Can’t help won’t help

Written By: - Date published: 7:01 am, April 20th, 2011 - 108 comments
Categories: class war, cost of living, economy, john key - Tags: ,

Once upon a time John Key was promising great things to the “underclass”, and to New Zealanders in general. But now that he’s in government he reckons that he can’t help after all:

Key: We can’t help your price pain

Prime Minister John Key yesterday acknowledged New Zealanders were “feeling the pinch” as prices rose at their fastest rate in two years led by fuel costs, something he said the Government could do little about.

Stop right there John. Around half of the current inflation rate is driven by your GST increase (you remember, the GST that you promised not raise). Lower GST and raise taxes at the top end of personal income (or better still, bring in a Tobin Tax). That will reduce the price pain.

Then you can really get stuck in. Raise the minimum wage and the benefits, withdraw the anti-worker legislation that helps keep wages down. That will reduce the price pain. Get to work now on a proper public transport system so that people can start to wean themselves off their unaffordable cars. That will reduce the price pain. Bring in price controls on staple foodstuffs like milk (because on NZ wages we can’t afford to pay international prices for the foods that we produce here at home). That will reduce the price pain. Stop bailing out your very good buddies in failing finance companies and put some of the money in to reversing the early childhood education cuts. That will reduce the price pain.

In fact, why not just stop screwing up the economy in general. Stop under investing in productive assets like the super fund. Stop strangling the recovery by cutting expenditure and driving up unemployment. Stop threatening to sell long term productive assets for short term gain. Stop the financial bungling that is driving us to an all time record budget deficit. I reckon that will reduce the price pain.

Engineers sometimes use the phrase “broken by design”. John Key’s National government is helpless by design. There’s plenty that they could be doing to assist the ever increasing number of Kiwis who are struggling with rising costs. It’s not that they can’t help. It’s that they won’t.

Update: Don’t miss RobC’s comment @ 4.

108 comments on “Can’t help won’t help ”

  1. PeteG 1

    Raising the minimum wage will also raise wages above that which will push up costs and prices and inflation which will bring pressure on raising minimum wages which will…

    • … also increase disposable income amongst the poorer who will then buy better food and clothing thereby improving business conditions for local businesses who will employ more people who will then spend more …

      PeteG  we have a government who is loving seeing wages drop.  Do you have a skerret of proof that this is helping the economy?

    • IrishBill 1.2

      There’s an easy fix for that, Pete. Tax the wage-inflation out at the top end. Problem solved.

      • PeteG 1.2.1

        Taxing more at the top end won’t limit wages or costs, if anything it may push them up even more. Anyway, most businesses are small and medium sized, and will have few if any top bracket incomes.
        If wage costs go up prices will go up, as will inflation. It’s a fairly simple principle to understand.

        • Colonial Viper

          What a load of bollocks
          So if we want inflation to fall to 0% how much should we cut the minimum wage by PeteG?
          Especially when you consider that Key and English have been bleating on about how all these price rises are due to exogenous effects? (not wage levels)
          Oh doesn’t work that way does it? Except when you are running your wage suppression routine.
          Funny how you never mentioned before how big tax cuts for the top 10% of earners would be inflationary.
          Working against your fellow countrymen, you are a little shit

          • RobC

            Beat me to it CV. PeteG your argument is overly-simplistic, even by your own standards.

            The far bigger problem to perhaps ponder is prices are going up despite low/zero wage growth.

            Or, to put it another way, how much would petrol increase if the minimum wage was lifted to $15/hr?

            • Colonial Viper

              Heh gotta be fast in this game mate 🙂
              Actually its a team effort and nice having you on the team 🙂

            • PeteG

              Of course price rises with low wage growth is the problem now.
              If there was higher wage growth price rises would be more of a problem – on top of things like unrelated petrol price increases (I thought you would have known that).

              • Colonial Viper

                Don;t be a condescending shit

                Of course price rises with low wage growth is the problem now.

                No, Mr Economics Brainiac, this is not the problem now, this is merely the symptom.

                The problem now is that your best mates Key and English, both of whom think you are a resource to be used and discarded, have placed NZ in the unenviable economic position of stagflation.

                Also you are a little creep for thinking that inflation is a real problem, when in fact hungry kids and cold families are the real problem.
                And if certain sectors of the market insist on profiteering while delivering no additional value, simply slap them with punitive tax rates until they behave.

          • infused

            It’s quite simple really. Min wage goes up, prices go up. Slim margins out there boys and girls. It’s just a circle.

            • McFlock

              Actually, it’s a velodrome.
              There are two cyclists on the velodrome, one called “wages” and another called “prices”. The farther wages pull ahead of prices, the better off we are. But prices then pedals harder to try to catch up.
              And the faster they both go the greater the chance of an accident.
              At the moment, prices are moving sluggishly forward but are still pulling away from wages. As the gap widens, we are worse off. The GST increase and other government policies give prices a shove, but hold down wages. This is good for the 1%ers. Sucks to everyone else. What the rest of us need is a government that will encourage wages to pedal harder, but also know when to slow both riders down so there’s not a huge crash.

              • Drakula

                McFlock that is a very good analogy and it is probably the best way of teaching economics to folk like me.

                So what you are saying is that the Nat/Act are 100% for the 1% I am all for higher wages, but the wages could be static and the working man could have a much higher standard of living if the speculative market at the top end is reigned in.

                As Irish Bill suggests tax the top 10%

                My analogy here is a pack of cards; even before the quakes rental accommodation in Christchurch was unaffordable because of the lack of accommodation.

                The Green Party want to put a Capital Gains Tax  on say the top 5% of the developers, that money can then be shuffled down to build state housing thereby providing affordable accommodation.

                • McFlock

                  Anyone who says that Key is putting the interests of the majority of NZers ahead of his own should explain how this fits in with the tax cut of $thousands he gave himself while the bulk of NZ (i.e. the poor and working poor) are worse off. So yeah, he favours the 1% over everyone else (coincidentally “1%er” is the expression some bikers use to describe themselves as outside the laws and behaviours of decent society. Notably the criminal biker gangs.).
                  As for the Greens, if they are looking at a capital gains tax do they have a reason to distinguish between “top 5% property developers” and any owner of a property they don’t live in but rent to others? If not then it’s a straw policy to be bartered away.

    • The Voice of Reason 1.3

      Er, no. Lifting the minimum wage has no effect on wage rates above the minimum. There is no linkage between the two things at all, Pete. Check the detail on your talking points email, there’ll be better arguments than that to use.

      • PeteG 1.3.1

        I presume you mean above the new minimum, if the minimum was raised to $15 per hour then at the very least you have increased substantially the number of people earning the minimum.
        But maybe you’re right, unions with workers now on the new minimum wage would be happy to just stay at the bottom and not try and push above it. No incentive to be more productive wouldn’t be a problem either. The employment gulag.

        • Colonial Viper

          Minimum wage should be at least $16/hr. That will begin to resemble a living wage.
          Also workers should have 5 weeks holidays annually.
          And dont be fucking stupid, managers and CEOs have far greater power over increasing “workplace productivity” than the person manning the checkout.
          Higher wages will force managers and CEOs to actually use people productively instead of using them like serf labour.

          Advocating for a country full of cheap wage slaves, shame on you

          • RobC

            C’mon CV – cheap wages gives us a competitive advantage. Get with the times. 😀

            • Colonial Viper

              Did I mention that both men and women should have access to 20 weeks maternity/paternity leave? That’ll soak up a bit more of that excess labour pool as well as helping families better bond with their young children.

