This National government and the several phases of Liberals in Australia have worked very hard on destroying the NZ-AUS relationship. I wouldn’t put it past the Nats to destroy it a little more in an attempt to stop Jacinda.
Listen to and look at this first class bitch from across the Tasman! Makes Paula Bennett seem like a pussy cat. Jacinda Ardern has called her out for making a false claim. She has called the Australian Ambassador into her office for an urgent meeting. A diplomatic incident in the making?
Jacinda has got to do more. She must stand up to Julie Bishop and demand an apology. Nothing less will suffice.
Have just watched TV1 news. Another resignation coming up? Or at best Hipkins loses his portfolios and is banished to the back benches for some time out?
Just send him to the back benches. He hasn’t been corrupt.
This whole thing in Aussie about MPs’ citizenship looks to me like gotcha politics, and a distraction from important issues. A beat up. And our media shouldn’t be using it to do more of the same.
Fuck should anyone apologise to the Australian government for anything related to their disgusting racist attitudes to citizenship and nationality/ethnicity. What are they going to do? Exile Kiwi born criminals or something?
It could be bad if Australia were being ruled by racist trash and racist trash in the National Party seized upon it to inflame popular opinion and foster hatred and division, but I don’t really think they need any help to do that.
Must be why the Libs lost 2 division orders in parliament this afternoon Aye, 69 to the left and 61 to the right, there’s a few Libs voting against Bishop and Turnbull, you don’t appear to know the facts, Bishops beat up is bullshit.
Yeah, it appears old Julie went off half cocked as did I and apologise for that (hipskins got some airtime on the ABC tonight), but I was very impressed with NZ Labour Party leader tonight she handled herself very well. I’m starting to wonder if old Mal will last to the end mth now if rightwing of the liberal party are starting to revolt.
…if rightwing of the liberal party are starting to revolt.
They are always revolting – in both senses of the word. The problem for the Liberals is that their factions (like those of the National party here) are really only united by the desire to hold power. The problem is that they don’t want the other liberal factions to hold it instead of themselves.
I think Mal’s day are numbered either way and depending on how this Section 44 drama plays out though the courts over the next few mths, we could either have a new government or it could a new elections and I’m really sure who’s called it would be if we end up back at the polls?
exkiwiforces
You are bringing some good discussion here.
I’ll pass on my learnings about taming links when they turn out to be massive. (I think there are hints in TS FAQs also.)
After you see the link is a monster on the page do this.
At the start of it you put Chosen term
So if you chose as your term Mal’s days numbered that is all you would see on the page but it would be highlighted showing that the link is in those words.
I agree. From what Jacinda said, he was asked to check it out for the relevant time period & had no other information as to context. Sounds like it was only a matter of time before it was made public anyway. That statement by Julie Bishop was well OTT.
Over on Newshub Gower went all out at Hipkins.
Clearly Julie Bishop’s intended target was Bill Shorten but you get the feeling she was happy to take a swipe at NZ Labour along the way.
I reckon Ardern did a pretty good job pushing back.
I reckon Ardern did a pretty good job pushing back.
Yes, and Corin Dann gave her full credit for it.
Loved to have been a fly on the wall at the meeting with the Aussie Ambassador. Although knowing Jacinda her bollocking of Julie Bishop would have been couched in tasteful language.
Just as well I never sought a parliamentary career. My bollocking would have reverberated for years afterwards. 🙁
“Just call me Julie!”
Ardern is keeping it classy. That will serve her well. I was talking to some Australians today about the whole business and they remarked at how impressive she was (for one so young, as they put it).
Yep. I know there are going to be a few times in Ardern’s time where I want her to drop the nice act and go for the jugular but I reckon I’m going to be disappointed.
She’ll be right mate. She’s got a bit more mongrel than the Aussie’s it seems. And a dash of diplomacy when needed. Its a breath of fresh air after all the insipid dishwater we’ve been served up for the last 9 years.
This is why you don’t want to piss off our Julie (or Bob Katter or Jackie Lambie) as she goes off like belt fed mortar and if this dickhead Hipkins has acted in a unethical (underarm way) way I hope Jacinda Ardern kick’s him where it bloody hurts.
As I said to my folks via email lastnight while its been piss funny over here with every pollie ducking for cover atm. (I don’t think the guys from yes minster couldn’t write a script for this and its a bloody shame John Clarke is no longer here as he would be having a field day) but, Today-
as Expats like me are copping a lot off flak ATM from this dickhead Hipkins and if he has acted in a unethical (underarm way) way, he better hope I don’t have to come home very soon or else he will get more than kick where it bloody hurts from me that’s for sure!
I usually have skin thicker than a snapping handbag (Salt water Crocodile) , it getting real nasty.
Nasty subversive Hipkins, monkeywrenching noble Australian racist laws like that. It’s not like pointed humour ever led to people thinking about stuff, eh.
Nah, what am I saying! Hipkins is more likely to be the patsy in some Dirty Politics scam.
Boohoo, cobber. You live and die by the place you chose to live. What gives you the right to even comment on NZ issues when you don’t live here, don’t pay taxes here, and contribute absolutely nothing!
I still pay my taxes from my investments, i’m still on the roll, I still visit from time to time to catch up with friends and see my parents. I work alongside Kiwis and expats.
Must be a green voter are we?
BTW, i’m probably more red than you are! Below is my great great grandfather
Firstly i was stirring the pot in regards to Julie, as hell would have to freeze before I even think of supporting those muppets.
Secondly I’m probably more of NZF voter than a Labour voter now as Labour hasn’t won me back yet.
Thirdly I left New Zealand under a National government back 98 like a lot people I know as we saw no future under the neo liberal bullshit that was National then and now as Labour back then was little unknown when you look at its pass record.
Finally I almost came back home after a hell year that was 2006 with work, apart from 3wks hunting and visiting in NZ as I spent nearly 9 to 10mths doing back to back operations. With a plan to enter parliament, but I was talked out of it (from either end of the ditch) and with the benefit of hindsight I should’ve had a cracking it after a chance meeting with a couple of people some yrs afterwards (Its funny who you bump into in my line of work overseas) as the plan I had might’ve work and some smart ass Tory may have lost their seat?
Boohoo, cobber. You live and die by the place you chose to live. What gives you the right to even comment on NZ issues when you don’t live here, don’t pay taxes here, and contribute absolutely nothing!
Are you really saying you only want ‘contributing’, resident New Zealanders to have an opinion? Sounds a bit Trumpy.
The only person she has to be pissed off with is herself and the person who held dual citizenship. They should have done their bloody homework as at least one of them would have known that their father was a Kiwi and many countries, especially Commonwealth countries, have as law that if your father was of that country then you get to be a citizen even if you weren’t born their. I wouldn’t be surprised if Australia had the same bloody law.
Was it a proper parliamentary question? Probably not. just look up the relevant law in legislation.govt.nz.
Did Hipkins mention anybody by name? Nope.
It is something that both sides need to know. Politicians here to help NZ citizens and politicians there so that shit like this doesn’t happen.
What a bunch of pussies the reporters are. She talked on and on repeating herself and walked off with a smirk and a wiggle. They should have been interrupting her after the second sentence.
Should really just call Julie Bishop a greasy scumbag for trying to interfere in the upcoming New Zealand election, and encourage all the Aussie based kiwis to get out and vote if they want to see someone properly fight for New Zealanders in Australia.
Exactly!
Seems to be a distraction by Bishop and a hypocritical one at that, ironically the more rabid and extreme their accusations the more support will go to both Oz-Labor & NZ-Labour as across the ditch they have had enough of sanctimonious Turnbull & Co and over on this side of the ditch a lot of folk have had a gutsfull of how Oz-NZers rights are being eroded.
#Schadenfreude.
I wasn’t hoping for anything.
Just a bit surprised that TV1 went for the proper news story (thousands of people on a boil water notice in our 5th largest city – more of the brighter future?) rather than the big drama of the day.
ABC News is reporting that another Liberal MP, the Member for Gilmore, NSW may be a dual AUS/UK citizen. A by-election there could be far more problematic for Turnbull than Joyce’s seat, the margin was only 1500 at the last election.
Pretty fucking terrifying as the whole system relies on a having a rational president in charge.
There are no checks and balances every thing is set up for an instantaneous response so if Trump the unhinged decides for whatever reason he’s going to nuke that fucker there is nothing that can be done to stop him, missiles are going to fly.
The fate of the world rests in the hands of a 70-year man who’s a raging deluded narcissist and has what looks like the early onset of Alzheimer’s,
Fucks sake man, where have you been for the past nine months? Because I’ve been hoping that in that time that the security dudes with the guns in the war room have used that time to figure out whose side they’re on when it comes down to it, and I’m not talking about Republican vs Democrat.
Because I’ve been hoping that in that time that the security dudes with the guns in the war room have used that time to figure out whose side they’re on when it comes down to it, and I’m not talking about Republican vs Democrat.
Not sure if joking, but anyway it doesn’t work that like.
From the article
As mentioned earlier, the president is the sole decision-maker. But he must consult two people to make that decision.
He must talk with the Pentagon’s deputy director of operations in charge of the National Military Command Center, or “war room,” the heart of the Pentagon from where all US military operations are directed. The current deputy director is Lt. Gen. John Dolan. The president must also speak with the commander of US Strategic Command, currently Gen. John Hyten.
The length of the conversation depends on the president. It also doesn’t have to be held in the White House’s Situation Room; it can happen anywhere over a secured phone line.
He’s a shadow of himself. Usually on point in attempting to crush the voice of social conscience in NZ, BM is now used goods reduced to twittering about Trump.
The apparatus of the state used to intimidate/stifle dissenters.
The Department of Justice has requested information on visitors to a website used to organize protests against President Trump, the Los Angeles-based Dreamhost said in a blog post published on Monday.
