Daily review 12/04/2019

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1. Adrian 1

   12 April 2019 at 6:16 pm

   ” Media celebrity arrest as part of Comancheros raid “. Oh please let it be ………, fill in the one you would most like it to be, preferably any of the sanctimonious arsehole variety.
2. WeTheBleeple 2

   12 April 2019 at 6:30 pm

   For all Hoskings blowhard kiwifruit workers spiel – workers sit idle in Te Puke waiting for brix levels to rise in the fruit so they can actually start.
   • Adrian 2.1

     12 April 2019 at 6:40 pm

     Is this code for your choice? I’m on your side.
     • Psycho Milt 2.1.1

       12 April 2019 at 7:16 pm

       I like what you did there.
   • bwaghorn 2.2

     12 April 2019 at 7:20 pm

     No doubt not getting paid a cent and unable to easily get winz help . But hay they should feel privileged to be on call.
     • WeTheBleeple 2.2.1

       12 April 2019 at 7:45 pm

       Yep. Nephew told there’s work, that there’s a WORKER SHORTAGE, goes to Te Puke, no work yet. They’re in a cheap hotel, losing money, waiting…

       Lad’s a freaking legend. Strong, fit, honest. takes no BS. I bet he, or the mates he organised, never go back.

       The orchardists and Hosking should owe them all back-pay for talking shite.
       • Sabine 2.2.1.1

         12 April 2019 at 7:55 pm

         call someone from the media and let them know about the workers loosing money waiting for the jobs that the orchardists can’t fill.

         Seriously do it.
         Just for balance you know.
       • Pat 2.2.1.2

         12 April 2019 at 7:58 pm

         you can fool most people once….after that they know who you are.
       • bwaghorn 2.2.1.3

         12 April 2019 at 8:42 pm

         I recall driving 30 mins at my cost to be rained off and sent home or sit there for half a day waiting for the fruit to dry . For no money .
         Loved it so much i never picked fruit again.
3. A 3

   12 April 2019 at 7:08 pm

   Just been reading about Jessica Boyce who is still missing after being turned away twice for mental health treatment. Can’t help but feel instead of the almost exclusive gun focus we should be looking at holistic changes including that of our mental health system 🙁

   https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111921794/she-knew-she-needed-help-missing-woman-wanted-mental-health-treatment

   Hope they find her so there is closure for the family x
   • Sabine 3.1

     12 April 2019 at 8:00 pm

     the gun issue has nothing to do with our mental health neglect.
     the one came about due to murder and the other one was years in the making and was not made better during the nine years of fuck all under National. In saying that i hope that labour will throw oodles of money at that sector as it really is a big big issue here.

     Two different pair of shoes i would say.

     I hope they find her soon. Just so much sadness.
     • greywarshark 3.1.1

       12 April 2019 at 9:06 pm

       I think you miss the point Sabine. I read A saying that at present there is an almost exclusive gun focus. True.

       Then A thought instead we should be looking at holistic changes including that of our mental health system.

       What’s wrong with that? Why are we so quick to jump on other commenters who have a positive focus. We need to run good discussions with interested concerned people, heaven knows there don’t seem to be many attempting it in everyday society. We lead the way I think. Or would someone, apart from the practised poppy cullers, think I’m wrong and tell me their experience.
       • Sabine 3.1.1.1

         12 April 2019 at 9:08 pm

         i agree i might have mistranslated to figuratively.

         and thanks for the lecture.
         • greywarshark 3.1.1.1.1

           13 April 2019 at 10:52 am

           OK thanks Sabine. Feel free to direct me on better lines when you feel it as I take you seriously. I am aware that there are so many minds putting in here and possibly achieving the highest level of discussion in NZ and I want us to keep the conversation sharp. We aren’t used to debating and thinking in NZ – we just go to our favourite gobsmacker and suck on it exclusively. Just trying to explain myself and why I go on about things.
       • KJT 3.1.1.2

         13 April 2019 at 11:00 am

         It is a common cop out line for the US gun lobby.

         “It wasn’t the gun it was a mentally Ill person”

         In other words, “it wasn’t one of our fellow gun toting fascists”. “It was nothing to do with us”.

         Your initial reaction, Sabine, is correct. More help for mental illness, while welcome, has nothing to do with terrorism or what happened in Christchurch.

         Tempting as it may be to say that the gun man was an insane aberration. He was totally in possession of his marbles, when he did it.
   • graeme holt 3.2

     13 April 2019 at 1:51 pm

     We all know mental health is at the top of this Governments priorities. It’ll just take them two terms to implement if they can agree on how to repair it.
4. maggieinnz 4

   12 April 2019 at 7:31 pm

   Mr Xu thinks he’s special, that he should be allowed to keep his gold plated semi-automatic because…well…he loves it.

   “From the moment you enter Xu’s household it is glaringly apparent he has an enthusiasm for all things military – camouflage stripes mark the front door, a German World War II uniform is modelled by a mannequin in the lounge and a stack of books about guns sit on the coffee table.”
   https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/111900486/military-enthusiast-with-oneofakind-gold-plated-ak47-not-ready-to-give-up-his-guns

   This guy comes across with the attitude “but…but…I’m rich so rules don’t apply right?”
   • Psycho Milt 4.1

     12 April 2019 at 8:27 pm

     Xu left China in the 1980s and settled in New Zealand which he said had been a “paradise a to enjoy shooting”.

