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Daily Review 10/06/2016

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 pm, June 10th, 2016 - 33 comments
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This provides Standarnistas the opportunity to review events of the day.

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Don’t forget to be kind to each other …

33 comments on “Daily Review 10/06/2016”

  1. Sabine 1

    oh dear.

  2. Sutton's li'l helper 2

    Interesting article here, could easily be about nz and considering we’re run by the same banks it’s food for thought. Replace mining with dairy industry

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/superannuation/australian-dollar-could-drop-to-40-us-cents-if-we-dont-stop-our-lavish-spending/news-story/431ffffa9eab5c1fe27cc2b3cf6f89b8

  3. Here’s the anthem song for the Labour / Greens MOU.

    And this one is for every family and child out there who has directly or indirectly suffered at the hands of this disgusting , anti democratic and immoral govt .

    This ones for you and all future New Zealanders as well :

  4. Richardrawshark 5

    police gone crazy, your out there slashing the gorse, the wife thinks your having a melt down phones the cops you biff the slasher at their car window smashing it and start walking away and they shoot you dead.

    Well handled, awesome negotiation skills, excellent risk assessment always take a gun to a knife fight I always say.

    And when dealing with a pain in the local arse, just get pissed off and shoot the twit.

    and they call gangs thugs.

    Sorry DTB should have put in the link my bad.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/80923765/shooting-in-paeroa

    • Draco T Bastard 5.1

      WTF are you going on about?

    • BM 5.2

      Suicide by police.

      • b waghorn 5.2.1

        Not if he was walking away. That’s murder !!

        • weka 5.2.1.1

          +1

          any reason why the police can’t film situations like this? (although preferably without releasing it to the media).

          • Richardrawshark 5.2.1.1.1

            FTP, they are more judgemental than the judges themselves in my vast experience with them worldwide.

            Judge jury and occasionally executioner so to speak to often, far to often.

          • McFlock 5.2.1.1.2

            Oddly, if they’d tased him there would be footage from the taser’s camera.

            But no camera on police pistols – even though the tech has been around for a while. There was a test programme in New York City almost ten years ago. We’re not awash with NYPD gun-cam footage, so I guess they never took it up.

            Probably because it might well be a double-edged sword, evidence-wise, as well as expensive. Although if the battery died after 30sec and it kept breaking, that might also be it. And shot residue on the lens might also be a problem.

            • Draco T Bastard 5.2.1.1.2.1

              Should be mandatory for police to wear body cameras while on duty. Of course, they’re seriously under funded by this government so they probably couldn’t afford it anyway.

  5. weka 6

    For those yesterday assuming that Maureen Pugh is an anti-vaxxer because she supports the use of alternative medicine,

    and all of my children are fully vaccinated,” she wrote.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/80955639/National-MP-Maureen-Pugh-says-she-isn-t-an-anti-vaxxer

    The degree of ignorance and prejudice from some on the left around alternative health is embarassing. That people equate alternative health with being an anit-vaxxer even more so, esp from people who otherwise consider themselves thoughtful and educated.

    • Muttonbird 6.1

      It’s a backdown from Pugh under orders from Farrar after being called out by a scientist. Good to see National’s communications machine working.

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11654379

      Perhaps she mis-spoke the first time. Perhaps she was misrepresented.

      • weka 6.1.1

        Pugh comes across as a very inexperienced politician on a steep learning curve. My comment was about lefties with prejudices based on ignorance about alternative medicine.

        Yesterday you called Pugh an anti-vaxxer (you weren’t the only one), not because she is, or because you had any evidence of that, but because in your mind you equate alternative medicine with being an anti-vaccine campaigner. That’s the ignorance. I’m not saying that as a perjorative, just in the sense of not knowing. There are overlaps between alternative medicine and anti-vaxxers, but they’re not the same thing at all.

        “Microbiologist Dr Siouxsie Wiles subsequently wrote an open letter to Ms Pugh, published on The Spinoff website, in which she said “alternative medicine” was medicine that had been proven not to work.”

        What she means is that science hasn’t proven some of it to work (that doesn’t necessarily mean it doesn’t work, it can also mean that science hasn’t studied it yet, or has tried to study it but failed to do so adequately). Lots of it has been proven to work. At that point she probably says that if science has proven it, it’s not alternative. But she doesn’t own alternative medicine and such beliefs are just ideologically based power grabs. She can try and define alternative medicine and all she will do is open the gap between that and conventional medicine even wider, which does all of us a disservice.

        • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1

          Why does a “microbiologist” think she is qualified to comment about allopathic medicine and alternative medicine?

          That’s the fucking embarrassing part. A “scientist” making comments with certainty about fields that she has no idea about.

          • weka 6.1.1.1.1

            I know, and doing so in the name of science. And then some people wonder why science is so distrusted by so many. I hear the same thing from doctors, who ridicule alternative medicine but have almost no experience or knowledge of it. It’s weird. A kind of faith I guess, which I would have far less of a problem with if they weren’t claiming to be rational 😉

          • McFlock 6.1.1.1.2

            🙄

            Probably knows about as much as a chiropractor would know about the toxicity of conventional pharmocology or general immunology. Actually, probably much more than that.

            • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1.2.1

              Pah, I’m not claiming to be a professional scientist, and she is.

              Seems like some of these scientists like to speak with certainty even though they know fuck all.

              • McFlock

                Sounds familiar.

                She is a professional scientist, a microbiologist.
                If you reckon that this means she “has no idea about” “allopathic medicine or alternative medicine”, then it goes the other direction, as well.

                Obviously, if somebody does not work professionally in the precise area, then they can have no idea about that area and any pronouncements they make are pseudo-profundities that can only distract from serious conversations about the area. /sarc

                • Colonial Viper

                  I’m not claiming to be a professional scientist. Professional scientists are supposed to know better than to speak with certainty about things that they know little about.

                  • McFlock

                    So because you’re not a professional scientist, you aren’t expected to know better than to speak with certainty about toxicology, conventional medicine, epidemiology, foreign policy, US politics, NZ politics, etc etc etc? Things that you aren’t a professional practitioner of?

                    But you do know better, because you expect it of others. There’s a word for that.

                    Besides, how do you even know she knows little about alternative medicines?

  6. Richardrawshark 7

    If the police shoot dead someone trying to commit suicide is that not murder?

    I’m sure the police can be trusted to make sure it was a justified killing with no other option at any time to have backed away and reassessed the situation.

    Before getting so close as to be in a life and death situation. On a driveway, out in the open. With a car between them.

    • weka 7.1

      On the little bit of information we have I would guess that the risk was if he had other weapons close to hand. Having a machete thrown at you is not a small matter even if you are on the other side of a car. I agree that shooting someone in the back in most situations would be murder.

  7. arkie 8

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/306107/valley-was-cloud-seeded-before-deadly-storm

    An Australian state-owned energy company has been asked to explain why it conducted cloud-seeding over Tasmania’s Derwent Valley the day before deadly flooding.

    Who knew it was that effective?

  8. Gangnam Style 9

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/80810066/south-auckland-cancer-sufferer-forced-to-live-in-van-with-family

    “They eventually moved into a house but the $540 weekly rent consumed most of her benefit.
    All I had left over each week was $4. We were living off food parcels from the Salvation Army and little things I could sell. My partner and I didn’t eat much. We drank a lot of water.” “

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