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Daily Review – 02/05/2016

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 pm, May 2nd, 2016 - 32 comments
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32 comments on “Daily Review – 02/05/2016 ”

  1. whateva next? 1

    “…It was him”

  2. Rodel 2

    Akshully I wasn’t even me at the time.I was …umm….

  3. Anne 3

    I don’t know nothing. Why don’t you ask Cameron Slater. He seems to know all the inside stuff.

  4. Macro 4

    Stopped on the way to the beach to have a look at this. Massive! A small slip about this time last year cost the employment of 50 jobs. This will slow down the mining at the site for a while, but the greed is great here. There is $75 million in gold at the bottom of it! The town is a pleasant little town in many ways, but it suffers of course. It is one of the lowest decile places in the country, with an earthquake (Blasting) or two every day – just to keep you on your toes. With all that gold going through the place you would think some of it would stay around….. lol.
    This company has a track record of dirty dealings (even more so than Newmount the previous owners). We need to get rid of the miners. Shut this monstrosity down and let the town get on with its life in peace.

    • swordfish 4.1

      Waihi, of course, played a pivotal role in early New Zealand Labour history.

      Had a quick look at the Party Vote stats from 2014 General Election. Looks fairly evenly divided between Opposition and Government Blocs (though, once you include Maori Roll voters in the town, the Oppo has a bit of an edge).
      Which, of course, nicely mirrors opinion in the town way back in 1912 during that pivotal and very bitter 6 month Waihi miners strike – half the town strikers and their families / the other half scabs.

      Most towns that size in the Upper North Island tend much more to the Right, so it’s good to see there’s still a degree of anti-Tory sentiment there (even if a chunk of it has gone to Winnie’s Party).

    • Alan W 4.2

      What is your vision for the “peaceful life” that Waihi would endure after that?????
      Really, your comment is absurd.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 4.2.1

        It could become a financial hub for money laundering.

        • Alan W

          OAB, are you a controller on this site?
          How come you were able to see my post and comment on it before the 10 minute discretionary period was up?

          • weka

            It’s not a ten minute discretionay period. Your comment appears immediately (unless you are a first time commenter), and you have ten minutes to edit it but everyone can still see it.

      • Draco T Bastard 4.2.2

        Actually, your comment is. It assumes that not working for peanuts to make some bludgers richer is a penance.

        • Alan W

          Do you actually know anyone that works at the mine draco?
          I do, may of my family live in the local area, believe me they do not work for peanuts.
          I suggest that you and macro talk to the locals and get their opinion before making ill informed sweeping comments on their behalf.

          • One Anonymous Bloke

            In terms of comparative wealth peanuts isn’t far wrong. Whatever they’re earning – and I expect the proximity of the Aussie mining industry keeps wages up, unlike the slave mines of more “deregulated” Objectivist countries – it’s not going to take them into Antipodes Trust Group client category, let alone Mossack Fonseca.

            Enough to keep them comfortable until the gold runs out. Your comment at 4.2 implies that your vision for the town when that happens is, let’s say unimaginative.

            What about your previous statements that trade is the only way? You cited extreme weather buildings as an example. I’d add IP to that at the very least.

          • Draco T Bastard


            Yeah, I think I’ll call BS on that.

          • Jenny Kirk

            People from Ngati Hau (a northern hapu) recently visited Waihi to investigate how the gold mining affects the town, and how it works, etc etc – because they have a gold miner interested in their own rohe.

            Well, they came back from their trip, totally UNimpressed Alan W.
            The locals who they talked to, and they talked with many of them, would like to totally rid their town of the gold mining.

            I have been privileged to read the report to their hapu of their findings, and it was a thorough investigation they made, lasting several days.

            • Colonial Viper

              The locals who they talked to, and they talked with many of them, would like to totally rid their town of the gold mining.

              Where are the local shopkeepers going to replace their lost revenues from mine workers from? The shopkeepers said they wanted to lose customers, yes?

              Did they talk to local Waihi workers who wanted their families to lose their weekly pay packets and to go back on the dole?

              • Jenny Kirk

                Yes, they did. Surprising, eh ?

                Maybe Waihi people think there may be other means of earning a living – but when that living is currently just about at dole levels, maybe they think that’s preferable !

      • Macro 4.2.3

        You obviously don’t live in Waihi.
        With daily earthquakes – life is not peaceful.
        Subsidence – mining under your home – there is no way out for many.
        For those who have to endure life there, the present is not peaceful.

  5. swordfish 5

    Latest poll in the US (conducted mid-April).

    Nearly a quarter of US voters say they will either stay home or vote for a third party candidate if Clinton and Trump are the two candidates in the US Presidential Election (this sentiment is especially strong among those under the age of 40, who also, of course, happen to be Sanders’ key demographic).

    Amongst likely voters, Clinton and Trump are tied on 38% (a surprise to those expecting an easy Clinton victory on the back of Trump’s poor Favourability ratings).

    According to the poll, if Trump is the Republican nominee, 66% of GOP supporters would vote for him, 10% for Clinton, 16% for a third party candidate, 5% would stay home on election Day.

    If Clinton is the Democratic nominee, 75% of Democrats would support her, 11% would go Trump, 11% third party, 3% stay home (given that there are far more registered Democrats than Republicans, that 11% defection to Trump easily outweighs the 10% GOP defection to Clinton).

