Daily Review – 01/09/2017

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1. Stuart Munro 1

   1 September 2017 at 5:39 pm

   He’s gonna need that chainmail…
   • gsays 1.1

     1 September 2017 at 9:48 pm

     Looks like a branch of baldricks family.
     • UncookedSelachimorpha 1.1.1

       1 September 2017 at 11:41 pm

       A monkey put into a suit and strategically shaved?
2. The decrypter 2

   1 September 2017 at 5:54 pm

   Too much NOTICE AND FEATURES. +100000
   • lprent 2.1

     1 September 2017 at 9:53 pm

     Problem is that when we don’t have Notices and Features posts like Open Mike and Daily Review or reposts from other blogs then we have people starting to chat all over the conversation in the posts from authors. The moderators wind up landing on them hard. Which makes us grumpy.

     So suck it up and learn to love that we aren’t grumpy.
3. Muttonbird 3

   1 September 2017 at 6:20 pm

   John Banks a crook for the 4th or 5th time? I see a pattern here.
   • ScottGN 3.1

     1 September 2017 at 6:24 pm

     He really is rather unpleasant.
   • Draco T Bastard 3.2

     1 September 2017 at 8:39 pm

     Link?
     • McFlock 3.2.1

       1 September 2017 at 8:49 pm

       Lost the paternity suit against him.
       Not a crime in itself, but the case also suggested he’d obtained a substance to induce an abortion and tried to pressure the mother of his kid to abort. Which I believe was illegal in those days.
       • gsays 3.2.1.1

         1 September 2017 at 9:41 pm

         Certainly not very ‘christian’.
         • McFlock 3.2.1.1.1

           1 September 2017 at 10:07 pm

           But aren’t we all relieved that the latest “family values” hypocrite turned out to be something other than a sex offender.
       • Draco T Bastard 3.2.1.2

         1 September 2017 at 10:26 pm

         In her affidavit, Mayes said she decided to come clean after Banks’ emotional 1999 valedictory speech, in which he spoke of the “crushing heartache” of growing up without a mother and father.

         Ah, typical RWNJ hypocrisy.

         Decalre the need for family and family values and then ignore and deny them when those values become inconvenient.
         • WILD KATIPO 3.2.1.2.1

           2 September 2017 at 12:40 am

           Or they discover that you need money to comfortably bring up children in a family ,… that’s one sacred cow they don’t want to shell out for…hence their hatred for the welfare state.
   • Bearded Git 3.3

     1 September 2017 at 8:39 pm

     Surely not…former police minister (sarc)
4. Glenn 4

   1 September 2017 at 6:20 pm

   From The Daily Mail

   Right-wingers tend to be less intelligent than left-wingers, and people with low childhood intelligence tend to grow up to have racist and anti-gay views, says a controversial new study.

   Conservative politics work almost as a ‘gateway’ into prejudice against others, say the Canadian academics.

   The paper analysed large UK studies which compared childhood intelligence with political views in adulthood across more than 15,000 people.

   The authors claim that people with low intelligence gravitate towards right-wing views because they make them feel safe.

   Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study–conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html#ixzz4rPBkBOr5
   Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

   Must be true it’s in the reknown bastion of truth The Daily Mail and it’s on the internet. (sarc)
   • TeWhareWhero 4.1

     1 September 2017 at 7:30 pm

     You might find this amusing – I did.
     https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/feb/05/daily-mail-calls-rightwingers-stupid
     • lprent 4.1.1

       1 September 2017 at 10:27 pm

       Thank you for that. I was sniggering through out the description of the comments. They sounded so … familar. From 2012. Teasing excerpts follow.

       Now Mail Online has gone one step further by running a story that not only insults its own readers, but cruelly invites them to underline the insult by making fools of themselves. In what has to be a deliberate act of “trolling”, last Friday it carried a story headlined “Rightwingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says study”. In terms of enraging your core readership, this is the equivalent of Nuts magazine suddenly claiming only gay men masturbate to Hollyoaks babes.

       Followed by some of the most hilarious analysis that describes the daily gloop available from the sewer. And it ends with…

       On and on the comments went, turning a rather stark write-up of a daft-sounding study into a sublime piece of live online performance art. A chimps’ tea party of the damned. The Mail has long been a master at trolling lefties; now it’s mischievously turned on its own readers, and the results could only be funnier if the website came with free plastic lawn furniture for them to lob at the screen. You couldn’t make it up.

