That parliament trespass 'storm in a teacup' hardly went two days let alone two years, Winston most likely saw it as mana from heaven, a great opportunity for a comeback fight.
Thinking more on yesterdays polling I would say, barring some catastrophe in the Labour ranks, Luxon/National most likely has reached poll peak.
And if that is not enough to convince you that perhaps those who demanded that we all take the Pfizer shot may have made a monumental cock -up this study examines the over 25% increase in emergency cardiac related incidences in the 16-40 years age group in Israel that correlate directly with the Pfizer vaccine program.
Moreover, there is a robust and statistically significant association between the weekly CA and ACS call counts, and the rates of 1st and 2nd vaccine doses administered to this age group. At the same time there is no observed statistically significant association between COVID-19 infection rates and the CA and ACS call counts.
There were warnings about this… right from the beginning of the Pfizer roll out and the cases of myo and pericarditis began showing up. But still they pushed this…no forced this…. onto young people who are at minimal risk of serious Covid illness.
Second, it is essential to raise awareness among patients and clinicians with respect to related symptoms (e.g., chest discomfort and shortness of breath) following vaccination or COVID-19 infection to ensure that potential harm is minimized. This is especially important among the younger population and particularly young females, who often receive less diagnostic evaluation for adverse cardiac events compared to males15.
What was new information to me was how for earlier childhood vaccines such as for measles, the overall reduction in mortality was greater than any reduction in measles could explain. And this result was replicated for many live vaccine types.
In other words it seems vaccines often have an impact on mortality – both positive and negative – outside of the disease being vaccinated for. And that industry trials never test for this.
And if the obvious questions are asked, the response is usually "anti-vaxxer!"
Interesting that the much aligned Astra Zeneca, aka 'the clot shot', displayed a much more positive effect on mortality than the Pfizer and Moderna products…providing it is only given to older people who are at less risk from the adverse effects and at more risk from Covid.
The Ministry of Health here in NZ should halt the administration of the Pfizer product to anyone under the age of fifty unless they are at much greater risk from Covid. Although for far too many it is already too late.
As Stabell-Benn quite specifically states…the risks (and especially of cardiovascular damage) from the mRNA products are simply too high.
In another discussion the other day a similar question was asked. The answer was depressing…but I fear accurate.
Decisions were made to do this thing (in this case the mass roll out of an experimental product with dubious efficacy) as a largely knee jerk reaction to a perceived crisis, with scant regard to the potential harms and the possibility that it might not fix the crisis anyway.
It has been an 'all eggs in the one basket' approach and those making this decision are going to defend it to the bitter end… regardless of the evidence that emerges that proves it was most likely a mistake.
There were warning signs right from the beginning that this was not a safe or effective option for all, but they had made their minds up and dug in.
Silencing any criticism of the vaccine and casting slurs on those who voiced rightful hesitancy should have been a loud warning to all that there was something not quite right here. Their decision to force this product on just about everyone should have been based on sound scientific evidence that should have withstood full scrutiny and open debate.
But no. Oh, no…there will be no review and there will be no back down and there will be no apology to the thousands of Kiwis negatively affected by this. These people have done this thing that will impact many of us well into the future…they have to stay true to their mistake. They will justify this to the final trump.
And Trev's the villain for leaving the sprinklers on.
Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper charges in a memoir out May 10 that former President Trump said when demonstrators were filling the streets around the White House following the death of George Floyd: "Can't you just shoot them?Just shoot them in the legs or something?"
And Trev's the villain for leaving the sprinklers on.
And he accepted the recommendation to trespass former parliamentarians among others by Parliamentary Security Services. OMG how dare he. Off with his head!
"Mallard said that the actual decision to trespass Peters and King was not made by him, but by Parliamentary Security, who he had delegated responsibility to."
Does that make Parliamentary Security thugs too? Does that make Mallard an idiot for delegating stuff to professionals? Does it make Mallard an idiot for not doing everything off his own bat and not involving people with experience and knowledge?
"Does that make Mallard an idiot for delegating stuff to professionals? Does it make Mallard an idiot for not doing everything off his own bat and not involving people with experience and knowledge?"
After his antics during the protest, maybe old dogs can learn new tricks.