          • PeteG

            Shame on you for advocating for a wage/price spiral – inflation hurts those on lower wages more than anyone.
            Shame on you for advocating for even more young and unskilled workers to be shut out of getting into the workforce.
            I think high end incomes have become obscenely high. I’d like to see low income workers and most beneficiaries have more money. But simplistic measures with adverse flow on effects is a stupid approach.

            • Colonial Viper

              LOL mate you have no understanding of economics, didn’t you hear English and Key, inflation we are seeing now is EXOGENOUS not INDOGENOUS
              Or are you calling them liars?
              Shame on you for working for the wealthy against the worse off!

              Shame on you for advocating for even more young and unskilled workers to be shut out of getting into the workforce.

              They can always go to Australia mate, a country which looks after its workers and knows how to keep talent.
              You are laughable

            • felix

              Pete Whatshisface: “simplistic measures with adverse flow on effects is a stupid approach.”
              Like massively cutting taxes for the richest people in society while simultaneously raising the cost of all goods and services for everybody.

            • Draco T Bastard

              …inflation hurts those on lower wages more than anyone.

              Nope, inflation most hurts those with money in the bank.
              And there’s an easy way to preclude the, supposed (it’s never been proven to exist), wage/price spiral – enact legislation that forces wages up at the rate of the CPI every quarter or, even better, every 6 weeks.

          • infused

            Yes, because it’s hard enough paying 4 weeks out now eh? Fuck 5 weeks.

            • Colonial Viper

              Five weeks annual leave, and we need another stat day in the second half of the year.
              And don’t forget that Anzac day is getting Mondayised.

        • The Voice of Reason

          Doh! You can’t even remember your own argument, pete. It was you that said lifting ther minimum would have an effect on the wages above it. It’s comment 1 on this thread, go back and have a look. Idiot.

          • PeteG

            That was a sarcastic comment. Would it help if I highlighted any sarcasm?

            • The Voice of Reason

              Well, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, so I suppose it’s appropriate for someone as humour deprived as yourself, pete. Still, it’s nice that you acknowlege that you make shit up for effect.

    • ianmac 1.4

      Pete. There is evidence that raising the minimum wage does not have a noticeable effect on unemployment. Read the stats recently but don’t know where. Your comment is simply a NAct call of misdirection.

      • PeteG 1.4.1

        What are the stats on the effects of raising the minimum wage by 15-25% during the worst recession in nearly a century?

        • felix

          I don’t know, why don’t you just make something up like you usually do. Then we can waste our time handing you your ass all day.

        • Draco T Bastard

          Well, research suggests it would increase employment. Well, that’s what’s happened elsewhere when the minimum wages were increased.

          • PeteG

            DTB’s link on increasing minimum wages closes with this:

            Most studies have found that the entire net effect of an increase in minimum wage results in a slight decrease in employment. A 10 percent increase would most likely lead to only a 1 percent reduction in employment….
            Over 24 cities throughout the United States have enacted a livable wage requirement, in order that people are able to meet their basic needs, such as food, shelter, heat, and clothing. This requirement has resulted in a minor cost increase for employers and a 2.2 percent decrease in employment.

            “Only” 1% and 2.2% decreases in employment? Even in NZ that’s a lot of people out of work.

            • Draco T Bastard

              The whole point is that it’s not cut and dried. ATM, I’d say increasing minimum wages in NZ would increase employment because it would increase demand.
              Nice to see you focussing on that bit which reinforces your ideology though.

  2. illuminatedtiger 2

    And yet many NZ voters are still taking it, “Please Sir, may I have another?”. About time they woke up.

  3. joe90 3

    The owner of an Auckland cleaning company admits that his staff are worse off than they ever were and laments that if he were to raise his workers minimum wage larger companies would force him out of business.

    Of course Laidlaw missed the opportunity to remind the owner that the employees of the larger company will earn the higher minimum wage and that the only loss would be his and his profit margin.

  4. RobC 4

    From John Key’s 2008 State of the Nation address:

    Well, I’ve got a challenge for the Prime Minister.  Before she asks for another three years, why doesn’t she answer the questions Kiwis are really asking, like:
    … why are grocery and petrol prices going through the roof?

    Nice to see after nearly three years in charge he’s found the answer:

    It’s something “the Government could do little about”

    Some other gems from 2008:

    “When the going gets this tough, is it any wonder that Kiwis look longingly at our Aussie cousins?  Our Aussie cousins, who get paid a third more than us for doing the same job.”

    “My message to Kiwis is that under National you will come first – not the fanciful whims of big-spending Ministers who have long since stopped worrying about how to make ends meet.”

  5. Colonial Viper 5

    New Zealanders: Abandoned by the National Government.

    LAB – you have got to attack National’s completely wrong headed free-market neoliberalism, an economic philosophy which has been proven to be wrong time and time again over the last 30 years, and which has been driven by the very wealthy to become even richer.

    • RobC 5.1

      All Labour need to do is get Key’s sound bites from the 2008 election campaign and line them up against his comments since and let people see for themselves the duplicity. Ain’t that hard to find them.

  6. Colonial Viper 6

    by the way, economists have no idea how to generate inflation, so PeteG is talking out of the wrong hole when he claims that he knows anything about it.
    Notice how he didn’t claim that tax cuts of $80/week plus for high earners would be inflationary?
    Because increases in take home pay are not.

    • PeteG 6.1

      You’re sounding very confused or confusing. Probably both.
      Increases in take home pay are not directly inflationary.
      Increases in wage costs in businesses (and SOEs) are inflationary.
      You don’t need to be an economist to understand that.

      • Colonial Viper 6.1.1

        You’re sounding like a science ficition man
        All you are doing is suppressing wages for the many and saying its Ok for the rich to get higher and higher incomes
        If businesses can’t deal with higher wage costs, they should fail.

        BTW: 99.5% of economists know jackshit why are you still kowtowing to them

        • infused

          Such a simple man CV. The world doesn’t work that way.

          • Draco T Bastard

            The world doesn’t work the way the neo-liberal economists say nor how the psychopaths in NACT say.

          • Colonial Viper

            You are right infused, I am a simple man.
            Because I’ve taken a long hard look at where all your bullshit Nobel-prize winning mathematised free market economic theories have got us:
            Deep in an economic hole with no way up, with John Key and Bill English pissing on our heads calling it “trickle down” and asking us to be “grateful”.

  7. Bill 7

    Can’t put in price controls without running foul of legal fish hooks in those stupid ‘free trade’ deals.
    Can’t raise wages etc, ’cause that would be betraying the people and institutions of ‘globalisation’. And the proponents of globalisation are who really matter to governments (both Labour led and National led). Still.
    Anyway. From the ‘proper’ perspective, the economy isn’t being screwed up. It is bleeding out just nice and pooling just fine below where international financiers and institutions meet.
    We (the likes of you and I) are here to sustain the privilege and power of those elites. And thanks to globalisation, the level of power and privilege enjoyed by elites is no longer determined or contained within the relative positioning of ‘their’ country’s national economy in an international context of competing economies. And so, neither is poverty and hardship.
    Remember how ‘you and I’ enjoyed a certain level of prosperity on the back of the ‘third world’ being bled dry when the ‘third world’ was ‘over there’? Previous generations ( depending on their place of birth) did quite well out of that arrangement. But today every country is increasingly viewed as having a ‘third world’ component and a ‘first world’ component.
    So ask yourself. What did those with their hands on the levers of power do to alleviate the circumstances of those in the ‘third world’ when the ‘third world’ was demarcated by geographical location? And what do you expect them to do now that the ‘third world’ is demarcated by ones position in society no matter where in the world one’s society is located?

