waikato,- there was no back up form that dude and he was a wannabe ‘ leftie’… and a wanker to boot.

        • KJT 3.4.1.2

          I know a fair few people in responsible positions now, who would never have passed a dope test back in the day.

    • saveNZ 3.5

      We didn’t seem to have the P epidemic either a decade ago. Wonder how all that P is getting into NZ?

      Apparently only $100 for a weeks supply.

      People bringing the raw ingredients for P in this country to poison people, but the government doesn’t seem too fussed. More interested in getting the proceeds from crimes recovery than actually stopping the P. Or even being interested in why it’s happening in the last decade and moving to stop that…

      • WILD KATIPO 3.5.1

        Hehehe… I get where you are coming from,….

        As a result of our ‘ free market’ deal with China whereby they can buy property here in NZ , – but we cannot buy property in China, … we have the likes of the New Zealand Headhunters gang liaising with Chinese Triad gang drug mules and contractors bringing their shit into New Zealand.

        This makes it easier for shit talkers like Bill English – the Double Dipper from Dipton – to blame New Zealand youth as ‘ hopeless , useless drug impaired no hopers’ and import a few thousand more from Asia to provide cheap labour and throw young KIWI workers on the scrap heap and implementing a runaway , out of control and irresponsible immigration programme to import even more cheap labour to put downwards pressure on wages and shore up NZ’s housing bubble.

        What a complete Catholic hypocrite and arsehole.

        WISE UP , New Zealanders , – English is nothing more than a globalist Mont Pelerin Society lackey that wants to gut this society as much as he can before he looses in September.

        Don’t believe me ?

        THEN BLOODY READ THIS :

        ………………………………………….

        New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
        http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

        Who Is The Mont Pelerin Society ?
        ………………………………………………………

        This looting and destruction of the nation-state of New Zealand was planned and implemented by the London-based Mont Pelerin Society.

        In 1947, Mont Pelerin founder von Hayek lamented that the war had drastically strengthened nation-states, which must be replaced, he said, with the classic, anti-state free trade “liberalism” of eighteenth and nineteenth century Britain.

        Many of those continental Europeans present, like von Hayek, carried the prefix “von” before their surnames, signifying that they came from the noble families which had governed Europe for centuries.

        Mont Pelerin shared the same “conservative revolution” philosophy as the Nazis. It also shared some of the same personnel. For instance, Max von Thurn und Taxis was a sponsor of von Hayek and his new society.

        Thurn und Taxis’ family had founded another society in southern Germany before World War 1, which was composed entirely of aristocrats, known as the Thule Society. Thule in turn formed a special “workers division” known as the “National Socialist German Workers Party” (NSDAP). The NSDAP, into which an Austrian corporal named Adolf Hitler was recruited, later became better known by the abbreviated version of its name, the “Nazis.”
        ………………………………………………………………

        In 1989, Max von Thurn und Taxis attended a meeting of his Mont Pelerin Society in Christchurch, New Zealand, to judge, first hand, the results of the “worlds most radical free market revolution.”

        ” A primary focus of the Thule Society was a claim concerning the origins of the Aryan race. In 1917, people who wanted to join the “Germanic Order”, out of which the Thule Society developed in 1918, had to sign a special “blood declaration of faith” concerning their lineage:

        “The signer hereby swears to the best of his knowledge and belief that no Jewish or coloured blood flows in either his or in his wife’s veins, and that among their ancestors are no members of the coloured races.”
        ……………………………………………………………….

        Thule Society – Wikipedia
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society

        Young Hitler – Excerpts Appendix | The Thule Society
        http://www.younghitler.com/thule_society.htm

    • mosa 3.6

      Ah BM the good old days in old NZ before it all went pear shaped and the harsh reality of life and responsibility kicked in.

    • NZJester 3.7

      All these anecdotal comments about people preferring weed are exposed as lies when real evidence is looked at. I bet if you heard his former apprentices side it would be a totally different story. I’m betting that is just what he says about why the apprentice left to hide the fact of what a shit employer and tutor he is. Probably forced his apprentice to do unpaid overtime, micro-manged him or belittled him at every opportunity. I worked for a boss like that once. I heard him talk shit to another employer one time about another employee who quit just the previous day telling all these stories I knew to be false. The employee had told me he was quitting as he could not take the bosses shit treatment anymore. He was doing his best to learn, but when he asked valid questions was belittled for asking them and never got an answer, probably because the boss used that as a means to hide the fact he didn’t know the answer!

  4. Or could it be that as a result of of 33 years of neo liberal policy they see all of the shit results mentioned in the article above by Anthony Robbins as pretty much how life is for most of them – and us ?

