Coalition for Better Broadcasting launch

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1. Craig Glen Eden 1

   14 April 2014 at 9:35 am

   This is so needed right now broadcastings has gone to the right wing dogs.
   • Once was Tim 1.1

     14 April 2014 at 1:23 pm

     +1
     It has Craig, but only in the sense that neo-lib disciples seek to commodify anything and everything in their belief that everything must be judged in economic terms, and ‘the unregulated market’ is the natural leveler.
     Let’s hope however that the recreation of an adequate modern-day Public Sphere (using mechanisms such as this) is met with support from across the political spectrum – though somehow I doubt it.
     I regard the aims of this group to actually be quite modest, but it is however a really good starting point AND with people who know their shit.

     As things progress, let’s hope they’re able to make NZers aware of how PSB has been captured by the corporatists and monopolists (and that the monopoly that has driven up the cost of broadcast content is broken. Incidentally I have a very very easy way of doing that which even the most ardent disciple couldn’t possibly claim to be ‘theft of private property’ – which no doubt they’ll try on)

     TVNZ has been fucked over; Freeview has been fucked over; RNZ is in the process of being fucked over; and given the rumours that the munsta of the Universe Tau the Henry is about to inheret MTS – fuckover in waiting is in the queue there. Probably the BBC’s managerial class is busy taking lessons from NZ given the changes and reimaging going on there.

     Damn good to see Thompson heading this initiative, and I’m sure there are several equally as qualified and competent alongside. Actually, there’s at least one I know of who could hardly be characterised as any sort of bleeding heart lelftie liberal that’s involved. I think Karol may have referred to her on this site in the recent past.

     There’s also been real pessimism amongst many as to how one might resurrect PSB in this country (usually using all the excuses in the world – including things like population size, and metrics that are based on the disciple’s belief in the neo-liberal religion).
     It isn’t actually THAT hard IF there’s actually a commitment to do so. And I’m not JUST thinking of one ad-free broadcast (i.e. Publica means of information dissemination and platform for it’s various voices).
     This is actually make or break in the short term. In the longer term – it’s inevitable.
2. captain hook 2

   14 April 2014 at 9:49 am

   Yes I listened to radio new zeland this morning and it seemed to have some sort of talkback going.
   i.e. fuckwits spouting their opinions.
   that is not news and demeans every new zealander who expects to have somebody that knows what they are talking about talking to them.
   turning radio new zealand into a doppelganger of radio spud and the other nitwit stations is an act of cultural sabotage.
   • ianmac 2.1

     14 April 2014 at 10:12 am

     Yes. My immediate concern is for National Radio. The freeze of funding has the effect of a sinking lid. Starved of resources the Radio seems to increasingly rely on the trivia instead of news.
     Seems typical of this Government that rather than upset the 500,000 supporters of say Morning Report by suddenly reducing delivery of quality news, they have opted for the “creeping downwards” so you don’t notice the drop-off till its too late. Creeping. Sneaking.
     I think this has been the long-term strategy of those creepy ones such as Steven Joyce.

     So long live National Radio. My immediate focus with CBB!
   • ianmac 2.2

     14 April 2014 at 1:07 pm

     Tried to become a member online but only option is to use Paypal. I would rather no as we had difficulties in the past. Only other way seemed to just donate $20.
     • karol 2.2.1

       14 April 2014 at 5:13 pm

       There’s a credit card option.
       • ianmac 2.2.1.1

         14 April 2014 at 10:56 pm

         Tried that and it put me back onto Paypal.
     • Aspasia 2.2.2

       15 April 2014 at 5:46 pm

       You can pay $20 by internet bank transfer, identifying the payment with your name and fill out the membership stuff on the webpage.
3. blue leopard 3

   14 April 2014 at 11:33 am

   This is great news 🙂
4. RedLogix 4

   14 April 2014 at 12:06 pm

   One of the big positives about living in Aussie is that between ABC and SBS television has become watchable again.
   • Murray Olsen 4.1

     15 April 2014 at 4:31 am

     They have the NITV channel as well, which carries some stuff from Maori tv.
5. greywarbler 5

   14 April 2014 at 12:15 pm

   What is the leading graphic? Unclear. It looks like someone strung up Christ-like in a murky room. That is of course not an analogy of our precious and perhaps precocious RadioNZ – NZ public broadcasting.
   • karol 5.1

     14 April 2014 at 5:15 pm

     It’s a band called public broadcasting in a bombed out room/library, making use of the remnants – I intended it as a starting point – working towards better media.
     • greywarbler 5.1.1

       14 April 2014 at 11:25 pm

       Thanks Karol – you get fine graphics. This one intrigued.
6. Philj 6

   14 April 2014 at 12:26 pm

   xox
   Public Broadcasting has been trashed by this and previous governments. Peter Thompson is a great spokesman, pleasant and knowledgeable too. Mind you, years ago, Ian Fraser ( and Marion Hobbs) was supposed to work miracles and didn’t last long. And the downhill slide continues ….RNZ National is now slipping …
   • karol 6.1

     14 April 2014 at 5:49 pm

     Marion Hobbs was involved with developing and implementing the TVNZ charter. That was a timid and somewhat contradictory policy. It aimed to encourage public service and NZ specific content, while not rocking the commercial basis of the current TVNZ set up.