Dreamhost, a web hosting provider, said that it has been working with the Department of Justice for several months on the request, which believes goes too far under the Constitution.
Can someone please catch me up on the Aussie thing?
You can’t be an MP if you have dual citizenship? A couple of Green MPs had to stand down recently? This week Chris Hipkins asks in the NZ parliament about NZers with Australian citizenship, and this prompts journos to be asking about other MPs? I don’t get it, wouldn’t everyone be looking at this already after the Green MPs had to resign? Or am I missing something there?
To answer your first question weka. You must be an Australian citizen to stand for both seats of parliament. Section 44 goes all the way to Federation of Commonwealth States of Australia 1901 and its becoming a bit of horses ass of a law ATM.
A lot of people where I work (and probably most of Australia) thought this was piss funny until that Hipkins put his two bobs worth in and now its got real nasty.
It’s more the other stuff I’m not following. Was Hipkins shitstirring? And why weren’t the Australian media all over all the politicians before that, including Barnaby Joyce?
Two Greens senators have resigned. One government minister has had to step down from his portfolio. There are serious questions being raised over a One Nation senator and another government MP, and a reported 20 more hurriedly checking their paperwork. Section 44 of the Australian constitution is smashing through the federal parliament like a wrecking ball, as parliamentarians sweat over their citizenship and whether they — knowingly or not — hold some foreign citizenship status.
But why can’t you be an MP if you’re a dual citizen? The section of the constitution in question, 44(i), states:
Any person who: is under any acknowledgment of allegiance, obedience, or adherence to a foreign power, or is a subject or a citizen or entitled to the rights or privileges of a subject or a citizen of a foreign power… shall be incapable of being chosen or of sitting as a senator or a member of the House of Representatives.
By some outdated law in Australia you can’t be a Member of the Federal Parliament and a dual citizen of some other country.
For a nation of immigrants, go figure. Maybe they should only let their first peoples sit in the parliament in Canberra.
Up until recently nobody really paid much attention to this arcane bit of electoral law it seems. Anyway it turns out that none less than the Deputy PM has succumbed on account of being a dreadful NZer.
This leaves Mr Turnbull in a parlous state since he managed to lose a few seats at the last election and doesn’t have any MPs to spare. The prospect of another election which the Coalition would almost certainly lose was enough to send Julie-baby into a fit today.
Her main target was the Labor leader Bill Shorten but it seems she was happy to do our government here a favour and throw a hand grenade into our election by implicating NZ Labour in the devious plot to reveal Barnaby Joyce’s dreadful lineage.
Ta. I commented above, about not understanding why after the original Green senators the media hadn’t looked at all politicians’ citizenship. And wtf was Hipkins doing?
They seem to have been quite lax in Australia with regard to this law. It’s rather bitten them all on the bum.
Hipkins was shit-stirring, terrible of him really, but that’s what Opposition MPs do, isn’t it?
Oz Labour started this current shit fight when there were questions about Bob Day in the Senate and since then a been a gift that keeps on giving.
Yes we are lax/ causal about Section 44 and I don’t think Oz Labour thought it would get so out hand as it has and I said Carolyn it may end up biting Labour in the ass after all with 7 of it members now maybe in question as well.
I assumed
1. not born in nZ
2. Not Samoan
3. One parent a NZ Citizen when born
4. That parent was a citizen by birth
Result:
You are a New Zealand citizen by descent
This isn’t exactly rocket science. Any moron can look this up – and evidently Julie Bishop is more of a moron than I’d realised.
The real problem isn’t that his father was born in NZ. It is the strange law that the aussies have about the way that they treat anyone in parliament who is a child of an immigrant. I’d point out that the large number of cousins in Aussie who would all be over the age of 50 now and who have lived there their entire life would also be unable to enter parliament. How fucked up is that?
Matt Caravan had to step aside as the minister for northern Australia as his mother put him down as Italian citizen at the age of 28 and she forgot to tell until after the 2 greens from senate step down. In fact the poor bloke wasn’t born there and hasn’t been for a holiday.
That why its so piss funny about the whole thing until today
Not to take away from your point Lynne. or the thread…
But just to add that the large number of cousins in Aussie who would all be over the age of 50 now and who have lived there their entire life would also be ineligible for citizenship. and/or those benefits… How fucked up is that?
“How fucked up is that”.
The only fucked up thing about this is your statement.
It is completely wrong.
If they have lived there all there life and are over 50, as you claim, then provided they haven’t got a serious criminal; record they can apply for citizenship tomorrow, and they’ll get it.
Why don’t you look at what the actual law is, and in particular what it means if they were in Australia on 26 February 2001. Then you can discuss the matter. What you have said here is total rubbish.
They tend to be aussie citizens because they were all there prior to 2001. So they collected aussie passports and atrocious accents.
But I doubt that any of them have renounced the kiwi citizenship either.
For that matter a couple of my grandparents generation from various wings of the family were entitled to aussie citizenship as their parents hopped over this side of the tasman early last century.
I think I have one 2nd cousin who moved there a few years ago to do a doctorate and seems to be pretty settled in Melbourne. I must ask her what she is planning to do.
I’m not certain whether it was actually correct but I remember reading an article a year or so ago which claimed that anyone from New Zealand who had even passed through an Australian airport prior to the 2001 date could avoid all the problems.
The only visa then available to New Zealand citizens was the permanent resident one. That was what you got when you entered Australia, even it was only for a couple of hours.
The article argued that since you had had a permanent resident visa you could simply ask that it be reactivated, and that they would have to do it. Then you could start down the path to citizenship.
So, if anyone passed through Australia on the way to Europe in the 1980’s, and now want to raise the IQ on both sides of the Tasman by moving across the ditch that is the way to do it. The 2001 law doesn’t apply to you.
I don’t remember where I read this, or whether it was true but a lawyer might to able to confirm or deny it.
ok, so the whole trying to have a go a NZLP is just some stupid flailing around shit when they weren’t doing their job properly, it’s nothing to do with NZ at all.
I think the fourth estate have been caught up in the Same Sex Marriage thing and the silly politics by Labour and the followers of the Mad Monk over SSM. But there has been some rumours about who was next to be caught up with Section 44 and now know who.
Haven’t been following Oz pol tbh, but I would have thought that after the two Green senators stepped down that there would have been a general call to parliamentarians to sort out their status. Was everyone hoping it would just go away?
Yes, you would’ve thought after the two greens senators that these smug arrogant clowns in the upper and lower houses in Oz would’ve done a family background check? Hell even some idiot try to trip old Henchie under section 44, he like an old school member of the fourth estate knew he had to renounce his NZ citizenship before standing for the upper house in the last federal election.
Even some MSM got their kinkers in a twist over fat boy missiles and starting jumping and down with “we must get a ABM system to protect Australia from North Korea”
By some outdated law in Australia you can’t be a Member of the Federal Parliament and a dual citizen of some other country.
I wouldn’t call that an outdated law.
IMO, nobody should be able to hold dual citizenship as it raises too much conflict of interest – see Thiel. He’s in the US working in their Administration and against the best interests of NZ by default. That makes him a traitor BTW.
Answered my 1st political poll in my 66 years tonight. I didn’t hear which organization was running it. Things are getting interesting.
Julie Bishop reminded me of a dominatrix dressed all in black and she looked and sounded like she was out to give someone a good beating. Hope she doesn’t go home and kick the cat.
Someone’s pretending that right wing political parties don’t collaborate and share resources the world over. (cf: Lord Mr. Ashcroft, Putin, Trump, Pinochet, Key etc etc.)
Either that or it’s only a problem when the left does it. And/or (my pick) Hipkins is a patsy.
My partner tells me that Barnaby Joyce’s father went to Australia in 1947 and at that time we, Australians and New Zealanders were British subjects. It was only in 1948 we two countries attained our own individual nationalities – New Zealanders and Australian subjects. So why are we even in this row, surely this should be a stoush between the UK and Australia. Just my thoughts for the evening. Why hasn’t this been brought up.
Since shonky, recently honoured by OZ as a thank you, happily stood by whilst Abbott and Turnbull removed kiwis rights and didn’t reciprocate by doing same here.
Had they have done that the Oz media
It’s not just here national have been screwing kiwis over by their action or inaction. Key allowed kiwis to, in some cases, be treated like Oz treat the boat people.
I am sick of our country being used as Aussies bum boy.
Handled right this could be an opportunity for Jacinda to shine.
It’s ok though for the Australian right to publicly back our government by encouraging kiwis living in Aussie to vote for the National party in our 2014 general election !!!
Fleewees living in Australia shouldn’t be entitled to vote in NZ elections, imo.
If you leave the country to ‘further your career’ or some other bullshit then you should also relinquish your rights to vote on matters important to New Zealand.
Have a crack when you decide to come home and contribute…
OPINION: … ” Despite longstanding agreements which are supposed to give us special rights, New Zealanders seeking a better life in Australia have not been made to feel welcome.
They’re not allowed to access unemployment benefits, university subsidies or disaster relief. And even though last year Aussie agreed to give us a special path to citizenship, this year they betrayed that agreement.
So tell me again about this so-called special relationship?
Besides that, the Aussie government is now rounding up Kiwis with criminal records and sending them back to New Zealand, even those ones who have lived in Australia since they were babies.
Along the way, some get stuck in detention centres, essentially being put back in jail for crimes they’ve already paid for.
Almost 1000 of them have now been sent back here and surprise, surprise – 20 percent of them have reoffended. Remember Australia is not working with the New Zealand government on this. They make a decision and then we pay for it.
Now when Aussies arrive in New Zealand they get the full Anzac treatment, right? Permanent residency, within a few years they get access to student loans, and to benefits. Becoming a citizen costs less than 500 bucks.
Kiwis arriving in Australia get none of that. When our politicians raise it in meetings we’re ignored and the 600,000 Kiwis living in Australia can’t do anything about it, because despite paying full taxes, they’re not allowed to vote.