    • r0b 7.1

      Uncomfortable truths Bill.  You should get back to writing the odd post or two – you’ve got one right there I reckon.

      • Bill 7.1.1

        Haven’t given up on writing posts r0b. Just been too busy this past wee while. Truth be told, I shouldn’t be spending time commenting at the moment.
        Thanks for the encouragement. I’ll be back to posting anon.

    • Bright Red 7.2

      well, we can’t put price controls on petrol because if we do then the oil importers won’t be able to afford to buy the oil from overseas to make it.
      We don’t make enough oil to supply our needs, therefore, we have to pay the price that others are willing to sell it to us for. And that’s the world price.

      • higherstandard 7.2.1

        But we do put indirect price controls on petrol.

        National Land Transport Fund tax
        ACC motor Vehicle account
        Local Authorities Fuel tax 
        Petroleum or Engine Fuels Monitoring levy 
        ETS charge 

        and then GST on top

        • Bright Red

          that’s not what a price control is.
          If we get rid of the taxation on petrol then either we have to raise more revenue somehwere else in the economy, cut more spending, or borrow more.
          I prefer to tax the stuff that’s killing the planet, myself.

  8. PeteG 8

    We (the likes of you and I) are here to sustain the privilege and power of those elites.

    And we (the likes of you and I) willingly sustain the privilege and power of those elites by taking on more debt than we need to and paying excessive interest, and by buying far more stuff than we need, often with money borrowed off the elites.

    One of our biggest problems is expecting government to fix all our problems while we blindly continue over consuming, absolving ourselves of any responsibility.

    • Bill 8.1

      I don’t see that we willingly sustain the people who control all the resources and who control the distribution of those resources and who will violently defend their ‘right’ to do so.
      And mainstream modes of communication and information don’t exactly over run us with discussion or analysis of possible alternatives.
      The earth is flat. And everything is in it’s rightful, natural  place.

    • uke 8.2

      …by buying far more stuff than we need…

      Agree with this bit. But isn’t the global economy based on consumer capitalism? And aren’t we constantly told that if consumer spending contracted, the whole shebang might come tumbling down?

      Tocqueville was probably right when he identified materialism as the central value in a modern democracy, the one measure of success that everybody could respect and aspire too. Unfortunately, he also seems to have assumed that economic growth could be unending and infinite.

      • PeteG 8.2.1

        And aren’t we constantly told that if consumer spending contracted, the whole shebang might come tumbling down?

        Yes, that’s the bind we are in.
        Waiting for and expecting governments to wake up and do something about it means we will all sleepwalk to eventual disaster, we just aren\’t sure which generation will hit the wall.

        Revolutionary ideas and actions don’t come from governments. They come from the people, when they see a big enough need or a forced into forcing something diferent.

        • Puddleglum

          PeteG! You’re a closet revolutionary. Me too, though I vacillate between keeping the ‘r’ there and taking it out.

          The problem with hoping for an ‘evolutionary’ (incrementalist/gradualist) approach is that it involves knowingly consigning large numbers of people to considerable suffering for an indeterminate length of time. You could only do that if you had some surety that ‘all’s well that ends well’ or are able to let yourself off the moral hook of doing something now (as clumsy and hamfisted as those attempts might seem, in a technical sense).

          The problem, of course, with hoping for a revolutionary approach is what economists smugly call ‘unintended consequences’, such as co-option of the revolution for other purposes. They point out that there’s a danger of simply ‘shifting’ the suffering (Pareto optimality and all that). Well, distributing suffering more widely (and thinly) sounds pretty good to me.

          The fact is that the history of life on this planet involves both revolution and evolution, completely interwoven to the point where it’s pretty hard to disentangle.

          I’ve come to the conclusion that I can’t personally consign people to suffering if I am, now, able to respond to it (i.e., I see myself as ‘response-able’ in relation to the suffering – that’s the kind of ‘personal responsibility’ I’m hot on). I might make mistakes (‘unintended consequences’) but, if I’m still focused on relieving suffering, I’ll respond quickly to remedy them as best as I can.

          In a democracy (of limited sorts), part of that response is to cast my vote in particular ways. And I admit that I make my own judgments about ‘suffering’. Someone on a high income might ‘suffer’ when they are taxed more, but there’s suffering and then there’s suffering. We can’t eradicate all suffering but we can work, together, to alleviate its most egregious forms.

          That’s why I’m less concerned about the size of the pie (and ‘growing’ it) and far more concerned about how it is distributed, both in terms of material well-being and power (which are two sides to the same coin). In fact, if evolution is any indication, growth that doesn’t arise from a reasonably stable arrangement of ‘parts’, each getting what they need, is very unstable growth (e.g., cancer, population explosions and collapses).

          I’m looking for some sort of hybrid (r)evolutionary approach, but – as the song goes – I still haven’t found what I’m looking for.

          Then again, a social democratic option seems like the best on offer, at present. Get that underway, in a 21st century form, and who knows what might evolve (or what revolutions it might trigger)?

    • Colonial Viper 8.3

      One of our biggest problems is expecting government to fix all our problems while we blindly continue over consuming, absolving ourselves of any responsibility.

      1) We expect Govt not to add to the problems of the Many while helping out the Few. Someone should tell National.
      2) Many are getting into higher debt because of price asset speculation by the rich, and because they are not being paid enough to enjoy the higher standards of living they have been come to expect.
      3) Responsibility for the Poor, largesse for the Rich: more of the same eh PeteG?

      PeteG pays lip service to not increasing wealth inequality in NZ but of course that is what his Masters are hard at work accomplishing

      • infused 8.3.1

        1) We expect Govt not to add to the problems of the Many while helping out the Few. Someone should tell National.

        They are not adding to the problems.

        2) Many are getting into higher debt because of price asset speculation by the rich, and because they are not being paid enough to enjoy the higher standards of living they have been come to expect.

        How is price and asset speculation a National problem? It’s being driven from overseas.

        • Colonial Viper

          1) National blew inflation out with GST increases that they decided. That’s National’s problem.
          2) National kowtows to free market ideology and is happy to let foreigners do the driving from overseas. That’s National’s problem.

          • Jim Nald

            Aaahhh, is that what Nationals’ hands-off free market ideology is about?
            They take Kiwi taxpayers’ hands off
            And get foreigners do the driving

            Guess who said this:
            “I always felt I had a stake in New Zealand. I saw a ladder to take me higher and I made my own way up the rungs.”

            Yeah right. Now we don’t have a stake in New Zealand, thanks to you kicking away the ladder.

  9. Steve Withers 9

    PeteG: National normally resorts to wage supression combined with higher unemployment (to maintain wage suppression). Unemployment always goes up when National is in office. It can’t be regarded as an accident. The problem they have now is costs are rising, wages are static…and taxes can’t rise to meet inflation. So they cut spending…and wages stay flat and tax revenue falls…..and so on. It’s a death spiral. Paul Krugman talks about it a lot…and the evidence he is correct is everywhere to be seen. 