     Farkinell, no matter what we might say about the current criteria for immigration into this country, they at least top the criteria of the 1980s. If Mr Xu finds Aotearoa/NZ has betrayed his fantasy of being a “paradise to enjoy shooting” and he feels obliged to move elsewhere, oh what a shame that would be.
     • UncookedSelachimorpha 4.1.1

       12 April 2019 at 9:47 pm

       He can probably afford to move to the USA…
   • BM 4.2

     12 April 2019 at 8:29 pm

     Nah, dude just loves his guns.

     Funny thing is I’ve no interest in shooting at all but if I had the money I’d love to collect all the different bits of war weaponry, especially ww2 german stuff, they were just light years of everyone else.
     Russian stuff was also pretty impressive, really awesome engineering, indestructible.
     I reminder reading that Migs were designed to land in a swamp and still be able to take off

     For some reason that really appeals to me.
     • Psycho Milt 4.2.1

       12 April 2019 at 8:33 pm

       Russian stuff was also pretty impressive, really awesome engineering, indestructible.

       Certainly gave the Jerries a nasty shock in 1941. The myth of the woefully backward and ill-equipped Red Army in WW2 really annoys me, their weaponry made the Germans look ill-equipped, let alone the comically-awful stuff the British Army was kitted out with.
       • BM 4.2.1.1

         12 April 2019 at 8:48 pm

         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l67umYKDhH4

         The British stuff(apart from the Bren) was just embarrassing.
         • Psycho Milt 4.2.1.1.1

           12 April 2019 at 9:43 pm

           That’s the shit alright – Red Army machinenpistole is so good the German soldiers are picking them up and scavenging for ammo, in the meantime the British soldiers are wondering what a machinenpistole is.
       • Sabine 4.2.1.2

         12 April 2019 at 9:10 pm

         the germans were ill equipped for russia.

         as were any other army invading before them.

         No one has ever defeated General Frost. No one.
         • Stuart Munro. 4.2.1.2.1

           12 April 2019 at 9:27 pm

           A little bracing weather didn’t bother Subetai & Batu Khan 😉
         • BM 4.2.1.2.2

           12 April 2019 at 9:42 pm

           The Germans blew it when Hitler got fixated over Stalingrad.

           If they bypassed Stalingrad and went after Moscow they would have beaten the Russians.

           Getting bogged down in Stalingrad was the antithesis of what the German fighting machine was all about.

           Stalingrad was the equivalent of WW1 trench warfare, a battle of attrition, the complete opposite of what the Germans had evolved their military into.
         • Psycho Milt 4.2.1.2.3

           12 April 2019 at 11:05 pm

           No one has ever defeated General Frost.

           Finns were pretty good at it, they could defend against the Red Army at 35 below 0 – mind you, the Red Army could conduct offensive operations at 35 below 0, that’s some serious shit…
     • maggieinnz 4.2.2

       13 April 2019 at 7:50 pm

       My older brother was super obsessed with ww2 german stuff too. I learned some german just from listening to him playing war games.
   • greywarshark 4.3

     12 April 2019 at 9:24 pm

     Are we going to be subject to a visit from the chattels police to see that what we have is appropriate and right according to the latest edicts from the scrupulous scrutineers?

     There could be money in it like for Trinny and Susannah. Some people love to be told what to do, and what is right and fashionable so they fit in nicely.
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinny_and_Susannah

     Then there is the clean up the clutter trend – get ready in case there is a sudden invitation to go into space and they have chosen You for the ride. It’s a bit like what I face, going to die before too long, and off into space or somewhere, amgetting rid of some of my books, and stuff I have been meaning to get round to.

     Ooh-er.
     Why clutter is bad for your brain
     Bursting cupboards and piles of paper stacked around the house may seem harmless enough. But research shows disorganisation and clutter have a cumulative effect on our brains.

     Our brains like order, and constant visual reminders of disorganisation drain our cognitive resources, reducing our ability to focus.
     The visual distraction of clutter increases cognitive overload and can reduce our working memory.

     Pseudo-science expert No.1. There are plenty of p-s experts who think differently, as Mr Key commented about legal advisors.
     https://theconversation.com/time-for-a-kondo-clean-out-heres-what-clutter-does-to-your-brain-and-body-109947
5. francesca 5

   12 April 2019 at 7:51 pm

   Good to see Corbyn , beleaguered as he is , sticking up for Assange

   https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47904837
6. Muttonbird 6

   12 April 2019 at 8:02 pm

   Isn’t it incredible that Kim Dotcom has helicopters and special services landing on his lawn in a dawn raid for hosting a few pirated movies on his website, while Mark Zuckerberg gets off scot-free for live-streaming the mass murder of 50 Muslim worshippers?