Here it is exactly. If you find yourself wanting to make the argument that not all women can get pregnant therefore TWAW, then you have no actual concept of class politics. Female is a sex class, and it is only females that are affected by abortion and abortion laws. Abortion laws sit in a broader context of how patriarchal societies have controlled women as a sex class precisely because they are the group of people that give birth.
if women cannot name our own class or politics we lose the ability to name what our liberation is. If you still don’t get why so many women are angry about abortion and/or gender ideology, this is why. We know this shit inside out and we know just how precarious our allowed rights are.
This lot do not even bother to try. Amazing linguistic contortions to avoid the use of the forbidden words "woman" and "mother". In a paper about Perinatal Mental Health.
That report of 72 pages contains many mentions of “mother” and “women”!?
Of course, you’re free to have your opinion about “this lot”, but you could at least try basing it on accurate input & information and before you write them off so easily.
Did you look at the many photos in the report? They tell a story too and are there to support the text in a visual sense, but it seems only (the) mothers/women are featured …
The pdf I downloaded had this right at the beginning:
Throughout this report we use the inclusive term ‘birthing parent’ in place of mother and/or women, in recognition of the fact that not everyone who is pregnant or gives birth is a woman, and that not all mothers are birthing parents. Sometimes though, when quoting or paraphrasing others’ research, we use women and/or mother in that context. We recognise that the majority of birthing parents are women, and that the particular social and cultural expectations placed on mothers can be a source of perinatal stress. Our use of inclusive language does not diminish the feminist lens with which we have approached this work
and adhered to it from that point on, unless it was quoting from someone who used the words mother/women.
Men however, retain the role of father, with the inclusion of non-birthing parents.
Incognito, we have a large number of women in this country with English as a second language, we probably have larger numbers of women with diminished mental capacity than TiF. Conflating gender identity of "women", with biological women impacts on health messages to large groups of women in NZ.
Not only is the gender identity of women a problem, it appears that when biology matters, women are now no longer able to use the word women to denote biological women.
It has surprised me, the number of men so insistent on the requirement of women calling other men women.
No amount of examples of how institutional capture of this removal of women from medical literature, advice, legislation however, seems to make a difference.
Thank you for that note. However, in my opinion, it does not corroborate Anker’s comment.
I also fail to see the conflation in that report, but you and others may see it differently. The subject matter of the report is perinatal mental health, so obviously it is about births and biological women and not about women in general (NB English is not my first language either)
The photos tell a story, as I said. If you don’t like to story or its framing and wording then you probably won’t like to visual story either.
You reply was to visubversa, so I replied to that. I know the stat that Anker was reporting on, but she hasn't linked, and I believe it is from Australia, but she's the one to follow up.
For medical advice, photos (for me) are the equivalent of white space, unless they are demonstrative.
I have spent a lot of time in the last couple of years in South Auckland's medical wards for women. Your English is without fault. The ability of many of the women I have shared waiting rooms and wards with is limited to basic English. Even with accompanying family members they will have trouble understanding what is happening.
I have also had experience of being with someone with limited mental capacity. Introducing terms like, people who menstruate, instead of women/girls does have a negative impact on their ability to recognise that they are part of that cohort, and what the following advice may mean.
If those with gender identities are unable to separate their gender identity from their biological category when discussing medical issues, I believe the problem is their inability to separate the two. This is not solved by accommodating that failure.
The only people who birth children and suffer perinatal mental health problems are biological women.
Indeed, my reply was to Visubversa @ 6.1.1.2.1 and not to Anker at all. My apologies for the mix up.
FWIW, I don’t have a problem with the language in and of the 72-page report. Rather than conflating issues, whilst being cognisant of the sensitivities and acknowledging these, the authors were clear and consistent in their use of language in their report. I don’t think anybody should read more into it than there is in the report – it would distract from the important message(s) about perinatal mental health.
I found 1 in the summary. Plus one reference to maternal. The rest of it is all "birthing parents".
"Make it easier for whānau/family to spend time with and support new parents and pēpi.
This could include:
extending paid parental leave entitlements to support all parents (i.e. fathers/non-birthing parents as well as mothers/birthing parents) to spend time bonding with their baby and focusing on their whānau
Suicide is the leading cause of maternal death in Aotearoa, and wāhine Māori are three times more likely than Pākehā to die by suicide during pregnancy or within six weeks of birth."
I can not size my image in the comment to Molly, maybe you can lend a helping hand? It shows a decent size in the preview but then does not work when posted. sorry for the mess.