Forget the trans-Tasman friendship in 2017 – Australia is basically a bully.
So Julie Bishop, when you say you’ll find it hard to work with New Zealand, what exactly do you mean? How much worse could it possibly get? ”…
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Subversive & Disruptive Technologies: Just as happened with that other great regulator of the masses, the Medieval Church, the advent of a new and hard-to-control technology – the Internet – is weakening the ties that bind. Then, and now, those who enjoy a monopoly on the dissemination of lies, cannot and will ...
Been Here Before: To find the precedents for what this Coalition Government is proposing, it is necessary to return to the “glory days” of Muldoonism.THE COALITION GOVERNMENT has celebrated its first 100 days in office by checking-off the last of its listed commitments. It remains, however, an angry government. It ...
Bob Edlin writes – And what is the world watching today…? The email newsletter from Associated Press which landed in our mailbox early this morning advised: In the news today: The father of a school shooter has been found guilty of involuntary manslaughter; prosecutors in Trump’s hush-money case ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Is another Green MP on their way out? And are the Greens severely tarnished by another integrity scandal? For the second time in three months, the Green Party has secretly suspended an MP over integrity issues. Mystery is surrounding the party’s decision to ...
For the last few years, the Green Party has been the party that has managed to avoid the plague of multiple scandals that have beleaguered other political parties. It appears that their luck has run out with a second scandal which, unfortunately for them, coincided with Golraz Ghahraman, the focus ...
TL;DR: The six newsey things that stood out to me as of 6:46am on Saturday, March 16.Andy Foster has accidentally allowed a Labour/Green amendment to cut road user chargers for plug-in hybrid vehicles, which the Government might accept; NZ HeraldThomas CoughlanSimeon Brown has rejected a plea from Westport ...
What seemed a booming success a couple of years ago has collapsed into fraud convictions.I looked at the crash of FTX (short for ‘Futures Exchange’) in November 2022 to see whether it would impact on the financial system as a whole. Fortunately there was barely a ripple, probably because it ...
Anybody following the situation in Ukraine and Russia would probably have been amused by a recent Tweet on X NATO seems to be putting in an awful lot of effort to influence what is, at least according to them, a sham election in an autocracy.When do the Ukrainians go to ...
TL;DR:Shaun Baker on Wynyard Quarter's transformation. Magdalene Taylor on the problem with smart phones. How private equity are now all over reinsurance. Dylan Cleaver on rugby and CTE. Emily Atkin on ‘Big Meat’ looking like ‘Big Oil’.Bernard’s six-stack of substacks at 6pm on March 15Photo by Jeppe Hove Jensen ...
Buzz from the Beehive Finance Minister Nicola Willis had plenty to say when addressing the Auckland Business Chamber on the economic growth that (she tells us) is flagging more than we thought. But the government intends to put new life into it: We want our country to be a ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee has reported back on the Road User Charges (Light Electric RUC Vehicles) Amendment Bill, basicly rubberstamping it. While there was widespread support among submitters for the principle that EV and PHEV drivers should pay their fair share for the roads, they also overwhelmingly disagreed with ...
Peter Dunne writes – This week’s government bailout – the fifth in the last eighteen months – of the financially troubled Ruapehu Alpine Lifts company would have pleased many in the central North Island ski industry. The government’s stated rationale for the $7 million funding was that it ...
See if you can spot the difference. An Iranian born female MP from a progressive party is accused of serial shoplifting. Her name is leaked to the media, which goes into a pack frenzy even before the Police launch an … Continue reading → ...
Ele Ludemann writes – The government is omitting general Treaty references from legislation : The growth of Treaty of Waitangi clauses in legislation caused so much worry that a special oversight group was set up by the last Government in a bid to get greater coherence in the public service on Treaty ...
What was that judge thinking?Peter Williams writes – That Golriz Ghahraman and District Court Judge Maria Pecotic were once lawyer colleagues is incontrovertible. There is published evidence that they took at least one case to the Court of Appeal together. There was a report on ...
TL;DR: My top 10 news and analysis links this morning include:Today’s must-read:Climate Scorpion – the sting is in the tail. Introducing planetary solvency. A paper via the University of Exeter’s Institute and Faculty of Actuaries.Local scoop:Kāinga Ora starts pulling out of its Auckland projects and selling land RNZ ...
Wellington’s massively upzoned District Plan adds the opportunity for tens of thousands of new homes not just in the central city (such as these Webb St new builds) but also close to the CBD and public transport links. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Wellington gave itself the chance of ...
It’s Friday and we’re halfway through March Madness. Here’s some of the things that caught our attention this week. This Week in Greater Auckland On Monday Matt asked how we can get better event trains and an option for grade separating Morningside Dr. On Tuesday Matt looked into ...
Something you might not know about me is that I’m quite a stubborn person. No, really. I don’t much care for criticism I think’s unfair or that I disagree with. Few of us do I suppose.Back when I was a drinker I’d sometimes respond defensively, even angrily. There are things ...
Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The five things that mattered in Aotearoa’s political economy that we wrote and spoke about via The Kākā and elsewhere for paying subscribers in the last week included:PM Christopher Luxon said the reversal of interest deductibility for landlords was done to help renters, who ...
It was not so much the Labour Party but really the Chris Hipkins party yesterday at Labour’s caucus retreat in Martinborough. The former Prime Minister was more or less consistent on wealth tax, which he was at best equivocal about, and social insurance, which he was not willing to revisit. ...
Buzz from the BeehiveThe text reproduced above appears on a page which records all the media statements and speeches posted on the government’s official website by Melissa Lee as Minister of Media and Communications and/or by Jenny Marcroft, her Parliamentary Under-secretary. It can be quickly analysed ...
For forty years, Robert Muldoon has been a dirty word in our politics. His style of government was so repulsive and authoritarian that the backlash to it helped set and entrench our constitutional norms. His pig-headedness over forcing through Think Big eventually gave us the RMA, with its participation and ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Is the new government reducing tax on rental properties to benefit landlords or to cut the cost of rents? That’s the big question this week, after Associate Finance Minister David Seymour announced on Sunday that the Government would be reversing the Labour Government’s removal ...
Saudi Arabia is rarely far from the international spotlight. The war in Gaza has brought new scrutiny to Saudi plans to normalise relations with Israel, while the fifth anniversary of the controversial killing of Jamal Khashoggi was marked shortly before the war began on October 7. And as the home ...
Questions need to be asked on both sides of the worldPeter Williams writes – The NRL Judiciary hands down an eight week suspension to Sydney Roosters forward Spencer Leniu , an Auckland-born Samoan, after he calls Ezra Mam, Sydney-orn but of Aboriginal and Torres Strait ...
Ele Ludemann writes – Contrary to what many headlines and news stories are saying, residential landlords are not getting a tax break. The government is simply restoring to them the tax deductibility of interest they had until the previous government removed it. There is no logical reason ...
I can't remember when it was goodMoments of happiness in bloomMaybe I just misunderstoodAll of the love we left behindWatching our flashbacks intertwineMemories I will never findIn spite of whatever you becomeForget that reckless thing turned onI think our lives have just begunI think our lives have just begunDoes anyone ...
Michael Bassett writes – At first reading, a front-page story in the New Zealand Herald on 13 March was bizarre. A group of severely intellectually limited teenagers, with little understanding of the law, have been pleading to the Justice Select Committee not to pass a bill dealing with ram ...
How much political capital is Christopher Luxon willing to burn through in order to deliver his $2.9 billion gift to landlords? Evidently, Luxon is: (a) unable to cost the policy accurately. As Anna Burns-Francis pointed out to him on Breakfast TV, the original ”rock solid” $2.1 billion cost he was ...
TL;DR: My top 10 news and analysis links this morning include:Today’s must-read:Jonathon Porritt calling bullshit in his own blog post on mainstream climate science as ‘The New Denialism’.Local scoop:The Wellington City Council’s list of proposed changes to the IHP recommendations to be debated later today was leaked this ...
TL;DR:Prime Minister Christopher Luxon said yesterday tenants should be grateful for the reinstatement of interest deductibility because landlords would pass on their lower tax costs in the form of lower rents. That would be true if landlords were regulated monopolies such as Transpower or Auckland Airport1, but they’re not, ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Tom Toro Tom Toro is a cartoonist and author. He has published over 200 cartoons in The New Yorker since 2010. His cartoons appear in Playboy, the Paris Review, the New York Times, American Bystander, and elsewhere. Related: What 10 EV lovers ...
The business section of the NZ Herald is full of opinion. Among the more opinionated of all is the ex-Minister of Transport, ex-Minister of Railways, ex MP for Auckland Central (1975-93, Labour), Wellington Central (1996-99, ACT, then list-2005), ex-leader of the ACT Party, uncle to actor Antonia, the veritable granddaddy ...
Hi,Just quickly — I’m blown away by the stories you’ve shared with me over the last week since I put out the ‘Gary’ podcast, where I told you about the time my friend’s flatmate killed the neighbour.And you keep telling me stories — in the comments section, and in my ...
The first season of Rings of Power was not awful. It was thoroughly underwhelming, yes, and left a lingering sense of disappointment, but it was more expensive mediocrity than catastrophe. I wrote at length about the series as it came out (see the Review section of the blog, and go ...
Buzz from the Beehive Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden told Auckland Business Chamber members they were the first audience to hear her priorities as a minister in a government committed to cutting red tape and regulations. She brandished her liberalising credentials, saying Flexible labour markets are the ...
Chris Trotter writes – TO UNDERSTAND WHY NEWSHUB FAILED, it is necessary to understand how TVNZ changed. Up until 1989, the state broadcaster had been funded by a broadcasting licence fee, collected from every citizen in possession of a television set, supplemented by a relatively modest (compared ...
