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Daily Review 02/08/2017

Written By: - Date published: 5:30 pm, August 2nd, 2017 - 72 comments
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This provides Standardistas the opportunity to review events of the day.

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72 comments on “Daily Review 02/08/2017 ”

  1. Pete 1

    I trust the hysterical don’t burn themselves out in their Ardern-induced meltdowns.

    There are a few weeks until election time, you can’t sprint all the time.

    • “hysterical”, Pete?
      Leave Jacinda’s child-bearer potential out of this, aye!

      • In Vino 1.1.1

        Pete may need an etymological breakdown, Robert.

        • repateet

          Right, I’ll put it in English. (no pun intended)

          A lot of commenters on various sites yesterday and today went nasty, vicious and personal about Ardern’s elevation. I don’t know if they will be able to keep it up right up until the election, but on sites like Kiwiblog the baleful, virulent malevolence poured out. The usuals were even more than usually right (no pun intended) out of their trees. Nothing new there I suppose.

          Now, for that entomological breakdown …

          • In Vino

            Etymological please. Insects are an unnecessary complication.

          • srylands

            I would say that some Kiwiblog commentators were politely raising her lack of employment experience and her high reliance on empathy rather than analysis. Quite legitimate points. Of course time will tell.

            It would be great if she could have a positive impact on Labour’s policy platform, but that would seem very difficult to do in a about 4 weeks. Not impossible though. There are plenty of people around New Zealand and Australia who could be quickly engaged to put together some flagship policies. You don’t need many. Housing, immigration, climate change, UBI, capital taxation are examples. Sure they would need to be paid, but I think some of the analysts are so desperate for good policy that a deal could be cut on the hourly rates.

            Personally, I would also dramatically ditch the MOU with the Greens at a press conference. Then express a preference for a coalition with TOP. It is just so obviously a solution.


            Then Jacinda would be Prime Minister. Simple as.

            • marty mars

              your sincerity reminds me of Walder Frey’s sincerity just before…

            • NewsFlash

              Have another beer

            • Draco T Bastard

              I would say that some Kiwiblog commentators were politely raising her lack of employment experience and her high reliance on empathy rather than analysis. Quite legitimate points.

              No they’re not.

              Born in Hamilton,[3] Ardern grew up in Morrinsville and Murupara, where her father, Ross Ardern, worked as a police officer.[4] She attended the University of Waikato, where she earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in Communications. She joined the Labour Party at a young age, and became a senior figure in the Young Labour Party. After graduating from Waikato University, she spent time working in the offices of Phil Goff and of Helen Clark as a researcher. She later spent time in London, working as a senior policy advisor.[5] In early 2008 she won election as the President of the International Union of Socialist Youth.

              She’s pretty much been in politics her entire life and at some pretty high levels. Far more such experience than, say, John Key.

              It would be great if she could have a positive impact on Labour’s policy platform, but that would seem very difficult to do in a about 4 weeks.

              Considering her time and standing in the Labour Party she’s probably already had years of mostly positive impact on Labour policy.

              Personally, I would also dramatically ditch the MOU with the Greens at a press conference.

              That would be because you’re a RWNJ who absolutely hates the idea of a Labour/Greens government.

              Then express a preference for a coalition with TOP. It is just so obviously a solution.

              Only if you’re a RWNJ… Oh, right, you are.

              Then Jacinda would be Prime Minister.

              No, then Blinglish would be which is probably your preferred goal.

      • Crunchy 1.1.2

        Hi Robert
        Nice to see your support of a very troubled man acknowledged in court. Nice to see your wild gardens on the goggle/box/interwebby thing – gave a lot of pleasure to my green fingered but fading dad. Gotta say that it’s hard to reconcile that with the oft nasty comments here – maybe it’s a groupthink/peer pressure effect but thought you would have been above that stuff.

        • Robert Guyton

          Hi Crunchy – thanks for your comments. I’m surprised you find my comments here to be nasty; I always try for amusing and pointed, but I guess it’s a matter of interpretation. If you can find a particular comment you read as nasty, paste it here and I’ll try to see it your way, thanks.

      • Crunchy 1.1.3

        Hang on. Jacinda AKAIK is on record stating that she wanted to prioritise a family over the Labour leadership role. Now she’s being asked about it (not challenged, not discriminated, just asked) the whole screeching outrage comes out. Hilarious really, also incredibly dishonest – not just by her.

        • One Anonymous Bloke

          If you try very very hard, I’m sure you can choke on it, and I could use a laugh.

          • Crunchy

            A laugh is seeing One Angry Bitch becoming more irrelevant and impotent by the day.