'Burn out' and 'Fade away' are just about synonyms. Surely 'Go down in flames' is a
better metaphor for his purpose.
Simon, for all his degrees (how on earth did he get them??) never had a proper grasp of our language. When leader of the Opposition, he tried to use the expression, "The cure is worse than the disease."
Unfortunately, he blurted out, "The medicine is worse than the cure." It took a couple of days before he admitted he had got it wrong.
And then there was his ridiculous first interview with John Campbell..
Not all of us are old enough to remember popular music that belonged identifiably to the tradition of English lyric poetry – and was therefore of some interest.
Bryce Edwards needs [deleted] so he gets perspective on his ‘petty’ comments about Trevor Mallard. Oh, not the good protestors! Oh what rogues.
[you cannot wish or suggest harm on people here, especially not public figures involved in fraught political debates. And please link so others know what you are referring to – weka]
Sorry for it appearing that way. Definitely not the case.
I don’t wish to link to any of his ‘democracy’ if it involves supporting, however indirectly, a violent protest. The attack on the system, on the speaker of the house is very poor. And if we were in many other countries if a mob camped in parliament and behaved as they did…
I would suggest that Mr Edwards should put himself in the shoes of those who were considered fair game, not whatever he considers petty. Or whatever the talking point is he is spouting.
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Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
Hon Andrew Bayly, Minister for Small Business and Manufacturing At the Southland Otago Regional Engineering Collective (SOREC) Summit, 18 April, Dunedin Ngā mihi nui, Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Ko Whanganui aho Good Afternoon and thank you for inviting me to open your summit today. I am delighted ...
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Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Paul Goldsmith is congratulating Mataaho Collective for winning the Golden Lion for best participant in the main exhibition at the Venice Biennale. "Congratulations to the Mataaho Collective for winning one of the world's most prestigious art prizes at the Venice Biennale. “It is good ...
The Government is reforming financial services to improve access to home loans and other lending, and strengthen customer protections, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly and Housing Minister Chris Bishop announced today. “Our coalition Government is committed to rebuilding the economy and making life simpler by cutting red tape. We are ...
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Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa. The summit is co-hosted ...
A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul. “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr. The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners. “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector. "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
Asia Pacific Report Students and activist staff at Australia’s University of Sydney (USyd) have set up a Gaza solidarity encampment in support of Palestinians and similar student-led protests in the United States. The camp was pitched as mass graves, crippled hospitals, thousands of civilian deaths and the near-total destruction of ...
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RNZ News Melissa Lee has been ousted from New Zealand’s coalition cabinet and stripped of the Media portfolio, and Penny Simmonds has lost the Disability Issues portfolio in a reshuffle. Climate Change and Revenue Minister Simon Watts will take Lee’s spot in cabinet. Simmonds was a minister outside of cabinet. ...
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The Fairer Future coalition of anti-poverty groups say Whaikaha must be properly funded going forward, and that to argue that poor financial management of the new Ministry is a red herring by the Prime Minister. ...
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Can we open it? Yes, we can!
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/466434/opening-date-set-for-long-delayed-manawatu-bridge
Was going to do a post, dropping it here in case it gets lost. Watch and weep.
https://twitter.com/kevorkian82/status/1521576452923473921?s=21
Great post Weka. There will be a house price crash in NZ.
I'd hope someone in government can frame that as housing's 'great reset'. lol
That parliament trespass 'storm in a teacup' hardly went two days let alone two years, Winston most likely saw it as mana from heaven, a great opportunity for a comeback fight.
Thinking more on yesterdays polling I would say, barring some catastrophe in the Labour ranks, Luxon/National most likely has reached poll peak.
I'm with Mallard. That nasty bunch-Hide, Fox, Peters and King-gave succor and mana to that illegal and vicious protest outside parliament.
2 years isn't long enough.
Card -carrying pro-vax Professor Christine Stable-Benn advises young people not to take the mRNA vaccines unless at high risk from Covid infection.
A very interesting and adult discussion about the pros and cons of vaccines in general and the Covid vaccines in particular.
Go on…invest 35 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_nKoybyMGg
and a link to the paper…https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4072489
And if that is not enough to convince you that perhaps those who demanded that we all take the Pfizer shot may have made a monumental cock -up this study examines the over 25% increase in emergency cardiac related incidences in the 16-40 years age group in Israel that correlate directly with the Pfizer vaccine program.
