Daily Review 18/11/2016

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1. Muttonbird 1

   18 November 2016 at 5:53 pm

   I’m perplexed by some posters on this forum claiming the government are doing a good job in the aftermath of this latest earthquake. The effects have been felt to a greater or lesser extent from North Canterbury to Wellington.

   Sure the government roped in a couple of excess naval vessels as a show of support to one particular tourist destination but the real worry is the total confusion, lack of communication, and absence of a disaster plan in Wellington.

   Is Wellington CBD safe for workers, or isn’t it? It can be partly safe. Dr. Smith assures us with reference to the Pike River re-entry, this government regards public safety very important when necessary so their handling of this situation betrays them in my opinion.

   There seems to be a confused secrecy about the situation in Wellington but the government according to some here has sun shining out of its arse on this particular disaster response.

   The reality is Wellington is one decent aftershock away from a significant loss of life if this current makeshift decision making is allowed to continue.

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/86610278/hopes-some-wellington-buildings-will-reopen-as-engineers-continue-to-check-after-quake

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11750458

   http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/93pct-chance-of-magnitude-6-aftershock—geonet-2016111814
   • Rosemary McDonald 1.1

     18 November 2016 at 6:19 pm

     “The reality is Wellington is one decent aftershock away from a significant loss of life if this current makeshift decision making is allowed to continue.”

     Yep.

     Beggars belief that Wellytonians think they have immunity from this….http://nzhistory.govt.nz/page/christchurch-earthquake-kills-185

     ” Tuesday 22 February 2011 at 12.51 p.m. Christchurch was badly damaged by a magnitude 6.3 earthquake, which killed 185* people and injured several thousand.

     The earthquake’s epicentre was near Lyttelton, just 10 km south-east of Christchurch’s central business district. The earthquake occurred nearly six months after the 4 September 2010 earthquake, but is considered to be an aftershock of the earlier quake.

     The earthquake occurred at lunchtime, when many people were on the city streets. More than 130 fatalities were caused by the collapse of two multi-storey office buildings – the Canterbury Television and Pyne Gould Corporation buildings. Falling bricks and masonry on Manchester St and in Cashel Mall killed 11 people, and eight died in two city buses crushed by crumbling walls. Rock cliffs behind houses collapsed in the Sumner and Redcliffs area, and boulders tumbled down the Port Hills, with five people killed by falling rocks.

     Although not as powerful as the magnitude 7.1 earthquake on 4 September 2010, this earthquake occurred on a fault line that was shallow and close to the city, so the shaking was particularly destructive. In the February 2011 quake, the fault movement and structure of the bedrock produced exceptionally strong ground motion – up to 1.8 times the acceleration due to gravity in the eastern suburbs. In the city centre, ground accelerations were three to four times greater than those produced by the September 2010 earthquake.

     The earthquake brought down many buildings that had been damaged in September 2010, especially older brick and mortar buildings. Many heritage buildings were heavily damaged, including the Provincial Council Chambers, Lyttelton’s Timeball Station, and both the Anglican Christchurch Cathedral and the Catholic Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament. Among the modern buildings irrevocably damaged was Christchurch’s tallest building, the Hotel Grand Chancellor. More than half of the buildings in the central business district have had to be demolished.”
   • Draco T Bastard 1.2

     18 November 2016 at 6:19 pm

     I suspect the only reason why things are going so well is because we have a whole heap of foreign warships here to celebrate the navy’s 75th – and they’re all pitching in to help.
   • The Chairman 1.3

     18 November 2016 at 8:16 pm

     The Kathryn Ryan – Justin Lester interview was good.

     Here’s a direct link.

     http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201824386/was-capital's-cbd-declared-safe-too-quickly-after-7-point-8
   • mauī 1.4

     18 November 2016 at 8:42 pm

     Unless there’s riots going on in the earthquake zone the public at large are going to be generally happy with what the government is doing. People are scared and want to see help is being provided, and it is no matter what the criticism.

     Mayor Lester is carrying the can for Wellington quake response. He seems to be making the big decisions and any missteps by the Government are hiding in the background.
2. Gristle 2

   18 November 2016 at 6:34 pm

   Given the small number of people living in the area, you probably could run this particular disaster recovery out of the various councils. Any central government should be able to handle this earthquake recovery with its hands tied behind its back.

   The real leadership will be about re-jigging the transport infrastructure so trucks that are going from wellington don’t get of the ferry until Lyttleton. This would then make the road a tourist route that doesn’t have to be rebuilt to carry 50 tone trucks.

   The real leadership will be about preparing for the next disaster that coincide with a densely populated area.

   The real political leadership will be about working out why Wellington buildings failed and how to address the other buildings all around NZ.
3. Draco T Bastard 3

   18 November 2016 at 6:46 pm

   Universal Basic Income: New Avenues in Social Welfare Policy

   Whole heap of university lectures on UBI.
   • james 3.1

     18 November 2016 at 8:33 pm

     Will never happen.
     • b waghorn 3.1.1

       19 November 2016 at 5:53 am

       I don’t know about that James . Me and my rightie self made man type mate were talking about how tech is making many redundant , and i chucked the ubi into the mix as being the only way to solve it , and he agreed, which spoiled my fun as i love getting him spluttering , but it shows that A people are aware of it and B they are warming to the idea.
     • Draco T Bastard 3.1.2

       19 November 2016 at 12:35 pm

       I’m pretty sure it will. Hopefully it comes in with a sovereign monetary system and then we can get rid of the rich.
     • KJT 3.1.3

       20 November 2016 at 5:34 pm

       I’ve talked to more than a few Right wing businesspeople with a social conscience, they do exist.
       A UBI is generally one of the things we agree on.
       The differences are on how to pay for it.
       Certainly, capitalism cannot exist without consumers with an income.
       • Draco T Bastard 3.1.3.1

         20 November 2016 at 6:38 pm

         The differences are on how to pay for it.

         Which is looking at it the wrong way around.

         It’s government spending, including the UBI, that would fund the economy.
4. weka 4

   18 November 2016 at 7:26 pm

   Standing Rock update from the amazing Lyla June Johnston. 147 felony charges from last month have been dropped. The charge was something like conspiring to riot by fire, because oh look, over there a haybale has somehow caught on fire. No-one know who started the fire.

   The big push now is to get Obama to sign the exectutive order that refuses permission for the pipeline to go under the river. Big march on Washington next month.

   Plus a reminder that we all have issues going on in our backyards that need support too.

   https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=lyla%20june%20johnston%20posts
   • Draco T Bastard 4.1

     18 November 2016 at 8:11 pm

     <blockquoteNo-one know who started the fire.
     Haybales are known to spontaneously combust.
5. pat 5

   18 November 2016 at 11:18 pm

   https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/nov/17/trump-begins-filling-environmental-posts-with-clowns

   the last link sums it all up rather well.

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