    • PeteG 9.1

      National took office this time as the biggest financial shock since the Great Depression hit, resulting in an increase in unemployment. Unemployment also increased in many other countries – like the US where a leftish President had just taken over. You can’t reasonably blame National for increased unemployment this time.
      You can argue that there may have been a smaller increase in unempoyment if National had reacted differently, or if Labour had remained in power, but that’s all hypothetical. If Labour had remained in power and put the minimum wage up to $15 unempoyment would most likely have increased more, and more businesses would probably have failed (also increasing unemployment).

      • felix 9.1.1

        Hypothetical? Everything in your last sentence is hypothetical, and furthermore based on untested hypothesis. Essentially pure opinion.
        Unlike “unemployment always goes up when National is in office” which is a statement of empirical fact.

        • infused

          Except it’s not fact this time.

          • felix

            Unemployment hasn’t gone up under National but somehow infused is the only person in the country who knows it.

            • McFlock

              That’s not a demonstrated fact – at the moment it’s a “nil comprehension” hypothesis…

      • ianmac 9.1.2

        PeteG: “If Labour had remained in power and put the minimum wage up to $15 unempoyment would most likely have increased more, and more businesses would probably have failed (also increasing unemployment).”

        That has been proven recently to be not so. In spite of constant calls from Key/English that what you say is true, the research published recently shows minimal effect on unemployment and that many social advantages flow on from higher min wages north of $15 per hour as in Australia. (Someone else must have read that research in last week or so?)

      • Draco T Bastard 9.1.3

        National took office this time as the biggest financial shock since the Great Depression hit,

        And that great big shock was caused by the same method as the Great Depression – Laissez-faire or what we now call neo-liberalism. Hell, the US government even cut taxes on the rich just a few years before (in 1925 to be precise) the stock market crash of 1929 and for the same reason that Jonkey and NACT cut taxes on the rich this time – to “boost” growth. I think we can be pretty certain that the same thing will happen again – another depression.
        Giving all the wealth to the rich always results in the economy collapsing.

      • Colonial Viper 9.1.4

        and put the minimum wage up to $15 unempoyment would most likely have increased more, and more businesses would probably have failed (also increasing unemployment).

        Businesses and business owners who can’t hack it in the market place SHOULD FAIL and make room for better companies and managers.
        Its a simple law of the market economy.
        Oh, except when John Key and Bill English ride in on white stallions, wasting hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars on bailouts, socialising the losses of the wealthy.

  10. Anthony 10

    Key can pretty much say whatever he wants at the moment….

  11. mikesh 11

    Agree with this bit. But isn’t the global economy based on consumer capitalism? And aren’t we constantly told that if consumer spending contracted, the whole shebang might come tumbling down?

    We seem to be on a treadmill in which we have to keep on consuming in order to stave off depressions. At one time Labour espoused socialism, which would have involved using the resources of the state, which doesn’t imply state ownership, to promote economic activity so as to ensure that there would be enough for everybody.

    • uke 11.1

      Aside from the matter of how wealth is distributed, there is a dangerous assumption that seems to inform by liberal capitalism and (traditional) socialism: the unquestioned value of growth and progress. That everything is on an unstoppable escalator to an ever bigger and better “future”. Or rather than Bigger is the only Better. Whether private or state-owned.

      On RNZ last night, there was an excellent BBC doco about the future of energy. One interviewee proposed that all economic growth to this point in history has been built on the presumption of unlimited energy supply and a cost of energy production always economical viz demand. Now that accessible energy is increasingly insecure, we will have to find a new driver for the growth of human civilisation. And there are no obvious alternatives. (The interviewer rather lamely suggested “imagination”.) Finally, the guy said, we will probably have to learn to live in no-growth economies.

      The mainstream Left must address this difficult challenge. Unfortunately, it would seem from current polls that NZ voters are in a form of denial called “aspiration” or “I want to be like John Key”, which makes this an uninviting prospect.

  12. Afewknowthetruth 12

    Bill outlined most of the pertinent points. The ‘good old days’ were a product of stealing resources from poor nations and transferring the wealth to rich nations.

    What Bill omitted to say is that the world is now running out of easily extractable resources  – copper, phosphate rock, oil, good quality coal, fish, old forest timber, fresh water, and a mulitude of others, and even soil is being lost at a phenomenal rate in many parts of the world. Meanwhile the world population keeps going up, meaning we have more people chasing declining resources, especially food. It’s a no win game for most people on this planet, but the elites will manage to make handsome profits from the predicament we are in. Key and his buddies are just part of the international looting gang, of course.  

    The entire economic system is funadamentally flawed and is progressing towards the point of complete collapse. During the lead up to complete collapse we should anticipate ever more resouirce wars, higher prices for practically everything and a stampede to ‘loot the till’ amongst the elites.  

    Needless to say, the Labour movement will continue to ignore all the elephants in the room -peak oil, climate instability, species extinction, acidification of the oceans etc.- and pretend they can do so much better by tweaking the system slightly. 

    We actually need a complete rethink. However, the general public are so grossly uninformed/misinformed they keep voting for ‘dinosurs’, and most candidates are both uninformed and gutless.

    These are ‘interesting times’ in the sense of the Chinese curse: ‘May you live in interesting times’.

    This will all end very badly, I’m afraid.

  13. randal 13

    the economic prospects for this country were outlined in the world bank report of 1968.
    nothing has changed.
    every change of government just brings a new gang of manques looking for preferment and patronage and pandering to the electorate.
    there is no limit to the STUFF that governments promise and the degree of resentment and hostility it can encourage to keep itself inpower by organising immature differences among the sections of society.
    I hesitate to call them classes because in the long run we are all peasants growing food for rich people somewhere else.
    to keep the system going is the tricky bit without causing a meltdwon in social cohesion.
    Key figures at the moment that he can afford to ignore the poor but his day is coming.
    meanwhile its flat out promising overseas trips at a discount, leaf blowers, happy places, angle grinders, orbital sanders, and crap teevee, etc etc etc ad naseum.
    it doesnt have to do anything else.

  14. Draco T Bastard 14

    Stop the financial bungling that is driving us to an all time record budget deficit.

    It’s not financial bungling – John Key and the NACTS are doing the damage to the economy on purpose so as to transfer our wealth into their and their rich mates hands.

  15. joe90 15

    sigh…. the great global financial crash was so bad that U.S execs were rewarded with an average 23% pay rise..poor lambs..

    In 2010, Standard & Poor’s 500 Index company CEOs received, on average, $11.4 million in total compensation.[1] Based on 299 companies’ most recent pay data for 2010, their combined total CEO pay of $3.4 billion could support 102,325 median workers’ jobs.[2]

    • PeteG 15.1

      That points to one of our biggest problems – no matter what great ideas we might come up with here in New Zealand to establish a more equitable and sustainable society we are likely to get dragged down by the financial and consumer and political mess of the US regardless. If other parts of the world don’t stuff things before then.
      Is every society that grows destined to boom and bust?
      Can we invent something more important than replacement energy sources – a sustainable society plateau. It would require a major mindset overhaul.
      Or do we just shrug our shoulders and carry on, hoping it won’t crash completely while we are still alive.

      • The Voice of Reason 15.1.1

        There is a name for what you propose, pete. Socialism. A planned economy is central to all left wing economics and the key to avoiding the boom/bust cycle. Welcome to the revolution, comrade, it’s great to have you aboard.