    Among Independents, Trump leads Clinton 38% / 27% – but almost a third of Independents say they’d either choose a third candidate or stay at home. That emphasises, once again, just how unpopular Clinton is with Independents, something already highlighted by their strong to overwhelming support for Sanders in the primaries.

    The poll finds Women tending slightly – but only slightly – towards Clinton and Men slightly preferring Trump.

    Trump leads among White voters / while Hillary enjoys sizeable leads among Black and other minority demographics (although the latter, of course, are also less likely to turn out on the Day).

    While an overwhelming majority of Republicans consider Clinton to be a liberal (as opposed to a moderate or a conservative), less than a third of Democrat voters see her that way, with almost half saying she’s moderate (ie centrist), and a not insignificant minority of 14% of Dems considering her politically conservative (compared to close to zero GOP supporters).

    • Wayne 5.1

      It is way too early for such polls to be determinative.

      The election is 6 months away. The debates will be very important, which I am confident Hillary will win.

      Fundamentally, I cannot see how Hillary does not win. Surely she will have an advantage with women, Blacks and Latinos. In total that is around 65% of the electorate.

      Will 11% of Democrats really go for Trump? That is a huge amount. If this group is largely men (who are a minority of Democrats), that means around 30% of Democrat men are going for Trump. Is that likely?

      • One Anonymous Bloke 5.1.1

        Which one of them is more likely to be a member of an executive council that enables money-laundering?

      • swordfish 5.1.2

        Hillary only has a slight advantage with women according to this poll. Blacks and Latinos among the least likely to turn out on the Day.

        Not sure why you assume that all of the 11% potential Democrat defectors are men ? And strongly doubt that, even in the incredibly unlikely event that they were, they would constitute anything like 30% of all male Democrats.

        Do agree, however, that it’s still early days.

      • Colonial Viper 5.1.3

        The election is 6 months away. The debates will be very important, which I am confident Hillary will win.

        Sure…like when Trump asks what really happened in Benghazi?

        Or what happened to your emails and your home computer and personal smart phone?

        Or…how’s that FBI investigation going, Hilary?

        Yep, she’s on a winner here, right Wayne.

    • swordfish 5.2

      I should add that a majority of both Republicans and voters in general do not consider Trump to be a conservative (ie of the Right).

    • Colonial Viper 5.3

      Nearly a quarter of US voters say they will either stay home or vote for a third party candidate if Clinton and Trump are the two candidates in the US Presidential Election

      If this actually occurred, wouldn’t the US Presidential Election experience a record voter turnout?

      • swordfish 5.3.1

        True. But polls always significantly underestimate non-voting anyway. I might take a look through a few other recent US polls and do a comparison. Certainly the Pollster concerned felt the high degree of defection from both parties should be seen as the major finding of these results.

  6. Sabine 6

    anyone see this?

    I find it an uncomfortable read, but one that i can’t disagree too much with, and to an extend it is very sad how the actions of our own government can affect the reputation of a people.


    Quote: ” Even towards supposedly close New Zealand, which puts the NZ in Anzac, we behave boorishly.
    Australia and New Zealand have long agreed to allow the people of each country to live in the other, but Australia has reneged on part of the deal by allowing the Kiwi dole-bludger myth to dictate policy.
    Australia now treats arriving New Zealanders as guest workers to be tolerated and taxed, but to be excluded from such luxuries as the disability insurance scheme for which they have to pay.
    Then it exports those criminals imprisoned for a year with New Zealand citizenship, no matter how much a product of Australia they might be. Far too many have been deported for NZ to deal with who moved to Australia even before their first day of school. How it is fair to expect the Kiwis to rehabilitate Australian crooks is never explained. Australia can do it, so it does.
    It is difficult to underestimate the ill feeling this creates in New Zealand, yet most Australians are oblivious to it and the government entirely shameless about it.
    In contrast, Australians who move to New Zealand can vote after living there for two years. If they are without work, they get welfare. If they are injured, they are looked after by the national no-fault compensation scheme.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/australia-is-a-bad-neighbour-and-we-should-be-better-than-this-20160501-goj6c9.html#ixzz47U9QVLxl
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  7. Draco T Bastard 7

    BREAKING: TTIP leaks confirm dangers for digital rights

    While the European Commission claims to be very transparent in its reports, the public receives a non-complete state of play after each round of negotiations. The leak is a real, internal state of play on the negotiations, clearly reflecting the lobbying efforts of certain parts of industry from both sides of the Atlantic. A first reading of the leak has allowed us to identified developments on digital rights that are worrisome:

    In the leaks analysed by EDRi, there is no single mention of the public, NGOs or civil society in general.

    The TPPA and the TTIP are, quite simply, a corporate take over of society. We have become fascists.

    • aerobubble 7.1

      International agreements are like any contract, unconsciousable ones are set aside. Take treatment of right side of the road drivers are treated the same, they clearly are not and should be heavily levied if they wish to drive here, its unconsciousable we accept the international edict of similar treatment for drivers from left and right road drivers. And it follows all unconsciousable clauses in treaties.

      • aerobubble 7.1.1

        So we need to take the issue to pur courts and create the precedent that unconsciousable treaty clauses can be over ridden, even the investigation would illicit facts, oversight oten overseas, etc and public concern even leading to boycotts of businesses. Then they might deal to the chinese standard of meat we now allow in our supermarkets, its a bloody disgrace.

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