Chorus sings a Dirge

Written By: - Date published: 7:42 am, December 4th, 2013 - 36 comments
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I welcomed Amy Adams independent review of Chorus’s financial claims in response to Chorus’s sad song. Not something I should say in a left leaning site but it does show an increasing awareness from government of big business endeavours to manipulate NZ to their advantage.

I felt that the Minister had a gun to her head when Chorus started threatening all sorts of dire consequences should the copper pricing not be fixed soon. It makes me nervous and suspicious when business starts threatening the government and making noises about urgency particularly when the decision has long running consequences.

Given that Chorus knew about the review of copper pricing did they work out what they thought it might be and make plans accordingly or have they assumed they could convince the regulator to give them the price they wanted and then proceeded to get themselves into a situation that meant that a change in the price would result in them going broke?

Chorus must have made an assumption about a pricing range. If they assumed the same or a single price then that is poor. They would then have made business plans based on that, and took a risk that pricing would be in that range. The question is, was that a fair pricing range assumption or was a mistake made? It is looking like a mistake was made then they’ll have to make other plans or trigger the contingency plans if they exist. Things do not always go the way you plan.

Recent developments have seen a plunging share price; please explain questions being issued by the ASX; political support for government intervention evaporating; assurances that Chorus would not walk away from the contract when it was suggested they could and changes in tone from the management. See this article (Not everyone buys the claim Chorus could walk). The share price fall sounds like the end of the world if you listen to some commentary. I’d make the following points.

  1. The explanation for the share price fall is simple and obvious. Investors/speculators drove the share price up on assumptions of a certain copper price. They got that price assumption wrong. The people with a problem with the current price are speculators on the wrong side of the fluctuation. Investors may need to do the sums again as assumptions may prove to be wrong and will need to re-evaluate what they think it is worth once a decision is made. The fluctuations only matter to speculators and other parasites in the market. Since when does a market regulator need to pander to them? If the organisation generates some value the price will go up again but that value better not come via a government hand-out to a private company whose management has made some erroneous assumptions.
  2. Damn right they will not pull out of the contract. As for renegotiating I am not sure I have heard a very good case for that yet. We’ll wait and see what the review says about the need financially. I’m hoping that the government will not need to bail them out as that will not be good. Some very serious questions will need answering if that occurs.
  3. I’ve already said that reviewing of Choruses finances was a good move when Chorus started to make all sorts of disastrous consequential threats if they did not get the pricing they wanted. But also well done on observers for calling them out. Chorus should get back to the work delivering on the contract. Stop playing political, legal and financial games and wasting everyone’s time and money. Focus on the job of providing the infrastructure NZ needs to become an advanced economy at a fair and reasonable price. Do that and the share price will look after itself.

Flip

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  1. ghostwhowalksnz 1
    4 December 2013 at 8:04 am

    Im reading this from a desktop which is tethered to a smartphone.

    The population using the copper broadband lines is falling anyway ( a main reason why Telecom offloaded Chorus in the first place, like they did with Yellow Pages before that )

    My next upgrade will be to the so called 4G broadband

    There is a good analysis of Clueless Chorus by there sharemarket correspondent “Chalkie” in Stuff this morning

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/9472236/Debt-at-core-of-Choruss-fiscal-fragility

    He has read the Telecom-Chorus demerger document and found some warning flags.

    : “There is a risk that the regulator will set prices that do not provide New Chorus with an adequate return on its assets.

    “In addition, if the prices that the regulator sets for copper-based products and services are significantly below the prices for comparable fibre-based services, fibre uptake may be negatively affected.”

    And so it came to pass. You can’t say Chorus didn’t try to warn everyone says Chalkie

    In addition Chalkie points out Chorus merely owns the local infrastucture , the long distance money making lines are owned by Telecom and Vodafone separately

    • Tim 1.1
      4 December 2013 at 8:36 am

      God I just lerv the double standards 🙂
      A “foaming fund manager” in that article screaming THEFT!
      Not so though apparently when publicly owned assets are undervalued and flogged off for private gain. Rodders Hide was a good one for screaming “THEFT” as well.