Moreover, there is a robust and statistically significant association between the weekly CA and ACS call counts, and the rates of 1st and 2nd vaccine doses administered to this age group. At the same time there is no observed statistically significant association between COVID-19 infection rates and the CA and ACS call counts.
There were warnings about this… right from the beginning of the Pfizer roll out and the cases of myo and pericarditis began showing up. But still they pushed this…no forced this…. onto young people who are at minimal risk of serious Covid illness.
Second, it is essential to raise awareness among patients and clinicians with respect to related symptoms (e.g., chest discomfort and shortness of breath) following vaccination or COVID-19 infection to ensure that potential harm is minimized. This is especially important among the younger population and particularly young females, who often receive less diagnostic evaluation for adverse cardiac events compared to males15.
Great link, thanks Rosemary.
Well worth the half hour.
Yep. I just watched it again. Christine Stabell-Benn is one brave scientist.
What was new information to me was how for earlier childhood vaccines such as for measles, the overall reduction in mortality was greater than any reduction in measles could explain. And this result was replicated for many live vaccine types.
In other words it seems vaccines often have an impact on mortality – both positive and negative – outside of the disease being vaccinated for. And that industry trials never test for this.
..never test for this…
And if the obvious questions are asked, the response is usually "anti-vaxxer!"
Interesting that the much aligned Astra Zeneca, aka 'the clot shot', displayed a much more positive effect on mortality than the Pfizer and Moderna products…providing it is only given to older people who are at less risk from the adverse effects and at more risk from Covid.
The Ministry of Health here in NZ should halt the administration of the Pfizer product to anyone under the age of fifty unless they are at much greater risk from Covid. Although for far too many it is already too late.
As Stabell-Benn quite specifically states…the risks (and especially of cardiovascular damage) from the mRNA products are simply too high.
As you pointed out, up till now, a proponent of vaccination for Covid.
Now, not so much, unless you have age or health issues agin you.
She is right, there is a lot of research that could be done about the negative, unintended side effects of the mRNA drugs, but who would do it?
…but who would do it?
In another discussion the other day a similar question was asked. The answer was depressing…but I fear accurate.
Decisions were made to do this thing (in this case the mass roll out of an experimental product with dubious efficacy) as a largely knee jerk reaction to a perceived crisis, with scant regard to the potential harms and the possibility that it might not fix the crisis anyway.
It has been an 'all eggs in the one basket' approach and those making this decision are going to defend it to the bitter end… regardless of the evidence that emerges that proves it was most likely a mistake.
There were warning signs right from the beginning that this was not a safe or effective option for all, but they had made their minds up and dug in.
Silencing any criticism of the vaccine and casting slurs on those who voiced rightful hesitancy should have been a loud warning to all that there was something not quite right here. Their decision to force this product on just about everyone should have been based on sound scientific evidence that should have withstood full scrutiny and open debate.
But no. Oh, no…there will be no review and there will be no back down and there will be no apology to the thousands of Kiwis negatively affected by this. These people have done this thing that will impact many of us well into the future…they have to stay true to their mistake. They will justify this to the final trump.
"…there will be no back down…"
You got that right, on this page alone we have lies and deflection about Mallard, "lynch mob" and "lawless, violent mob".
Reason has gone with the baby and the bathwater.
And the pro-plaguers are close minded…
Thanks Rosemary.
Everyone interested in vaccination programmes should watch.
I had read about the mortality rate of girls with the measles virus, compared with boys. Sex matters.
And Trev's the villain for leaving the sprinklers on.
Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper charges in a memoir out May 10 that former President Trump said when demonstrators were filling the streets around the White House following the death of George Floyd: "Can't you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?"
https://www.axios.com/mark-esper-book-trump-protesters-24e93272-2af5-423d-be3b-164daab7b43d.html
And Trev's the villain for leaving the sprinklers on.
And he accepted the recommendation to trespass former parliamentarians among others by Parliamentary Security Services. OMG how dare he. Off with his head!
Off with his head!!!
I believe that is the method favoured by Labour for punishing those who do wrong.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/02/20/guest-blog-suzie-dawson-remembering-the-left/
Perhaps the pictured apparatus is gathering dust in a Labourite's shed somewhere?