    New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
    http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

    And National party MP’s as being something along the same sort of lines as this guy…

    Denis Leary – Asshole (Uncensored Version) – YouTube

  5. Antoine 5

    Love to know how the 19% increase is broken down between age groups, ethnicities, qualified vs unqualified, urban vs rural etc

    A.

  6. Stuart Munro 6

    The future is bright for Bill: no shadows in a bonfire.

  7. esoteric pineapples 7

    Don’t forget getting rid of night classes – one of the most short sighted and mean-spirited things National has done

    • UncookedSelachimorpha 7.1

      Yep, how that was supposed to make the future any brighter, I’ll never know.

      • tc 7.1.1

        It wasnt it was intended to send a message as the MSM duly repeated the lies about courses that were self funded and not govt funded.

        Flogging state houses hopefully bookends the nasty partys reign and they get turfed out.

      • WILD KATIPO 7.1.2

        Because by closing in vulnerable people with little choices to advance themselves makes them even more vulnerable to filling the part time increasingly minimum wage populations…

        And that means for National supporters – the sun surely did shine out of Paula Bennetts arse.

  8. tc 8

    To quote homer simpson
    “….just because I don’t care doesn’t mean I don’t understand…”

  9. Tamati Tautuhi 9

    The big problem is the 92,700 idle youth aged 15-24 are not going to disappear many will probably join gangs and peddle drugs or spend their time planning how to make some illicit money, the old saying goes “the devil makes work for idle hands”.

    It concerns me when I hear the Headhunters Gang are recruiting more prospects on a weekly basis than we as a country are recruiting young Police Officers ?

    We need to educate and train our youth no matter what their backgrounds, I heard the other day some children are getting to Intermediate Level at school and can not read or write, if this is happening we have some serious issues in our Primary Education System ?

    • That’s what happens when teachers are induced to operate on a ‘ merit’ system – like bank staff – they have to show evidence of numbers / units of production. There is little time for teachers to invest in students with learning issues – from whatever reason the origins – when they are forced to compete among themselves for wages and conditions .

      This is a direct and shameful result of bulk funding , ‘promotion by merit’ and deliberate under- funding by successive neo liberal govt’s who seek to advance the cause for ‘ profit driven private education establishments’ , – over taxpayer funded ‘ public education ‘.

      If we wish to rid ourselves of this social malaise , – then we would first recognize it for what it is , attach a label to it , – and then come together in unity – such as the Teachers Union and other Unions by way of support ,… to dislodge these odious neo liberal elements from having influence over our society.

      And we can start by reading this link and realizing that this contains the essence of who the New Right were , and how they STILL influence the social malaise we see in New Zealand today. If this BASIC requirement of understanding is not met , – then you will only have yourselves to blame.

      I am now talking DIRECT links to pseudo NAZISM and its effects in 2017 , – barring the sick and perverted racial / religious dogmas prevalent within the actual NAZI doctrines..

      New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
      http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

      ……………………………………………………………………………..

      * ” A primary focus of the Thule Society was a claim concerning the origins of the Aryan race. In 1917, people who wanted to join the “Germanic Order”, out of which the Thule Society developed in 1918, had to sign a special “blood declaration of faith” concerning their lineage:

      “The signer hereby swears to the best of his knowledge and belief that no Jewish or coloured blood flows in either his or in his wife’s veins, and that among their ancestors are no members of the coloured races.”
      ……………………………………………………………..

      Thule Society – Wikipedia
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society

      Young Hitler – Excerpts Appendix | The Thule Society
      http://www.younghitler.com/thule_society.htm

    • Johan 9.2

      TT, “if this is happening we have some serious issues in our Primary Education System”. The problem comes from dysfunctional families, who have children, while at the same time do not have the resources to raise them in a nurturing environment.
      From first hand experience, there are children who are forced to attend 5 to 6 different schools within a school year because of family or economic circumstances. Some children are not encouraged to go to school by their parents, so it’s more convenient for them to stay home and operate the playstation.

  10. bugsolutely nz 10

    I don’t I’m in work but find most of the people i deal with are not capable of the jobs there doing. Auckland transport would be a good example, Thy either receive bonuses based on the amount of congestion they cause or are unsuitable for the high paid positions they hold.

  11. Philj 11

    Bill English is practiced in not getting it. He didn’t know what a feminist was. Housing or immigration – denial. He rarely if ever mentions the government debt situation. It’s not in his interest to get it. In September he may well get it.

    • The reason he doesn’t ‘ get it’ is because he is in league with the same sort of fuckers I mentioned in comment ( 3.5.1 ) and ( 9.1 ).