      The good thing is that me thinks Joe and Josephine Public are getting heartily sick of bailing out privatised assets over the years – whether they be banks, Air NZ or Wisconsin Rail.

      Love it!

    • infused 1.2
      4 December 2013 at 8:45 am

      The copper loop fell away ages ago. I’ve had voip at home for at-least 5-6 years, same for work. I use tcl cable at home and fibre at work.

      I hope your not saying we should just jump on 4G or something.

      • ghostwhowalksnz 1.2.1
        4 December 2013 at 9:24 am

        Well if you mean the standard voice network using copper lines, in local streets yes you are right.

        But its still being used for the majority of broadband for private and commercial users.

        Im not saying 3G or 4G is for everyone, but it fits my internet profile which doesnt involve downloading large files, music or video or otherwise. Its the bane of standard broadband in the evenings which is why even 3G is faster during peak times

      • Tim 1.2.2
        4 December 2013 at 12:48 pm

        Had Voip 12 years ago via a link – line of sight across town to a commercial ‘enterprise (since relinquished).
        What amuses me (especially having a hassle atm during a cutover from Vodafone) is the manner in which none of the Telcos are interested in basic preventative maintenance.
        Couldn’t cutover to Vodafone 12 months ago to naked DSL – not enough cable pairs despite the process being initiated. Fuck all investment had been made in maintaining the copper ‘local loop’ (and it seems they’d only just gotten rid of those 0+1?? units – this is within a mile of one of Wellington’s largest exchanges.
        Persevered with TelstraClear’s cable network – despite frequent outages including DNS servers, conduit carrying their infrastructure flapping around lamp posts, promotions designed to capture new customers at the expense of long term customers – i.e. since Clear Comms began….., holes dug in pathways approximately 10 years ago in order to reticulate but never having been remedied.

        and now Chorus ffs!

        I get amused when the likes of Hide/Douglas et al rave on about Post Office inefficiencies and having to wait months for a telephone.
        As far as consumer CHOOOOOICE goes – not a great deal has changed, other than there are more “commercial entities” lining up to clip the ticket, workmanship (such as basic cable management techniques) is pretty bloody shoddy, and an industry in disputes resolution has grown up.
        Progress? I think not

    • grumpy 1.3
      4 December 2013 at 10:08 am

      Chalkie is a classic. The name has been used by a number of commentators over the years – all excellent.

  2. vto 2
    4 December 2013 at 8:53 am

    Mr Flip… ” it does show an increasing awareness from government of big business endeavours to manipulate NZ to their advantage.”

    I disagree.

    What it shows is an increasing awareness from this government that the people have noticed its welfare and handouts to big business.

    • Draco T Bastard 2.1
      4 December 2013 at 9:10 am

      +1

    • Flip 2.2
      4 December 2013 at 9:15 am

      Quite so. 🙂

      If they cannot be stopped at least they’ll be a bit more thoughtful. It may slow them down a bit so stop us getting deeper in the hole. Perhaps next time (if there is one) the pressure will result in better outcomes. Still we should try to stop it.

    • tc 2.3
      4 December 2013 at 9:21 am

      +1, Big business owns this gov’t and is indulging in PR posturing in an attempt to make it look as if there’s this separation.

      There isn’t, it’s puppet and puppeteer which sunlight and some decent journalism would have shown years ago. Rio Tinto, Mediawonks, Warner bros, SCF, the list grows with every cycle.

      If Joyce/Key had of run an impartial hands off UFB tender, kept Reynolds at arms length and not suggested to other players to ‘bid’ nudge nudge wink wink they wouldn’t be having their little game exposed now.