Bob Edlin writes – The Māori Party has been busy issuing a mix of warnings and threats as its expresses its opposition to interest deductibility for landlords and the plans of seabed miners. It remains to be seen whether they follow the example of indigenous litigants in Australia, ...
The Government has accepted Labour’s change to the Road User Charge (RUC) discount for hybrid vehicles, meaning there will still be some incentive for people to buy greener vehicles. ...
Kicking the most vulnerable people out of state housing and pushing them towards homelessness will result in a proliferation of poverty and trauma across our most vulnerable communities. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader and MP for Waiariki, Rawiri Waititi has penned a letter asking MPs to support his members bill to remove GST from all food. The bill is expected to go through its first reading in parliament this Wednesday. “I’m calling on all political parties to support my ...
This year is about getting real with Kiwis and discussing the tough issues, as the National Government exacerbates inequality and divides New Zealand, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said ...
The Government adding Significant Natural Areas (SNAs) to its already roaring environmental policy bonfire is an assault on the future of wildlife that makes Aotearoa unique. ...
After 12 years of fighting to protect our moana we are finding ourselves back at square one and back at court. Today, the Environmental Protection Agency is sitting in Hawera to reconsider an application from Trans-Tasman Resources to dig up 50 million tonnes of the seabed in South Taranaki. This ...
Minister Shane Jones’ decision to step away from a seabed mining project is evidence of the murky waters surrounding the Government’s fast-track legislation. ...
The growth of Treaty of Waitangi clauses in legislation caused so much worry that a special oversight group was set up by the last government in a bid to get greater coherence in the publicservice on Treaty matters. When ministers first considered the need for tighter oversight in 2021, there ...
The growth of Treaty of Waitangi clauses in legislation caused so much worry that a special oversight group was set up by the last government in a bid to get greater coherence in the publicservice on Treaty matters. When ministers first considered the need for tighter oversight in 2021, there ...
The Coalition Government’s miscalculation saga continues as it has forgotten an eyewatering $90 million gap in its interest deductibility cost figures, say Labour Finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds and Revenue Spokesperson Deborah Russell. ...
He Pou a Rangi Climate Change Commission has today released advice that says if the Government doesn’t act now New Zealand is at risk of not meeting its climate goals. ...
The Coalition Government has today confirmed it is abandoning first home buyers who are struggling to get ahead, says Labour Finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds. ...
The New Zealand public voted for a change in direction at the 2023 general election and that is exactly what this coalition government has been delivering in its first 100 days. There was an immediate focus on the economy, easing the cost of living, cracking down on law and order ...
The Government has left the health system as an afterthought, announcing half-baked targets at the last minute of their 100-day plan, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The National Government has spent its first 100 days stopping, cutting and reversing. They have scrapped stuff for stuff for the sake of it, without putting up any solutions of their own – and it’s hardworking New Zealanders who will pay for it. ...
Kiwis are still waiting for their promised cost of living support after 100 days of a National Government that is taking us backwards, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
100 days of National taking NZ backwardsThe National Government has spent its first 100 days stopping, cutting and reversing. They have scrapped stuff for stuff for the sake of it, without putting up any solutions of their own – and it’s hardworking New Zealanders who will pay for it. ...
The Government must commit to funding free and healthy school lunches, as thousands of people sign the petition to keep them, education spokesperson Jan Tinetti says. ...
If the Government was serious about moving families into public housing, they would build more houses so there is actually somewhere for people to go. ...
The free and healthy school lunches programme feeds our kids, helps them to learn, and saves families money – but it is at risk under this Government, education spokesperson Jan Tinetti said. ...
The Government’s proposed changes to Firearms Prohibition Orders (FPO) add almost nothing new and are merely an attempt to distract from its plans to loosen gun laws, police spokesperson Ginny Andersen and justice spokesperson Dr Duncan Webb said. ...
The great Victorian era English politician Lord Macauley stood in the British House of Parliament and said, "The gallery in which the reporters sit has become a fourth estate of the realm".He understood and outlined even way back then, the significant role and influence media have in a democracy. ...
"The Government is moving quickly to realise an additional $46 million in tariff savings in the EU market this season for Kiwi exporters,” Minister for Trade and Agriculture, Todd McClay says. Parliament is set, this week, to complete the final legislative processes required to bring the New Zealand – European ...
New Zealand’s social workers are qualified, experienced, and more representative of the communities they serve, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “I want to acknowledge and applaud New Zealand’s social workers for the hard work they do, providing invaluable support for our most vulnerable. “To coincide with World ...
Cabinet has agreed to a reduced road user charge (RUC) rate for plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs), Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. Owners of PHEVs will be eligible for a reduced rate of $38 per 1,000km once all light electric vehicles (EVs) move into the RUC system from 1 April. ...
Minister of Agriculture and Trade, Todd McClay, says that today’s opening of Riverland Foods manufacturing plant in Christchurch is a great example of how trade access to overseas markets creates jobs in New Zealand. Speaking at the official opening of this state-of-the-art pet food factory the Minister noted that exports ...
Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters met with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Wellington today. “It was a pleasure to host Foreign Minister Wang Yi during his first official visit to New Zealand since 2017. Our discussions were wide-ranging and enabled engagement on many facets of New Zealand’s relationship with China, including trade, ...
Kāinga Ora – Homes & Communities has been instructed to end the Sustaining Tenancies Framework and take stronger measures against persistent antisocial behaviour by tenants, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Earlier today Finance Minister Nicola Willis and I sent an interim Letter of Expectations to the Board of Kāinga Ora. ...
Tēna koutou katoa. Greetings everyone. Thank you to the Auckland Chamber of Commerce and the Honourable Simon Bridges for hosting this address today. I acknowledge the business leaders in this room, the leaders and governors, the employers, the entrepreneurs, the investors, and the wealth creators. The coalition Government shares your ...
Minister Winston Peters completed the final leg of his visit to South and South East Asia in Singapore today, where he focused on enhancing one of New Zealand’s indispensable strategic partnerships. “Singapore is our most important defence partner in South East Asia, our fourth-largest trading partner and a ...
Minister of Internal Affairs and Workplace Relations and Safety, Hon. Brooke van Velden, will travel to the Republic of Korea to represent New Zealand at the Third Summit for Democracy on 18 March. The summit, hosted by the Republic of Korea, was first convened by the United States in 2021, ...
ICNZ Speech 7 March 2024, Auckland Acknowledgements and opening Mōrena, ngā mihi nui. Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Nor Whanganui aho. Good morning, it’s a privilege to be here to open the ICNZ annual conference, thank you to Mark for the Mihi Whakatau My thanks to Tim Grafton for inviting me ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Lead Coordination Minister Judith Collins have expressed their deepest sympathy on the five-year anniversary of the Christchurch terror attacks. “March 15, 2019, was a day when families, communities and the country came together both in sorrow and solidarity,” Mr Luxon says. “Today we pay our respects to the 51 shuhada ...
Speech for Financial Advice NZ Conference 5 March 2024 Acknowledgements and opening Morena, Nga Mihi Nui. Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Nor Whanganui aho. Thanks Nate for your Mihi Whakatau Good morning. It’s a pleasure to formally open your conference this morning. What a lovely day in Wellington, What a great ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters held discussions in Jakarta today about the future of relations between New Zealand and South East Asia’s most populous country. “We are in Jakarta so early in our new government’s term to reflect the huge importance we place on our relationship with Indonesia and South ...
Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters has announced that the Foreign Minister of China, Wang Yi, will visit New Zealand next week. “We look forward to re-engaging with Foreign Minister Wang Yi and discussing the full breadth of the bilateral relationship, which is one of New Zealand’s ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has today opened the new Auckland Rail Operations Centre, which will bring together KiwiRail, Auckland Transport, and Auckland One Rail to improve service reliability for Aucklanders. “The recent train disruptions in Auckland have highlighted how important it is KiwiRail and Auckland’s rail agencies work together to ...
The Government is proud to support the 10th edition of Crankworx Rotorua as the Crankworx World Tour returns to Rotorua from 16-24 March 2024, says Minister for Economic Development Melissa Lee. “Over the past 10 years as Crankworx Rotorua has grown, so too have the economic and social benefits that ...
Legislation implementing coalition Government tax commitments and addressing long-standing tax anomalies will be progressed in Parliament next week, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The legislation is contained in an Amendment Paper to the Taxation (Annual Rates for 2023–24, Multinational Tax, and Remedial Matters) Bill issued today. “The Amendment Paper represents ...
Associate Environment Minister Andrew Hoggard has today announced that the Government has agreed to suspend the requirement for councils to comply with the Significant Natural Areas (SNA) provisions of the National Policy Statement for Indigenous Biodiversity for three years, while it replaces the Resource Management Act (RMA).“As it stands, SNAs ...
Agriculture Minister Todd McClay has classified the drought conditions in the Marlborough, Tasman, and Nelson districts as a medium-scale adverse event, acknowledging the challenging conditions facing farmers and growers in the district. “Parts of Marlborough, Tasman, and Nelson districts are in the grip of an intense dry spell. I know ...
The Government is helping farmers eradicate the significant impact of facial eczema (FE) in pastoral animals, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced. “A $20 million partnership jointly funded by Beef + Lamb NZ, the Government, and the primary sector will save farmers an estimated NZD$332 million per year, and aims to ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has completed a successful visit to India, saying it was an important step in taking the relationship between the two countries to the next level. “We have laid a strong foundation for the Coalition Government’s priority of enhancing New Zealand-India relations to generate significant future benefit for both countries,” says Mr Peters, ...
Cabinet has agreed to provide $7 million to ensure the 2024 ski season can go ahead on the Whakapapa ski field in the central North Island but has told the operator Ruapehu Alpine Lifts it is the last financial support it will receive from taxpayers. Cabinet also agreed to provide ...
Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says the launch of a new mobile breast screening unit in Counties Manukau reinforces the coalition Government’s commitment to drive better cancer services for all New Zealanders. Speaking at the launch of the new mobile clinic, Dr Reti says it’s a great example of taking ...
Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says the launch of a new mobile breast screening unit in Counties Manukau reinforces the coalition Government’s commitment to drive better cancer services for all New Zealanders. Speaking at the launch of the new mobile clinic, Dr Reti says it’s a great example of taking ...
Unlocking economic growth and land for housing are critical elements of the Government’s plan for our transport network, and planned upgrades to State Highway 29 (SH29) near Tauriko will deliver strongly on those priorities, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “The SH29 upgrades near Tauriko will improve safety at the intersections ...
Unlocking economic growth and land for housing are critical elements of the Government’s plan for our transport network, and planned upgrades to State Highway 29 (SH29) near Tauriko will deliver strongly on those priorities, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “The SH29 upgrades near Tauriko will improve safety at the intersections ...
Lower fruit and vegetable prices are welcome news for New Zealanders who have been doing it tough at the supermarket, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. Stats NZ reported today the price of fruit and vegetables has dropped 9.3 percent in the 12 months to February 2024. “Lower fruit and vege ...
Tēnā koutou katoa and greetings to you all. Chair, I am honoured to address the sixty-eighth session of the Commission on the Status of Women. I acknowledge the many crises impacting the rights of women and girls. Heightened global tensions, war, climate related and humanitarian disasters, and price inflation all ...
Tēnā koutou katoa and greetings to you all. Chair, I am honoured to address the 68th session of the Commission on the Status of Women. I acknowledge the many crises impacting the rights of women and girls. Heightened global tensions, war, climate related and humanitarian disasters, and price inflation all ...
The coalition Government is supporting farmers to enhance land management practices by investing $3.3 million in locally led catchment groups, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced. “Farmers and growers deliver significant prosperity for New Zealand and it’s vital their ongoing efforts to improve land management practices and water quality are supported,” ...
Good evening everyone and thank you for that lovely introduction. Thank you also to the Honourable Simon Bridges for the invitation to address your members. Since being sworn in, this coalition Government has hit the ground running with our 100-day plan, delivering the changes that New Zealanders expect of us. ...
Recommendations from the Climate Change Commission for New Zealand on the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) auction and unit limit settings for the next five years have been tabled in Parliament, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. “The Commission provides advice on the ETS annually. This is the third time the ...
The coalition Government is beginning its fight to lower building costs and reduce red tape by exempting minor building work from paying the building levy, says Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk. “Currently, any building project worth $20,444 including GST or more is subject to the building levy which is ...
Proposed changes to tax legislation to prevent the over-taxation of low-earning trusts are welcome, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The changes have been recommended by Parliament’s Finance and Expenditure Committee following consideration of submissions on the Taxation (Annual Rates for 2023–24, Multinational Tax, and Remedial Matters) Bill. “One of the ...
Assalaamu alaikum. السَّلَام عليكم In light of the holy month of Ramadan, I want to extend my warmest wishes to our Muslim community in New Zealand. Ramadan is a time for spiritual reflection, renewed devotion, perseverance, generosity, and forgiveness. It’s a time to strengthen our bonds and appreciate the diversity ...
Former Transport Minister and CEO of the Auckland Business Chamber Hon Simon Bridges has been appointed as the new Board Chair of the New Zealand Transport Agency (NZTA) for a three-year term, Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced today. “Simon brings extensive experience and knowledge in transport policy and governance to the role. He will ...
Good morning all, it is a pleasure to be here as Minister of Science, Innovation and Technology. It is fantastic to see how connected and collaborative the life science and biotechnology industry is here in New Zealand. I would like to thank BioTechNZ and NZTech for the invitation to address ...
Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says he is looking forward to the day when three key water projects in Northland are up and running, unlocking the full potential of land in the region. Mr Jones attended a community event at the site of the Otawere reservoir near Kerikeri on Friday. ...
Associate Finance Minister David Seymour has today announced that the Government has agreed to restore deductibility for mortgage interest on residential investment properties. “Help is on the way for landlords and renters alike. The Government’s restoration of interest deductibility will ease pressure on rents and simplify the tax code,” says ...
Sport and Recreation Minister Chris Bishop will travel to Switzerland today to attend an Executive Committee meeting and Symposium of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA). Mr Bishop will then travel on to London where he will attend a series of meetings in his capacity as Infrastructure Minister. “New Zealanders believe ...
Pacific Media Watch Earthwise hosts Lois and Martin Griffiths. Earthwise presenters Lois and Martin Griffiths on Plains FM 96.9 community radio talk to Dr David Robie, a New Zealand author, independent journalist and media educator with a passion for the Asia-Pacific region. David talks about the struggle to raise awareness ...
Pacific Media Watch Ismail al-Ghoul, an Al Jazeera Arabic correspondent who was held for 12 hours at Gaza’s al-Shifa hospital, says Israeli forces rounded up Palestinian journalists at the facility and made them kneel on the ground for hours, while naked and blindfolded. “The occupation forces handcuffed and blindfolded us ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tony Wood, Program Director, Energy, Grattan Institute chinasong, Shutterstock Electricity customers in four Australian states can breathe a sigh of relief. After two years in a row of 20% price increases, power prices have finally stabilised. In many places they’re ...
Chumbawamba have reportedly issued the deputy PM a cease-and-desist notice after he used their song 'Tubthumping' before his state of the nation speech. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Deborah Lupton, SHARP Professor, Vitalities Lab, Centre for Social Research in Health and Social Policy Centre, and the ARC Centre of Excellence for Automated Decision-Making and Society, UNSW Sydney kitzcorner/Shutterstock The assertion from Queensland’s chief health officer John Gerrard that ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Martin, Visiting Fellow, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University Shutterstock Why are musicians so keen to get played on the radio? It can’t be because of the money. In Australia they are paid at rates so low they ...
"Farmers make a point not to tell our urban cousins how to live, yet Chlöe from central Auckland is hell-bent on having her say about farmers," says ACT Rural Communities spokesman Mark Cameron. “On her first day in the House as Green ...
Analysis by Dr Bryce Edwards – Democracy Project (https://democracyproject.nz)Political scientist, Dr Bryce Edwards. It’s been a tumultuous time in politics in recent months, as the new National-led Government has driven through its “First 100 Day programme”. During this period there’s been a handful of opinion polls, which overall just ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tim Curran, Associate Professor of Ecology, Lincoln University, New Zealand Getty Images/Gerald Corsi In the latest move to reform environmental laws in New Zealand, the coalition government has introduced a bill to fast-track consenting processes for projects deemed to ...
Uber has argued it does not have as much control over drivers as the unions suggest, and wants a judgment ruling that drivers are employees and not contractors set aside and sent back to the Employment Court. The 2022 ruling followed a three-week hearing in which four drivers sought to ...
What can and can’t be purchased by disabled people or their carers has been slashed in an effort by the Ministry of Disabled People Whaikaha to save money. The purchasing guidelines, a set of rules that sets out what can be purchased using the various streams of Government disability funding, ...
The Treasury has published today a new Analytical Note by Tod Wright and Hien Nguyen, Fiscal incidence in New Zealand: The effects of taxes and benefits on household incomes in tax year 2018/19 . Analyses of the distributional impact of taxation and government ...
The Treasury has published today a new Analytical Note by Cory Davis, Boston Hart and Benjamin Stubbing, Household cost-of-living impacts from the Emissions Trading Scheme and using transfers to mitigate regressive outcomes . This Analytical Note ...
A coalition of public transport and climate organisations, united as ‘Transport for All’, is actively opposing the government’s transport proposals. The draft Government Policy Statement (GPS) includes plans for higher fares for public transport, ...
Greater Wellington is inviting feedback on proposed changes to its Revenue and Financing Policy. The Revenue and Financing Policy covers the Council’s various sources of funding, and how the cost of services is shared across the region. This includes ...
Labour has conceded it could have done more to deal with disruptive state housing tenants while in government but says the current coalition is going too far. ...
The band has asked their record label to issue a cease and desist to stop the NZ First leader using their 1997 hit to support his ‘misguided political views’. “I get knocked down, but I get up again,” blared through the speakers on Sunday as Winston Peters took the stage ...
By Lydia Lewis, RNZ Pacific journalist Food rationing is underway in remote areas in Papua New Guinea’s Highlands following torrential rain and flash flooding. More than 20 people have been reported dead in Chimbu Province. In nearby Enga Province, the centre of last month’s massacre, a 15-year-old boy has been ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Andrew Hughes, Lecturer, Research School of Management, Australian National University After months of debate and intrigue, the AFL’s 19th and newest team, the Tasmania Devils, finally launched its jumper, logo and colours in Devonport this week. The Devils will wear green, ...
Brannavan Gnanalingam reviews the debut novel by Saraid de Silva.One of the most baffling things for children who move to a new country is what their parents’ (or grandparents’) lives were like prior to moving – for kids in particular, they’re too busy trying to fit in in their ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Stephen Gaunson, Associate Professor in Cinema Studies, RMIT University Narelle Portanier/Binge “If you don’t know who your mob are, you don’t know who you are,” Detective Andrea “Andie” Whitford (played by Leah Purcell) is told early into the new crime ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Elise Klein, Associate professor, Australian National University It’s commonly accepted that women do the vast majority of caregiving in Australian society. But less appreciated is that Indigenous women do larger amounts of unpaid care than any other group. Working with the Aboriginal ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Adrian Beaumont, Election Analyst (Psephologist) at The Conversation; and Honorary Associate, School of Mathematics and Statistics, The University of Melbourne Joe Biden and Donald Trump have both secured their parties’ nominations for the November 5 United States general election by winning a ...
Comment: There has been a striking contrast in trans-Tasman interest about Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi’s visit to New Zealand and Australia. While the Australian press has been full of articles about the visit – including his curious decision to meet with former prime minister and China booster Paul Keating ...