Off with her head!
"And he accepted the recommendation to trespass former parliamentarians among others by Parliamentary Security Services."
Any evidence to back up that assertion?
https://twitter.com/SpeakerTrevor/status/1521366911761940480
So, a tweet from the thug himself, spinning about exempting folk.
Nothing about accepting recommendations to trespass folk.
Mallard is not a thug. "Only the Act Party supported such an exemption"
"Mallard said that the actual decision to trespass Peters and King was not made by him, but by Parliamentary Security, who he had delegated responsibility to."
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300580057/parliament-trespass-trevor-mallard-withdraws-five-trespass-notices-including-winston-peters
Does that make Parliamentary Security thugs too? Does that make Mallard an idiot for delegating stuff to professionals? Does it make Mallard an idiot for not doing everything off his own bat and not involving people with experience and knowledge?
Thanks Peter.
"Does that make Mallard an idiot for delegating stuff to professionals? Does it make Mallard an idiot for not doing everything off his own bat and not involving people with experience and knowledge?"
After his antics during the protest, maybe old dogs can learn new tricks.
What about the antics of the protesters that amounted to a lynch mob?
C’mon Louis you have to be able to do better than blatant whataboutism, that is really deperate.
Putting the "lynch mob" histrionics aside, Mallard is a Government appointee, in a responsible position.
Unfortunately, of late, proving himself to be unfit for office.
You appear to be in denial in regards to the protesters gsays.
This thread was about Mallard and more titbits about what a bad person Trump is.
As to the protesters, they are us.
Peter
"And Trev's the villain for leaving the sprinklers on."
Tragic bit of amateur revisionist history. Don't let the facts get in the way of a clumsy deflection.
"The sprinklers on Parliament's grounds were turned on late on Friday at Speaker Trevor Mallard’s instruction, and will be running “all night” "
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/127742422/parliament-protesters-dig-trenches-to-avoid-all-night-sprinklers
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/05/winston-peters-calls-for-trevor-mallard-to-face-vote-of-no-confidence.html
Winnies back
Still supporting the lawless, violent mob?
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Whatever I support, I don't tell fibs about them.
Birthing bodies for sale
https://twitter.com/nandoodles/status/1521581893438754817?s=21
Here it is exactly. If you find yourself wanting to make the argument that not all women can get pregnant therefore TWAW, then you have no actual concept of class politics. Female is a sex class, and it is only females that are affected by abortion and abortion laws. Abortion laws sit in a broader context of how patriarchal societies have controlled women as a sex class precisely because they are the group of people that give birth.
if women cannot name our own class or politics we lose the ability to name what our liberation is. If you still don’t get why so many women are angry about abortion and/or gender ideology, this is why. We know this shit inside out and we know just how precarious our allowed rights are.
https://twitter.com/purple_crone/status/1521389211055624192?s=21
https://twitter.com/cendergrit/status/1521450725016227841?s=21
Dr Jane Clare Jones said something in her interview with Helen Staniland that resonated, when talking about "inclusive" feminism:
Who said feminism meant that women had to be everyone's Mum?
Can someone please justify the change from pregnant women to pregnant people for .00698625% of births???
Nope, thought not
This lot do not even bother to try. Amazing linguistic contortions to avoid the use of the forbidden words "woman" and "mother". In a paper about Perinatal Mental Health.
https://helenclark.foundation/publications-and-media/ahurutia-te-rito-it-takes-a-village/
That report of 72 pages contains many mentions of “mother” and “women”!?
Of course, you’re free to have your opinion about “this lot”, but you could at least try basing it on accurate input & information and before you write them off so easily.
Did you look at the many photos in the report? They tell a story too and are there to support the text in a visual sense, but it seems only (the) mothers/women are featured …
The pdf I downloaded had this right at the beginning:
and adhered to it from that point on, unless it was quoting from someone who used the words mother/women.
Men however, retain the role of father, with the inclusion of non-birthing parents.
Incognito, we have a large number of women in this country with English as a second language, we probably have larger numbers of women with diminished mental capacity than TiF. Conflating gender identity of "women", with biological women impacts on health messages to large groups of women in NZ.
Not only is the gender identity of women a problem, it appears that when biology matters, women are now no longer able to use the word women to denote biological women.
Photos/schmotos.