        • PeteG

          The problem is, Socialism hasn’t worked successfully anywhere yet. Apart from the ideological arguments, there is one serious flaw – human nature.
          That can be split into three things – greed, laziness, power.
          Humans are not wired to live happily with everyone putting in and taking out equal amounts without anyone trying to exert control.

          • The Voice of Reason

            Again, you are very very wrong. Apart from the last 250 years, most human society has been extremely co-operative. Until the advent of the industrial revolution, most communities (families, tribes, villages) had a fair division of labour and spoils. The ultimate sanction for the lazy, greedy or power hungry was expulsion from the group.  

            • PeteG

              Co-operative? Like, if the peasants co-operate they won’t starve or suffer too much?
              Village societies were often co-operative but still with uneven levels of society. For all of known human history there has been a tendency for there to be leading classes. Some people want to lead, most people want to be led.

              • Colonial Viper

                Yeah buddy but show me the society where people want their leaders to eat $7000 suppers, and their poor followers to eat cat food.

          • Bill

            PeteG. Does it not cross your mind that the economic system we operate within rewards selfishness and greed and so encourages those facets of human nature to come to the fore?
            And does it not cross your mind that the economic system we operate within offers no tangible reward for selflessness and altruism and so discourages those facets of human nature?
            And so does it not cross your mind that over time with a skewed system of reward that more and more people elevate undesirable aspects of human nature within themselves because that is what is required to be a ‘successful’ person in our current economic context or even to merely survive in some degree of material comfort?

            • PeteG

              We have also generally rewarded power and status for a long time too.
              It’s a programmed mindset – but it’s not universal* and presumably not irreversible.
              * I know I’m not the only one who is happy to live comfortably but basically rather than aspire to richness (which has plenty of it’s own down sides)
              * I’m not entirely selfish, although I guess being selfless could ultimately be a form of selfishness, depends on what pushes ones buttons
              * I don’t seek power over others, nor do I go ga-ga at the sight of the powerful, the celebrities, the rich, I’m more likley to scoff at the limitations of their high bubbles

              • Probably one of Richard Dawkins’ most unfortunate legacies that remains as a tarry residue in popular understandings of the evolutionary bases of human nature is the idea that humans are essentially selfish. He came to regret the famous passage in the Selfish Gene where he claimed that those – like him – looking to establish a cooperative society will receive no help from nature:

                I hope that takes care of the more serious misunderstandings. Nevertheless, I do with hindsight notice lapses of my own on the very same subject. These are to be found especially in Chapter 1, epitomised by the sentence ‘Let us try to teach generosity and altruism because we are born selfish’. There is nothing wrong with teaching generosity and altruism, but ‘born selfish’ is misleading.

                It’s actually a big leap from understanding the logic of natural selection to claiming that humans are, by their nature, selfish, lazy, etc.. There’s more than one way to skin a cat and natural selection has explored a number of those ways when it comes to humans. 

                He even suggests an alternative title:

                Another good alternative to The Selfish Gene would have been The Cooperative Gene. It sounds paradoxically opposite, but a central part of the book argues for a form of cooperation among self-interested genes.”

                Cooperation is just another way of achieving replication. But notice that doesn’t make the people who cooperate ‘selfish’ – it makes them cooperative.

                Our emotional make up (e.g., the good feelings we get from helping others – in fact that’s one of the surest ways to boost your ‘subjective well-being’; feelings of gratitude, etc.) testifies to the extremely natural predisposition we have to be cooperative and contribute to society. That it is based on a metaphorically ‘selfish’ process (natural selection) is neither here nor there.

                • The link for the above quotes is here.

                • PeteG

                  “The Cooperative Gene” sounds fine to me, that’s important in small groups, to village level anyway. But competition for resources brings “The Competitve Gene” into play, inter-village, inter-region, inter-country.
                  Modern satellite societies are far removed from the co-operative village level, therefore competition dominates, for possessions, for status, for partners, on the road, in education, in the workplace, on blogs etc.
                  If that is a reasonable assumption then the continued massing of populations into more congested but more impersonal living conditions means competition will override co-operation more and more.
                  Is it simply a natural inclination or can something turn us back to co-operation?

                  • Bill

                    If we had an economy that promoted cooperation and that was structured in such a way that competition became a liability rather than an asset, then yes. No problem.
                    The idea that resources are, or become a focus of competition is true only insofar as resource use and distribution is controlled by market mechanisms. And market mechanisms are intrinsically competitive.

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      The idea that resources are, or become a focus of competition is true only insofar as resource use and distribution is controlled by market mechanisms.

                      Resources also become a source of “competition” once they become scarce. The over population of the world together with the natural over-use of resources that the profit driven free-market encourages creates far more scarcity and pushes this conflict further into war. Cooperation along with strict population controls could eliminate this excess resource use as we would be able to live within the Renewable Resource Base.

                • MrSmith

                  I would argue the reason we cooperate is because we now understand that there is more benefit to ourselves by doing so, meaning we are basically selfish. So we cooperate because we are selfish.

                  • Colonial Viper

                    The English language is so imprecise.
                    If I dig a well for the village so my family has fresh water every day – but so do all the other villagers – is that being selfish? Or is it being generous?
                    Basically people have complex motives.
                    But the motive to put others down in order to elevate oneself – that’s a very Right Wing one.

                    • MrSmith

                      Agreed mostly CV, but the person that dug the well will generally receive some status for his/her deed. Yes the community is better off so the well digger is better off. so it was a selfish act after all to my mind.

                    • felix

                      Mr Smith,

                      A truly selfish well-digger would put down his well so as to drain water away from the wells of others and toward his own.
                      This gives him an advantage over his fellow citizens. He gets more/better quality water for himself while others have to make do with less – unless they want to buy some of course.
                      He has made his own life more luxurious at the expense of others, a reality which he expresses as “I dug it all by myself with no handouts or help.”

                      OTOH what you describe is “selfish” only in the sense that your self interest is aligned with that of your neighbours, not in competition with them. Which is quite a different animal really.

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      That’s incorrect felix. What a truly selfish “well-digger” would do is get someone else to dig it then charge them for drinking from it. They’d also surround the well with razor wire and sue anyone else that put down a well.

                  • Mr Smith, as I pointed out above, the way that nature (in some structural settings) gets us to survive and reproduce better is actually to make us genuinely altruistic/cooperative. That is, the motive of the individual person is to cooperate. Incidentally, that leads to us, as individuals, doing better. Notice that the motive can be genuinely altruistic, but the outcome can meet self-interest. Don’t confuse those levels in making generalisations about the motives of people.

                    [Aside: This is what Adam Smith got wrong in his example of the brewer, baker, etc. doing things out of their own interest. (If evolutionary theory had been around in its present form, I have no doubt he would have modified that comment along the lines of Dawkins’ ‘retraction’ I mentioned above. After all, Adam Smith was a good thinker and quite an honest one too.)]

                    So, nothing about human nature (as a set of motives, behavioural dispositions, emotions, etc.) suggests that people are selfish, fundamentally. All it means is that we will tend to act in ways that, in the social environment within which our species largely evolved, our basic interests as individuals (survival, reproduction) have the best chance of being met. That happens to be a ‘strategy’ of being psychologically inclined to genuine cooperativeness, given the right environmental ‘settings’.

                    What Bill has pointed out – and what is actually perfectly compatible with evolutionary thinking and multi-level selection theory – is that when material and social conditions are structured along the abstract lines of those that prevailed during much of our evolutionary history then cooperation will arise, ‘miraculously’, as a natural consequence of that environment.

