web analytics

Daily Review 10/05/2016

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 pm, May 10th, 2016 - 59 comments
Categories: Daily review - Tags:

Slater down and out

Daily review is also your post.

This provides Standardistas the opportunity to review events of the day.

The usual rules of good behaviour apply (see the Policy).

Don’t forget to be kind to each other …

59 comments on “Daily Review 10/05/2016 ”

  1. Ad 1

    This had been such a good day for the activist left.
    And clearly there’s more to come!

    • infused 1.1

      not sure how you’ve come to that conclusion?

      * Andrew came off looking like an idiot on RNZ
      * #panamapapers is an empty gun, pretty much every media outlet here is now saying this

      Only good thing today was slater. And no one cares about slater, so….

      • Gangnam Style 1.1.1

        “Andrew came off looking like an idiot on RNZ” – no he didn’t, Espiner was trying hard for a gotcha but totally missed.

        “#panamapapers is an empty gun, pretty much every media outlet here is now saying this” – on Planet Key maybe, meanwhile here in the real world its still big news.

        • infused

          I believe he stopped as andrew walked in to the same question 3 times. He really needs some better training.

    • Chuck 1.2

      I would hate to see what a bad day for the activist left would look like then Ad…

      • Gangnam Style 1.2.1

        “I would hate to see what a bad day for the activist left would look like then Ad…” & that’s a bare faced lie.

      • Ad 1.2.2

        I’ve had far too many of them so I’m pretty qualified to see the good days.

    • Bill 2.1

      Nah mate. The rest of whatever beatings and what not weren’t mistakes because he didn’t lose his job or career over the head of them.

    • tc 2.2

      Such an odious insecure individual is our wee tony v.

    • Jeez, that’s sobering reading. I read the police summary far too quickly when I wrote the Veitch post. I had thought it was a relatively short period of repeated abuse, but that is a record of a man out of control over the course of the entire relationship. Good thing he didn’t have access to a gun.

  2. I have some suggestions in regards to the broken post – which I’ll post here.

    “So what to do?



    Yep – do nothing, change nothing, get rid of no one – anything that is done is just hiding the issues and not dealing with them.

    But what about offensive and horrible comments?

    delete and ban them

    But what about making The Standard safer for women?

    It won’t be, not without changing attitudes and that won’t happen anytime soon – especially with fundaMENtalist views and attitudes.

    But The Standard might whither and die?

    So does everything. If you want to change that then contribute, be an author, be a commenter, be involved.”


    • b waghorn 3.1

      My thought was to give the author of any given post the ability to stop a person from commenting on the post in question instead of a full banning.
      Not sure if that’s feasible as computers are still black magic to me !

      • We kind of have that ability, bw. However, it’s limited to editing or deleting comments. And you have to be moderating fulltime to catch the nastier stuff. Even with the best will in the world, I still couldn’t stop some of the rubbish that got through on the ‘broken’ post. But that’s men; always shouting down women.

        ps, g’day marty mars. Thanks for respecting the ‘broken’ post. Hope you’ll keep coming back (and feel free to give me a burst if you want, it’s been a constant theme for the last couple of days 😉 ).

        • Colonial Viper

          oh fuck offf mate, my text on The Standard is just as loud as yours is just as loud as any woman’s.

          Further, i’ve never seen any evidence that women can’t type as fast as men on an internet forum. Have you?

          Pretty sure that the females don’t need your protection in order to make their point on The Standard.

          But keep up the slimy greasing up.

          • te reo putake

            You’re a sad, bitter wee man. But I don’t have to tell you that.

            • Colonial Viper

              my text your text and any womens text comment on The Standard are equally as loud.

              And even though you might think women need your extra help to make their points heard, trust me they don’t.

      • Chooky 3.1.2

        +100 b waghorn…I agree with this….there have been a few people banned who havent come back(Clem is one)…who should not have been banned in the first place imo…and their contributions have been lost because they are goneburger

        ( of course there are others who most certainly should have been banned and i enjoyed seeing them get the chop …especially by Lprent)

    • r0b 3.2

      marty – good to see you – I hope you will decide to comment here again. Adele too. We need your voices.

    • Sabine 3.3


    • Bill 3.4

      Thanks for commenting Marty. Thoughtful post.

      I agree that ‘the standard’ is essentially a reflection of society.