     The Clark government did do a good thing in enabling the setting up TVNZ6 & 7. However, Keys government has just gradually whittled away at the remnants of public broadcasting.
7. Draco T Bastard 7

   14 April 2014 at 4:18 pm

   Spending per capita on public broadcasting
8. Binders full of women 8

   14 April 2014 at 6:21 pm

   Ne’er a truer word was spoken by Kim Hill– whenever someone says they want more quality programming– they are actually saying more of the programmes they like. Eg, my chosen better broadcasting would be equal parts Radio NZ (esp Simon & Phil), more whaleoil, more John Stewart and more golf.
   • BM 8.1

     14 April 2014 at 6:34 pm

     This * ∞

     Going by the wankery in this thread, the issue is everything should be left,left,left and nothing else
     because neo-liberalism is evil, right wing people are evil and if there was a god all traces of this evilness would be banished from our media.
     • karol 8.1.1

       14 April 2014 at 6:41 pm

       Did you guys read the post, or check out the website?

       Quotes from the site that are in the post above:

       Better broadcasting:
       
       * strikes a balance between information and entertainment

       * caters to all audiences and not just household shoppers

       * isn’t afraid to present hard-to-understand concepts, unusual formats or challenge the audience

       […]

       What isn’t better broadcasting?

       The CBB does not support broadcasting and media that:

       * treats audiences like idiots
       * is produced and scheduled solely to make profits
       * seeks to control or hamper public discourse
       * is unsupportive of other media outlets and genres
       * limits contributions based on age, race, religion, politics, wealth, dress-sense or hairstyle.

       It’s about diversity of topics styles and formats, enabling wide ranging discussions, and exploring topics in depth, caters for the interests of all sections of society, and is not just there to make a financial profit.

       Does the term “democracy” mean anything to you?
       • Once was Tim 8.1.1.1

         14 April 2014 at 9:26 pm

         SSlands’ comment is reminiscent of a Jamie-Lee moment (one of those little ideologically-driven, parrot-fashion-learned, let-me-check-with-my-master-brown-nose moments you encounter on that advertorial thing on TV1 called ‘Breakfast’ with Max Headroom and Blonde Bimbo).
       • greywarbler 8.1.1.2

         14 April 2014 at 11:48 pm

         I was thinking that I really don’t like things that are too purist. Maybe it would be better to say that the the list of things that could be classed as Not Better Broadcasting should be less than 20% in a sort of 80/20 approach.

         All the things that are listed as bad might be done sometimes. Say by comedians, or satirists, the second listing is confused, some public discourse needs to be hampered, I don’t want too many God botherers, sports people, shock jocks, right wing loonies, left wing loonies and their PR, spokespeople being linked to.

         I do want a limit on overseas sensational reports such as mass shootings and celebrity trial updates longer than four sentences (ie Piss stories from South Africa). And I don’t want to have equal access by every different group in the country on their particular viewpoint. That’s okay for talkback, but I want to have people who think and examine their ideas before presenting them. Otherwise it is too often just trite, top of the head stuff.
9. philj 9

   14 April 2014 at 10:24 pm

   xox
   TVNZ has become a sick, and expensive pathetic joke.
10. captain hook 10

    15 April 2014 at 7:56 am

    not as sick as morning report. guyon espiner is a slimy little toad and how they could employ someone like him is beyond comprehension unless they prefer slimy little toads like him.
    • greywarbler 10.1

      15 April 2014 at 12:26 pm

      Who would have chosen Espiner? One, two, or a committee? What width of scoping would they have done? How many suitable to choose from? How many would jump at the chance of regularly getting up with those dairy farmers and workers still doing the milking? What is their track record in providing vital, incisive news to the nation? And what do we know about their political and prejudicial tendencies? Is there a government representative on the committee/board?
11. fambo 11

    15 April 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Unfortunately, I’m still not convinced that Labour is committed to re-invigorating public broadcasting yet. After all, they pretty much wrote the book for the present situation, and when I attended a save TV7 meeting in my region, I didn’t feel any passion from the Labour representative. Labour has to come out and forthrightly state that it 100 percent supports a publicly funded TV channel (not TV1 or TV2 in their present form) and they will put more money into National Radio. And it has to repeat this regularlly and loudly so that no one is in any doubt of where it stands.
    • karol 11.1

      15 April 2014 at 4:36 pm

      I agree on the importance of opposition parties speaking strongly for a publicly funded TV channel – and for upping the funding for RNZ – plus affiliated online delivery platforms..
    • greywarbler 11.2

      15 April 2014 at 9:26 pm

      Hear, hear my good fellow. Thumps walking stick on floor. As I have always said – for the last 100 years – or it seems so – Labour need to boogie on down from the ivory tower and get their hands dirty putting NZ back together again. When they played around with it and took out all the screws there were some left over after they hurried to finish their Frankenstein muckup. Some Labourites have had a screw loose for years – AND ITS SHOWING!

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