Well we could all just identify as male – he / him – without a penis (so yesteryear) and then birthing parent would fit so well, right?
It has surprised me, the number of men so insistent on the requirement of women calling other men women.
No amount of examples of how institutional capture of this removal of women from medical literature, advice, legislation however, seems to make a difference.
Thank you for that note. However, in my opinion, it does not corroborate Anker’s comment.
I also fail to see the conflation in that report, but you and others may see it differently. The subject matter of the report is perinatal mental health, so obviously it is about births and biological women and not about women in general (NB English is not my first language either)
The photos tell a story, as I said. If you don’t like to story or its framing and wording then you probably won’t like to visual story either.
You reply was to visubversa, so I replied to that. I know the stat that Anker was reporting on, but she hasn't linked, and I believe it is from Australia, but she's the one to follow up.
For medical advice, photos (for me) are the equivalent of white space, unless they are demonstrative.
I have spent a lot of time in the last couple of years in South Auckland's medical wards for women. Your English is without fault. The ability of many of the women I have shared waiting rooms and wards with is limited to basic English. Even with accompanying family members they will have trouble understanding what is happening.
I have also had experience of being with someone with limited mental capacity. Introducing terms like, people who menstruate, instead of women/girls does have a negative impact on their ability to recognise that they are part of that cohort, and what the following advice may mean.
If those with gender identities are unable to separate their gender identity from their biological category when discussing medical issues, I believe the problem is their inability to separate the two. This is not solved by accommodating that failure.
The only people who birth children and suffer perinatal mental health problems are biological women.
Indeed, my reply was to Visubversa @ 6.1.1.2.1 and not to Anker at all. My apologies for the mix up.
FWIW, I don’t have a problem with the language in and of the 72-page report. Rather than conflating issues, whilst being cognisant of the sensitivities and acknowledging these, the authors were clear and consistent in their use of language in their report. I don’t think anybody should read more into it than there is in the report – it would distract from the important message(s) about perinatal mental health.
I found 1 in the summary. Plus one reference to maternal. The rest of it is all "birthing parents".
"Make it easier for whānau/family to spend time with and support new parents and pēpi.
This could include:
Suicide is the leading cause of maternal death in Aotearoa, and wāhine Māori are three times more likely than Pākehā to die by suicide during pregnancy or within six weeks of birth."
Got it. The Summary is not the full report, obviously. Still dismissing “this lot”?
So the conservative hate women being liberated, and the liberals have decided liberation is via women not being women.
https://twitter.com/WeavingHouse/status/1521743213081464832
I can not size my image in the comment to Molly, maybe you can lend a helping hand? It shows a decent size in the preview but then does not work when posted. sorry for the mess.
Soimon's farewell speech:
"It is better to burn out than fade away."
'Burn out' and 'Fade away' are just about synonyms. Surely 'Go down in flames' is a
better metaphor for his purpose.
Simon, for all his degrees (how on earth did he get them??) never had a proper grasp of our language. When leader of the Opposition, he tried to use the expression, "The cure is worse than the disease."
Unfortunately, he blurted out, "The medicine is worse than the cure." It took a couple of days before he admitted he had got it wrong.
And then there was his ridiculous first interview with John Campbell..
Bon Voyage, Simon
Fuck did you never listen to Niel Young? The line is a famous quote.
https://youtu.be/i6RZY4Ar3fw
Not all of us are old enough to remember popular music that belonged identifiably to the tradition of English lyric poetry – and was therefore of some interest.
https://www.teaomaori.news/questions-over-louisa-walls-pacific-role
The Pacific didn’t ask for an LBGTQ ambassador.
Bryce Edwards needs [deleted] so he gets perspective on his ‘petty’ comments about Trevor Mallard. Oh, not the good protestors! Oh what rogues.
[you cannot wish or suggest harm on people here, especially not public figures involved in fraught political debates. And please link so others know what you are referring to – weka]
Mod note for you
Sorry for it appearing that way. Definitely not the case.
I don’t wish to link to any of his ‘democracy’ if it involves supporting, however indirectly, a violent protest. The attack on the system, on the speaker of the house is very poor. And if we were in many other countries if a mob camped in parliament and behaved as they did…
I would suggest that Mr Edwards should put himself in the shoes of those who were considered fair game, not whatever he considers petty. Or whatever the talking point is he is spouting.
that's a good way of putting it, thanks.