   As with the case of Julian Assange, it’s all about what is in the interests of The United States of America.
   • BM 6.1

     12 April 2019 at 8:17 pm

     Mark Zuckerberg may be the “face” of Facebook but he’s only one part of it (28.2%)

     http://whoownsfacebook.com/
     • Muttonbird 6.1.1

       12 April 2019 at 8:20 pm

       Ok, so he’s 28.2% responsible for live-streaming the mass murder of 50 Muslim worshippers.

       Still no dawn raid?
       • BM 6.1.1.1

         12 April 2019 at 8:31 pm

         28.2%< 50%

         Zuckerberg has no control over what Facebook does, he’s just a shareholder.
         • Muttonbird 6.1.1.1.1

           12 April 2019 at 8:36 pm

           Charge them all then for failing to provide safeguards for the users of their website.

           Australia (bless them) appear to be moving towards this.
           • KJT 6.1.1.1.1.1

             13 April 2019 at 11:08 am

             Be careful what you wish for.

             The girl at Mai Lai, couldn’t be shown under the proposed laws.

             Or the helicopter gunship massacre exposed by Manning and Wikileaks.
         • Incognito 6.1.1.1.2

           13 April 2019 at 11:13 am

           MZ is Chairman, Founder, and CEO of FB.
   • The Al1en 6.2

     12 April 2019 at 8:17 pm

     Dotcom’s an arsehole, like all the other rich prick arseholes, who only ever stand with the common man when they want something from them.

     As for MZ, I guess he get’s off scot free because he didn’t, to my knowledge, live stream the terror attack, so hasn’t broken any law I’m aware of.
     Just like the ghost of Alexander Graham Bell doesn’t get prosecuted for nuisance phone calls.
     Like Philippe Kahn isn’t held responsible for upskirt phone camera pictures.

     Of course, new laws could be coming, which would be a good thing but I doubt they’d be retrospective.
     • Muttonbird 6.2.1

       12 April 2019 at 8:33 pm

       That’s just a bit silly, Alien. You can’t prosecute a ghost otherwise Michael Jackson’s ghost would be serving several consecutive life sentences right now.

       I’m drawing parallels between the hosting responsibilities of Kim Dotcom and the hosting responsibilities of Mark Zuckerberg.

       There’s nothing retrospective about those two.
     • greywarshark 6.2.2

       12 April 2019 at 9:26 pm

       Allen
       You draw a long bow, and seem way off the mark. (Which is comforting for Mark Zuckerberg!).
       • The Al1en 6.2.2.1

         12 April 2019 at 10:38 pm

         In the context of the post I commented on, it’s not an inaccurate long draw of the bow, more a to the point, accurate observation.

         MZ made the tool, not the content, nor did he to my knowledge, personally host a live stream of the murder video.
         Should there be provision to prevent this happening, sure, something we probably all agree on, but to conflate a dodgy illegal content sharer, someone who knew what he was doing, when he was doing it, is the real twang of the cat gut.

         Oh, and it’s The Al1en, to you 😉 😆
   • McFlock 6.3

     12 April 2019 at 8:59 pm

     For the same reason Shkreli went to jail for defrauding shareholders, and not for pricing life-saving medications out of the grasp of thousands if not millions:

     Capitalism doesn’t care if you kill people, but it goes apeshit if you steal someone else’s profit from murder.
   • gsays 6.4

     12 April 2019 at 9:45 pm

     The key (see what I did there) difference between KDC and Zuckerburg is not many folk used Megaupload.
     Users of FB are enablers of Zuckerburg.
7. hoom 7

   12 April 2019 at 8:29 pm

   Remember when Chorus outsourced its installer tech jobs to smaller contractors and it was supposed to be awesome (according to neo-liberal economics at least)?

   https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/111922886/chorus-promises-improvement-after-failing-to-prevent-exploitation
   Big fuckin surprise: it resulted in most of the contractors breaching employment law with lots of under-paid & under-trained foreign workers on temporary visas.
   And the board knew about it 3yrs ago but didn’t do anything to fix it.

   In other words it was a terrible terrible thing that Chorus was allowed to do that.
   • Muttonbird 7.1

     12 April 2019 at 8:57 pm

     Yep. This has been known on the streets for at least those three years now. Chorus using untrained immigrants who for whatever reason weren’t properly supervised and did shoddy work.

     Its the same as the education rort the National government promoted which has lead to widespread abuse of young student immigrants.
     • Pat 7.1.1

       12 April 2019 at 9:01 pm

       it has been know about in the boardrooms (and parliament) as well…..just conveniently ignored
       • Muttonbird 7.1.1.1

         12 April 2019 at 9:11 pm

         Indeed. We’re street front and as such had the fibre cable put in overhead and whoever did it did a good job. That’s the only personal experience I’ve had with fibre installers I have to say.

         But I do know the underground work from the street front to right-of-way houses is a different story and if you are squeezing workers to keep costs down then you are going to both damage workers and produce a crappy result.
         • hoom 7.1.1.1.1

           12 April 2019 at 11:36 pm

           I wonder what punishment the Board & Senior Management will suffer?
           Do the Crime, Do the Time as a bunch round here have been saying a lot lately.

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