       Indeed.
5. ScottGN 5

   1 September 2017 at 6:30 pm

   Isn’t it amazing that all those pundits who’ve been telling us for so long that National is headed for a rare fourth term because there’s no groundswell for change are all now falling all over themselves to tell us Jacinda has tapped into a deep vein running through the electorate that’s hankering for change?
   • WILD KATIPO 5.1

     1 September 2017 at 7:24 pm

     I believe they are nothing more than reeds swaying in the wind… or dogs who run to whoever has the food… this cartoon is typical of them…

     https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/politics-career-career_adviser-career_advice-politicians-career_paths-tcrn1310_low.jpg
6. eco Maori/kiwi 6

   1 September 2017 at 6:49 pm

   Look at the David Tamihere case more contracted lairs on display this is how the criminal Justice system works. And It takes years to get to the truth and thousands of dollars what a sham.

   This is why I say to all our young Maori or Pacific males keep out of shit because as soon as you get a criminal charge you will have no Human rights or Privacy rights. So the police can use you as a scape goat and most people will believe the man whom upholds the law what a load of crap in every population you have good and bad Its just some organizations are good at displaying a farcical image of there members .
   And you no what is the most scandalous of this problem senior memebers of that organization no whats going on WTF.
   • AsleepWhileWalking 6.1

     1 September 2017 at 7:03 pm

     Technically although you may have rights under the law it is exceptionally difficult to get anyone to listen regardless if ethnicity
     • eco Maori/kiwi 6.1.1

       1 September 2017 at 7:28 pm

       +100 AsleepWhileWalking my post is to all our youth. I am just saying Maori and Pacific because I want them to get my warning. And they have a higher rate of incarceration. I do not mean to discriminate I’m just trying to educate our youth on how the system works if my statement keeps one boy out of jail I will be happy what ever race they are.
7. Anne 7

   1 September 2017 at 7:25 pm

   Some more reflection on Winston Peters and the case of the mysterious over-payments.

   It has crossed my mind that the cabinet ministers who were given a heads up on the situation just might have been telling the truth when they categorically denied they talked about the matter to anyone. I base these thoughts on the anonymous phone call received by Newshub a week or so ago. Is it not possible that the MSD files were hacked by someone looking for dirt on Winston Peters? That anonymous phone-call might have been made by the hacker or someone closely associated with them.

   It would be interesting to know whether there has been any attempt to trace the call to its source.
   • Muttonbird 7.1

     1 September 2017 at 7:30 pm

     But the MSD heads have admitted they knew of and shared this information with the National Party as early as June. That’s when the information left MSD.

     Are you saying there was a completely different data hack outside of this?
     • Anne 7.1.1

       1 September 2017 at 8:05 pm

       I’m suggesting that over and above the internal MSD discovery, someone beyond the MSD might have hacked into the files looking for the dirt on Peters. It may be a long shot but there would surely have been a whisper campaign among those ‘in the know’ and someone might have decided to obtain the information illegally for the purpose of discrediting him.

       Winston has made a lot of enemies over the years – especially among those with very deep pockets.
   • Pete 7.2

     1 September 2017 at 7:33 pm

     You can call from the grassy knoll these days.
     • WILD KATIPO 7.2.1

       2 September 2017 at 12:52 am

       Theory’s abound,….

       John F. Kennedy – Fatally Shot Grassy Knoll 1963 – YouTube
       grassy knoll you tube▶ 2:56
       
       • CoroDale 7.2.1.1

         2 September 2017 at 2:07 am

         Who shot JFK… no. Why they shot him is the question.
         Answer is obvious.
         • One Anonymous Bloke 7.2.1.1.1

           2 September 2017 at 6:41 pm

           🙄

           Only to the certain.
8. Gabby 8

   1 September 2017 at 7:43 pm

   Kelve needs a daily briefing and a minder. Just somebody who’s a dab hand with a pointy stick to keep him on script.
   • alwyn 8.1

     1 September 2017 at 8:34 pm

     Leave the poor guy alone.
     He can’t help it if he can’t remember that nearly everything he has been told must be hidden from the voting public.
     He simply wants to demonstrate that he is in the loop. The problem is that that requires keeping all your lies consistent. For someone who worked for Blair or Clark that isn’t to hard but for the poor little chap from Northland it is more difficult.
     • WILD KATIPO 8.1.1

       1 September 2017 at 9:52 pm

       … ” He can’t help it if he can’t remember that nearly everything he has been told must be hidden from the voting public ” …

       ———————————-

       You mean a bit like this ?

       The Donghua Liu Affair: Evidence of Collusion … – The Daily Blog
       https://thedailyblog.co.nz/…/the-donghua-liu-affair-evidence-of-collusion-between-th…

       Or when Key tried to justify GSCB misuse to enable Tim Grosser to spy on other country’s contenders for the top job at the World Trade Organization ?