            • marty mars

              wow you are tough LOL cruncy in town yeehaa ha ha ha

              • In Vino

                But Crunchy is totally wrong. Jacinda acknowledged that she had previously spoken on the topic and opened herself to that question. She said so. She admonished him on behalf of all other women who, unlike herself, had not spoken on the topic, and should not now be questioned upon it, as the sports boofhead was implying they should.
                Can’t Crunchy get anything right?

            • One Anonymous Bloke



              Would you like a spade?

        • srylands

          It is her business. She will either have kids or not, while PM or not.

          Do you ask the young women you work with if they are planning babies? It is fraught with danger. Some women may be trying for children but have fertility issues. Asking them then triggers trauma.

          I have never been a Jacinda fan, but this line about babies and her teeth and her looks is bad news.

    • BM 1.2

      The left does rather have an overblown messiah complex.

  2. Ad 2

    Just reminds me what a left coalition government is going to face, should it get elected:

    Top work from Yes Minister there.

  3. Tamati Tautuhi 3

    Things are warming up in the Hive ?

  4. Johnr 4

    Now that Jacindas fertility issues are being openly discussed, can we please have a health report on Brownlee and Bennett, also maybe a mental health report on Joyce, that strange giggle is a worry. Also as a whisky drinker of the same age, a report on Winnies liver could be useful.

  5. Whispering Kate 5

    Yes there are some serious future health issues facing some sitting on the Government benches. I even noticed Simon Bridges was looking very pudgy these days, too much troughing in Bellamy’s mehinks. There is a gym in the building, why on earth are they not availing themselves of firstly some discipline in their eating habits and secondly doing some daily exercise to burn off the excess they are accumulating.

    Wha a cheek to even question Adern’s future wih children – seriously the opposition is in panic mode. About time too.

    • BM 5.1

      Bridges desperately needs a different hairstyle, I don’t think he could look anymore smarmy if he tried.

      His current look is very Severus Snape these days, it’s not working well for him.

      • Snape turned out to be a Good Guy. No chance that Bridges will.

        • Whispering Kate

          He looks to me, like he should be standing on the running board of a 1920’s car with a lethal weapon in his hand boot legging – scenes from Elliot Ness. And that voice, it grates like chalk on a blackboard.

          • greywarshark

            Whispering Kate
            +100 Snap

          • Robert Guyton

            More in front of said car, with Chester Borrows at the wheel. Plus, fingernails on a chalkboard; in fact, “Fingernails” would be a good moniker… Simon “Fingernails” Bridges.

            • Whispering Kate

              Robert I like your style – puts a smile on my dial. I am off to bed – onwards and upwards to another day in the life of the Labour Party – God bless them all and may the wind be at their backs for the future, just pray they don’t stuff it up on the journey.

              Love your green philosophy to life – we do our bit up here, compost everything, recycle as much as possible, have solar, double glazing, and try to reduce our footprint as much as we can. We have bird feeders everywhere and help our little friends which is duly appreciated. Every little bit helps our overworked and underloved planet.

              • Good morning, Kate, sorry I missed your comment last night. I like the sound of what you are doing, in both the green and red forms. I’ve a day of pruning apple trees ahead of me; we now have 12 orchards to attend-to around the region and while that’s exciting, it certainly makes July and August busy months. Fruit tree sale this weekend as well. That’s big for us; we sell about 800 trees and they all have to be bagged and carried to waiting cars though talking with those newbie tree-planters is reward in itself.

                • Whispering Kate

                  Robert, the one thing we have perfected is compost – it is crumbly, black, smells sweet and full of worms, we collect horse poo which we intersperse with rough and soft foliage and peelings from the kitchen. We have two large bins and it keeps our vegetable garden humming.

                  We are going to harvest broadbeans in about 3 weeks, we have kale, cavolo nero and silverbeet growing really well and heaps of fresh herbs. This last summer we had 4 tiny toms growing huge and 8 heirloom toms as well – our freezer is stuffed with tiny toms which are excellent put in casseroles and cut up heirlooms for spag bol. Our naval orange is loaded with lucious fruit – the birds love apple and oranges halved and put out for them. I make my own bird food – a mixture of fat, dried bread crumbs and wild bird mix and my partner has made a few cute feeders which hold a slice of grainy bread spread with fat as well and its fun watching the antics of the birds.

                  Did you know a family of 6 starlings all fit into the bird bath at once chattering away – we have heaps of different species of birds including natives like tuis and wax eyes and fantails. I think the fun and games at the bird bath (and we have a few of them) is well worth taking the time to sit and watch.

                  The joy of gardening and the sounds of birds – bliss. I always enjoy your comments.

                  • Perfik!
                    Naval oranges though! Lucky, lucky you; I struggle to keep Meyer lemons going through the winter down here and they’re the toughest of all citrus. Naval oranges… mmmmmmmmmm
                    Kereru are our most common birds at present, sitting on the roof-ridge, feeding in the kowhai and the tagasaste, flying low along the paths…have you heard them coo? Very gentle. Ruru too, at night. Tui and bellbird in the pate and coprosma, eating berries and seeds. Oh for some kokako and huia!