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My bet Chris Hopkins doesn’t get in to a Labour cabinet.
Forcing Ardern to defend you against the Australian government means he’s spent all his political capital in one shot.
She gets to look strong once again on ground which National has looked weak for some time now.
Excellent as he’s not the leftie you’re looking for.
Anyone else think Barnaby’s namesake, Steven Joyce is behind this?
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/08/jacinda-ardern-hits-back-at-australia-s-false-claims-and-threats.html
This National government and the several phases of Liberals in Australia have worked very hard on destroying the NZ-AUS relationship. I wouldn’t put it past the Nats to destroy it a little more in an attempt to stop Jacinda.
Gower just outright lied on that when he said that Ardern fully backed Hipkins when she said that his actions were unacceptable.
That’s not backing him.
Dirty Politics goes international – the Nats had to ramp it up somehow…
What (cordial, co-operative, respectful) relationship?
Listen to and look at this first class bitch from across the Tasman! Makes Paula Bennett seem like a pussy cat. Jacinda Ardern has called her out for making a false claim. She has called the Australian Ambassador into her office for an urgent meeting. A diplomatic incident in the making?
Jacinda has got to do more. She must stand up to Julie Bishop and demand an apology. Nothing less will suffice.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/video.cfm?c_id=1&gal_cid=1&gallery_id=180294
Edit: Just seen Ad above. It’s not the first time Hipkins has spoken out of turn.
Or Ardern could just shout-out to every kiwi voter in Aussie:
Let’s stick it to them.
Have just watched TV1 news. Another resignation coming up? Or at best Hipkins loses his portfolios and is banished to the back benches for some time out?
Just send him to the back benches. He hasn’t been corrupt.
This whole thing in Aussie about MPs’ citizenship looks to me like gotcha politics, and a distraction from important issues. A beat up. And our media shouldn’t be using it to do more of the same.
Just do nothing.
Fuck should anyone apologise to the Australian government for anything related to their disgusting racist attitudes to citizenship and nationality/ethnicity. What are they going to do? Exile Kiwi born criminals or something?
Shall we grovel to the Tea Party too?
Spineless Labour “pragmatists” know the answer.
Totally agree with doing nothing – how can it possibly be bad to advise Australia of NZ law that may be relevant to Australian electoral law?
+111
It could be bad if Australia were being ruled by racist trash and racist trash in the National Party seized upon it to inflame popular opinion and foster hatred and division, but I don’t really think they need any help to do that.
Paddy Gower has it covered.
Oz Labour kicked all this off by going after Bob Day in the senate and now its gone off a nuke, aka “the gift that keeps on giving.”
It may come back to haunt Oz Labour with up to 7 members now likely to have their citizenship brought in to questioning by the High Court.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-15/barnaby-joyce-australia-new-zealand-united-at-last/8808448
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-15/politics-live-august-15/8806750
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-15/bill-shorten-accused-colluding-nz-mps-barnaby-joyce-citizenship/8807610
Must be why the Libs lost 2 division orders in parliament this afternoon Aye, 69 to the left and 61 to the right, there’s a few Libs voting against Bishop and Turnbull, you don’t appear to know the facts, Bishops beat up is bullshit.
Yeah, it appears old Julie went off half cocked as did I and apologise for that (hipskins got some airtime on the ABC tonight), but I was very impressed with NZ Labour Party leader tonight she handled herself very well. I’m starting to wonder if old Mal will last to the end mth now if rightwing of the liberal party are starting to revolt.
They are always revolting – in both senses of the word. The problem for the Liberals is that their factions (like those of the National party here) are really only united by the desire to hold power. The problem is that they don’t want the other liberal factions to hold it instead of themselves.
I think Mal’s day are numbered either way and depending on how this Section 44 drama plays out though the courts over the next few mths, we could either have a new government or it could a new elections and I’m really sure who’s called it would be if we end up back at the polls?
Here’s a piece from Sydney Morning Herald
http://trc.taboola.com/msn-australia/log/3/click?pi=%2Fen-au%2Fnews%2Faustralia%2Frocked-by-day-of-citizenship-drama-turnbull-government-ponders-nuclear-option-of-referring-labor-mps-to-high-court%2Far-aaq9aij&ri=01935f5e12e479317ba9baf8344fc5de&sd=v2_f042290e3451d93a5ca0c3f2f9fcb33e_c0865fc2-87e1-495e-b098-0927368c54ec-tuct8bf048_1502844084_1502844084_CNawjgYQqbw-GKK188PeKyABKAMwEA&ui=c0865fc2-87e1-495e-b098-0927368c54ec-tuct8bf048&it=text&ii=8514024353658063621&pt=text&li=rbox-t2m&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msn.com%2Fen-au%2Fnews%2Faustralia%2Fbarnaby-joyces-future-hangs-in-the-balance-as-turnbull-government-teeters%2Far-AAq2REe%3Focid%3Dspartandhp&vi=1502844082850&r=82&ppb=CLsH&cpb=Eg4yNjgtNzUtUkVMRUFTRRjoESAAKhloay50YWJvb2xhc3luZGljYXRpb24uY29tMgh3YXRlcjY2Mg
I hope this works
exkiwiforces
You are bringing some good discussion here.
I’ll pass on my learnings about taming links when they turn out to be massive. (I think there are hints in TS FAQs also.)
After you see the link is a monster on the page do this.
At the start of it you put Chosen term
So if you chose as your term Mal’s days numbered that is all you would see on the page but it would be highlighted showing that the link is in those words.
Those instructions just vanished that I gave. So sorry I had good intentions but they have to be explained in some other way.
Bloody well hope so! especially when things were going great for Labour ATM and long come this DICKHEAD.
Hipkins has done absolutely nothing wrong in my opinion. Just good politicking.
I agree. From what Jacinda said, he was asked to check it out for the relevant time period & had no other information as to context. Sounds like it was only a matter of time before it was made public anyway. That statement by Julie Bishop was well OTT.
Agreed. Besides an Australian reporter was onto the story two days before Hipkins asked the questions.
Post coming up tomorrow.
+1
Looking forward too it and hopefully I’ll get a chance to during a break or during breakfast.
Over on Newshub Gower went all out at Hipkins.
Clearly Julie Bishop’s intended target was Bill Shorten but you get the feeling she was happy to take a swipe at NZ Labour along the way.
I reckon Ardern did a pretty good job pushing back.
I reckon Ardern did a pretty good job pushing back.
Yes, and Corin Dann gave her full credit for it.
Loved to have been a fly on the wall at the meeting with the Aussie Ambassador. Although knowing Jacinda her bollocking of Julie Bishop would have been couched in tasteful language.
Just as well I never sought a parliamentary career. My bollocking would have reverberated for years afterwards. 🙁
“Just call me Julie!”
Ardern is keeping it classy. That will serve her well. I was talking to some Australians today about the whole business and they remarked at how impressive she was (for one so young, as they put it).
Yep. I know there are going to be a few times in Ardern’s time where I want her to drop the nice act and go for the jugular but I reckon I’m going to be disappointed.
She’s almost too good for us.
She’ll be right mate. She’s got a bit more mongrel than the Aussie’s it seems. And a dash of diplomacy when needed. Its a breath of fresh air after all the insipid dishwater we’ve been served up for the last 9 years.
Hipkins is a tard. He’s the one person I can really not stand in Labour. He’s from my area, so I know him well.
I doubt you know him at all.
Here’s the real story:
http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/08/ardern-stands-up-for-kiwis.html
This is why you don’t want to piss off our Julie (or Bob Katter or Jackie Lambie) as she goes off like belt fed mortar and if this dickhead Hipkins has acted in a unethical (underarm way) way I hope Jacinda Ardern kick’s him where it bloody hurts.
As I said to my folks via email lastnight while its been piss funny over here with every pollie ducking for cover atm. (I don’t think the guys from yes minster couldn’t write a script for this and its a bloody shame John Clarke is no longer here as he would be having a field day) but, Today-
as Expats like me are copping a lot off flak ATM from this dickhead Hipkins and if he has acted in a unethical (underarm way) way, he better hope I don’t have to come home very soon or else he will get more than kick where it bloody hurts from me that’s for sure!
I usually have skin thicker than a snapping handbag (Salt water Crocodile) , it getting real nasty.
Can’t they sic the GCSB onto him or something?
Nasty subversive Hipkins, monkeywrenching noble Australian racist laws like that. It’s not like pointed humour ever led to people thinking about stuff, eh.
Nah, what am I saying! Hipkins is more likely to be the patsy in some Dirty Politics scam.
Boohoo, cobber. You live and die by the place you chose to live. What gives you the right to even comment on NZ issues when you don’t live here, don’t pay taxes here, and contribute absolutely nothing!
I still pay my taxes from my investments, i’m still on the roll, I still visit from time to time to catch up with friends and see my parents. I work alongside Kiwis and expats.
Must be a green voter are we?
BTW, i’m probably more red than you are! Below is my great great grandfather
http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/sherman_frank_henry_13E.html
So why are you defending Julie Bishop?
Word of advice: don’t go for the Greens on this forum the way you have gone for Labour. It won’t end well for you.
You’re a typical fleewee. Hope you enjoy being Australian.
Firstly i was stirring the pot in regards to Julie, as hell would have to freeze before I even think of supporting those muppets.
Secondly I’m probably more of NZF voter than a Labour voter now as Labour hasn’t won me back yet.
Thirdly I left New Zealand under a National government back 98 like a lot people I know as we saw no future under the neo liberal bullshit that was National then and now as Labour back then was little unknown when you look at its pass record.
Finally I almost came back home after a hell year that was 2006 with work, apart from 3wks hunting and visiting in NZ as I spent nearly 9 to 10mths doing back to back operations. With a plan to enter parliament, but I was talked out of it (from either end of the ditch) and with the benefit of hindsight I should’ve had a cracking it after a chance meeting with a couple of people some yrs afterwards (Its funny who you bump into in my line of work overseas) as the plan I had might’ve work and some smart ass Tory may have lost their seat?