      Why bother beating around the bush about these shitheads when the conclusive evidence for the motivations of their policy’s have been already well researched and are out there for all to see?

      Why tolerate the bastards any longer ?

      Are we masochists?

      Or do we just enjoy having something to bleat about?

      I find it intolerable that we allow these shitarses any measure of credence or ability to fuck our society like they have. I find it incredible we let them even exist as a political entity.

    • Tamati Tautuhi 11.2

      The guy is a Banker and they are all milking it, he is a Rothschild protege along with Johnny Key ?

  12. mosa 12

    92,000 young people with no direction , participation, aims or hope.

    Written off by the ruling class.

    That is the real disaster of the Brighter Future and an indictment of this Bill English National government.

    • Again – lets call them out for who they are and the motivational group behind them

      It didn’t happen in a vacuum one sunny day when some sicko thought it’d be a good idea to fuck off with New Zealanders wealth – IT WAS PLANNED.

      AND WE ARE STILL AS GULLIBLE AS WHEN ROGER DOUGLAS STARTED IT ALL !!!!!

      New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
      http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

      Who Is The Mont Pelerin Society ?

      This looting and destruction of the nation-state of New Zealand was planned and implemented by the London-based Mont Pelerin Society.

      In 1947, Mont Pelerin founder von Hayek lamented that the war had drastically strengthened nation-states, which must be replaced, he said, with the classic, anti-state free trade “liberalism” of eighteenth and nineteenth century Britain.

      Many of those continental Europeans present, like von Hayek, carried the prefix “von” before their surnames, signifying that they came from the noble families which had governed Europe for centuries.

      Mont Pelerin shared the same “conservative revolution” philosophy as the Nazis. It also shared some of the same personnel. For instance, Max von Thurn und Taxis was a sponsor of von Hayek and his new society.

      Thurn und Taxis’ family had founded another society in southern Germany before World War 1, which was composed entirely of aristocrats, known as the Thule Society. Thule in turn formed a special “workers division” known as the “National Socialist German Workers Party” (NSDAP). The NSDAP, into which an Austrian corporal named Adolf Hitler was recruited, later became better known by the abbreviated version of its name, the “Nazis.”

      In 1989, Max von Thurn und Taxis attended a meeting of his Mont Pelerin Society in Christchurch, New Zealand, to judge, first hand, the results of the “worlds most radical free market revolution.”

      …………………………………………………………………

      ” A primary focus of the Thule Society was a claim concerning the origins of the Aryan race. In 1917, people who wanted to join the “Germanic Order”, out of which the Thule Society developed in 1918, had to sign a special “blood declaration of faith” concerning their lineage:

      “The signer hereby swears to the best of his knowledge and belief that no Jewish or coloured blood flows in either his or in his wife’s veins, and that among their ancestors are no members of the coloured races.”

      ………………………………………………………………

      Thule Society – Wikipedia
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society

      Young Hitler – Excerpts Appendix | The Thule Society
      http://www.younghitler.com/thule_society.htm

      • BM 12.1.1

        You do get a bit fixated on stuff old boy.

        That’s about the hundredth time you’ve put up that link, can you summarise what it’s all about? that site is as ugly as fuck and hurts my eyes.

        • WILD KATIPO 12.1.1.1

          Well , old bean ,… the reason I post it up is simply because most people DON’T read links , – and are more interested in spouting off their opinions without any references to historic fact. They have no ‘ Touchstone ‘ as it were.

          They simply react to the latest degrading initiative of the far right instead of going on the front foot.

          This the neo liberal right wing knows. Only too well.

          And yet , – if half of these commentators had a working knowledge of history – both recent and earlier- they would be in a far better position to understand the present.

          As for the that site or any other being ugly , I cannot help that.

          Any admissible evidence – ( and I believe many instigators of neo liberal politics should indeed be brought to trial in our courts on charges of grand theft of the Commons wealth along with treason against the sovereign nation state of New Zealand ) – may indeed be ugly .

          I would imagine that a blood splattered wall in a murder scene is equally as ugly , – however is STILL admissible evidence. Equally as much as a poorly handwritten note of appeal or confession is in a court trial.

          I would advise anyone having trouble with that site or any other to get past their prejudices and focus instead on the relevancy of the content.

          To which that site by Hugh Price / Hugh Price Publishers serves more than adequately in exposing the quasi fascist NAZI origins of the New Right / neo liberal ideology implemented by such as the Mont Pelerin Society.

          I may have been a labourer most of my life , – but I also gained a Diploma in Science and Technology and have a keen interest in social equity . Please don’t try and fuck in such a simplistic manner with me in future , please.

