Daily Review 15/03/2017

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1. mickysavage 1

   15 March 2017 at 5:42 pm

   I always thought that Nikki Kaye was a better class of National MP. But today’s little outburst shows that she is as calculating and as conniving as the rest of them:

   From Newshub (http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/03/nikki-kaye-launches-war-of-words-on-jacinda-ardern.html):

   “I’ve been in Auckland Central for eight years, I struggle to name anything Jacinda has done”, she said in Parliament on Wednesday afternoon.

   Ms Kaye says Labour Deputy Leader Jacinda Ardern failed Generation X and Y by not supporting a rise in the superannuation age.

   She also criticised Ms Ardern for her public image, saying she will do “a whole lot of photo ops, she’ll be across every billboard, but she absolutely failed our generation on her first day in the job.”

   Jacinda Ardern was surprised at the attack, and told Newshub “It’s certainly not a style of politics I’ve seen her use before”.

   “Nikki and I have run against each other in Auckland Central for a number of years and usually pretty much stuck to the issues and avoided making it personal. I’m going to stick to that.”

   “I’m going to stick with the way I like to do politics, and it’s making sure that you keep away from making it too personal. But each to their own.”

   Kaye was part of the new style John Key type National MP. Looks like she is reverting to type.
   • Anne 1.1

     15 March 2017 at 5:58 pm

     Actually she did something similar the first time she and Jacinda went head to head on TV. It must have been in 2008. About 3/4 of the way through, after what had been a clean debate (and one which showed that Jacinda was well versed in the issues of the day), Nikki Kaye turned nasty and quite personal. I think Jacinda might have forgotten about it but I haven’t, and it has coloured my view of Ms Kaye ever since.
   • BM 1.2

     15 March 2017 at 6:00 pm

     David Farrar ran the spotlight over Jacinda Arden’s career achievements so far.
     Let’s just say she’d struggle to fill a matchbox,

     http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/03/the_achievements_of_jacinda_ardern.html
     • Draco T Bastard 1.2.1

       15 March 2017 at 6:33 pm

       DPF is a known National apologist and liar.

       So, yeah, using anything he writes as support for anything is just proving your stupidity and gullibility.

       Or that you know he’s lying but are going with it anyway in which case you’re a liar as well.
       • BM 1.2.1.1

         15 March 2017 at 6:43 pm

         Did you read his post?
         • Draco T Bastard 1.2.1.1.1

           15 March 2017 at 6:49 pm

           Why would I when it’s obviously an attack piece written by a known liar and Nat apologist?

           Did you read her About?
           Did you check what issues she’s fronted for over the years?
           Did you talk to all the people who’s she’s helped in her capacity as an MP?
         • Robert Guyton 1.2.1.1.2

           15 March 2017 at 8:57 pm

           Whom’s post?
           • In Vino 1.2.1.1.2.1

             16 March 2017 at 5:38 pm

             Maybe Dr Whom’s, or even Sherlock Whom’s. RG.

             I wonder whose going to be the next to torment our poor language…
     • McFlock 1.2.2

       15 March 2017 at 8:56 pm

       lol, please, give us the full picture. What does Mike Hosking think of her? We need all the impartial assessments we can get /sarc
   • Carolyn_nth 1.3

     15 March 2017 at 6:11 pm

     So the Nats see Ardern as a threat – getting too much positive publicity?
     • ScottGN 1.3.1

       15 March 2017 at 6:59 pm

       That was pretty much my takeout from Kaye’s attack too.
       • BM 1.3.1.1

         15 March 2017 at 7:07 pm

         They see her as a weak link but also as a vector to attack Andrew Little.

         I’m sure Andrew Little is going to love been endlessly told that his deputy is more popular than he is.
         • ScottGN 1.3.1.1.1

           15 March 2017 at 7:18 pm

           If they think she’s a weak link then all the better. Nikki Kaye is going to come out of this particular exchange the worse for wear I think. Though none of this is going to matter at all really, Nick Smith seems determined to get his party kicked out at the elections all on his own.
         • Draco T Bastard 1.3.1.1.2

           15 March 2017 at 8:04 pm

           Ah, so you admit that National’s go to is Dirty, Nasty politics.
           • BM 1.3.1.1.2.1

             15 March 2017 at 8:30 pm

             It’s not dirty politics to point out an opponent’s weaknesses.

             Facts are Jacinda Ardern is where she is because the big brains in Labour thinks the NZ voters are thickos who will be swayed by a pretty face and a smile.

             Personally, I think she’ll probably alienate more voters than what she’ll gain.
             • ScottGN …

               15 March 2017 at 8:38 pm

               We’ll see I guess, But even you’d have to admit BM, National looks just a tad lacklustre going forward to the election?
               • BM …

                 15 March 2017 at 8:48 pm

                 Lacklustre? in what way? not that really matters

                 To the average punter they look stable, stable trumps flashy any day.
                 • Robert Guyton …

                   15 March 2017 at 8:51 pm

                   Key was flashy.
                   • BM …

                     15 March 2017 at 9:14 pm

                     He was stability with a side helping of flash.
                   • Robert Guyton …

                     15 March 2017 at 9:26 pm

                     Flash with a side helping of rhinestone and lashings of paste diamond, a hint of gold in one tooth – quite the Flash Harry.