    • Flip 2.4
      4 December 2013 at 10:01 am

      Quite so. 🙂

      I did respond with what I thought was some eloquent thoughts but they were lost in cyberspace. Grrrrr!!!!! Probably all the fiddling with the copper. Here goes again.

      : “There is a risk that the regulator will set prices that do not provide New Chorus with an adequate return on its assets.

      Yep. Is is called risk for a reason. It may eventuate. I would think that the assets have more than paid for themselves over time and given a good return. Anything returned now should be used for maintenance, decommissioning and profit.

      “In addition, if the prices that the regulator sets for copper-based products and services are significantly below the prices for comparable fibre-based services, fibre uptake may be negatively affected.”

      Once again yep, states the obvious. The fibre service will have to be competitive with copper and offer more value than it to be taken up. The value needs to be articulated well by the providers. Chorus and Co have work to do. Welcome to the world of business.

      Wireless services does not have the capacity that fibre provides for the types of services of the future. Good for mobile applications where it has coverage.

      All three will have a place in the future economy I suspect.

      • lprent 2.4.1
        4 December 2013 at 2:11 pm

        Added a trap for really dumb spambots at the .htaccess when they try to leave comments. It looks like it has quieted down the load considerably.

  3. Flip 3
    4 December 2013 at 9:04 am

    : “There is a risk that the regulator will set prices that do not provide New Chorus with an adequate return on its assets.

    Yep. All about risk. Risks can eventuate which is why it is called risk. The assets should have already paid for themselves and thus given a return several times over. I would say anything gained from them now is for maintenance, decommissioning and profit.

    “In addition, if the prices that the regulator sets for copper-based products and services are significantly below the prices for comparable fibre-based services, fibre uptake may be negatively affected.”

    Stating the obvious. Fibre prices will need to be competitively priced and offer more value than the copper service. I’m pretty sure it can. It is possible that copper can service a niche market of some sort.

    Wireless networks provide the benefit of mobility. I’m not that technical but it has limitations that fibre does not.

    I watched an attempted video conference on the Daily Blog with David Cunliffe, Martyn Bradbury and Selwyn Manning. Martyn eventually could not participate because he relied on wireless.

    All the infrastructure can exist depending on the need and fit.

    I’d question that a private company should run a monopoly infrastructure despite the prevailing orthodoxy of privatise everything.

    • Draco T Bastard 3.1
      4 December 2013 at 3:26 pm

      I’d question that a private company should run a monopoly infrastructure despite the prevailing orthodoxy of privatise everything.

      A private company should never own/run a monopoly even with regulators as the risk of abuse is far too great.

      • Francis 3.1.1
        5 December 2013 at 9:07 pm

        +1

        Particularly not for critical infrastructure like telecommunications, power, or water.

        • Colonial Viper 3.1.1.1
          5 December 2013 at 9:10 pm

          Nowadays I would also add the EFTPOS and transaction clearing system + ATM system.

  4. Lanthanide 4
    4 December 2013 at 9:10 am

    My BF’s in Oz for a work trip at the moment. He said big news over there at the moment is Rio Tinto shutting down an alumina refinery in NT unless the government gave them concessions.

    The Oz government didn’t blink.

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/rio-tinto-pulls-out-of-gove-and-1000-jobs-go-with-it-20131129-2yh6p.html

    • ghostwhowalksnz 4.1
      4 December 2013 at 9:30 am

      Yes they did offer them ‘assistance’ but it wasnt enough.

      Part of the problem was the power supply was based on burning oil, a prohibitively expensive method.

      As well it didnt involve the electorate of the Deputy PM.

    • tc 4.2
      4 December 2013 at 9:34 am

      Mining has lost some of its gloss across the ditch, folks are waking up to the rudd mining tax being a good idea that the industry.minerals council assisted by the liberals watered down to effectively nothing under Gillard.

      Abbott and co are now busy considering buying back the copper telstrta network, a stake in qantas and how to not have the education sector and liberal state education ministers lynch them after rejecting Gonski funding reforms and then trying to expunge gonski from the records as it it never happened.