          Not all of us old school New Zealanders pre 1984 are thick bastards.

          And just remember , – you wanted an answer , – well you’ve just got it.

          Learn to get over yourself.

          .

  13. Red Hand 13

    Yes a disaster, but not on its own an election issue.

    http://nzccss.org.nz/news/2017/04/election-issues-2017-housing-inequality/

  14. JustMe 14

    I get the feeling the reason for the low liking Bill English has for NZers is because he has been caught out Double Dipping on Accommodation costs and this is his feeble attempt at ‘tit for tat’ for being caught out.
    He now tries abysmally to give us the impression he is more holier than Jesus but for a guy who had absolutely no hesitation let alone remorse for resorting to Double Dipping shows how shallow he is as a person.
    And so when I say he tries to appear more holier than a Saint(Jesus)it’s because he seems to have a ready answer for everything but when caught in a corner(of his OWN making)he resorts to blaming others for HIS(and HIS governments’)mistakes.
    Whenever Bill English calls New Zealanders as “pretty damned hopeless” then I suggest he looks in the mirror and focuses his eyes directly upon himself and says that he too is ‘pretty damned hopeless’.
    As a Catholic he must well know the Biblical quote of ‘He who is without sin cast the first stone…”. But Bill English appears to be above even God and Jesus in his judgment of others.
    When we have a pm called Bill English who like John Key lives in a little world of make believe that all is fine and dandy in NZ then we know for a fact they are so completely out of touch with reality to be considered complete idiots.
    But then we all know neither Bill English, Paula Bennett or any other so-called senior National Party followers would ever know how the other half has to live in 2017. It’s called the Age of Arrogance and it’s something this government has alot of now.

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  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    14 hours ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    15 hours ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    15 hours ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 day ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    2 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    3 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    3 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    4 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    4 days ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    5 days ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    5 days ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    5 days ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    5 days ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    6 days ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    7 days ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    7 days ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
    The State Services Commission and Ombudsman have released another batch of OIA statistics, covering the last six months. Request volumes are up, and the core public service is generally handling them within the legal timeframe, though this may be because they've learned to extend rather than just ignore things. And ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Time for a New Deal: 25 years on
    In 1994, I was editing an ambitious street mag called Planet, from a fabled office at at 309 Karangahape Road. The thirteenth issue of the magazine was published in the winter of that year and its cover embodied a particularly ambitious goal: the end of cannabis prohibition.I wanted to do ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Not impressed
    KiwiBuild was one of the Ardern government's core policies. The government would end the housing crisis and make housing affordable again by building 100,000 new homes. Of course, it didn't work out like that: targets weren't met, the houses they did build were in the wrong place, and the whole ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Solar beats coal
    As the climate crisis escalates, it is now obvious that we need to radically decarbonise our economy. The good news is that its looking easy and profitable for the energy sector. Wind is already cheaper than fossil fuels, and now solar is too:The levellised cost of solar PV has fallen ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Step Too Far.
    A Crown Asset? For reasons relating to its own political convenience, the Crown pretends to believe that “No one owns the water.” To say otherwise would re-vivify the promises contained in the Treaty of Waitangi – most particularly those pertaining to the power of the chiefs and their proprietary rights ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Where Money Comes From
    Most people would say, no doubt, that they have a pretty good idea of what money is. They live with the reality of money every day. It is what is needed to buy the necessities of life and to maintain a decent standard of living. You get money, they would ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Banned by the Green Party leadership: Jill Abigail on women’s rights and trans rights
    The article below was an opinion piece that appeared in the Spring 2019 issue of Te Awa (the NZ Green Party’s newsletter) and on the Greens website.  In keeping with their policy of hostility to women defending women’s right to female-only spaces, Green bureaucrats have since removed the opinion piece.  ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The fallacy of the proximity argument.
    Longer term readers may remember my complaining that, as a political scientist, it is burdensome to have non-political scientists wanting to engage me about politics. No layperson would think to approach an astrophysicist and lecture him/her on the finer details of quarks and black holes, but everybody with an opinion ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Where We Stood: Chris Trotter Replies To Stevan Eldred-Grigg.
    Joining The Fight: Stevan Eldred-Grigg's argument for New Zealand staying out of the Second World War fails not only on the hard-headed grounds of preserving the country’s strategic and economic interests; and not just on the soft-hearted grounds of duty and loyalty to the nation that had given New Zealand ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Universities back the climate strike
    On September 27, School Strike 4 Climate will be striking for a future to pressure the government for meaningful climate action. This time, they've asked adults to join them. And now, Lincoln University and Victoria University of Wellington have signed on:Victoria University of Wellington has joined Lincoln University in endorsing ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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