                     [lprent: Check your comment cookie settings. Corrected two types in two comments. ]
                 • Draco T Bastard …

                   16 March 2017 at 12:17 am

                   He was stability with a side helping of flash.

                   Only if you call flip-flops stable.
             • Robert Guyton …

               15 March 2017 at 8:53 pm

               What tosh. Who would Jacinda “alienate”?
               You? Who else? People like you? ha ha !
               • BM …

                 15 March 2017 at 9:20 pm

                 Women who believe that one should be in a position because they’ve demonstrated they’ve got the skills and have earned the right to hold that position.

                 Being promoted because you’re pretty and photogenic will grind many a woman’s gears.
                 • Robert Guyton …

                   15 March 2017 at 9:24 pm

                   I doubt, BM, that “women” would be so silly as you
                 • Draco T Bastard …

                   16 March 2017 at 12:15 am

                   Last time I looked, women don’t get promoted for looking pretty – they get grabbed by the pussy, told to shut up, and generally fucked with and usually by RWNJs.
             • McFlock …

               15 March 2017 at 8:59 pm

               I know several organisations whose key personnel have worked with her in their sector, and they’d kick you in the nuts for that statement alone if they weren’t leftie hippies.

               She has opponents with valid criticisms, but yours ain’t one of them.
               • weka …

                 15 March 2017 at 9:03 pm

                 BM’s feeling a bit chuffed because he got given the CT memo early and has been running this line for a while.
             • repateet …

               15 March 2017 at 9:25 pm

               It just confuses things when the one pointing out an opponent’s weaknesses is person who some try to portray as a nice young person doing all these positive things and is the voice and face for the future, but who just turns out to be another arrogant cow prepared to do anything for power.
             • Draco T Bastard …

               16 March 2017 at 12:11 am

               It’s not dirty politics to point out an opponent’s weaknesses.

               Really?

               So, when Labour does it to National neither you nor other RWNJs will be calling it dirty, nasty politics like you have in the past then?

               Facts are Jacinda Ardern is where she is because the big brains in Labour thinks the NZ voters are thickos who will be swayed by a pretty face and a smile.

               NOooo, that would be National.

               So, that would be you projecting your own biases and bigotry onto others.
         • Robert Guyton 1.3.1.1.3

           15 March 2017 at 8:55 pm

           They see her as “a vector to attack Andrew Little” – dirty politics continues to be the modus operandi for the National Party then – colour me astonished!
           • Draco T Bastard 1.3.1.1.3.1

             16 March 2017 at 12:11 am

             +111
2. adam 2

   15 March 2017 at 5:45 pm

   Be afraid, and out of that start organizing. Do it locally – DO it NOW!

   The wonderful Abby Martin does a full expose on Steve Bannon.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HelSaMSy8HY
   • joe90 2.1

     15 March 2017 at 6:32 pm

     Goodbye regulations covering climate change, the environment, and workers’ rights – hello corporate overlords.

     White House counsel Don McGahn has assembled a team of elite lawyers with the stated goal of leading Trump Administration efforts to roll back regulatory powers across the U.S. government.

     The plan of attack, run from the second floor of the West Wing, is designed to take apart what Trump advisor Stephen Bannon has called “the Administrative State,” the collection of federal agencies that exists to carry out laws passed by Congress and authorities granted to the President. Trump aides argue that these bureaucracies have become an independent federal power sources that sometimes works against the intent of the U.S. Congress and U.S. Constitution.

     […]

     One White House aide described the group of lawyers hired by McGahn as a conservative answer to “Nader’s Raiders,” a small group of liberal activists organized by Ralph Nader in the 1960s and 1970s, who successfully fought for greater federal regulation of consumer goods like automobiles and food.

     McGahn said he had specifically chosen his staff because of their expertise in working inside federal law. “They understand the regulatory agencies, several are appellate lawyers who have spent their careers fighting regulatory and government overreach, or worked on Capitol Hill conducting oversight,” McGahn said in an interview with TIME. “A number of people in the office actually have sued the government over regulatory over reach, and have won.”

     http://time.com/4700311/donald-trump-white-house-counsel-steve-bannon/
     • adam 2.1.1

       15 March 2017 at 6:49 pm

       Only if we lucky, He wants to destroy the world.
3. joe90 3

   15 March 2017 at 5:47 pm

   heh

   https://twitter.com/nebiyoumg/status/841798944581644290
4. Tautoko Mangō Mata 4

   15 March 2017 at 7:21 pm

   “Peter Thiel ‘exceptional circumstances’ citizenship clause never used again”
   Matt Nippert

   • Internal Affairs figures confirm billionaire’s citizenship a one-off
   • Opposition says rarity makes “can’t recall” by Minister unbelievable
   • Unclear spy agency ties to Thiel’s Palantir prompt Ombudsman complaint

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11817842
   • Carolyn_nth 4.1

     15 March 2017 at 7:27 pm

     An interesting article, as much for what remains hidden as for the info gleaned from diverse sources – indicating what might be hidden about Thiel’s relationship with NZ, and whether or not his company Palantir was services the GCSB and SIS.
5. Pete George 5

   15 March 2017 at 8:28 pm

   Trevor Mallard got a bit of a bashing on Twitter today when he showed that he still has a mean streak.