      What I find slightly odd is the notion held by some, that somehow people who consider themselves as ‘left’* are intrinsically more attuned to racism, sexism and authoritarianism. They’re not.

      There are bucket loads of misogynists and racists (or people with blind spots to both) who support the more statist parliamentary parties just as there are bucket loads of misogynists and racists (or people with blind spots to both) who support the more market orientated parliamentary parties.

      One thing I’d pick they have in common is a black hole in their comprehension or awareness of authoritarianism. And no, I’m not saying that all authoritarians are racist and/or misogynistic, rather that a healthy disdain for cultures of authoritarianism (ie – cultures built around following people or leading people) tends to cut through or undermine the cultural norms that prop up sexism and racism.

      * Using the term as commonly used when really referring to politics of statism.

    • Chooky 3.5

      +100…yes agree marty mars

    • Rosie 3.6

      Hey marty mars. Good to see you back in town 🙂

      Please do visit again. I always appreciated your compassionate, understanding and BS free comments.

      It’s been a bit weird lately, kind of off putting. Be good to see you around to help raise the tone.

    • weka 3.7

      Good to see ya marty!

      (I disagree about making the place safer, but hey ho, ever the optimist 😉 ).

  3. Manuka AOR 4

    Anne Salmond is calling for a commission to save NZ water.

    Dame Anne said people feared they were losing control of the water to private interests and that more lakes and rivers were becoming dangerously toxic.

    “You’ve got lakes like Lake Forsyth down south, which is so toxic it’s killing sheep and dogs and that’s a kind of signpost to the kind of future where we might be heading.”

    The battle over water had become so contentious that iwi, farmers, clean water campaigners and other groups needed to find common ground.

    “We need a solution that gives everybody a stake and a way of seeing that everybody benefits.”

    An independently run Waterways Commission would be funded by user charges on commercial users like bottled water and irrigation companies.

    Dame Anne, the patron of Te Awaroa, A Thousand Rivers, an organisation committed to saving the rivers, said the challenge was to make sure that water did not turn into a commodity where the profits flowed into the pockets of a few. [More at the link]

    • Chooky 4.1

      +100 ….Anne Salmond is one voice which should be heeded!!!!…the idea of a ‘Commission to Save NZ Water’ is a good one

  4. Manuka AOR 5

    On this evening’s Checkpoint with John Campbell
    … Bernard Hickey talking about the newly released figures on foreign ownership, says there seems to be an ‘underestimate’, and that the actual figure could be anywhere between 3% … and 48%. http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/303532/foreign-buyers-%27very-under-reported%27

    • Chooky 5.1

      @ Manuka AOR…yes I heard that on Checkpoint also …it seems to depend on the definition of whether people /students in New Zealand buying up properties actually are New Zealanders or foreigners residing in New Zealand for a short period of time…and also whether they are buying for themselves or foreign others /relatives residing outside New Zealand.

      This from a Chinese property developer expert on Chinese buying up of properties outside China …in Australia and Canada:


      ….”Most Chinese purchases hide behind trustees and proxies. Third parties such as friends and relatives were often used.

      “Chinese students are being paid 2 per cent of the purchase price of the property to purchase property on behalf of relatives,” says Tee.

      Another person au fait with Chinese property transactions in Australia told Fairfax Media it was simple for Chinese investors to get around the foreign capital restrictions.

      “The money never really moves. In a simple example, Kunlun is a forex trading and money exchange company. It has bank accounts in many countries with significant cash balances. So if someone wants $40 million in Australia they put the money in a Kunlun China account and Kunlun transfers the money from their Australian accounts to the person’s friend’s Australian account.

      “Kunlun is just one example – any large trading multinational will hold large reserves of cash in each country so they can effect a transfer with an internal paper transaction. No banks or government scrutiny involved. And given that they don’t do effective reporting in this country, who will ever trace it?

      “The current situation is that one of the best assets a local Chinese can have is a permanent Australian residence. They will have ‘friends’ lining up to ‘loan’ them money to buy properties in Australia.

      All the government needs to do is follow the cash.”

      Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/wall-of-chinese-capital-buying-up-australian-properties-20150628-ghztdf.html#ixzz48Fb0WaJ1
      Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook


  5. Manuka AOR 6

    These stats came out over a month ago but are still, sadly, relevant:

    • Chooky 6.1

      +100…thanks Manuka AOR…interesting and sad and disturbing…this needs to be discussed more in society and around the world if ever women are to have real equality

    • Nic the NZer 7.1

      Syreza are a failure. They gave up their trump card (a grexit) entering the negotiations and as a result had to concede to all the creditors demands. Hopefully the next Greek government will run and be elected on a platform of leaving the Euro.