          • OncewasTim

            Eggsektery! Oi oi oi oi oi
            … worse than a bloody John Key
            Tear ranga
            Ear Nu Zull
            Moi fushills tell me

            Sometimes it takes me a few secs to work out what the fuck the goi ekshully sed (goan ford)

      • Key out-smarmed Bridges, BM, by a greasy smile.

    • Keepcalmcarryon 5.2

      Brownlees blood pressure and cholesterol must be issues of national security with his current portfolio. God knows his mouth is.

  6. JC 6

    ‘There is now a cloud over the Office of the Auditor-General and it is untenable for Martin Matthews to remain in his role, the Green Party says.”

  7. Sabine 7

    Can anyone check what happend to swordfish? Cause he seems a bit off tonight – Open mike, i think someone is ‘impersonating’ him.


  8. swordfish 8

    Didn’t expect you to take it seriously, Sabine

    Cheap Helmut Kohl joke

    My apologies

    [took too much of my time trying to figure it out in the back end 🙁 Taking you out of moderation now – weka]

    • Sabine 8.1

      i actually thought that someone was impersonating you. But you pretend that a. i stole your avatar, b. that i posted at you, and a fucking crappy post to boot. and you call that a cheap Helmut Kohl joke?

      go tell your cheap chokes to someone else, your humor is lacking.

      keep your apologies, they have no worth for me.

    • swordfish 8.2



      Should’ve realised from Sabine’s original reply that she was by no means amused

      Social Intelligence & all that

      Helmut Kohl’s clearly got a lot to answer for 🙂

  9. Pat 9

    “The new data, says Hogg, shows that the remaining forking cracks in the Larsen C ice shelf are growing in the direction of a feature known as the Bawden Ice Rise – an outpost which supports the ice shelf, a little like scaffolding, or the pillar of a building’s facade. Should the cracks continue in a straight line and the ice shelf break around such a point, she adds, the support would be lost, a result that could greatly reduce the ability of the ice shelf to act as a buttress, and hold back the flow of glaciers into the sea.

    “If the ice that is resting on those pinning points does break off, that is definitely a concern,” said Hogg.”


  10. Cinny 10

    A much needed reality check for Coleman, who is crippling our health sector.

    “An “incredibly damning” Treasury report criticised the Minister and Ministry of Health’s (MOH) failure to deliver an effective mental health strategy.

    A report published online shows Treasury officials pushed Finance Minister Steven Joyce to shelve Health Minister Jonathan Coleman’s strategy two months ahead of Budget 2017.”

    Colemans continued negligence to mental health in particular has seriously messed up and more than likely killed people.

    Whenever Coleman has been questioned in Parliament his MO is hand picked numbers, running down and bullying the questioner rounded it up by blaming someone else.

    Rather than listen or heed advice from those working in or affected by our health sector he carries on doing just what he wants.

    I’m so fucken sick of people suffering, it shouldn’t be happening so much.

    We need change

    • Tamati Tautuhi 10.1

      We used to have a very good mental health system which actually cared about people with mental disabilities ?

      • Cinny 10.1.1

        Am not sure if we’ve ever had a good mental health system Tamati.

        Back in the early 90’s a friend studying away from home, first time away, didn’t know anyone, went to the hospital for help, explained they were suicidal. Hospital made them an appointment for three weeks time.
        That weekend they were taken to hospital via ambulance for an overdose, stomach pumped repetitively, then locked in the psyc ward for 3 days, with only 1 appointment with a shrink in that time.
        Family arrived and took the 19 year old home.

        No follow up from the hospital. That person was so lucky they had a good family to support them afterwards, but that good family had no idea of the suffering and mental illness that person had gone through, they kept it well hidden, due the persons lack of understanding and personal shame.

    • RedLogix 10.2

      I’m so fucken sick of people suffering, it shouldn’t be happening so much.

      Jeeze that’s heartfelt. We’ve always stigmatised and pushed mental health out to the margins. I would love to see a party have the ballz to run with this issue.

      • Cinny 10.2.1

        We’ve always stigmatised and pushed mental health out to the margins. I would love to see a party have the ballz to run with this issue.

        Yes please RedLogix.

        Am upset about the management of our health sector, in particularly mental health.

        Education could be given in schools re suicide, mental health etc. Brain health is just as important as healthy eating and exercise. Kids could take that knowledge home to help themselves and recognise signs of such in their family and friends, giving them the ability to allow better understanding and the tools help others or know what to do.

        But if the sector is stretched as much as it is now, when people ask for help from professionals, who knows when they will get it. And that’s no fault of those who work in the sector, as they are not the ones responsible for funding/resource allocation etc.

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