Are you really saying you only want ‘contributing’, resident New Zealanders to have an opinion? Sounds a bit Trumpy.
The only person she has to be pissed off with is herself and the person who held dual citizenship. They should have done their bloody homework as at least one of them would have known that their father was a Kiwi and many countries, especially Commonwealth countries, have as law that if your father was of that country then you get to be a citizen even if you weren’t born their. I wouldn’t be surprised if Australia had the same bloody law.
Was it a proper parliamentary question? Probably not. just look up the relevant law in legislation.govt.nz.
Did Hipkins mention anybody by name? Nope.
It is something that both sides need to know. Politicians here to help NZ citizens and politicians there so that shit like this doesn’t happen.
It was the British law of the time, so Australia, NZ and Canada all had it.
Her response was strong. Bad time to waste energy on something irrelevant.
What a bunch of pussies the reporters are. She talked on and on repeating herself and walked off with a smirk and a wiggle. They should have been interrupting her after the second sentence.
Julie Bishop?….isnt she the foreign minister in the government of John Key’s bestie?….say it aint so…..bro.
Should really just call Julie Bishop a greasy scumbag for trying to interfere in the upcoming New Zealand election, and encourage all the Aussie based kiwis to get out and vote if they want to see someone properly fight for New Zealanders in Australia.
Dirty Politics Series 4 Episode 3
Episode 1 Take out Andrew Little
Episode 2 Take out Metiria and end the discussion of poverty as an election issue
Exactly!
Seems to be a distraction by Bishop and a hypocritical one at that, ironically the more rabid and extreme their accusations the more support will go to both Oz-Labor & NZ-Labour as across the ditch they have had enough of sanctimonious Turnbull & Co and over on this side of the ditch a lot of folk have had a gutsfull of how Oz-NZers rights are being eroded.
#Schadenfreude.
just on news hub No Wage Growth predicted for the next 4 Years , hows that for a bright future
Excellent ! just a bit more poverty and asset sales and we’ ll be sweet and on target !
I must say I found it quite interesting that TV1 news lead with the boil water notice in Dunedin rather than the trans-Tasman dramas.
Were you hoping for Dirty Politics Series 4 Episode 3?
I wasn’t hoping for anything.
Just a bit surprised that TV1 went for the proper news story (thousands of people on a boil water notice in our 5th largest city – more of the brighter future?) rather than the big drama of the day.
Well one’s a storm in a teacup about Kiwi Barney and Julee Tanty Queen, and the other is about an actual health threat.
Hard work being in charge a political party, it’s asshats to the left of me fuckwits to the right, here I am getting covered in clown shit.
Dicks!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHPu0emXYAESf7o.jpg
(nsfw)
ABC News is reporting that another Liberal MP, the Member for Gilmore, NSW may be a dual AUS/UK citizen. A by-election there could be far more problematic for Turnbull than Joyce’s seat, the margin was only 1500 at the last election.
Out of curiosity I decided to google
Can trump start a nuclear war
And came access this article
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/11/16126770/trump-north-korea-nuclear-launch-code-steps
Pretty fucking terrifying as the whole system relies on a having a rational president in charge.
There are no checks and balances every thing is set up for an instantaneous response so if Trump the unhinged decides for whatever reason he’s going to nuke that fucker there is nothing that can be done to stop him, missiles are going to fly.
The fate of the world rests in the hands of a 70-year man who’s a raging deluded narcissist and has what looks like the early onset of Alzheimer’s,
Prepare for the worst.
He just wants to be loved and is surrounded by deep state factions plotting his demise and/or destruction of his legacy.
We gonna be fine.
Fucks sake man, where have you been for the past nine months? Because I’ve been hoping that in that time that the security dudes with the guns in the war room have used that time to figure out whose side they’re on when it comes down to it, and I’m not talking about Republican vs Democrat.
Because I’ve been hoping that in that time that the security dudes with the guns in the war room have used that time to figure out whose side they’re on when it comes down to it, and I’m not talking about Republican vs Democrat.
Not sure if joking, but anyway it doesn’t work that like.
From the article
As mentioned earlier, the president is the sole decision-maker. But he must consult two people to make that decision.
He must talk with the Pentagon’s deputy director of operations in charge of the National Military Command Center, or “war room,” the heart of the Pentagon from where all US military operations are directed. The current deputy director is Lt. Gen. John Dolan. The president must also speak with the commander of US Strategic Command, currently Gen. John Hyten.
The length of the conversation depends on the president. It also doesn’t have to be held in the White House’s Situation Room; it can happen anywhere over a secured phone line.
Fearmonger ignores step one in own link, indulges derivative Mad Max fantasy anyway.
Is transparent and two-dimensional. Sad.
Wait, what?
When did he get a second dimension?
BM, Odd how you considered it Timely to shift topic/thread!!…
Perhaps you might want to consider keeping your curiosity to yourself!! Or somewhere else!
https://thestandard.org.nz/brownlee-as-foreign-minister-as-successful-as-youd-expect/
He’s a shadow of himself. Usually on point in attempting to crush the voice of social conscience in NZ, BM is now used goods reduced to twittering about Trump.
The indomitable Penny Wong has waded in.
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/penny-wongs-chief-of-staff-sparked-nz-labours-questioning-of-barnaby-joyce-20170815-gxwqli.html
So it was Fairfax journalists asking Peter Dunne and NOT Chris Hipkins who kicked it off.
The apparatus of the state used to intimidate/stifle dissenters.
The Department of Justice has requested information on visitors to a website used to organize protests against President Trump, the Los Angeles-based Dreamhost said in a blog post published on Monday.
Dreamhost, a web hosting provider, said that it has been working with the Department of Justice for several months on the request, which believes goes too far under the Constitution.
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346544-dreamhost-claims-doj-requesting-info-on-visitors-to-anti-trump-website
Can someone please catch me up on the Aussie thing?
You can’t be an MP if you have dual citizenship? A couple of Green MPs had to stand down recently? This week Chris Hipkins asks in the NZ parliament about NZers with Australian citizenship, and this prompts journos to be asking about other MPs? I don’t get it, wouldn’t everyone be looking at this already after the Green MPs had to resign? Or am I missing something there?
To answer your first question weka. You must be an Australian citizen to stand for both seats of parliament. Section 44 goes all the way to Federation of Commonwealth States of Australia 1901 and its becoming a bit of horses ass of a law ATM.
A lot of people where I work (and probably most of Australia) thought this was piss funny until that Hipkins put his two bobs worth in and now its got real nasty.
It’s more the other stuff I’m not following. Was Hipkins shitstirring? And why weren’t the Australian media all over all the politicians before that, including Barnaby Joyce?
Because barnaby is on the murdoch err I mean turdbull side.
Unlike bovver boy joyce this side whos rat cunning, barnabys a rather dull implement.
Peter Dunne says he was asked by Fairfax journalists about it. See Scott GT posting above – Penny Wong link. Its a political beat up to blame Hipkins.
Here it is:
http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/08/ardern-stands-up-for-kiwis.html
ta, good read.
You can’t be a federal representative.
Two Greens senators have resigned. One government minister has had to step down from his portfolio. There are serious questions being raised over a One Nation senator and another government MP, and a reported 20 more hurriedly checking their paperwork. Section 44 of the Australian constitution is smashing through the federal parliament like a wrecking ball, as parliamentarians sweat over their citizenship and whether they — knowingly or not — hold some foreign citizenship status.
But why can’t you be an MP if you’re a dual citizen? The section of the constitution in question, 44(i), states:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/07/28/why-cant-you-be-an-mp-if-youre-a-dual-citizen_a_23053409/
edit:
http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/Publications_Archive/archive/Section44
By some outdated law in Australia you can’t be a Member of the Federal Parliament and a dual citizen of some other country.
For a nation of immigrants, go figure. Maybe they should only let their first peoples sit in the parliament in Canberra.
Up until recently nobody really paid much attention to this arcane bit of electoral law it seems. Anyway it turns out that none less than the Deputy PM has succumbed on account of being a dreadful NZer.
This leaves Mr Turnbull in a parlous state since he managed to lose a few seats at the last election and doesn’t have any MPs to spare. The prospect of another election which the Coalition would almost certainly lose was enough to send Julie-baby into a fit today.
Her main target was the Labor leader Bill Shorten but it seems she was happy to do our government here a favour and throw a hand grenade into our election by implicating NZ Labour in the devious plot to reveal Barnaby Joyce’s dreadful lineage.
Ta. I commented above, about not understanding why after the original Green senators the media hadn’t looked at all politicians’ citizenship. And wtf was Hipkins doing?
They seem to have been quite lax in Australia with regard to this law. It’s rather bitten them all on the bum.
Hipkins was shit-stirring, terrible of him really, but that’s what Opposition MPs do, isn’t it?
Scott,
Oz Labour started this current shit fight when there were questions about Bob Day in the Senate and since then a been a gift that keeps on giving.
Yes we are lax/ causal about Section 44 and I don’t think Oz Labour thought it would get so out hand as it has and I said Carolyn it may end up biting Labour in the ass after all with 7 of it members now maybe in question as well.
He probably got asked what the citizenship status of a kid born to a kiwi parents offshore was. It took me 2 minutes from here
https://www.govt.nz/browse/nz-passports-and-citizenship/getting-nz-citizenship/check-if-you-are-a-citizen/check-if-you-are-a-citizen-2/#1-0
I assumed
1. not born in nZ
2. Not Samoan
3. One parent a NZ Citizen when born
4. That parent was a citizen by birth
Result:
You are a New Zealand citizen by descent
This isn’t exactly rocket science. Any moron can look this up – and evidently Julie Bishop is more of a moron than I’d realised.