      • Pat 7.1.1

        Yes…they failed to seize their opportunity….bad as it would have been I was surprised they didn’t.

        • Colonial Viper

          Varoufakis has been bitter at how the Syriza leadership sold out.

          Mind you if they hadnt its quite likely the Greek military would be in charge now. And that was probably made clear to them.

          BTW exiting the Eurozone is not the same as exiting the EU. (Brexit and Grexit refer to different things)

          • Pat

            think its a given that various unpleasant scenarios were presented to Tsipras at those (un-minuted) meetings, and the military back in control was very likely one of them…..it may happen anyway

            Chess with 7 billion pawns

          • Nic the NZer

            Your suggesting the Greek military is forcing the country to remain in the Eurozone? I see no evidence of it but it would explain things.

            • Colonial Viper

              you may think Greece has been facing budgetary austerity but check out all the nice new million dollar weapons the Greek military has been getting.

              • Pat

                “Having been fourth largest arms importer in 2003–2007, Greece was 15th largest in 2008–12. Its volume of imports declined by 61 per cent between these two periods. As part of its own cost-saving exercises, Greece placed no new orders for major conventional weapons in 2012 and has delayed or cancelled a range of arms import plans, including the acquisition of 6 FREMM frigates from France and over 400 armored vehicles from Russia.”

                looks like its historical orders approaching delivery…..spending in real terms slashed and morale v low


            • Pat

              how on earth do you glean that position from what was written? @Nic

              • Nic the NZer

                I thought it was implied by CV. But it doesnt seem like the sort of thing the EU would want, a military dictatorship in the middle of Europe actually. Its just not clear what Syreza thought they could achieve by taking grexit off the negotiating table.

                • Pat

                  the implication is the EU would support a military coup or at least not oppose one should it occur….not that the greek colonels threatened another coup should they leave the EU.

                  “Countries such as the United Kingdom and the Federal Republic of Germany on the other hand were voicing criticism about Greece’s human rights record but supported the country’s continued membership in the Council of Europe and NATO because of the country’s strategic value for the western alliance.[53][54]”


                  • Nic the NZer

                    Even if the EU would support a Greek military govt this has no effect on the negotiations unless the Greek military is understood to be likely to undertake a coup. If this impacted negotiations it was a perceived threat put by the military some how. I understood the EU would only tolerate democratic governments as members however.

                    • Pat

                      a coup by the military in Greece was proposed as a possibility by CV and it was and remains so….it was not a prediction of imminent occurrence ….however should you wish to pursue the prospect (as you appear to do) then nowhere has it been suggested that should such an event occur then Greece would remain member of the EU….although going on past performance Im sure Brussels could manage to accommodate such an event if it suited.

      • Chooky 7.1.2

        +100 Nic the NZer…if I was Greek I would be wanting to vote for leaving…I am sure the average Greek and Greece could do better on its own..

        from what I can see…Greece’s debt is in trumped up printed monies from rorting banks which should know better, exchanging disreputable bankster loans, on the advice of Goldman Sachs

        • Nic the NZer

          Kind of. Greece problem is they use an external currency and so their govt is not able to determine its own budget. On this basis, mostly at the behest of the IMF, they have been cutting expendature in response to a fall in total spending. Of course this exacerbates the fall in spending though the IMF demands were based on projections which expected to opposite to occur.

          Returning to the Dracma will put that issue under control of Greece again so they can then tackle their economic issues under their own steam. Special mention to Donald Trump for pointing out that the US already issues its own currency and can always ‘print’ it rather than default. This as he pointed out means the US has only a self imposed budget constraint. Comparison between the US and Eurozone nations is therefore meaningless and the same goes for NZ and other nations which issue their own non convertable (floating exchange rate) currencies.

          • Colonial Viper

            People need to remember that Greece has defaulted on its debts several times over the last 200 years. Let it do it again and let its people restart their lives free from debt slavery.

  6. Nessalt 8

    10/5 been and goooooone! no sign of any smoking guns from the panama drop. thought NZ was an international pariah? all trade would stop?

