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Daily review 09/06/2025

Written By: - Date published: 5:30 pm, June 9th, 2025 - 13 comments
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This provides Standardistas the opportunity to review events of the day.

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13 comments on “Daily review 09/06/2025 ”

  1. weka 1

    I'd not heard of Blue Labour before (in the UK), but this is interesting. They challenge neoliberalism, support socialism, want to reorient around the working class as it is today, and are somewhat socially conservative. Patriotic and internationalist and anti-globalist. Their socialism is "both radical and conservative". Pro-participatory democracy, anti-oligarchy. Pro-union and working class involvement in managing society.

    Blue Labour did not come out of the revolutionary left. Its inheritance is conservative socialism which is about protecting nature and human value from the commodification of capitalism and the transactional culture of the market.

    https://www.bluelabour.org/about-us

    Obviously I would have some problems with some of their social positions, and they do seem to favour small state involvement in welfare, but possibly more from the pov of workers' empowerment?

    And in the NZ context I wouldn't see them as a replacement for the left wing parties. But imagine if we had this instead of NZF.

    More here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Labour

    • weka 1.1

      Haven't read this yet, off to cook dinner first.

      ‘Blue Labour is an explicit challenge to the neoliberal, capitalist consensus’

      Blue Labour continues to garner attention and gain momentum as our party seeks to make sense of the political realignment taking place across Western democracies. It is a lesser-known school of thought within Labour, having been more bystander than participant in Labour’s recent factional struggles between the Blairites and the Corbynites. So what is it, and why is it so relevant to the moment we are in?

      ‘Blue Labour’s economics are unashamedly left-wing’

      Blue Labour’s politics is about the work we do, the people we love, and the places to which we belong. It is an explicit challenge to the neoliberal, capitalist consensus, and it belongs to the radical labour tradition. A Blue Labour economy would mean a balanced relationship between state, market and society, recognising that large, private corporations now possess far too much power over our country.

      https://labourlist.org/2025/06/blue-labour-jonathan-hinder-david-smith-connor-naismith/

      • Dennis Frank 1.1.1

        Cool, eh? smiley Could be the zeitgeist intervening again to do a switcheroo. It often scales up a social trend using an innovative group catalyst as what Gladwell called the tipping point in his best-seller of '99.

        I assumed it was bouncing off chaos theory from a decade earlier so took me a decade to get around to reading it, but no it was a case of a clever journo doing social science theorising apparently unaware of the scientific basis. They used imagery like a grain of sand setting off a sand-slide as trigger.

        Anyway the tipping point for mass transformation has since been measured at 25% or so according to several books I've read in recent years…

    • joe90 1.2

      But imagine if we had this instead of NZF.

      And they could out NZ First NZF?

      Blue Labour

      @blue_labour

      Blue Labour: for national sovereignty and a covenant with the British people

      […]

      1. We are proud of our multiracial democracy and we utterly reject divisive identity politics, which undermines the bonds of solidarity between those of different sexes, races and nationalities. We should legislate to root out DEI in hiring practices, sentencing decisions, and wherever else we find it in our public bodies.

      https://xcancel.com/blue_labour/status/1914591256925077747

      • Muttonbird 1.2.1

        Yeah, #BlueLabour seems like one of those astroturf organisations. A lot like NZF.

        Remember this from Peters, when it suited him?

        Announcing that he was going with Labour, Winston Peters said that he was committed to making capitalism in New Zealand more human. One could write a book on possible meanings of ‘capitalism’ and libraries on the potential, or not, for improving it. We must be briefer.

        https://briefingpapers.co.nz/the-future-of-new-zealand-capitalism/

        Now look at him. Organising and promoting imported culture wars, railing against Maori with scribble faces, denying transgender people humanity. Hardly, "more human".

        • weka 1.2.1.1

          Peters is a very talented grifter. Maybe the people running Blue Labour are as well, but Peters hates the left, and Blue Labour are way more left than Peters ever was.

      • weka 1.2.2

        I said,

        Obviously I would have some problems with some of their social positions

        But sure, let's continue to ignore working class people, and settle for Peters fucking up the left for as long as he lives. Maybe our luck will change after that.

  2. Dennis Frank 2

    One News informed us that Gavin Newsom responded to Trump's arrest threat by saying "Come and get me, tough guy!" I sought online confirmation but couldn't see any. If true, Trump ought to respond "Nah, I'll just send someone."

    Could be a way for both of them to make history, huh? Since the protestors are trashing vehicles, the right will expect law & order to take control somehow, but who organises that could be in the grey area currently. I can tell you from personal experience that when I was stateside in '78 most travellers in my generation I met worked illegally since it was apparently considered normal – part of the local west coast culture.

  3. Dennis Frank 3

    Trump has crossed the line with this:

    Trump wrote, "Governor Gavin Newscum and 'Mayor' Bass should apologize to the people of Los Angeles https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/absolutely-horrible-job-us-president-trump-blasts-newsom-bass-over-la-riots/

    Gav is likely to succeed Trump as president so could be Trump is testing his mettle.

  4. Muttonbird 4

    One thing I like about cultural, political, societal, environmental clashes is the imagery produced. It's a powerful and detailed archive of our times:

    https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/06/09/protests-intensify-in-la-after-trump-deploys-hundreds-of-national-guard-troops/

    • Muttonbird 4.1

      Middle photo with the sign, "No-one's illegal on stolen land".

      Now, our own best debater ever, David Seymour, could not defeat this motion in the Oxford debate. He failed because it's not possible to argue against.

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