      Interesting times in the flat brown sunburned land.

      • Ake ake ake 4.2.1
        4 December 2013 at 11:52 am

        You’re on to it. I’m on this side of the ditch and thinking how to better that summary.

        Not sure about the last reference though. This is a big place. Some parts are flat, some not, some brown, some not that brown. And it has been a mix of wet, cloudy, hot, humid and dry weather so far.

        One thing for sure, over here, we are more likely to be able to rely on the government to put ahead and protect the national interest.

        • Colonial Viper 4.2.1.1
          5 December 2013 at 9:12 pm

          Indonesia being the positive aspect of Abbott’s performance in govt, so far 😈

  5. tricledrown 5
    4 December 2013 at 9:11 am

    Confused your home still uses copper doh.
    Your broadband is capped and you are paying some of the highest prices for that slow capped data.
    You will be subsidizing the monopoly chorus corporate welfare not surprising as you support a govt that has handed several billion of tax payers money to corporates!

  6. tricledrown 6
    4 December 2013 at 9:19 am

    Confused tell me how your voip works .
    Does it just get on the internet by majic.
    Or does it Go from your computet down the copper loop to the nearest exchange with fibre optic .
    Jeez no wonder you support a bunch of incompetent idiots called nactional.
    Another public private partnership monopoly fuckup.

  7. ghostwhowalksnz 7
    4 December 2013 at 9:19 am

    Everybodys broadband is capped.
    Even the so called uncapped plans available overseas have a fair use policy, which in reality means capped.

    • miravox 7.1
      4 December 2013 at 9:54 am

      Even the so called uncapped plans available overseas have a fair use policy

      I dunno – it feels quite ‘uncapped’ where I am, in the EU. I guess fair use depends on the expectations where you are. Even when I had visitors downloading every tv series and movie they could didn’t seem to knock on the door of any ‘fair use’ policy. I expect with internet-streamed tv in a domestic situation that sort of downloading would be expected.

      The visitors were swearing really, really badly about the hype around NZ broadband promises and what they they thought was a world-class service there.

      An American pov from a couple of years ago – but probably still stands for NZ

      • ghostwhowalksnz 7.1.1
        4 December 2013 at 12:36 pm

        Try running a network across a country that is the size of Germany but instead of 70 million has only 4.25 million.
        Plus only has effectively two international fibre optic undersea connections, one to Australia and the other to Hawaii.

        I remember too some opera buff wondered why Auckland couldnt support a full time professional opera company. After all Stuttgart could with 600,000 people.

        What they didnt mention was that Stuttgart may have a municipal council population of 600,000 but the contiguous urban area was around 2.5 million. And the regional population was around 4 million. Plus it was the state capital of Baden Wurttemburg, around 10 million in an area roughly the size of Canterbury.

        So please , going to a small country 3 hours by air from its nearest neighbour in the pacific ocean, aint going to have ALL the same services as England or the Netherlands or even Stuttgart

        • Draco T Bastard 7.1.1.1
          4 December 2013 at 3:34 pm

          Try running a network across a country that is the size of Germany but instead of 70 million has only 4.25 million.

          We’ve done it before and we had less than 4 million then.

        • miravox 7.1.1.2
          4 December 2013 at 9:11 pm

          The comment wasn’t about how difficult it is to roll out broadband in NZ. More about the hype that what is there is a decent service, when it’s not.

  8. Ad 8
    4 December 2013 at 9:51 am

    Chorus, Mighty River Power, Genesis and Contact are pulling the NZX down hard.

    National Government promised to bring new life to NZX and is in fact a dead hand on an otherwise flourishing capital market.

    Shows how deeply under regulated NZ utilities are when the mere promise of fresh regulatory or political intervention sends their prices into a spiral.

    Key is the NZX’s shit fairy. And with it goes the retirement futures of those much vaunted “mums and dads”.