       Or maybe the time Key was caught out about the XKEYSCORE program and mass surveillance , – or perhaps the time we all learned the GSCB spying on Kim Dotcom and 88 other New Zealanders was, in actual fact , … illegal.

       Dissecting the GCSB bill – Campbell Live (Kim Dotcom scandal …
       Video for Dissecting the GCSB bill – Campbell Live (Kim Dotcom scandal)▶ 16:11
       

       As it has come out even further recently with the courts finding that the GSCB had not disclosed ALL THE EVIDENCE and the timing of their illegal spying.

       And those are just a few examples of how your weedy defense of a corrupt National govt has behaved over its 9 year term , – by making the rules up as it went along to suit itself despite breaching legal parameters… and weakening our democracy.

       And here you are, … alwyn ,… pointing the finger at Kelvin Davis and Labour because ,- as they have already pointed out , – they are setting up a working group regards taxation, and as we all know… rwnj’s like you don’t give a damn about tax havens and corrupt governments , – so long as you get your little tax breaks .

       Perhaps you should have relocated to live in the Cook Islands a decade or so ago , – Fay / Richwhite would have loved you , – as ‘ Sir’ Albert Henry would have also…
   • Chris 8.2

     1 September 2017 at 8:56 pm

     Please don’t let this guy become deputy pm. It’s clear Labour’s depth is lacking, but surely there’s someone better than Davis.
     • gsays 8.2.1

       1 September 2017 at 9:44 pm

       He can stay dep leader of Labour, and have James Shaw as deputy prime minister.
       As others have eluded to, he displays leadership every time he opens his mouth.
       Fwiw, I would follow him.
       • alwyn 8.2.1.1

         1 September 2017 at 11:56 pm

         I’m afraid you don’t understand the rules.
         The deputy-PM has to be an MP.
         The “Green” party are dead. Shaw isn’t going to be in Parliament and cannot therefore be in the job you are suggesting for him.
         Perhaps between 2017 and 2020 someone can organise a genuine Green Party. Somewhere where people like Kennedy Graham will be welcome instead of being called a traitor.
         • WILD KATIPO 8.2.1.1.1

           2 September 2017 at 12:26 am

           … ” The “Green” party are dead. Shaw isn’t going to be in Parliament and cannot therefore be in the job you are suggesting for him ” …

           So alwyn the psychic delivers the future from on high….

           Only in your dreams. And guess what ,… National are not going to be in government and that’s not just guessing or trying to use pseudo science to allege a scenario , – that’s just a fact based on numbers.
           • alwyn 8.2.1.1.1.1

             2 September 2017 at 9:18 am

             I’m tempted to ask what “numbers” you use to come up with that prediction.
             Mine are the very simple ones of the latest polls and the fact that the Green Party vote drops by quite a lot between the final polls and the election.
             Yours’ appear to be your own wishful thinking. Alternatively they are the sort of argument that is based on “All the people I know ….” You can readily argue that you think there is a good chance that Labour will be able to form a Government but not that that it is a certainty.
     • Pat 8.2.2

       1 September 2017 at 10:38 pm

       two words…Paula Bennet
       • WILD KATIPO 8.2.2.1

         2 September 2017 at 12:29 am

         … ” two words…Paula Bennet ” …

         Here’s another two words : Yes please.

         We need a sideshow to keep us all amused and National out of govt for a very long , long time.
     • WILD KATIPO 8.2.3

       2 September 2017 at 12:35 am

       … ” Please don’t let this guy become deputy pm. It’s clear Labour’s depth is lacking, but surely there’s someone better than Davis ” …

       Spoken like a true short sighted narcissistic Nat.

       I presume you’re quite happy with New Zealanders being held without trial on Christmas Island in substandard conditions… Kelvin Davis wasn’t , and furthermore ,- unlike Key or English , – had balls enough to speak up about it.
9. swordfish 9

   1 September 2017 at 9:13 pm

   Latest Colmar Brunton Poll

   Headline – A majority of people would not be comfortable with Winston Peters taking a senior cabinet post in the next government

   Q = “Would you be comfortable with the leader of New Zealand First Winston Peters taking a senior cabinet position in the next government such as finance minister or deputy prime minister?”

   Yes 40%
   No 51%
   Don’t know 9%

   https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/majority-kiwis-not-comfortable-winston-peters-taking-senior-role-in-government-1-news-poll
   • swordfish 9.1

     1 September 2017 at 9:34 pm

     Compare with 2014 (albeit less specific questions)

     Colmar Brunton Poll (February 2014)

     Winston Peters

     •43% say he should be a Minister
     •43% say he should not

     3 News Reid Research (January 2014)

     Winston Peters

     •54% say John Key should work with Winston Peters (61% of Nat supporters)
     36% say he should rule him out (32% of Nat supporters)
     • swordfish 9.1.1

       1 September 2017 at 10:44 pm

       Winston Peters – Changing Fortunes

       (UMR – Net Favourability Ratings)

       2008 Donation Scandal destroys Peters’ reputation

       In Jan 2008 , Peters enjoyed a small positive net-rating of + 2%
       But it went downhill very fast
       It flipped to negative in Feb 2008 minus 9%.
       By September 08, at the height of the donation scandal, his net- Favourability rating had plummeted to minus 57%.