                    You might also want to think about Marx’s famous phrase, ‘from each according to his ability, to each according to his need’. With a twist from evolutionary theory – and with Dawkins’ points in mind from that link – it could be understood as ‘cooperation from each individual, meeting the interests of each individual’. So long as the ‘alignment’ of interests works out, people will genuinely cooperate.

                    Our society doesn’t have that alignment. Neo-liberalism assumes that people are fundamentally and irremediably ‘selfish’. They aren’t. It’s just that in the socioeconomic system neo-liberalism has created, cooperation is very often not in the interests of individuals. Surprise, surprise, people therefore increasingly act as if they were fundamentally selfish. (This explains many things including issues that right-wngers are often concerned about, such as people supposedly expecting others to do everything for them. That attitude is consistent with neo-liberal self-interest.)

                    For most of our evolution, baseline cooperation worked for individuals. Since then, only the environment has changed.

                    • PeteG

                      Why do we tolerate so much arrogance/antagonism and competition in our politics then? Fundamental selfishness seems to be the norm.
                      I don’t know if wider society follows the selfish self righteousness of our politicians but I’m sure political blogs and blog posters do to an extent at least. That’s a shame.

                      “Can’t help won’t help” seems to be a common political motto.

          • Colonial Viper

            The problem is PeteG that free market neoliberalism hasn’t worked succesfully anywhere yet.
            Well, except if you are in the top 1% of rich pricks

            • MrSmith

              For some reason I can’t reply to felix so I will throw it on here CV.

              I never said the well digger was bigburv’s brother, I was trying to point out that the well digger received some reward for his/her actions and even if it was a selfless/nobel gesture will still benefit from the well, so weather the well digger likes it or not it was selfish in so far as he/her benefitted from it.
              My point was that we cooperate because we see the benefit in that for ourselves, apposed to not cooperating, now the well digger could then go and dig wells for other villages and in return the other villages could say build him a house or give him some food but essentially we cooperate because there is some benefit to ourselves, ourselves being selfish.

        • Bill

          “A planned economy is central to all left wing economics…”

          If by that you mean a centrally planned economy, then no. What you say isn’t true.

          And there are left wing economics that don’t merely reject central planning, but reject the market as a mechanism for determining resource use and distribution.

      • MrSmith 15.1.2

        Well there you go peteG is a closet socialist, there is hope for us yet.

  16. randal 16

    there is nothing that politicians like more than watching people beat their heads against a brickwall when they dont know how to operate the levers of power.
    its cheapa than going to the pickchas.
    Of course their is more the government could be doing but that means getting of their fat asses and doing some work instead of letting treasury call the shots and every proposal being given the once over by deloittes for social utility.
    welcome to the 21st century.

  17. rosy 17

    Full socialism hasn’t worked properly anywhere yet, maybe. But having a socialist agenda rather than a market-led one does have it’s advantages. For example take a quick look at this graph and see which countries are not bleeding out financially…. and the answer is – the ones that are most equal in wage distribution and the ones that are social-democrats.

    I’m living in one of them – apparently the 15th richest country in the world. I have to put up with shops not opening on Sundays and no huge supermarkets and some quite strict banking controls (a bit backward, don’t you think?) but in return unemployment is making worrying headlines at around 4% and workers have 5 weeks hols + the largest number of stats after Spain. Environmental initiatives are way ahead on NZ’s and there is a remarkable cultural life. What’s not to like? It makes me incredibly sad that we gave up on a social path just to be hip, cool and trendy in the neo-lib club.

    • ianmac 17.1

      Where are you Rosy?
      Interesting graph. I am going to Turkey in July and don’t understand why it is so high on the inequality list. Will think about it.
      Wonder if Mexico and Turkey are up there because they have a huge very very poor population?

      • rosy 17.1.1

        Yes, it’s interesting to have a little socio-ec background before visiting a new place, it helps get beyond the tourist traps. I’m in Austria – Vienna, for a couple of years – and it’s easy to see why it’s right up there in good places to live.

  18. Jenny 18

    It is not true that Key can not help those in need.

    When John Key was in dire need of a black tie dinner in Auckland and a car race in Hamilton, no taxpayers money was spared for an airforce helicopter to fly him about.

    No money for the public need. Key’s needs are much more important.

    In misusing public money to fund his privileged lifestyle, this elitist filth, shows his true colours.