    • Ake ake ake 8.1
      4 December 2013 at 11:54 am

      There is a difference between currency speculating and stock market trading!
      They chose the wrong idiot to run the circus!!

  9. Philj 9
    4 December 2013 at 10:05 am

    Xox
    I think it was the corporate sector, Vodafone, and other business interests which had conflicting commercial interest to those of Chorus. The Government was in a cleft stick, two competing giant corporate Interests and the consumer being rorted, again. Amazing that it was this issue that united the opposition against the Government. We shall see more pressure leading up to the General election. Let the fun and games commence!

    • Rich 9.1
      4 December 2013 at 12:55 pm

      That’s pretty much the case – you’ve got the telecoms resellers who want a low price so they can sell more and make a margin versus Chorus who have the opposite view.

      They’ve lined up behind different National party factions, no doubt handing over the usual bags-o-money along the way. If I have it right, Chorus are working with the Collins faction (who use Slater as a mouthpiece) and the resellers are with Adams and Farrar. Key has been sitting on the fence but seems to have little option but to cut Chorus loose, given the lack of votes for bailout price hikes.

      • idlegus 9.1.1
        4 December 2013 at 5:42 pm

        there was some discussion somewhere that key was on the phone to the ceo of chorus daily.

      • Draco T Bastard 9.1.2
        4 December 2013 at 8:28 pm

        That’s pretty much the case – you’ve got the telecoms resellers who want a low price so they can sell more and make a margin versus Chorus who have the opposite view.

        It wasn’t that long ago that the competitors were pretty much calling for re-nationalisation of the entire telecommunications network. They’d come to the conclusion that our present system of competition in networks was inefficient. They settled for ULL.

  10. Matthew Hooton 10
    4 December 2013 at 2:06 pm

    A very good post. Very right wing! Sign a contract, take the risk, do the job, don’t bleat for corporate welfare.

    • Flip 10.1
      5 December 2013 at 6:51 am

      Normally I’m left of centre but primarily interested in what is best for NZ. Currently business has way too much influence on government.

      Established business has a problem innovating. It is set up to maximise profit from a particular source which in Choruses case is the Copper business. It is a hard ask for it to change to a new business (Fibre) and mostly that is a difficult and costly move. It is a well known problem.

      Normally a large established business will try and stop innovative companies coming into a market with new products unless prevented from doing so as they will take market share away from them. I’ve never understood why businesses say they welcome competition. I think it is disingenuous and look quite skeptically at those making the comment.

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    Laptops have become essential tools for work, entertainment, and communication, offering portability and functionality. However, with rising energy costs and growing environmental concerns, understanding a laptop’s power consumption is more important than ever. So, how many watts does a laptop use? The answer, unfortunately, isn’t straightforward. It depends on several ...
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    1 day ago

  • How to Screen Record on a Dell Laptop A Guide to Capturing Your Screen with Ease
    Screen recording has become an essential tool for various purposes, such as creating tutorials, capturing gameplay footage, recording online meetings, or sharing information with others. Fortunately, Dell laptops offer several built-in and external options for screen recording, catering to different needs and preferences. This guide will explore various methods on ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How Much Does it Cost to Fix a Laptop Screen? Navigating Repair Options and Costs
    A cracked or damaged laptop screen can be a frustrating experience, impacting productivity and enjoyment. Fortunately, laptop screen repair is a common service offered by various repair shops and technicians. However, the cost of fixing a laptop screen can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article delves into the ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 day ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 day ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 day ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
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    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    2 days ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
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    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    2 days ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    2 days ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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    Skeptical Science
    2 days ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
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    3 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
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    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    4 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    5 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago

  • True Blue.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago

  • $41m to support clean energy in South East Asia
    New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    8 hours ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago

  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago

  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    11 hours ago

  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    11 hours ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
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    4 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
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    4 days ago

  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
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