   “Kids help keep my successor Ginny grounded. Contrast that with the privileged opponent.”

   He repeated that on Facebook. He has since deleted the Tweet and the second sentence on Facebook.

   That was probably not helpful for Andersen, and may not have helped Mallard get the list placing he needs to get in to the Speaker’s chair via the list.
   • millsy 5.1

     16 March 2017 at 1:22 am

     Your National mates have said worse but you give them a free pass.
     • Pete George 5.1.1

       16 March 2017 at 5:37 am

       That’s a lame response, it’s false, and gives Mallard a free pass.
6. Xero to Hero 6

   16 March 2017 at 2:36 am

   Thiel – biggest, first investor in Facebook – total awareness of social interactions.
   Thiel – biggest investor in Xero -total awareness of the huge number of businesses who use Xero’s “Cloud” and all their financial information (there is no cloud, just other people’s computers, including Thiel’s)
7. Antoine 7

   16 March 2017 at 3:42 am

   Not cool: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/90410800/nivanuatu-rse-workers-and-marlborough-vineyard-contractor-embroiled-in-contract-dispute
8. Antoine 8

   16 March 2017 at 5:17 am

   What do people make of this?
   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11818858

   I feel it is a nice idea but can’t help feeling it could go badly wrong…

   For instance if the river floods and damages low lying property, can it be prosecuted?

   A.
   • Sabine 8.1

     16 March 2017 at 6:43 am

     if people build in flood plains and the river floods, can they be prosecuted for shortsightedness and stupidity? Can the council be sued for issuing permits, can the developers be sued for wanting to build in a flood plain knowing that there is a risk for floods?

     Oh my gosh, the humanity. Only corporations are people, people are only consumers, and rivers are a resource to be used until it is no more.
   • One Anonymous Bloke 8.2

     16 March 2017 at 6:51 am

     What do I make of it? Why, you’re being lazy and rude again.

     Do your own homework, weasel.
     • Antoine 8.2.1

       16 March 2017 at 7:15 am

       So it isn’t actually getting the rights and responsibilities of a natural person?
       • One Anonymous Bloke 8.2.1.1

         16 March 2017 at 7:26 am

         Read the document in the link or the Bill and find out for yourself.

         You won’t do that, because you aren’t really interested in the answer.
         • Antoine 8.2.1.1.1

           16 March 2017 at 7:58 am

           I read the linked document and came to the above conclusion (also concluding that the quality of the journalism on the subject was particularly poor) (as is often the case).
           • One Anonymous Bloke 8.2.1.1.1.1

             16 March 2017 at 8:05 am

             Please explain your conclusion and how you arrived at it with specific reference to sections and clauses in the legislation.
           • Antoine 8.2.1.1.1.2

             17 March 2017 at 1:57 pm

             An (apparently) good summary:

             http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/90516475/if-the-whanganui-river-is-a-person-is-it-just-like-you-and-me
     • Pete George 8.2.2

       16 March 2017 at 7:30 am

       It didn’t take you long to ignore good advice and find a new target for your petty provocations, did it.
       • One Anonymous Bloke 8.2.2.1

         16 March 2017 at 7:44 am

         🙄

         You’re projecting, Peter. Antoine’s a lot better at petty provocation than you are, though.

         The answer to Antoine’s genuine and totally sincere, honest concern is right there in the bill, even though it requires some thought to work it out.
         • Pete George 8.2.2.1.1

           16 March 2017 at 7:52 am

           Funny you mention projecting.

           “Why, you’re being lazy and rude again.”

           You’ve targeted, tried to provoke and tried to drive people away for years. It’s your primary MO.

           I thought you were advised to put a bit of effort into saying something for yourself, but it hasn’t taken you long to revert to lazy again.
           • One Anonymous Bloke 8.2.2.1.1.1

             16 March 2017 at 8:03 am

             So lazy that I Googled then provided two links to substantive information on the subject, including the actual text of the legislation.

             I’m not trying to drive anyone away, Peter. If I were, I’d be more like you. Rather, I think right wing commenters can be improved.

             Antoine has been warned several times for this behaviour. Why should anyone play his games?
         • Antoine 8.2.2.1.2

           16 March 2017 at 7:58 am

           > Antoine’s a lot better at petty provocation than you are, though.

           You’re sweet 🙂

           A.

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