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    Buzz from the Beehive The biggest buzz we bring you from the Beehive today is that the government’s official website is up and going after being out of action for more than a week. The latest press statement came  from  Education Minister  Eric Stanford, who seized on the 2022 PISA ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Failed again
    There was another ETS auction this morning. and like all the other ones this year, it failed to clear - meaning that 23 million tons of carbon (15 million ordinary units plus 8 million in the cost containment reserve) went up in smoke. Or rather, they didn't. Being unsold at ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell On The Government’s Assault On Maori
    This isn’t news, but the National-led coalition is mounting a sustained assault on Treaty rights and obligations. Even so, Christopher Luxon has described yesterday’s nationwide protests by Maori as “pretty unfair.” Poor thing. In the NZ Herald, Audrey Young has compiled a useful list of the many, many ways that ...
    5 days ago
  • Rising costs hit farmers hard, but  there’s more  positive news  for  them this  week 
    New Zealand’s dairy industry, the mainstay of the country’s export trade, has  been under  pressure  from rising  costs. Down on the  farm, this  has  been  hitting  hard. But there  was more positive news this week,  first   from the latest Fonterra GDT auction where  prices  rose,  and  then from  a  report ...
    Point of OrderBy tutere44
    5 days ago
  • ROB MacCULLOCH:  Newshub and NZ Herald report misleading garbage about ACT’s van Veldon not follo...
    Rob MacCulloch writes –  In their rush to discredit the new government (which our MainStream Media regard as illegitimate and having no right to enact the democratic will of voters) the NZ Herald and Newshub are arguing ACT’s Deputy Leader Brooke van Veldon is not following Treasury advice ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • Top 10 for Wednesday, December 6
    Even many young people who smoke support smokefree policies, fitting in with previous research showing the large majority of people who smoke regret starting and most want to quit. Photo: Lynn GrievesonTL;DR: Here’s my pick of the top 10 news and analysis links elsewhere on the morning of Wednesday, December ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Eleven years of work.
    Well it didn’t take six months, but the leaks have begun. Yes the good ship Coalition has inadvertently released a confidential cabinet paper into the public domain, discussing their axing of Fair Pay Agreements (FPAs).Oops.Just when you were admiring how smoothly things were going for the new government, they’ve had ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • Why we're missing out on sharply lower inflation
    A wave of new and higher fees, rates and charges will ripple out over the economy in the next 18 months as mayors, councillors, heads of department and price-setters for utilities such as gas, electricity, water and parking ramp up charges. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Just when most ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • How Did We Get Here?
    Hi,Kiwis — keep the evening of December 22nd free. I have a meetup planned, and will send out an invite over the next day or so. This sounds sort of crazy to write, but today will be Tony Stamp’s final Totally Normal column of 2023. Somehow we’ve made it to ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    5 days ago
  • At a glance – Has the greenhouse effect been falsified?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    6 days ago
  • New Zealaders  have  high expectations of  new  government:  now let’s see if it can deliver?
    The electorate has high expectations of the  new  government.  The question is: can  it  deliver?    Some  might  say  the  signs are not  promising. Protestors   are  already marching in the streets. The  new  Prime Minister has had  little experience of managing  very diverse politicians  in coalition. The economy he  ...
    Point of OrderBy tutere44
    6 days ago
  • You won't believe some of the numbers you have to pull when you're a Finance Minister
    Nicola of Marsden:Yo, normies! We will fix your cost of living worries by giving you a tax cut of 150 dollars. 150! Cash money! Vote National.Various people who can read and count:Actually that's 150 over a fortnight. Not a week, which is how you usually express these things.And actually, it looks ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    6 days ago
  • Pushback
    When this government came to power, it did so on an explicitly white supremacist platform. Undermining the Waitangi Tribunal, removing Māori representation in local government, over-riding the courts which had tried to make their foreshore and seabed legislation work, eradicating te reo from public life, and ultimately trying to repudiate ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Defence ministerial meeting meant Collins missed the Maori Party’s mischief-making capers in Parli...
    Buzz from the Beehive Maybe this is not the best time for our Minister of Defence to have gone overseas. Not when the Maori Party is inviting (or should that be inciting?) its followers to join a revolution in a post which promoted its protest plans with a picture of ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago
  • Threats of war have been followed by an invitation to join the revolution – now let’s see how th...
     A Maori Party post on Instagram invited party followers to ….  Tangata Whenua, Tangata Tiriti, Join the REVOLUTION! & make a stand!  Nationwide Action Day, All details in tiles swipe to see locations.  • This is our 1st hit out and tomorrow Tuesday the 5th is the opening ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • Top 10 for Tuesday, December 4
    The RBNZ governor is citing high net migration and profit-led inflation as factors in the bank’s hawkish stance. Photo: Lynn GrievesonTL;DR: Here’s my pick of the top 10 news and analysis links elsewhere on the morning of Tuesday, December 5, including:Reserve Bank Governor Adrian Orr says high net migration and ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Nicola Willis' 'show me the money' moment
    Willis has accused labour of “economic vandalism’, while Robertson described her comments as a “desperate diversion from somebody who can't make their tax package add up”. There will now be an intense focus on December 20 to see whether her hyperbole is backed up by true surprises. Photo montage: Lynn ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • CRL costs money but also provides huge benefits
    The City Rail Link has been in the headlines a bit recently so I thought I’d look at some of them. First up, yesterday the NZ Herald ran this piece about the ongoing costs of the CRL. Auckland ratepayers will be saddled with an estimated bill of $220 million each ...
    6 days ago
  • And I don't want the world to see us.
    Is this the most shambolic government in the history of New Zealand? Given that parliament hasn’t even opened they’ve managed quite a list of achievements to date.The Smokefree debacle trading lives for tax cuts, the Trumpian claims of bribery in the Media, an International award for indifference, and today the ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Cooking the books
    Finance Minister Nicola Willis late yesterday stopped only slightly short of accusing her predecessor Grant Robertson of cooking the books. She complained that the Half Yearly Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU), due to be made public on December 20, would show “fiscal cliffs” that would amount to “billions of ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    6 days ago
  • Most people don’t realize how much progress we’ve made on climate change
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The year was 2015. ‘Uptown Funk’ with Bruno Mars was at the top of the music charts. Jurassic World was the most popular new movie in theaters. And decades of futility in international climate negotiations was about to come to an end in ...
    7 days ago
  • Of Parliamentary Oaths and Clive Boonham
    As a heads-up, I am not one of those people who stay awake at night thinking about weird Culture War nonsense. At least so far as the current Maori/Constitutional arrangements go. In fact, I actually consider it the least important issue facing the day to day lives of New ...
    7 days ago
  • Bearing True Allegiance?
    Strong Words: “We do not consent, we do not surrender, we do not cede, we do not submit; we, the indigenous, are rising. We do not buy into the colonial fictions this House is built upon. Te Pāti Māori pledges allegiance to our mokopuna, our whenua, and Te Tiriti o ...
    7 days ago
  • You cannot be serious
    Some days it feels like the only thing to say is: Seriously? No, really. Seriously?OneSomeone has used their health department access to share data about vaccinations and patients, and inform the world that New Zealanders have been dying in their hundreds of thousands from the evil vaccine. This of course is pure ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    7 days ago
  • A promise kept: govt pulls the plug on Lake Onslow scheme – but this saving of $16bn is denounced...
    Buzz from the Beehive After $21.8 million was spent on investigations, the plug has been pulled on the Lake Onslow pumped-hydro electricity scheme, The scheme –  that technically could have solved New Zealand’s looming energy shortage, according to its champions – was a key part of the defeated Labour government’s ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    7 days ago
  • CHRIS TROTTER: The Maori Party and Oath of Allegiance
    If those elected to the Māori Seats refuse to take them, then what possible reason could the country have for retaining them?   Chris Trotter writes – Christmas is fast approaching, which, as it does every year, means gearing up for an abstruse general knowledge question. “Who was ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    7 days ago
  • BRIAN EASTON:  Forward to 2017
    The coalition party agreements are mainly about returning to 2017 when National lost power. They show commonalities but also some serious divergencies. Brian Easton writes The two coalition agreements – one National and ACT, the other National and New Zealand First – are more than policy documents. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Fossils
    When the new government promised to allow new offshore oil and gas exploration, they were warned that there would be international criticism and reputational damage. Naturally, they arrogantly denied any possibility that that would happen. And then they finally turned up at COP, to criticism from Palau, and a "fossil ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • GEOFFREY MILLER:  NZ’s foreign policy resets on AUKUS, Gaza and Ukraine
    Geoffrey Miller writes – New Zealand’s international relations are under new management. And Winston Peters, the new foreign minister, is already setting a change agenda. As expected, this includes a more pro-US positioning when it comes to the Pacific – where Peters will be picking up where he ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 week ago
  • Gordon Campbell on the government’s smokefree laws debacle
    The most charitable explanation for National’s behaviour over the smokefree legislation is that they have dutifully fulfilled the wishes of the Big Tobacco lobby and then cast around – incompetently, as it turns out – for excuses that might sell this health policy U-turn to the public. The less charitable ...
    1 week ago
  • Top 10 links at 10 am for Monday, December 4
    As Deb Te Kawa writes in an op-ed, the new Government seems to have immediately bought itself fights with just about everyone. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Here’s my pick of the top 10 news and analysis links elsewhere as of 10 am on Monday December 4, including:Palau’s President ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 week ago
  • Be Honest.
    Let’s begin today by thinking about job interviews.During my career in Software Development I must have interviewed hundreds of people, hired at least a hundred, but few stick in the memory.I remember one guy who was so laid back he was practically horizontal, leaning back in his chair until his ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 week ago
  • Geoffrey Miller: New Zealand’s foreign policy resets on AUKUS, Gaza and Ukraine
    New Zealand’s international relations are under new management. And Winston Peters, the new foreign minister, is already setting a change agenda. As expected, this includes a more pro-US positioning when it comes to the Pacific – where Peters will be picking up where he left off. Peters sought to align ...
    Democracy ProjectBy Geoffrey Miller
    1 week ago
  • Auckland rail tunnel the world’s most expensive
    Auckland’s city rail link is the most expensive rail project in the world per km, and the CRL boss has described the cost of infrastructure construction in Aotearoa as a crisis. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The 3.5 km City Rail Link (CRL) tunnel under Auckland’s CBD has cost ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 week ago
  • First big test coming
    The first big test of the new Government’s approach to Treaty matters is likely to be seen in the return of the Resource Management Act. RMA Minister Chris Bishop has confirmed that he intends to introduce legislation to repeal Labour’s recently passed Natural and Built Environments Act and its ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    1 week ago