       2012-13 Voter dissatisfaction with Govt + 2015 Northland win rehabilitates Peters’ reputation

       Fast Forward to 2011 & Peters was still heavily in negative territory
       Eg minus 30 in June 2011

       But the Public’s view of him rapidly improved through 2012-13
       moving into positive + 6 territory late 2013

       Briefly heading back into very mild negatives through 2014
       then soaring to new heights of popularity after his Northland by-election triumph (+ 21 & + 24 through mid-2015) even surpassing John Key

       Last Favourability figure available for Winnie + 6 Nov 2015
10. Grey Area 10

    1 September 2017 at 9:26 pm

    I can’t see today’s posts from Tracey or Blip on my Android phone. A couple of us reported this also about a week ago.
    • lprent 10.1

      1 September 2017 at 9:37 pm

      I will have a look at it. It seems to be a caching issue with the software that is is used with the mobiles. It came a up a week ago.

      I actually have a clear weekend…, and I start on some pre-election time off next week.
      • Grey Area 10.1.1

        1 September 2017 at 9:41 pm

        Thanks lprent.
        • lprent 10.1.1.1

          2 September 2017 at 9:18 am

          It is odd. All of the mobile settings are correct as far as I can see.

          What type of mobile is it? And are you seeing the mobile site? Looks pretty red.
          • AsleepWhileWalking 10.1.1.1.1

            2 September 2017 at 5:31 pm

            Same issue with posts from those authors not showing.

            Phone Huawei Y3, recently purchased, Chrome, mobile version of site (but did show desk version briefly today).
          • red-blooded 10.1.1.1.2

            2 September 2017 at 5:35 pm

            I’ve been having the same problem, on an iphone 5S, using Safari.
            • AncientGeek 10.1.1.1.2.1

              2 September 2017 at 6:24 pm

              Removed the cache.

              Seems like that works ok.

              Try it out?
              • lprent …

                2 September 2017 at 6:28 pm

                Ok that seemed to work. Let me know if you see problems.

                Looks like the mobile version prefers either no cache or its own one.
              • AsleepWhileWalking …

                2 September 2017 at 7:18 pm

                Not working still for me.

                Tried again after clearing me history just in case…no luck.
11. adam 11

    1 September 2017 at 11:14 pm

    Gotta love Neil DeGrasse Tyson
    • CoroDale 11.1

      2 September 2017 at 2:20 am

      Yes yes yes, all very approximately correct. But a little bit too simple. The official UN position isn’t accurate, it an approximation after the consideration of veto rights etc.

      http://agriculturedefensecoalition.org/

      This lady is truly speaking before the UN.

      I’m still in NRW Germany and we have heaps of air traffic. (Back in NZ next week, boarder control permitting) On “clear” sunny days they fill the skies with a haze from the planes to control the heat. Just an eyes open truth.

      In the US it’s even more complex. Sure there is climate change, but when we dumb it down, we go political, not scientific objective. Many factors involved. Reducing industrial emissions is good, and reducing emissions from cows is also good, especially as a win-win for water quality. But lets not get too righteous on the detail. The Paris deal approved mitigation tech and we have seen changes here in the last few years already.
12. CoroDale 12

    2 September 2017 at 2:35 am

    Sorry, just read the site details. Labour Movement…
    Oh, I thought it was just an independent journalism site, wandered who was doing the funding. Now I do feel a bit like a troll. But no bad intentions.

    Best wishes to the labour movement. I always support the underdog, but tables are due to turn so hang in there with the good work guys. Yeah, lots to do back in the physical world, so saying good bye.

    Peace, Love and Light,
    D
    • lprent 12.1

      2 September 2017 at 9:18 am

      With a very broad definition of “labour movement”. The site costs about $134 in direct costs per month to run. The funding pretty much comes from the voluntary contributions (see the donate button in the upper top left). All of the posts are by volunteers either here or reposted with permission from other sites. Moderation and any other support are voluntary. I supply the hardware – I’m a programmer so I have a lot of old gear 🙂
    • One Anonymous Bloke 12.2

      2 September 2017 at 6:34 pm

      Don’t confuse the labour movement with the Labour Party.

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