Get tough no solution

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1. Rex Widerstrom 1

   23 February 2010 at 6:38 pm

   Western Australia has just passed an “assaults against public officers” act. And indeed there was much debate leading up to it along the lines of “What about the ambos?” “Yeah, well what about the nurses?” and so on.

   I think in the end they drew the line at the hospital door… so you’d better not lay a hand on the cop who arrests you or the ambulance officer who patches you up affter the cop has finished with you, but once you’re wheeled into the hospital it’s a free-for-all.

   It is just kneejerk policy making of the worst and most short-sighted sort. But if it were merely stupid and ineffective it’d be no worse than most laws passed by politicians.

   This one, however, is positively dangerous because it sends a message to Police that they are untouchable in a legal as well as physical sense and so they figure they can resort to a bit of biff when someone does something as innocuous as make a joke about them.

   The outcome of these sorts of laws is well (and vividly) documented so one can only assume Collins et al want those sorts of encounters to become commonplace on NZ streets.
2. pollywog 2

   23 February 2010 at 7:46 pm

   “Crime is a symptom of a society and individuals with underlying problems like poverty, alienation, substance abuse, and mental illness.”

   lets not forget racism, frustration, disenchantment and loss of faith in politicians.

   “so one can only assume Collins et al want those sorts of encounters to become commonplace on NZ streets.”

   oh yeah, so the cops want a riot too ?…i would imagine its not that hard to create a situation. just keep on keeping on with the same ol’ same ol’
3. Quoth the Raven 3

   23 February 2010 at 8:02 pm

   That’s a sympton of a do nothing government with no other agenda than backhanders to its mates and staying popular.

   Yes and lets not forget Labour’s record on this – new acts on sentencing, parole, bail, more police powers and great growth in the prison population as a result of it. It was nasty populist politics from a party in which you’d think at least some of the members might know better. National is really just giving us more of the same that we got from Labour.
   • Rex Widerstrom 3.1

     23 February 2010 at 10:26 pm

     Hear hear, QtR. And any hope they’d grown a spine was dashed by Dalziel’s pathetic lack of support for the Chief Justice when she spoke out on the issue of sentencing and parole.

     At least the further right you go, the more the party has the excuse that this nonsense is a genuinely held, if totally erroneous belief.

     When it comes from a party ostensibly of the left, it’s a sickening display of political prostitution that makes Peter Dunne look principled.
     • Draco T Bastard 3.1.1

       24 February 2010 at 1:40 pm

       Labour hasn’t been “of the left” since about the 1980s.
       • Rex Widerstrom 3.1.1.1

         24 February 2010 at 2:46 pm

         Agreed, hence the word “ostensibly”.

         Though they’re still capable of taking a liberal approach to social issues (civil unions et al). So I suspect that when they talk about criminals they know they’re wrong, whereas many of those who are on the right believe their own sloganeering.

         It seems that, for Labour, offenders are the last group against whom it’s perfectly okay to vent your illinformed prejudices, even if you know them to be wrong. Hypocrites all.

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