    Nope, just more bull shit hyperbole in the echo chamber that is the left’s activist base. Oooh cam got name suppression dropped. think JK gives a toss?

    • Whateva next? 8.1

      And your point is……?

      • fender 8.1.1

        The point seems to be that JK won’t give a toss that his friends and advisors are being exposed as rather dodgy undesirable scoundrels who lie often.

        Probably a factual point too. The jokes on us and all of NZ.

    • joe90 8.2

      The drinking week starts on Thursday night…

    • framu 8.3

      “10/5 been and goooooone! no sign of any smoking guns from the panama drop. thought NZ was an international pariah? all trade would stop?

      Nope, just more bull shit hyperbole in the echo chamber”

      i like how you described your first sentence

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • NZ announces a third P-3 deployment in support of UN sanctions
    The Government has deployed a Royal New Zealand Air Force P-3K2 Orion (P-3) maritime patrol aircraft to support the implementation of United Nations Security Council (UNSC) resolutions imposing sanctions against North Korea, announced Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters and Minister of Defence Ron Mark. “New Zealand has long supported ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Pacific trade and development agreement a reality
    Pacific regional trade and development agreement PACER Plus will enter into force in 60 days now that the required eight countries have ratified it. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker welcomed the announcement that the Cook Islands is the eighth nation to ratify this landmark agreement. “The agreement represents ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Securing a pipeline of teachers
    The Government is changing its approach to teacher recruitment as COVID-19 travel restrictions continue, by boosting a range of initiatives to get more Kiwis into teaching. “When we came into Government, we were faced with a teacher supply crisis,” Education Minister Chris Hipkins said. “Over the past three years, we ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Border exceptions for a small number of international students with visas
    The Government has established a new category that will allow 250 international PhD and postgraduate students to enter New Zealand and continue their studies, in the latest set of border exceptions. “The health, safety and wellbeing of people in New Zealand remains the Government’s top priority. Tight border restrictions remain ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • First COVID-19 vaccine purchase agreement signed
    The Government has signed an agreement to purchase 1.5 million COVID-19 vaccines – enough for 750,000 people – from Pfizer and BioNTech, subject to the vaccine successfully completing all clinical trials and passing regulatory approvals in New Zealand, say Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods and Health Minister Chris Hipkins. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • International statement – End-to-end encryption and public safety
    We, the undersigned, support strong encryption, which plays a crucial role in protecting personal data, privacy, intellectual property, trade secrets and cyber security.  It also serves a vital purpose in repressive states to protect journalists, human rights defenders and other vulnerable people, as stated in the 2017 resolution of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Ministry of Defence Biodefence Assessment released
    The Ministry of Defence has today released a Defence Assessment examining Defence’s role across the spectrum of biological hazards and threats facing New Zealand. Biodefence: Preparing for a New Era of Biological Hazards and Threats looks at how the NZDF supports other agencies’ biodefence activities, and considers the context of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Approaches to Economic Challenges: Confronting Planetary Emergencies: OECD 9 October 2020
    New Approaches to Economic Challenges: Confronting Planetary Emergencies: OECD 9 October 2020 Hon David Parker’s response following Thomas Piketty and Esther Duflo. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, wherever in the world you might be. I first acknowledge the excellent thought provoking speeches of Thomas Piketty and Esther ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Kaipara Moana restoration takes next step
    A Memorandum of Understanding has been signed today at Waihāua Marae between the Crown, local iwi and councils to protect, restore and enhance the mauri of Kaipara Moana in Northland. Environment Minister David Parker signed the document on behalf of the Crown along with representatives from Ngā Maunga Whakahī, Ngāti ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand and Uruguay unite on reducing livestock production emissions
    Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor and Uruguayan Minister of Livestock, Agriculture and Fisheries Carlos María Uriarte have welcomed the launch of a three-year project that will underpin sustainable livestock production in Uruguay, Argentina, and Costa Rica.  The project called ‘Innovation for pasture management’ is led by Uruguay’s National Institute of Agricultural ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • 3100 jobs created through marae upgrades
    Hundreds of marae throughout the country will be upgraded through investments from the Provincial Growth Fund’s refocused post COVID-19 funding to create jobs and put money into the pockets of local tradespeople and businesses, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Māori Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta have announced. “A total ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Health volunteers recognised in annual awards
    Health Minister Chris Hipkins has announced 9 teams and 14 individuals are the recipients of this year’s Minister of Health Volunteer Awards.  “The health volunteer awards celebrate and recognise the thousands of dedicated health sector volunteers who give many hours of their time to help other New Zealanders,” Mr Hipkins ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Community COVID-19 Fund supports Pacific recovery
