Conferences are wasteful, unless you’re hosting

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1. all_your_base 1

   26 February 2009 at 12:40 pm

   Over at The Herald they’re posing the question “Do you think National’s one day job summit will achieve anything?”. The answers don’t seem particularly optimistic.

   http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2009/2/25/do-you-think-nationals-one-day-job-summit-will-achieve-anything/?c_id=1501154&commentpage=0

   No wonder really, from Bill English’s comments over the last few weeks it frankly sounds like he’s given up.
2. northpaw 2

   26 February 2009 at 1:50 pm

   Nice one, SP..

   One thought to perhaps add to the smiles was not so much a summit as a summitomo (aka chewing the fat) 🙂
3. IrishBill 3

   26 February 2009 at 1:56 pm

   I was struck by the fact that the logo is in a nice National Party blue and immediately identified by title with John Key. I recall many on the right complaining about this sort of thing under Labour. Where are they now?
   • vto 3.1

     26 February 2009 at 2:39 pm

     they too busy laughing IB
4. Pat 4

   26 February 2009 at 2:09 pm

   “I expect that the outcomes of the summit will be some training allowance-type programme (it will have to be damn small because English won’t open the purse), work force ‘flexibility’ measures, ie. anti-union laws, extension of the Fire at Will law, and, maybe, a tax credit for employers”.

   Maybe Key, once again, will surprise you.

   Personally I would like to see the blowtorch come on the banking sector. Banks have a major role to play in the recession, and at the moment they are only adding to the economic death spiral. The Government needs to call them to arms to play their part, and in doing so accept a lower return for the shareholders for the short/medium term. In particular Banks need to:

   1. Reduce their margins on business and farming lending rates.
   2. Roll over existing facilities for businesses.
   3. Lend to the productive sector of the economy such as manufacturers without the requirement for property security.
   4. If a business is struggling, take a longer term view. If there is a reasonable chance they will make it if their Bank facilities stay in place or are increased, then hang in there with them.
   5. Start lending back to at least 90% on home loans. A more active housing market creates employment.

   If the Banks can play a bigger, more active part in the economic recovery it actually helps them restore profitability. As opposed to a depression which is good for no-one, including the Banks.

   Catchpa: Standard review! OK then, I’ll give it “Slowly improving but bad news filter still on. Many contributors still appear bewildered as to how their side lost. Unhealthy obsession with Farrar. Has assumed the role of Labour’s attack-dog and remain convinced Key is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Would be better served helping re-design Labour in particular a relevant policy platform”.
   • IrishBill 4.1

     26 February 2009 at 2:24 pm

     Pat, we’d dearly like to redesign Labour (probably into something like the Alliance but without the personality issues and with shit hot PR) but despite the fantasies of our right-wing commenters nobody on the standard has any real influence over Labour and Labour certainly (and thankfully) doesn’t have any influence over us. If they did I suspect our readership would collapse (probably from boredom).

     With regard to your other comments I’ll only say we’ve become the second highest ranked blog in NZ in a little over a year and a half. You do believe in market forces don’t you, Pat?
5. BLiP 5

   26 February 2009 at 3:46 pm

   Has anyone costed this Goober Gab Fest? I wonder how many blocks of cheese I could buy for the same amount?
   • Felix 5.1

     26 February 2009 at 4:37 pm

     Heh, that was my favourite line in the article:

     “”The number of blocks of cheese involved doesn’t bear thinking about.’
   • Steve Pierson 5.2

     26 February 2009 at 4:55 pm

     I’m hoping that Labour will be asking that in the House next week.
6. Jum 6

   26 February 2009 at 8:33 pm

   Pat
   Remember that little chat Key had with all the banks pre election. It wasn’t to check out his $50mill. It was to synchronise their watches to coincide with his pleas to the banking thugs to think of the little people. ASB came across. For SME.

   Key wants to be seen as having influence over the gods of finance. At least until he has the easily fooled public in his clutches. They’re so busy worrying about their futures, they won’t be worried about the subtle nuances of what the NActs are plotting.

   I am disappointed in the people of New Zealand. The smiling assassin has taken over the country. Won’t bother me personally, but I worry about my children’s futures.
7. vto 7

   26 February 2009 at 8:40 pm

   Jum, I think you’re wrong. I don’t think Key is worried about his so-called bankster mates and all that paranoid conspiracy stuff. I think Key is overly serious about being taken seriously about NZ and its people. He is I think simple and his plan is simple.
8. Jum 8

   26 February 2009 at 8:51 pm

   ‘we’ve become the second highest ranked blog in NZ in a little over a year and a half.’

   Congratulations. You deserve it. You are the only people putting the other point of view and uncovering the misinformation spread by NAct.

   Thank you. I spread your name around wherever I can as a worthy observer of NAct’s daily actions. It wasn’t the major changes that Labour made that killed them off. It was the thousands of cuts the righties made, full of lies, inuendo and misinformation. (A besieged group cuts itself off from its attackers and let’s face it, that was the world of Labour/Progressives. Unfortunately, it was seen as arrogance. It never was.) Let’s hope that Labour has learned its lesson and again begins to communicate with its supporters. The future of NZ is far too valuable for NAct to remain in Government for a second term, because that would be the last nail in NZ’s coffin.
   • vto 8.1

     26 February 2009 at 9:06 pm

     Swap ‘righties’ for ‘lefties’ and ‘labour’ for ‘national’, stick it on kiwiblog Jum and voila!
9. Jum 9

   26 February 2009 at 9:37 pm

   Got your first (February 26, 2009 at 8:40 pm) message, too Vto. I thought you were rather naive. Now I know.

   I’ve also been on kiwiblog. There aint no comparison between my congratulating The Standard for giving the other point of view and kiwiblog pimping for National.

   I also don’t receive ‘payment’ for supporting the left. David Farrar? That’s another story – personal appearances on Good morning politics…etc.
10. vto 10

    26 February 2009 at 9:53 pm

    No worries Mr Jum. The proof is in the pudding.

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