  • COP28 National Statement for New Zealand
    Tēnā koutou katoa Mr President, Excellencies, Delegates. An island nation at the bottom of the Pacific, New Zealand is unique.          Our geography, our mountains, lakes, winds and rainfall helps set us up for the future, allowing for nearly 90 per cent of our electricity to come from renewable sources. I’m ...
    2 days ago
  • Ministers visit Hawke’s Bay to grasp recovery needs
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon joined Cyclone Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell and Transport and Local Government Minister Simeon Brown, to meet leaders of cyclone and flood-affected regions in the Hawke’s Bay. The visit reinforced the coalition Government’s commitment to support the region and better understand its ongoing requirements, Mr Mitchell says.  ...
    3 days ago
  • New Zealand condemns malicious cyber activity
    New Zealand has joined the UK and other partners in condemning malicious cyber activity conducted by the Russian Government, Minister Responsible for the Government Communications Security Bureau Judith Collins says. The statement follows the UK’s attribution today of malicious cyber activity impacting its domestic democratic institutions and processes, as well ...
    3 days ago
  • Disestablishment of Te Pūkenga begins
    The Government has begun the process of disestablishing Te Pūkenga as part of its 100-day plan, Minister for Tertiary Education and Skills Penny Simmonds says.  “I have started putting that plan into action and have met with the chair and chief Executive of Te Pūkenga to advise them of my ...
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change Minister to attend COP28 in Dubai
    Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will be leaving for Dubai today to attend COP28, the 28th annual UN climate summit, this week. Simon Watts says he will push for accelerated action towards the goals of the Paris Agreement, deliver New Zealand’s national statement and connect with partner countries, private sector leaders ...
    4 days ago
  • New Zealand to host 2024 Pacific defence meeting
    Defence Minister Judith Collins yesterday announced New Zealand will host next year’s South Pacific Defence Ministers’ Meeting (SPDMM). “Having just returned from this year’s meeting in Nouméa, I witnessed first-hand the value of meeting with my Pacific counterparts to discuss regional security and defence matters. I welcome the opportunity to ...
    4 days ago
  • Study shows need to remove distractions in class
    The Government is committed to lifting school achievement in the basics and that starts with removing distractions so young people can focus on their learning, Education Minister Erica Stanford says.   The 2022 PISA results released this week found that Kiwi kids ranked 5th in the world for being distracted ...
    4 days ago
  • Minister sets expectations of Commissioner
    Today I met with Police Commissioner Andrew Coster to set out my expectations, which he has agreed to, says Police Minister Mark Mitchell. Under section 16(1) of the Policing Act 2008, the Minister can expect the Police Commissioner to deliver on the Government’s direction and priorities, as now outlined in ...
    5 days ago
  • New Zealand needs a strong and stable ETS
    New Zealand needs a strong and stable Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) that is well placed for the future, after emission units failed to sell for the fourth and final auction of the year, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says.  At today’s auction, 15 million New Zealand units (NZUs) – each ...
    5 days ago
  • PISA results show urgent need to teach the basics
    With 2022 PISA results showing a decline in achievement, Education Minister Erica Stanford is confident that the Coalition Government’s 100-day plan for education will improve outcomes for Kiwi kids.  The 2022 PISA results show a significant decline in the performance of 15-year-old students in maths compared to 2018 and confirms ...
    6 days ago
  • Collins leaves for Pacific defence meeting
    Defence Minister Judith Collins today departed for New Caledonia to attend the 8th annual South Pacific Defence Ministers’ meeting (SPDMM). “This meeting is an excellent opportunity to meet face-to-face with my Pacific counterparts to discuss regional security matters and to demonstrate our ongoing commitment to the Pacific,” Judith Collins says. ...
    7 days ago
  • Working for Families gets cost of living boost
    Putting more money in the pockets of hard-working families is a priority of this Coalition Government, starting with an increase to Working for Families, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says. “We are starting our 100-day plan with a laser focus on bringing down the cost of living, because that is what ...
    7 days ago
  • Post-Cabinet press conference
    Most weeks, following Cabinet, the Prime Minister holds a press conference for members of the Parliamentary Press Gallery. This page contains the transcripts from those press conferences, which are supplied by Hansard to the Office of the Prime Minister. It is important to note that the transcripts have not been edited ...
    7 days ago
  • Lake Onslow pumped hydro scheme scrapped
    The Government has axed the $16 billion Lake Onslow pumped hydro scheme championed by the previous government, Energy Minister Simeon Brown says. “This hugely wasteful project was pouring money down the drain at a time when we need to be reining in spending and focussing on rebuilding the economy and ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ welcomes further pause in fighting in Gaza
    New Zealand welcomes the further one-day extension of the pause in fighting, which will allow the delivery of more urgently-needed humanitarian aid into Gaza and the release of more hostages, Foreign Minister Winston Peters said. “The human cost of the conflict is horrific, and New Zealand wants to see the violence ...
    1 week ago
  • Condolences on passing of Henry Kissinger
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters today expressed on behalf of the New Zealand Government his condolences to the family of former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who has passed away at the age of 100 at his home in Connecticut. “While opinions on his legacy are varied, Secretary Kissinger was ...
    1 week ago
  • Backing our kids to learn the basics
    Every child deserves a world-leading education, and the Coalition Government is making that a priority as part of its 100-day plan. Education Minister Erica Stanford says that will start with banning cellphone use at school and ensuring all primary students spend one hour on reading, writing, and maths each day. ...
    1 week ago
  • US Business Summit Speech – Regional stability through trade
    I would like to begin by echoing the Prime Minister’s thanks to the organisers of this Summit, Fran O’Sullivan and the Auckland Business Chamber.  I want to also acknowledge the many leading exporters, sector representatives, diplomats, and other leaders we have joining us in the room. In particular, I would like ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Keynote Address to the United States Business Summit, Auckland
    Good morning. Thank you, Rosemary, for your warm introduction, and to Fran and Simon for this opportunity to make some brief comments about New Zealand’s relationship with the United States.  This is also a chance to acknowledge my colleague, Minister for Trade Todd McClay, Ambassador Tom Udall, Secretary of Foreign ...
    2 weeks ago
  • India New Zealand Business Council Speech, India as a Strategic Priority
    Good morning, tēnā koutou and namaskar. Many thanks, Michael, for your warm welcome. I would like to acknowledge the work of the India New Zealand Business Council in facilitating today’s event and for the Council’s broader work in supporting a coordinated approach for lifting New Zealand-India relations. I want to also ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Coalition Government unveils 100-day plan
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has laid out the Coalition Government’s plan for its first 100 days from today. “The last few years have been incredibly tough for so many New Zealanders. People have put their trust in National, ACT and NZ First to steer them towards a better, more prosperous ...
    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand welcomes European Parliament vote on the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement
    A significant milestone in ratifying the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement (FTA) was reached last night, with 524 of the 705 member European Parliament voting in favour to approve the agreement. “I’m delighted to hear of the successful vote to approve the NZ-EU FTA in the European Parliament overnight. This is ...
    3 weeks ago

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