Here is the full stand up plus questions with Jacinda Ardern late this afternoon. She handled it like the absolute professional she is.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/95816738/has-australias-foreign-minister-accidentally-declared-war-on-new-zealand
Scroll down to second video.
I think it’s fair to say no NZ politician ever lost any votes by standing up to their counterparts in Australia.
Yep. Watch Jesse Mulligan on “The Project” tonight.
https://www.facebook.com/TheProjectNZ/
Note the clapping and whooping from the audience at the end.
I hope Exaussieforces watches that.
Not on Facebook sorry and won’t anytime soon
Actual link
He probably got asked what the citizenship status of a kid born to a kiwi parents offshore was. It took me 2 minutes from here
https://www.govt.nz/browse/nz-passports-and-citizenship/getting-nz-citizenship/check-if-you-are-a-citizen/check-if-you-are-a-citizen-2/#1-0
I assumed
1. not born in nZ
2. Not Samoan
3. One parent a NZ Citizen when born
4. That parent was a citizen by birth
Result:
You are a New Zealand citizen by descent
This isn’t exactly rocket science. Any moron can look this up – and evidently Julie Bishop is more of a moron than I’d realised.
The real problem isn’t that his father was born in NZ. It is the strange law that the aussies have about the way that they treat anyone in parliament who is a child of an immigrant. I’d point out that the large number of cousins in Aussie who would all be over the age of 50 now and who have lived there their entire life would also be unable to enter parliament. How fucked up is that?
Matt Caravan had to step aside as the minister for northern Australia as his mother put him down as Italian citizen at the age of 28 and she forgot to tell until after the 2 greens from senate step down. In fact the poor bloke wasn’t born there and hasn’t been for a holiday.
That why its so piss funny about the whole thing until today
Not to take away from your point Lynne. or the thread…
But just to add that the large number of cousins in Aussie who would all be over the age of 50 now and who have lived there their entire life would also be ineligible for citizenship. and/or those benefits… How fucked up is that?
“How fucked up is that”.
The only fucked up thing about this is your statement.
It is completely wrong.
If they have lived there all there life and are over 50, as you claim, then provided they haven’t got a serious criminal; record they can apply for citizenship tomorrow, and they’ll get it.
Why don’t you look at what the actual law is, and in particular what it means if they were in Australia on 26 February 2001. Then you can discuss the matter. What you have said here is total rubbish.
They tend to be aussie citizens because they were all there prior to 2001. So they collected aussie passports and atrocious accents.
But I doubt that any of them have renounced the kiwi citizenship either.
For that matter a couple of my grandparents generation from various wings of the family were entitled to aussie citizenship as their parents hopped over this side of the tasman early last century.
I think I have one 2nd cousin who moved there a few years ago to do a doctorate and seems to be pretty settled in Melbourne. I must ask her what she is planning to do.
I’m not certain whether it was actually correct but I remember reading an article a year or so ago which claimed that anyone from New Zealand who had even passed through an Australian airport prior to the 2001 date could avoid all the problems.
The only visa then available to New Zealand citizens was the permanent resident one. That was what you got when you entered Australia, even it was only for a couple of hours.
The article argued that since you had had a permanent resident visa you could simply ask that it be reactivated, and that they would have to do it. Then you could start down the path to citizenship.
So, if anyone passed through Australia on the way to Europe in the 1980’s, and now want to raise the IQ on both sides of the Tasman by moving across the ditch that is the way to do it. The 2001 law doesn’t apply to you.
I don’t remember where I read this, or whether it was true but a lawyer might to able to confirm or deny it.
ok, so the whole trying to have a go a NZLP is just some stupid flailing around shit when they weren’t doing their job properly, it’s nothing to do with NZ at all.
That’s about it. It looks to me that it’s the Australian Liberal party trying to evade their own personal responsibility.
lol.
And Hipkin’s provided them with a perfect scapegoat. We’ll blame it on the Kiwi Labour Party.
No one likes the Aussie Liberals (apart from Exaussieforces) and their anti-marriage equality and anti-Kiwi buzz.
Labour looks strong on this while National have rolled on their side to have their tummy rubbed again as they have done for the last three terms.
I think the fourth estate have been caught up in the Same Sex Marriage thing and the silly politics by Labour and the followers of the Mad Monk over SSM. But there has been some rumours about who was next to be caught up with Section 44 and now know who.
Haven’t been following Oz pol tbh, but I would have thought that after the two Green senators stepped down that there would have been a general call to parliamentarians to sort out their status. Was everyone hoping it would just go away?
Yes, you would’ve thought after the two greens senators that these smug arrogant clowns in the upper and lower houses in Oz would’ve done a family background check? Hell even some idiot try to trip old Henchie under section 44, he like an old school member of the fourth estate knew he had to renounce his NZ citizenship before standing for the upper house in the last federal election.
Even some MSM got their kinkers in a twist over fat boy missiles and starting jumping and down with “we must get a ABM system to protect Australia from North Korea”
I wouldn’t call that an outdated law.
IMO, nobody should be able to hold dual citizenship as it raises too much conflict of interest – see Thiel. He’s in the US working in their Administration and against the best interests of NZ by default. That makes him a traitor BTW.
+1. What’s the net he’s taken out of NZ to this point? $9million or so?
Wasn’t it ~$30 million?
Not sure. Bill English does love corporate welfare so we can expect more NZ govt revenue to go to Thiel in the future.
Answered my 1st political poll in my 66 years tonight. I didn’t hear which organization was running it. Things are getting interesting.
Julie Bishop reminded me of a dominatrix dressed all in black and she looked and sounded like she was out to give someone a good beating. Hope she doesn’t go home and kick the cat.
Heh
nothing to do with much but a good watch about the events in Charlottesville USofA. HBO made this free to watch, and i can only urge you to watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg&feature=youtu.be
Love this image.
http://www.theroot.com/interview-how-corey-long-fought-white-supremacy-with-f-1797831277/amp
Brilliant – made me chortle that one.
Re: Hipkins.
Someone’s pretending that right wing political parties don’t collaborate and share resources the world over. (cf:
LordMr. Ashcroft, Putin, Trump, Pinochet, Key etc etc.)Either that or it’s only a problem when the left does it. And/or (my pick) Hipkins is a patsy.
It’s only a problem when the Left do it especially if it shines a bad light on the Right-wing.
My partner tells me that Barnaby Joyce’s father went to Australia in 1947 and at that time we, Australians and New Zealanders were British subjects. It was only in 1948 we two countries attained our own individual nationalities – New Zealanders and Australian subjects. So why are we even in this row, surely this should be a stoush between the UK and Australia. Just my thoughts for the evening. Why hasn’t this been brought up.
That’s correct. Canada was first from 1/1/1947, and we all agreed to follow at the Commonwealth Heads Of Government meeting in February 1947.
The main issue is that citizenship by descent was automatically passed on to all children of NZ citizen fathers, which is how Joyce was caught out.
The shit that went down today is the white-heat of an election campaign. Anybody still think Jacinda ain’t up to it?
Yep it appears as if she has the x-factor. Good – ì think she’ll do her best – she is authentic – she is significant. Awesome for her and us.
When it is “dirty” to be a New Zealander in Australia. Sad!
Since shonky, recently honoured by OZ as a thank you, happily stood by whilst Abbott and Turnbull removed kiwis rights and didn’t reciprocate by doing same here.
Had they have done that the Oz media
It’s not just here national have been screwing kiwis over by their action or inaction. Key allowed kiwis to, in some cases, be treated like Oz treat the boat people.
Quite sickening really.
+1
We owe the Australians nothing.
Sorry timed out, the Oz media would’ve screamed about it and Turnbull/Abbott would’ve been pressured into backing down.
Remember Oz still have independent media, for now.
I am sick of our country being used as Aussies bum boy.
Handled right this could be an opportunity for Jacinda to shine.
It’s ok though for the Australian right to publicly back our government by encouraging kiwis living in Aussie to vote for the National party in our 2014 general election !!!
Fleewees living in Australia shouldn’t be entitled to vote in NZ elections, imo.
If you leave the country to ‘further your career’ or some other bullshit then you should also relinquish your rights to vote on matters important to New Zealand.
Have a crack when you decide to come home and contribute…
Jesse Mulligan: Australia is treating New Zealand like dirt | Newshub
http://www.newshub.co.nz/…/jesse-mulligan-australia-is-treating-new-zealand-like-dirt.html
Jesse Mulligan nails it.
OPINION: … ” Despite longstanding agreements which are supposed to give us special rights, New Zealanders seeking a better life in Australia have not been made to feel welcome.
They’re not allowed to access unemployment benefits, university subsidies or disaster relief. And even though last year Aussie agreed to give us a special path to citizenship, this year they betrayed that agreement.
So tell me again about this so-called special relationship?
Besides that, the Aussie government is now rounding up Kiwis with criminal records and sending them back to New Zealand, even those ones who have lived in Australia since they were babies.
Along the way, some get stuck in detention centres, essentially being put back in jail for crimes they’ve already paid for.
Almost 1000 of them have now been sent back here and surprise, surprise – 20 percent of them have reoffended. Remember Australia is not working with the New Zealand government on this. They make a decision and then we pay for it.
Now when Aussies arrive in New Zealand they get the full Anzac treatment, right? Permanent residency, within a few years they get access to student loans, and to benefits. Becoming a citizen costs less than 500 bucks.
Kiwis arriving in Australia get none of that. When our politicians raise it in meetings we’re ignored and the 600,000 Kiwis living in Australia can’t do anything about it, because despite paying full taxes, they’re not allowed to vote.
Forget the trans-Tasman friendship in 2017 – Australia is basically a bully.
So Julie Bishop, when you say you’ll find it hard to work with New Zealand, what exactly do you mean? How much worse could it possibly get? ”…
Newshub.