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Aupito William Sio says a total of 264 groups and individuals have successfully applied for the Pacific Aotearoa Community COVID-19 Recovery Fund, that will support Pacific communities drive their own COVID-19 recovery strategies, initiatives, and actions. “I am keen to see this Fund support Pacific ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Community benefits from Māori apprenticeships
    Up to 50 Māori apprentices in Wellington will receive paid training to build houses for their local communities, thanks to a $2.75 million investment from the Māori Trades and Training Fund, announced Employment Minister Willie Jackson today. “This funding will enable Ngāti Toa Rangatira Incorporated to provide its Ngā Kaimahi ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Training fund supports Māori jobseekers
    Rapidly growing sectors will benefit from a $990,000 Māori Trades and Training Fund investment which will see Wellington jobseekers supported into work, announced Employment Minister Willie Jackson today. “This funding will enable Sapphire Consultants Ltd. to help up to 45 Māori jobseekers into paid training initiatives over two years through ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Ruakura Inland Port development vital infrastructure for Waikato
    The Government is investing $40 million to develop an inland port at Ruakura which will become a freight super-hub and a future business, research and residential development for the Waikato, Urban Development and Transport Minister Phil Twyford, and Māori Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta announced today. The funding has been has ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Appointments made to Defence Expert Review Group
    Defence Minister Ron Mark announced today the establishment of an Expert Review Group to review a number of aspects of the New Zealand Defence Force’s (NZDF) structure, information management and record-keeping processes.  The Expert Review Group’s work arises out of the first recommendation from the Report of the Government’s Inquiry ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • No active community cases of COVID-19
    There are no active community cases of COVID-19 remaining in the country after the last people from the recent outbreak have recovered from the virus, Health Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “This is a big milestone. New Zealanders have once again through their collective actions squashed the virus. The systems ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Clean energy upgrade for more public buildings
    More public buildings will be supported by the Government to upgrade to run on clean energy, the Minister for Climate Change James Shaw announced today. Minister Shaw announced that Lincoln and Auckland universities will receive support through the Clean-Powered Public Service Fund to replace fossil fuel boilers. Southern, Taranaki, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Schools back donations scheme for the second year
    More schools have opted in to the donations scheme for 2021, compared to 2020 when the scheme was introduced. “The families of more than 447,000 students will be better off next year, with 94% of eligible schools and kura opting into the scheme,” Education Minister Chris Hipkins said. “This is ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Ruapehu cycle trails gets PGF boost
    The spectacular Mountains to Sea cycle trail in Ruapehu District will receive $4.6 million in funding from the Provincial Growth Fund for two additional trails, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This is an exciting development for the local community, and one that will provide significant economic opportunities ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Update to air border order strengthens crew requirements
    Additional measures coming into effect on Monday will boost our defence against COVID-19 entering New Zealand through the air border, Health Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “As part of our precautionary approach and strategy of constant review, we’re tightening the requirements around international aircrew,” Chris Hipkins said. The COVID-19 Public ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • A true picture of Māori business activity
    A better picture of the contribution Māori businesses make to the economy will be possible with changes to the way information is collected about companies and trading enterprises. Māori Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Small Business Minister Stuart Nash have announced a new option for Māori enterprises who are part ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • PGF funding for Taranaki projects
    The South Taranaki museum, a New Plymouth distillery and a Pasifika building firm will benefit from a Government investment totalling more than $1 million, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones says. The $1.05m in grants and loans from the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) will help the recipients expand and create ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Fijian Language Week 2020 inspires courage and strength during COVID-19 pandemic
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Aupito William Sio says the theme for the 2020 Fijian Language Week reflects the strong belief by Fijians that their language and culture inspires courage and strength that is strongly needed in times of emergencies, or through a significant challenge like the global COVID-19 pandemic ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Trades training builds on iwi aspirations
    An investment of $2.025 million from the Māori Trades and Training Fund will support Māori to learn new skills while making a positive difference for their communities, announced Employment Minister Willie Jackson today. “K3 Development Limited Partnership will receive $2,025,000 for its Takitimu Tuanui apprenticeship programme, which will support the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago